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The result was Procedural close. This article doesn't seem to ever have existed. The deletion log for "James Battiste" is empty. It's not clear what this nomination (which was malformed and never added to an AfD logpage) was supposed to be about, but it's not about

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James Battiste

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This person is listed as a political candidate and has not been elected to a major legislature. Being a candidate alone is not notable enough to satisfy

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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nina Mercedez

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BLP deletion request by the subject possibly satisfying

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The result was keep.

(non-admin closure) Rollidan (talk) 01:00, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Kim Robinson-Walcott

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Useless stub article that has been through PROD but never AFD. A fuller biography of the individual can be found here: [3] I see no evidence from this bio that she meets

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination effectively withdrawn, with no delete proposals.

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Her Secret

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Insufficiently sourced. Couldn't find any sources. Lurking shadow (talk) 23:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I'll let someone else deal with this text being the "© 2012 Loving The Classics. All Rights Reserved" text with a few words removed. Uncle G (talk) 10:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Notable cast, and sourced. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 18:06, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Now Keep Enough
    WP:RS were found. Thanks to those who found them.Lurking shadow (talk) 11:00, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ellen Fox

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No evidence of notability provided. Hosted a non-notable show on a failed TV network. The only references provided are self-published. Bueller 007 (talk) 22:34, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:06, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lola Le Lann

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She's only appeared in one movie which qualifies per

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  • Delete short of well written coverage showing how her film role advances the arguments of those who wish the defend the actions of Jeffery Epstein and the others committing sexual abuse of minors in his circle, I see nothing to justify having an article on her.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:31, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, John Pack Lambert. I'm sorry but you are misrepresenting the role and the whole movie as well. In any case, this is not the place to express opinions on ongoing or even historical events. You could've simply referred to the "well written coverage of her role in one film." Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 05:50, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:55, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

EtosTV

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It seems that this tv channel may never have gone live. Most coverage is PR from 2007 about a planned 2008 launch; this indicates that in 2009 it was still not live yet. After this date I can find no coverage. Conclusion: interesting idea that generated some chatter in 2007 but nothing that looks sufficient to meet

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The result was keep. If an individual clears

WP:NPOL isn't relevant; with respect to GNG, SusunW's sources have not been convincingly refuted. There are language problems, but these are not egregious enough to require immediate deletion, and most of the promotional material could simply be dumped. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:59, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Terry Neese

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Political candidate for office who does not meet

WP:NPOL. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:06, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • SusunW, I erred in not checking newspapers.com. I didn't know about newspaperarchive.com. I've seen enough to move to withdraw the nomination, but I can't as there is another delete vote. If Bearcat strikes their vote, I'll withdraw. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:34, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Greetings,
    Daily Oklahoman, I have already addresses them in my own sugegstion below. -The Gnome (talk) 19:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Comment: She isn't a politician, she is a business woman and public policy advisor. She happened to run in one race in a long career and lost. It is only significant because she was nominated. SusunW (talk) 22:21, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, she has been a political candidate, which makes NPOL relevant. (GNG supersedes it, yes.) – Muboshgu (talk) 23:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Muboshgu, we'll have to disagree on that point. Lots and lots of people run as candidates never to run again. Lots of people do notable things which have nothing to do with politics. If their notability stems from something else entirely, holding them to a standard for one facet of their career is not logical. SusunW (talk) 23:14, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, no, I think we agree, we're just talking past each other a little bit. If she meets GNG, it doesn't matter that she doesn't meet NPOL. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:27, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Comment I want to delete this article - it's written promotionally/like a resume - but while she fails
    WP:TNT as it is promotional, though, so I entirely understand the delete !votes. SportingFlyer T·C 07:28, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:44, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lindsey Boylan

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Political candidate for office who does not meet

WP:NPOL. I would be okay with a redirect to 2020 United States House of Representatives elections in New York in place of deletion. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:59, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:07, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Westgarth

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Subject narrowly fails

WP:NHOCKEY. As the article states he played 183 regular season games in the AHL and including playoff games he played a total of 194 games, leaving him six games short of passing #2. No preeminent honours listed to pass #3 or #4 either. Tay87 (talk) 20:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nom - fails NHOCKEY --Spacepine (talk) 22:09, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Does not meet the sport-specific criteria and coverage is not significant enough to warrant GNG. Also, bound to be no more than a sentence or two transcribed from a statistical source. There has to be enough to produce a readable narrative. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete a non-notable hockey player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:51, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, Does not meet
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Game of Dice

