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The result was delete. Requested by subject. No.objection. A7 and g11 appear to apply.

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This article was started before the requirements for company notability were enforced. External independent discussions about Deep Secure are cited in the current article, but there's really only one such report. The article has only ever been maintained by Deep Secure staff and this is unlikely to change, so the requirements for independence are unlikely to be met.

The article was tidied up recently, but that's the best that can be done and the view of the company is that the most appropriate action is to delete the article

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:38, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:GNG: This is an amazingly promotional article. The references include defunct gossip blogs, his own websites and (presumably) social media accounts, and even a letter to the editor of the student paper at his university. I looked for additional sources and didn't find anything useful.
I wouldn't expect that his nightlife personality award nominations and win count towards ANYBIO, since the awards are not well-known or significant (and I know the HX one is allegedly rigged/given to whoever buys more advertising in their magazine). I couldn't find him on IMDb, and I don't think that the roles described in this article make him a notable actor. Cheers, gnu57 23:31, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to National Indoor Football League. ♠PMC(talk) 02:31, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

San Antonio Steers

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No indication of meeting

WP:GNG. I would suggest redirecting to National Indoor Football League, the league that this team played in. Searching online, I wasn't able to find any additional coverage. signed, Rosguill talk 23:02, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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This team played in the NIFL and has sources from www.oursportscentral.com.......why would it be deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjmja5 (talkcontribs) 03:22, 23 April 2020 (UTC) Keep[reply]


Are you saying this team was not in the NIFL?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjmja5 (talkcontribs) 03:25, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another reference from the Houston Chronicle added https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/woodlands-sports/article/Garza-pleased-to-be-part-of-Conroe-Storm-s-success-1836727.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjmja5 (talkcontribs) 04:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article has been improved and new references included. Youtube videos included as well I again vote to keep.

FOX NEWS story on the San Antonio Steers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4cLieNtT6o

CBS NEWS story on the San Antonio Steers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4cLieNtT6o

Should suffice for additional coverage, along with other references to Keep the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjmja5 (talkcontribs) 17:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not swayed by these additional sources. The Chron article barely even mentions the team other than to say that they have an upcoming game, and refers to them as "The San Antonio Steer". The Youtube videos are the same video twice, and are clearly marked as promotional. Also, while you are welcome to make additional comments, please refrain from voting more than once. signed, Rosguill talk 17:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the CBS story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wADWzoCglWo&t=72s

I don't understand why it matters how many games the team played in this floundering league. The team played in the league before folding. 80% of the teams folded in 2007, the last year of the NIFL. The team did play in the league, why should the page be redirected as if it didn't exist?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjmja5 (talkcontribs) 19:34, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We don't create Wikipedia articles just because something exists, we create them if enough independent, reliable coverage exists of the subject to be able to write a full-fledged article without relying on original research. This standard is codified at
WP:GNG. If a team has barely played any games, the likelihood that independent sources have written significant coverage of them is really, really low. As for the CBS spot, that video is literally called "NIFL pro football San Antonio Steers CBS promo"––it's a promotional spot and not independent coverage that we can use. signed, Rosguill talk 19:40, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucson_Mirage — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjmja5 (talkcontribs) 03:35, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFF, but thanks for pointing out the article, it should be a redirect too. signed, Rosguill talk 04:12, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Bearcat is harshly admonished for colluding in secret plots without inviting the rest of us. ♠PMC(talk) 02:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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conflict of interest, as the article was created by an editor whose username matched the name of the subject's own production shingle. Bearcat (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Update: despite having not otherwise edited Wikipedia since 2008, the subject/creator of the article sent me a private e-mail within an hour of my initiating this discussion, both trying to contradict my assessment of this article and alleging that I and Wikipedia are colluding with the Canadian film industry in a plot to slander him. Yeah, no, not what's happening here. Bearcat (talk) 23:52, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:40, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This earthquake is lacking notability Wykx (talk) 22:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The second and third paragraphs have nothing to do with the incident and appear to be filler. The first paragraph merely states that a low-magnitude earthquake occurred, resulting in no damage or injury. The major result of the earthquake appears to be some startled residents. Such earthquakes are far too numerous and irrelevant for inclusion in Wikipedia. Mindmatrix 00:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Not really notable in any way; low magnitude, and didn't result in any damage or sustained news coverage. User:Zoozaz1 03:24, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:41, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anthony Lago

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No notability whatsoever. In a

WP:BEFORE search, I found he used to have a MySpace page with 31 whole followers and a one-sentence mention in an article here. That's it. Kbabej (talk) 22:00, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Simply asserting that GNG is met is worthless without actually pointing to sources. Merely being a film director or producer does not automatically put one over the GNG line sans sources. ♠PMC(talk) 02:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:CREATIVE. The only notability claim stated here at all is that he and the films he's worked on exist, which is not an automatic inclusion freebie in the absence of any reliable source coverage in media to establish the significance of his work -- but of the eight citations here five are to IMDb, two are to other IMDb-like directories, and the only one that comes from an actual media outlet is a Q&A interview with somebody else in which Rajeev Barnwal is the interviewer -- which means even that source is not about him for the purposes of helping to establish his notability. People do not get over our inclusion rules just because you can show them as the bylined creator of media coverage about other things -- they require sources in which they're the subject of media coverage created by other people. And as for his filmography, he was a "set cashier", not a performer or filmmaker, in the first film listed, and an unnamed bit part actor in the second, so those two films have nothing whatsoever to do with establishing his notability -- and while the other two films listed are potentially more significant, simply having screenwriting and directing credits still isn't an automatic inclusion freebie in the absence of much better sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 21:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject does not have any notability. Most of the sources are from a non-notable, defunct website he used to be editor-in-chief of, and the others aren't much better. He was nominated for a local award once, again in relation to the defunct website, and then wrote a book that didn't get press coverage. In a WP:BEFORE search, there's a blog with an interview, so not considered a RS, and then a NY Sun article where he once held a party on a subway car. Not enough to pass GNG. Kbabej (talk) 21:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete for lack of citation of notability. The only sources are self-referential and/or generic links (such as the Amazon.com link for the book, since there don't appear to be any actual reviews or coverage of the book). -Markeer 01:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Not seeing anything in the keep votes to indicate GNG or nfooty pass. Fenix down (talk) 22:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails

WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:55, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • The article has now been amended to include reliable sources and citations. David Carty is a professional footballer on a full time professional contract. He is playing in the Irish Premiership, the top tier of professional football in the country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jogabonito1905 (talkcontribs)
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Crap. Don't know how I messed up there Devonian Wombat (talk) 22:38, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Does he meet ]
There are many examples of professional football players on Wikipedia who have only played in a league under the section: Top level leagues which are not fully professional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.29.125.28 (talk) 02:59, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You may not vote more than once. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
remembering, of course, that afd is not a vote. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:45, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Considering he’s only just broken into pro football for the first time at the age of 26, the article is well sourced; and he is a now a contracted professional player with the IFA (Irish Football Association). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.8.200.114 (talk) 20:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep As a player of the NIFL Premiership, he clearly demonstrates professional status. Even the Wikipedia page for the league recognises it as the following: “the Irish League, is a professional association football league which operates as the highest division of the Northern Ireland Football League – the national league in Northern Ireland.” Munich1905 (talk) 21:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - It’s professional football. Despite some newly promoted clubs needing more time to gain the funds required to become full-time, it is still a professional competition and the players participating should be treated as such. There are European competition places up for grabs for every club in the division. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.29.125.28 (talk) 21:03, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. User:Jogabonito1905 has worked on literally nothing but the page on David Carty, which forces me to suspect there may be an undisclosed COI here. User:Munich1905 has also worked on nothing but topics related to David Carty, and actually used to be called Cartiay before they changed their Username. I suspect that they might be David Carty, or someone close to him, as the odds of two new editors randomly deciding to put all of their editing work into creating a Draft and then an article for an obscure Irish footballer is rather low. 86.8.200.114 made two edits a few years ago, and just now returned to vote on this AfD. That is also suspicious, I think there might be socking at play here. And while I was typing this up, a new IP editor was founded just to comment on this AfD, making sockpuppeting even more likely. Devonian Wombat (talk) 21:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - It doesn't seem justifiable that a league which offers a number of spots in Europe (the biggest association football club competitions in the world), can have its players not considered pro? The players of the Irish Premiership are contracted professionals and should be acknowledged as such. There is zero difference between them and their fellow professional counterparts in other European first tiers, who are fighting for Champions League and Europa League places each season. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.29.125.28 (talk) 22:32, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NDIRECTOR. The one reference is just incidental coverage, cannot find SIGCOV, is really noted for one play that is not well known Rogermx (talk) 20:45, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I cannot find enough to support