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No citation to support, all based on original research. Wefk423 (talk) 16:02, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:33, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

UICC configuration

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No evidence of notability. Guy Macon (talk) 13:34, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per nomination. It's an
    related to the product, since they sign as "GlobalPlatform." -The Gnome (talk) 06:27, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:33, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Malazdrewicz

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Subject does not appear to meet

WP:NHOCKEY. He never played in the NHL, so obviously fails #1. He played a total of 174 games in the AHL and IHL and 200 is needed to pass #2, so fails. The CHL which ran from 1963 to 1984 is listed among the leagues for #3, but the subject has no preeminent honours in that league. According to Hockey Draft Central, he was a Second Team All-Star in the IHL and First Team All-Star is required to pass #3 in the stated leagues. Then comes the obvious points of not playing in college, not being a first round draft pick and not playing in a world championship which fails the rest. Tay87 (talk) 19:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Convex Interactive Pvt Ltd.

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Article previously deleted as G11, recreated shortly afterwards. No sourcing about the subject approaching

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  • Delete per the very reason I added the G11 on the original article. The user went ahead and recreated it without addressing any of my concerns. --PuzzledvegetableIs it teatime already? 22:14, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - spam about a non-notable digital marketing agency (surprise!). MER-C 17:04, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Irina Sharipova

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Placing in the Top 25 of a pageant isn’t notable, it’s nowhere near winning. As for her modeling career there is no way to properly vet these jobs. Being in the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show is nice and all... yet when that’s reported on, 50 girls are grouped together in lists of 50 girls that never offer substantive career information. With my rudimentary knowledge of Russian I couldn’t find anything and the Russian article didn’t offer reliable sources either. Is this the best that’s out there? Why is Blogspot referenced? Trillfendi (talk) 19:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The nominator is gently reminded to refresh their memory about

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Environmental health policy

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Reads like an essay, non-notable original research JMHamo (talk) 15:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete as original research. It was built almost entirely by two student editors taking the same class in March 2017. I am sure they had nothing but good faith, but students often think they are writing a paper. I don't think the article can be salvaged as a stub, since I don't think the topic is distinct enough from similar topics to have any notability.
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Crossroads1, for misreading the nomination and thinking youd made it. I am terribly sorry for that, and thank you for being so polite about my mistake (and for striking your !vote, too). Nick Moyes (talk) 05:12, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Apology warmly accepted. And, I admit this particular AfD !vote of mine was not researched like it should have been.
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Nsk92 (talk) 20:11, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Capak

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The subject seems to be a fairly prolific academic - lots of publications in good journals, and some quotes in general media. The trouble is I can't find any writing about him in any independent sources at all. It's not clear where the biographical information in this article is coming from - almost none of it is sourced, and some of it (e.g. his being science lead at

WP:GNG, and whatever information we write about him would have to come from affiliated sources because no independent sources are available. GirthSummit (blether) 17:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Withdrawn, but please see comments below. GirthSummit (blether) 23:33, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Strong keep GS h-index of 95 [16] allows him to meet
    WP:PROF#C1 with flying colors. IntoThinAir (talk) 18:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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OK IntoThinAir, I'm minded to withdraw the nomination based on that argument, but the lack of any independent sources gives me pause. Is it acceptable to write the article based on his profiles at institutions he's connected with (which he presumably wrote himself)? I can find nothing in the way of independent sourcing giving biographical information. GirthSummit (blether) 19:37, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I just re-read
WP:BLPSELFPUB, which indicates that we can indeed use self-published material if it's neutrally written etc. I may end up self-trouting here, if others are happy that he meets NPROF, and that are article is exclusively written using material he likely wrote himself (albeit probably factual and probably above board), then I'm happy to withdraw the nom. I do think the article needs a bit of work though in terms of sourcing. GirthSummit (blether) 19:44, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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I have added external references per Girth Summit's recommendation Commofc (talk) 16:18, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per IntoThinAir and
    WP:PROF#C1. The ridiculously high h-index includes some works with many authors but keeping only the first-author papers from his Scholar profile still gives citation counts 795, 250, 231, 149, 131, ..., enough to convince me of a pass. —David Eppstein (talk) 05:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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OK, thanks, appreciate the guidance. I'm happy for this to be closed as keep; I may try to find time to trim the article tomorrow, if no-one beats me to it. GirthSummit (blether) 00:55, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 14:33, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Andoni Ugarte