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Delete - It's one of those cases where a SNG might be more helpful than GNG, in that it should denote where someone who is a referee might have additional print media. However, in this BLPs case, I doubt they would meet any SNG. Being a referee in CHIKARA is non-notable, as is having a year in AEW. Additional press coverage is required. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 10:32, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Article about a short film, not making or

WP:NFILM. As always, every film is not automatically entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because it exists -- the notability test for films requires some evidence of the film's significance, such as noteworthy film awards or demonstrable attention from film critics. But the only notability claim even being attempted here is that the film exists, and the only reference is a Q&A interview in which the filmmaker is talking about his own overall body of work in the first person, which briefly mentions this film without being about this film to any non-trivial degree. Simply put, a film requires better sourcing than this to clear the bar. Bearcat (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 02:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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promotional article that needs to be nuked from orbit, sourced entirely to gossipy, spammy unreliable sources. Praxidicae (talk) 20:34, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Mahveotm sources can be trash. Gossip, for example, is trash. It's a perfectly valid description. Praxidicae (talk) 19:03, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Good day... Kindly check that article you nominated for deletion,I think you should recheck and instead make corrections instead of just out rightly nominating for deletion. The writer did a lot of work you know! — Preceding unsigned comment added by B.Korlah (talkcontribs) 13:10, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment B.Korlah was the editor who created the article. PamD 09:59, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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P.S I reside in Nigeria & have done so for 20+ years & also a part of Wiki Project Nigeria so if you need further clarification do leave a message on my TP. Celestina007 (talk) 19:53, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Maggie & Bianca: Fashion Friends. MBisanz talk 23:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Giorgia Boni

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non notable actress MistyGraceWhite (talk) 20:22, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Mitre 10 Dream Home. MBisanz talk 23:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mitre 10 Dream Home (series 11)

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Season itself is not notable as the ten seasons before it aren't. Low level sourcing, definitely not substantial enough for its own article and series is already summarised on the parent article. This was a PROD and after the seven days was it up it redirected to Mitre 10 Dream Home only to be swifted reverted back. Ajf773 (talk) 20:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - I see no reason why this season needs to be its own page. This season does not seem to have particularly greater coverage than previous seasons. Delete and merge any useful content into the main show's page. Ikjbagl (talk) 20:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 02:36, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Non notable lawyer. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 20:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Non-notable and a COI product to boot. ♠PMC(talk) 02:43, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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non notable musician, could be speedy deleted in my opinion XFD to get the community's opinion. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 19:50, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:Sarveshvara99, no, I have checked, no sources on that either. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 07:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ MistyGraceWhite The social media , instagram and twitter was changed from Sha Zovve to SHESHA, a new facebook page was created for SHESHA. Will also state spotify link for Sha Zovve's work. Regarding the rebranding part from Sha Zovve to SHESHA.. That will be actually announced soon. If you notice the article, the rebranding was done only this year(2020) and theres is an album will be released later this year titled BINTANG EP. Even the official website for SHESHA is in building process and the knowledge panel in google search for SHESHA is not up yet because the official website and the album is not released yet. But the knowledge panel for Sha Zovve is in google search. Will state all the related links below. Please do advise on this. Thank you. User:Sarveshvara99

https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0TLOsKsgqNkw3YPTiLM5IVKjKLytLBQBqbwhX&q=sha+zovve&oq=sha+zovve&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j46j69i61l2.3719j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://open.spotify.com/artist/4lXFW8KajROcgbyce4m0Ix?si=icR_Lo9EQA6JLnm39RRSbg

https://www.instagram.com/officialshesha

https://www.facebook.com/officialSHESHA

https://twitter.com/OfficialSHESHA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarveshvara99 (talkcontribs) 08:59, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Sarveshvara99 if you are correct, that he has no knowledge panel, no website, no mentions on news etc, then he is not notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MistyGraceWhite (talkcontribs) 09:10, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - Note that a search under his given name reveals at least one other person, with the surname appearing as both Seshasahi and Seshasai, and there is also a figure from mythology named Shesha without the caps. All that can be found under a focused search on the musician are self-promotions in social media and various
    promotion by himself or a manager. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:20, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Follow-up - All that can be found under his previous stage name "Sha Zovve" is more of the same. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:22, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That violates Wikipedia's rules on
conflicts of interest. That is another reason to delete the article, or at least to investigate its origins even further. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 12:18, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:46, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Not enough sources exist to write an article of substance. Questionable notability. Vmavanti (talk) 18:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - From a bit of searching, I can see that this artist achieved some notoriety, yet I'm not finding the kind of reliable source coverage that we need to build a proper page out of. I agree. Deletion seems to be the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Lounge music has received some attention in recent years, so I was surprised how little I could find on the subject. Aside from the brief mention which I added as a reference, there is some further biographical information about him in the Essex Organ Museum Directory, but I am not seeing ]
And for coming to that conclusion, some people will consider you evil or stupid or both.
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:46, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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One album as a leader, a few as a sideman. Not enough sources exist to write an article of substance. Questionable notability. Vmavanti (talk) 18:47, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable company. Not finding anything besides mentions-in-passing for this company. None of the existing citations are valid links; no searches of the relevant publications' archives brings up any hits. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:46, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - not really finding much more than press releases. Plus the article was created, and over the years maintained by, users with obvious COIs. It's purely an advertising piece for the company and it's a miracle it's been here 10 years. Canterbury Tail talk 16:58, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- given the blatant COI editors in the edit history I think even if it is notable to delete per ]
  • Comment: I rewrote the article and reframed it to be about Joanne Jordan instead of Central Talent Booking, the company she founded and is the chief executive officer of. The sources primarily discuss Joanne Jordan and discuss Central Talent Booking in the context of Jordan's work on it. I support renaming to
    Joanne Jordan (talent agent) since Joanne Jordan already exists and is about an American actress and model who lived between 1920 and 2009.

    Writing in The Independent, journalist Emma Brockes called Jordan "one of New York's most respected talent bookers".

    Variety's Tatiana Siegel said Jordan "is considered one of the industry's premier bookers".

    In a 2008 article, TV Guide referred to Jordan as the "force behind" the "I'm F-ing Ben Affleck" video.

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Comment If you want the article to be about Joanne Jordan, then create an article about Joanne Jordan. Don't co-opt an article about a different subject to be about something else. That's a just a ]
Comment I have reverted Cunards attempt to co-opt the article to be about Joanne Jordan. Tknifton (talk) 13:51, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Aziza Mustafa Zadeh. MBisanz talk 23:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jazziza