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Contested PROD. Subject fails both

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The result was merge to Merge. Per WP:ATD. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:11, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OPSkins

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Fringe notability. Don't think OPSkins quite meets GNG. HoverVan (talk) 15:10, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:48, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

International Bingo Day

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Not notable. Single source that mentions "International Bingo Day" is a suspect website that, based on Wayback, was only just created today and does not appear to be a reliable source. The remainder of the article (history of the game) is already covered in the existing

Bingo (U.S.) article. Kuru proposed deletion 1 August; article creator removed the prod when adding this source. Schazjmd (talk) 14:39, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete, as above, only source given that mentions the concept is a crappy wordpress campsite barely six days old. Didn't find anything else. Kuru (talk) 02:45, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Unverifiable. In anycase, I can't see why it would be notable. Anybody can make up a day about anything but we wouldn't have an article on it per
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The result was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:28, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Crispin Pailing



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Fails

WP:GNG. Non notable clergyman and author Dom from Paris (talk) 09:29, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • User:J.K.McBrine. It would be very useful if you can bring examples of national news coverage of his work and career to this discussion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:15, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • In addition there is news coverage about his activities. Major parish probably makes him notable, sourcing looks promising. Page creator, a new editor, could be encouraged - I'll get back to this in a day or two.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:25, 30 July 2019 (UTC) E.M.Gregory (talk)[reply]

*Keep He does appear in national news and on national television many times. I think that this and all of his civic and interfaith work puts him on a par with an archdeacon (a post which normally receives a Wikipedia article).

XfD. Note to closing Admin - Ivor Browning seems to be a Master Sock of the two other socks who also Ivoted on this page. See sockpuppet investigation here and the checkuser comment below. Striking this Ivote ---Steve Quinn (talk) 08:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Despite the shenanigans of Ivor Browning which have rather soured my view of this article, I would be happy to be convinced that Pailing's support for public art does make him notable. From what I've read Pailing mostly seems to be mentioned incidentally in connection with public art in Liverpool, but he is not the subject any coverage at the national level. BabelStone (talk) 17:39, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Checkuser note: J.K.McBrine. and William McFarlane are  Confirmed socks of Ivor Browning.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Subject has been at AfD for two weeks and is still completely unsourced. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:13, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dark City (magazine)

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  • Delete per nom. No references in the article, and none found. While the magazine is in Russian, the title is in English. Their Facebook page lists a few stores where it is sold, which suggests there is not wide circulation.
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The result was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:25, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Monster Night

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Fails NFILM. BEFORE search comes up with nothing other than IMDb entries and one user review on Rotten Tomatoes. No sourcing at all on article, quite clearly exists but no third party reviews or content can be found. Nightfury 13:21, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to 7icons. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:14, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Angel Tee

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Although I appreciate learning that this singer "dated a very handsome, handsome man" (while randomly changing gender throughout the text), I don't see sufficient evidence of notability outside her former pop group (7icons). Almost all of the discography and minor film roles seem to be bound up with her group membership. This should be redirected to 7icons, as was already attempted four times. It would be nice to come to a conclusion that sticks this time. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:20, 7 August 2019 (UTC) Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:20, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect - restore redirect to 7icons. No notability outside the group. No in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources about this particular singer herself. Onel5969 TT me 15:18, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete a non-notable model.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:57, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's because it is a machine translation of id:Angel Tee from Indonesian, and Roseirena (talk · contribs) is not a native English speaker and does not have the facility with English to notice when the translation is wrong. Roseirena's argument against redirection, as best that I can translate it, is that the subject has not been involved with that group for half a decade, now. Uncle G (talk) 16:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect as per recommended by Elmide. Also, notability doesn't get carried over between the different languages wikipedia. Also, recommending an indefinite edit/move lock on the page once the redirection is done. robertsky (talk) 04:45, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Any move discussion can be on the talk page

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Li Xinyi - Rex

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Fails

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As per Zanhe showing the single has charted, meets
WP:SINGER, so keep. Bondegezou (talk) 22:13, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep.