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Not enough sources exist to write an article of substance. Questionable notability. Vmavanti (talk) 18:42, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Not enough sources exist to write an article of substance. Difficult to find sources which are not promotional. Questionable notability. Vmavanti (talk) 18:40, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Editors, please refrain from language that compares other editors and contributors to killers, as in "serial hit and run". Death isn't being proposed here, merely the deletion of inert data on a computer screen. Let's save the melodramatic figurative language for poems and plays and try to be more literal, realistic, and practical on Wikipedia. Thanks. Your friend, Don Quixote. P.S. Some of us use colored syntax.
Vmavanti (talk) 17:02, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody is claiming any editor is literally murdering anyone (see straw man). It is referring to the editor who has a history of dropping into AfD discussions and commenting without any regard to proper analysis or research of the topic and has a fundamental misunderstanding or willing disregard of our notability guidelines. Believe me, I'm not alone in this assessment. Oakshade (talk) 01:00, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a straw man. Figurative language is suggestive and makes a point and impression. I advise people to avoid using it on Wikipedia because Wikipedia is a place where we are supposed to discuss facts. We ought to be literal more often than not. I know nothing about this person, just as I know nothing about everyone else on the internet, but to say "serial hit and run" about anyone is lazy, false usage that ought to avoided. We can do better, and we usually do. If one disagrees with a point, prove it, which others have apparently done. Let's rise above the name-calling. There's enough of that in the world already.
Vmavanti (talk) 03:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I won't repeat the stated facts about this editor, some of which has even been admitted by that editor. But I'll make it explicitly clear so you don't have any false impressions: To my knowledge, Johnpacklambert has never murdered anyone with their vehicle and driven from the scene without assisting the victim nor reporting the collision to authorities. Oakshade (talk) 21:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You missed the point. All of them.
Vmavanti (talk) 23:12, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Plenty of sources available. See, to start, the first page of Google Books and the sources listed above. I'm curious about what type of ]
I'm curious about why accusations and insinuations of laziness immediately pop up whenever anyone stands against the Church of Indiscriminate Inclusion, Infinite Open-Endedness, and Passing Work Off to Anonymous Strangers on the Internet. There's an old saying that when you point the finger at someone else you have four fingers pointing back at yourself. I'm curious about whether people know how to use sources, despite apparently having one or more college degrees. I learned when I was thirteen in a lousy American public school. What's everyone else's excuse? According to the documentation, a passing mention DOES NOT qualify as a source. Common sense will tell you that. Why? Because there's not enough content to provide material for an article. If you have to hunt high and low for sources, there's a good chance the subject is NOT notable. Why? Because notable subjects have "significant coverage", according to documentation which few people read or understand or both.Vmavanti (talk) 15:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and expand - "It has been located in a designated historic building for more than 60 years" - in a downtown NYC venue that a number of bands launched from. Quality sources exist, many have already been mentioned above. Grmike (talk) 11:01, 28 April 2020 (UTC)grmike[reply]
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The result was redirect to Beer bread. MBisanz talk 23:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Corana bread

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I can't find any sources for this. Possible neologism or hoax.

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The result was speedy delete.

WP:G11, likely undisclosed paid editing. Author blocked. – bradv🍁 18:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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another paid for spam article, sourced entirely to fake news outlets run by blackhat seo firms (which i've removed), littered with fake claims of notability that cannot be verified by independent sources. Praxidicae (talk) 18:20, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Contrasts (Aziza Mustafa Zadeh album)