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List of Chairmen of the Supreme Soviet of the Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic

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A list of holders of a position we don't even have an article for. Fails the guidelines for stand-alone lists. Collaboratio (talk) 13:02, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:59, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Philippe Cadène

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  • Weak Delete. Moderate GS record, although citations would generally be expected to be lower in his field. Note: highest-cited publication in GS is attributed to someone else. This may be a book of individually-authored chapters, but did not check. SPA-created does not help the case here. Agricola44 (talk) 16:55, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus seems to lean more towards delete now. It is important to recognise that NSEASONS does not guarantee notability of any season, and the fact the

other stuff exists is also not a reasonable argument. There is the possibility that this season might be notable by the end of it, but it has only just started ad so it is impossible to tell right now, and no indication that any presumption of notability should be employed. I'm happy t restore later in the season if GNG can be shown. Fenix down (talk) 15:33, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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2019–20 FC Universitatea Cluj season

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WP:NOTSTATS Dom from Paris (talk) 16:46, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep Just because a club is not playing in the top-division of a country, doesn't make the article useless. In fact, they are playing in the 2nd tier of Romanian football. Instead of deleting it, we should improve it similarly to other season articles about football clubs. We have some season articles about teams in non-league English football. Why should we delete this article about a random club in Romania, if we are not going to delete those? KingSkyLord (talk) 18:21, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Being useful is not a criteria on wikipedia. A telephone directory is useful, a user manual for a telephone is useful, a pair of scissors is useful but they do not belong in an encyclopedia. All the information on that page was copied from one source which is where someone looking for that useful information would go to first. Could you tell us which policy/guideline/essay you are using to back up your keep !vote? Dom from Paris (talk) 19:44, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And BTW I totally agree with you and would urge you to nominate the articles you mention. I nominated this one because it was on the new pages feed. Dom from Paris (talk) 19:45, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This is not a random Romanian football club, they are a notable one and among the most popular in the country. I think they deserve a season article even if they are not playing in the top league at the moment. And the article doesn't have more sources because the seasons has not even started yet, all the gameboxes will have a report, and so will the other sections in the article (attendances, appearances, transfers etc.) once there is data to populate them with. mihai.zamfir30 07:08, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please remember this is not just a vote based on preference but on policy and guidelines. Can you please state what your !vote is based on. --Dom from Paris (talk) 08:31, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Instead of wanting to delete an article on a second tier football team, we should be looking to create articles on more football teams around the world to keep the public informed about these smaller teams which could later become big teams up there with the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester City etc. Universitatea Cluj actually only just missed out last season on being promoted to the top tier. This season they may succeed. Anything is possible with football so the argument that this article is useless wouldn't be accepted if Universitatea Cluj rises to become a title-winning champion. It has been a champion in the past and can be again. Furthermore, I think it would be highly disrespectful to disconsider a club with such rich history just because it's from Romania and not a well-known country like England or the United States. Why is it that there are season pages on non-league English clubs? They won't get much attention in the press and so would fail with a greater likelihood.
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I absolutely agree with that there is no reason to take into account the country from which this club comes from. You seem to be suggesting that my nomination is biased, I hope this isn't the case because it most certainly isn't and you should always
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No I stating the truth, unless you can get some references so that it will be able to pass
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WP:GNG. Also if the team is "notable" then why has it not won a Romanian title because I when I think of biggest clubs, I also think of titles that they have won. But with only one cup title in their trophy cabinet, then that isn't a "big club". HawkAussie (talk) 01:10, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Universitatea Cluj have been in the top flight in the past and have won league titles even if they were not champions of Romania. Therefore they have more than just a cup title in their trophy cabinet. Maybe we should delete all clubs currently not playing in the top flight or that haven't won titles? There are many 'notable' clubs with season pages that haven't won any titles and have never played in the top flight. Delete those too if you want to delete this article. ajudge149 13:13, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:54, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bro Code

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Delete per

WP:NOTURBANDICTIONARY. Seems like a glorified dicdef that doesn't have evidence of standalone notability. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 14:24, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:19, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anitha Karthikeyan

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Biography of a living person that is poorly sourced and questionable notability Sociable Song (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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    • I haven't edited the article at all, it's the same as when you nominated it. The award is linked to the page about the awards Atlantic306 (talk) 21:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've just edited it to add a reference for the Mirchi Music Award where she is referred to as Anita, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 22:01, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete the subject doesnt have
    WP:NSINGER: the subject hasnt won any major awards. Having a catchy title, or a big region's name a part of the title doesnt make an award notable. Same goes for shows, and competitions. —usernamekiran(talk) 16:10, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:21, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dickinson Valley