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Not enough sources exist to write an article of substance. Unsourced since 2009. Not notable. Vmavanti (talk) 23:41, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Vmavanti: Would you consider evaluating whether each of Aziza Mustafa Zadeh's works, as well as the biography on Aziza Mustafa Zadeh, is notable, and consolidating them all into one AfD (and withdrawing this AfD and any other AfDs you've submitted for the others)? The fragmented approach is a bit disorienting and it'd be easier to keep everything together. I think I'd be a delete on the AfD but I'd much prefer a consolidated AfD. For what it's worth I did find one mention of the album on page 233 of Music of Azerbaijan : From Mugham to Opera by Huseynova, Aida. (That's all I could find.) Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 08:27, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I propose deleting these
Shamans (album), Contrasts II. Thanks! I wish I could propose deleting several articles at once more often. I didn't know I could do that. On the Jazz Project Cleanup Listing I have a list of about 15 "articles" about German jazz festivals. All the articles were created by the same person in 2011 and have rarely been touched. These subjects are rarely covered in the American press. I doubt they are covered often in the German press. There's little to nothing about them. Many of these articles are only one sentence long, and they have just been hanging around. If you could help me with that I would appreciate it v. much.
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Comment. Aziza Mustafazadeh is notable beyond any doubt. I guess albums are notable as well but then someone needs to dig up references which are mainly in German and Azeri, and before somebody has done this it might be easier to merge these articles.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:11, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A person's notability doesn't automatically make their work notable. She is probably notable, but she gets very little to no coverage in English language sources.
Vmavanti (talk) 00:55, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage in English language sources is not a notability requirement. But we are not discussing her anyway.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:49, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Read the first sentence of your last post. Second, coverage in English sources is preferred on the English wikipedia because that's the language readers speak. Anything else is pointless. Keep the readers in mind.
Vmavanti (talk) 17:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It does not matter. If a person is not covered in English language sources, but extensively covered in Afghani sources, the person is notable. I however do not quite understand what we are debating about. I have an impression you simply want to have the last word. Please be my guest.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:55, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Are we sure this is a real rivalry?

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  • Delete While we've got one article that says it's a rivalry, it's not actually a "these are rivals" but instead is more of a puff/opinion piece. I can't find anything else which calls these two schools true rivals in the sense of the word. SportingFlyer T·C 18:31, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Sports Illustrated refers to it as a rivalry [7], but that's a bit of a puff piece. That and the one-contributer's-ranking piece in the Dallas Morning News in the article aren't enough to verify that this is actually a significant rivalry. Hog Farm (talk) 21:55, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Just because the two teams are in the same conference, doesn't mean they're rivals. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:17, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 02:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Biography of a person who doesn't appear to be the subject of significant coverage in independent sources. Fails

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  • Hello, this person is indeed notable to many young girls in India. How many young girls from India. Powerlifting is not as notable as sports like basketball, football, baseball. but indeed it's still a sport. Nami is not just a notable person but an extraordinary person in the eyes of young women in India. She is excelling in a sport that is usually dominated by men. Young girls in India inspire to be like her. Most of her write ups are in city newspapers and other sources such as instagram and facebook. This isn't because of her lack of notability but because powerlifting as a sport is neglected in the media. India focus is mainly on cricket other sports don'ty get the recognition they should. Name has done incredible things physically and in the unseen hearts of thousands of little girls in media she has shown them you don't have to be weak and insecure but you can be strong. She has shown them that deadlifting 300lbs isn't just a thing a guy can do but a girl can do too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthonytownley333 (talkcontribs) 18:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why delete it, it does no good to the of motivating young women powerlifting in India, this may seem like a small decision but let it be known this could be costly to the next generation of women powerlifters in India  :/ Anthonytownley333 (talk) 18:48, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, as a tertiary source, Wikipedia is ultimately constrained by what reliable sources decide to write about. Giving that judgment to other sources is part of how we try to approach subjects neutrally. There are many inspiring, talented, important people who unfortunately have not yet been recognized by other papers, magazines, books, websites, etc. so they don't satisfy our
notability requirements. These rules do contribute to systemic bias on Wikipedia. Even within sports, it is not even; nearly all professional footballers are considered notable, but most smaller sports are not (because footballers get more press coverage). It's disappointing sometimes... — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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I will note that I have not argued that it should be deleted; I just don't see enough for me to support keeping, either. If there were another really good source that would be enough for me, but I just don't see it. :/ — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:45, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:49, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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non notable musician, the only independent content about him is his escape from prison, which isn't notable. Praxidicae (talk) 17:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.