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Questionable notability and poorly sourced (one primary source). Sociable Song (talk) 20:05, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Actually, that was a secondary source. I've cited the
    the remit to incorporate a gazeteer and giving a slight pass to an officially named place in Antartica, albeit with a view towards merger as I mentioned. No use of the administrator deletion tool is necessary, though. Uncle G (talk) 14:41, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Consensus seems to explicitly favor deletion over redirection. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:23, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wallace Watson Award

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Student travel award at an Oxford college established in 2001, fails

GNG. TSventon (talk) 08:33, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • 'Redirect: to University of Oxford. Non-notable. SL93 (talk) 17:04, 2 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete as unencyclopedic. But in the unlikely event that we end up merging or redirecting it should go to St Catherine's College, Oxford rather than the University. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 15:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. A Delete, Keep and Weak Keep are not enough to form a consensus and after three weeks it's time to lower the curtain on this discussion. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jubilee Garden (Hong Kong)

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non notable per WP:NBUILD viz 17:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Keep Have some
    WP:GNG passing news coverage regarding the dispute between landlord and the residents who owned the units. The dispute was quite covered in the newspaper (and current affair TV program, if i remember right.) Matthew hk (talk) 06:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep, like was decided in similar, simultaneous-running AFDs
    wp:GEOFEAT (these are not natural features but they are so big they change the weather, effectively are geo features). --Doncram (talk) 19:04, 11 August 2019 (UTC) 21:28, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to Night Shades. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1Nite (One Night)

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Does not meet notability standard for a single or a song; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Singles MurielMary (talk) 11:38, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect: There does not appear to be enough coverage to support an independent article, but it is a viable search term so a redirect back to the album would be helpful for users trying to find information about the song.
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The result was delete. The weight of PAG argument is pretty solidly in favor deletion. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:32, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Say No More (Les Dudek album)

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Poorly sourced and not notable. Sociable Song (talk) 19:56, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Leaning keep: this album did make the Billboard 200, although it peaked at a relatively lowly number 107 on June 25, 1977 [24] (this is the following week's Billboard where it is placed at number 166, but you can see the previous week's peak of 107 next to it). It also received a brief review in Billboard on its release in April 1977 [25], and there is another review in the October 2007 issue of Record Collector when the album was reissued along with Dudek's self-titled debut [26]. I know a low chart position and two short reviews may not be enough to convince all editors, but Dudek was by no means a nobody – he got his major label deal with Columbia Records after becoming one of the most highly-respected blues-rock session guitarists of the early 1970s, playing with the Allman Brothers Band (he plays on "Jessica", one of the group's best known tracks), and on Silk Degrees by Boz Scaggs and Fly Like an Eagle by the Steve Miller Band, two of the biggest-selling albums of the year prior to this record coming out, as well as being in the touring band for both artists. Given his pedigree, and the fact his debut album certainly did receive some reviews in the music press, I'm inclined to think there might well be more coverage for this album in the music press of the time. The articles for all of Dudek's albums are currently in an abysmal state, but I have a suspicion that all would pass WP:NALBUM if the sources can be found. Richard3120 (talk) 18:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete since subject fails
    his own notability does not confer article rights to everything he creates. -The Gnome (talk) 06:30, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Prakhar Gupta

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Non-notable journalist. Sources consist of links to his articles and 2-3 author profiles, none of the sources establishes notability. No in-depth coverage directly about him or his work. A Google search also revealed no promising hits.

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The result was delete. North America1000 08:57, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

TheGamer

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  • Doesn't pass
    WP:WEB. Google News search shows only press-releases which don't establish notability. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:37, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nom. --Wow (talk) 07:54, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep they appear to publishing more than press releases so I am not sure it qualifies. Lets try to get some more sources onto this article. Starspotter (talk) 15:44, 27 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak Delete We need more sources on this page and it is not really notable enough. Ivor Browning (talk) 06:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak Keep I would prefer to keep the article, I read news on the website every so often, it's pretty well known in the industry. I am surprised this article isn't better than this, but at the moment GNG is really weak. Govvy (talk) 19:42, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete "Lets try to get some more sources onto this article" is not a valid rationale or grounded in policy or guidelines on Wikipedia. Like Govvy has said (and is pretty much a Delete argument, rather than a Keep one), the subject fails
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The original statement was "Google News search shows only press-releases", which was I think not the case. There does seem to be some secondary sources, which I added in a brief search. It might better to merge or move this Valnet, Inc. or something similar, as they have some other properties that are Wikipedia. Edit, there was also a yahoo reference but maybe merge is better, I agree this is not a well known site. Starspotter (talk) 15:23, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a speedy renomination. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:33, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sheen Falls Lodge

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The article is completely blank and a quick Google search shows only a website and reviews from travel sites.

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  • Comment We probably need clarity from @
    chatter) 01:21, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Explanation - @
    Mrschimpf: sorry all, I meant to actually revert my redirect delete and then go to RfD. However this will also function. Mrschimpf is correct in that the non-redirect was requested because the restaurant no longer exists in this form and was owned by different ownership than the current lodge is. As a defunct redirect it didn't seem to serve much. It could well fail notability as well. Apologies for the confusion for mucking up half-way through! Nosebagbear (talk
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  • Delete per my above points. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:45, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The hotel housed a Michelin-starred restaurant The Falls but that disappeared out of this article completely. And it was this hotel-restaurant (not a separate entity) that gave the hotel its fame. And as far as I know, notability is not temporary. The Banner talk 13:11, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep Article needs revision but topic meets notability. PhobosIkaros 22:33, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Michael Crichton#Other speeches. There is a clear consensus against keeping this page. Beyond that it gets a bit murkier. My general rule of thumb in the absence of clear direction is to go with the least drastic course of action that received a reasonable level of support. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gell-Mann amnesia effect

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Article is almost entirely quotes from copyrighted sources. Seems to be a non-notable

Neologism. Google hits are almost entirely uses of the term, rather than coverage, and those that cover it are not reliable sources. Despite what may be inferred from the title, it is not an academic term and is---from what I can tell---entirely absent from Google Scholar. Wug·a·po·des​ 07:42, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Reconfirming that I still agree with the argument made by that editor, regardless of footware. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. a

WP:RS, and the significance of the events surrounding the subject of the article. Kindly see the reasoning put forward by "keep" commenters, and understand it. Further reading: this AfD. —usernamekiran(talk) 20:03, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Jammu and Kashmir (union territory)

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Jammu and Kashmir is not yet a union territory of India. India has not yet officially or formally annexed Jammu and Kashmir yet. IMHO, this page should not even exist yet in the main namespace. Saqib (talk) 07:35, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: Wikipedia has covered proposed territories when they have significant coverage in secondary sources (see
    bill to bring the union territory into effect has been passed in both houses of the Parliament and only awaits the President's assent. India never 'annexed' the territory, but a major part of it is under the country's control for the past 71 years, so any decision the country takes is notable, and will have effect. DeluxeVegan (talk) 07:49, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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& What if the legality of this move could be questioned in the Supreme Court of India and Supreme Court strike it down? --Saqib (talk) 08:12, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Even then, the union territory will have existed for a period of time. That would result in even more coverage of the topic. FYI, my argument was based on the coverage this proposed territory received in secondary sources, and not the question of its legality. DeluxeVegan (talk) 08:17, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: Wait the centralized discussion at the India project noticeboard --Sharouser (talk) 08:11, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Given the majority with which the Bill was passed in both Houses of the Parliament, the reality of the reorganisation seems more evident than being bleak and a distant myth. -- Tamravidhir (talk!) 09:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: It's a certainty that the UT will be created, whether anyone likes it or not. TryKid (talk) 13:15, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: It's a well-researched article, and even if the territory were to be voted down (which doesn't seem to be the case), I think you could change "is" to "was" in the first sentence and still have a deserving article. Ubiquity (talkcontribs) 18:01, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Yunshui  07:42, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jeonghan

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Previously deleted at AfD. This new version of the article is not the same so

WP:G4 doesn't apply, but the same issues are there. No significant solo activity, hence no notability ouside of Seventeen (South Korean band). PC78 (talk) 07:29, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Queen City Yacht Club (Seattle)

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One of more than a dozen local social and moorage organizations in the area for people who use boats. Largely copied from https://www.queencity.org/about-qcyc as a promotional article. No sources to establish notability or independent references to verify content. Reywas92Talk 07:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. Vanamonde (Talk) 20:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Canada WET

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No significant coverage for a music festival that apparently only happened once in 2005 for two days. SL93 (talk) 07:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. Deleted by

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Marina Island Pangkor

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the baseless article which is not based on the usual structure of wikipedia's article such as having the lead and ... Saff V. (talk) 06:56, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Speedy delete. I've tagged this as G11 -- advertising/promotion -- because it so obviously falls within this category and there's no need for this to be listed for seven days. --
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. Vanamonde (Talk) 19:42, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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European International University

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Appears to be spam authored by an SPA (contributions page here). Fails GNG, ORG, and CORPDEPTH.

All available sources appear to be primary (closely connected with the University) - except one, which is here, and which is not a reliable source and has only one passing mention of this organization (see number 85 ranking).

Also, this was previously speedy deleted as a draft in

WP:AFC by an Anonymous IP user - see this talk page diff. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 04:23, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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*Comment This is probably notable enough but needs a lot more sources. I shall get back to this in a few days to see if there are more references.Ivor Browning (talk) 05:57, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You won't, because your account has been
sock puppetry per evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/J.K.McBrine.. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:39, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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striked out sock. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/J.K.McBrine. or Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ivor Browning. —---Steve Quinn (talk) 08:22, 13 August 2019 (UTC)|[reply]
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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 05:56, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Arya Dega

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Non-notable person failing

WP:GNG with no in-depth sources. The two news articles where the person is mentioned more than a passing mention are not about the person (about car event/stuff). A couple sources are passing mentions. Other sources are not independent or don't cover the subject. Declined AfC moved to mainspace by author. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 19:02, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 05:55, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

League of Revolutionaries for a New America

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Yet another obscure, tiny Marxist party with no elected officials or even any candidates from what I can tell. Article does not appear to meet

WP:ORGCRIT (substantial, non-trivial coverage from multiple independent reliable secondary sources). Article is entirely unsourced and reads like an ad. Tags have remained up for almost eight years now. Toa Nidhiki05 03:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete This has no references and looks like possible original research. Ivor Browning (talk) 06:05, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Yunshui  07:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Holger Chen

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An "internet personality" who tries hard to be famous for being famous. Name primarily seems to pop up as an interviewer of actually notably people. Owning a fitness center and restaurant provides some name-drops but nothing more. The lot garnished with gossip about his dog and a single cameo. Fails

WP:GNG. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 01:10, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep - passes GNG. [27][28][29][30][31] and that's just English language sources dug up in 2 seconds. His notability has nothing to do with what he is famous for. --Spacepine (talk) 02:51, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Withdrawn. Yunshui  07:40, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Anton

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Non-notable artist. I've cleared some extensive copyvios which go back to the first version of this, 11 years ago. What's left is pretty close to

WP:AUTO. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:30, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Withdrawn. I disagree with the consensus, but it's inevitable that this will be kept, so we can save some time. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep there is no notability issue here. For starters the nominated article included nine sources, although not inline. I had no trouble finding seven more to place inline, one of which is a collection. He claims four other collections. There is lots of coverage and he is in one confirmed permanent collection, and likely more. So, take your pick, meets WP:GNG or WP:ARTIST. Also, if you want to see the really good minimalist candy art, check out the famous candy piles of
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PS I do agree that it is probably an autobio. Eleven years of a single SPA editing it! That account should be blocked for being
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No one is exercising power to delete without discussion here. Roy Smith nominated, and he withdrew it when concensus became evident.
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The result was delete. Ad Orientem (talk) 02:49, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Initial license offering

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"ILO"s are not an actual financial instrument, they are an fictional instrument which are actually a pyramid scheme. This page should be deleted. There is not a single legitimate reference on the page!! Iloisfraud (talk) 19:49, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment, does this - "National Academy of Athletics (NAofA) launches an initial License offering (ILO)" show its a thing (note: i am not saying that it is notable)? Coolabahapple (talk) 12:27, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - there are literally no relevant results for this phrase (with quotes) on Google Scholar (and one irrelevant result). I cannot find any significant coverage in a more general search either. It certainly feels very pyramid scheme-y, and sets off many of the same warning flags, but judgement as a "scheme" or such is outside the purview of AfD - all that matters is the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. @
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thanks. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:30, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Does the fact that the entire article is unreferenced and that the page's description of an "ILO" is clearly fiction not matter at wikipedia? There is no evidence that "ILO"s are actually an extant financial instrument. Every website that makes reference to an "ILO" is low grade and skin deep, often filled with boilerplate and lorem ipsum when you get 2 or 3 links deep. "ILO"s are a fiction used to defraud people.
  • Delete whether or not it exists, the current article is promoting an unlicensed financial instrument and does not rely on reliable sources.
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