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No coverage except a few articles relating to the departure of Jennifer Morgan, where he's only briefly mentioned. No other evidence of meeting

WP:GNG. Article appears to have been created as an SEO attempt. At best merge to company's article. JamesG5 (talk) 17:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Strong keep: CEO of a 150bn DAX company with plenty of coverage in German news.-- Dewritech (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dewritech: Just asking for clarification, since I wasn't looking at German results, does the COMPANY have plenty of coverage, or is there coverage of Klein HIMSELF? I'm only seeing (at least in results in English) coverage for the company, which is why I suggested merging him. Thanks for the feedback. JamesG5 (talk) 02:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@JamesG5: There is enough coverage on the CEO.-- Dewritech (talk) 12:09, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dewritech: Ok. What I see there, first page, is 2 pages on company website, his Linkedin, his Twitter, another corporate page (Fieldglass), a few stories about Morgan departing where he's mentioned (as I noted in the nom that was the only time I was seeing him in the news), and a brief Bloomberg info listing. Going back a few more pages in Google, in English, anyway, turns up more of the same. Corp bios and the Morgan story. As the creator of the article says immediately below this "I tried to find some info except the official announcements, but seems that there is no much info and facts available" and that goes back to my reason for the nom. Not much independent 3rd party coverage. JamesG5 (talk) 15:56, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@JamesG5: You may want to look at other Google pages also: Handelsblatt, WirtschaftsWoche, Frankfurter Allgemeine, Spiegel, n-tv, CNBC, Reuters, WSJ, Financial Times, etc.-- Dewritech (talk) 18:26, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Dewritech: I mean, I hate to belabor a point but as far as I can tell between Google translate & paywalls on some of those only one of those (German source & I already said I was mostly looking at English results) is an actual interview with him. Other than that it's the same group of articles from late last year & early this year around the single incident of the beginning/ending of the co-CEO experiment. That's all as much about Jennifer Morgan & the experiment than him. JamesG5 (talk) 19:25, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Stong keep: I've created this page in order to start a page for the CEO of one of the biggest European software companies. It was really strange to enter the company article in English Wikipedia and to see the red link of the CEO's name. I tried to find some info except the official announcements, but seems that there is no much info and facts available - the guy graduated and started in SAP some 20 years ago and have grown to CEO position without switching to other companies. I hope in the future the community will help gather news, info, biography which might be useful for Wikipedia users searching for quality info about known companies and their people. If the article is not deleted I can try to spend some time to reach and get approval for use of photo and press release info about the CEO to be used in Wikipedia. @JamesG5: // Alexgs (talk) 08:06, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:PAID. Please note I didn't say he shouldn't be mentioned but my whole concern here was that generally bios require significant 3rd party coverage, and you yourself just admitted there is almost no such coverage. So a mention of him in the company article would seem like a good compromise. JamesG5 (talk) 16:00, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 02:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Doesn't meet

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The result was keep, withdrawn. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:25, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Unref article on recently deceased person. Succesful, but doesn't meet

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The result was speedy delete.

WP:G11, most likely undisclosed paid editing. – bradv🍁 18:34, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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This NGO is not notable enough and therefore fails GNG MistyGraceWhite (talk) 17:15, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - Notability is not an evenly calibrated bar. Some subjects/topics are more or less notable and this one is notable enough given the sources. This NGO is also notable enough for the medical world as it is the publisher for a major medical textbook on infectious diseases. They also host a number of popular podcasts and have a huge following from both lay and professional audiences. GeorgeTopouria
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:49, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:GNG. Apart from being Kangana Ranaut's sister, she is not known to media. Notability is not inherited. Brihaspati (talk) 17:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. – bradv🍁 17:16, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on

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I have just added a redirect for this page for an acronym, but the whole page looks a bit spammy (and the links to it). The only citation was a bare url to the home page of this person: https://enricomassetti.com/my-patents-enricos-inventions/ And Google finds absolutely nothing except copies of the Wikipedia article. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.

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Appear to be a non-notable pianist with no significant coverage in reliable sources. GSS💬 03:15, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sourcing requirements for companies are more stringent

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The article is about a company that lacks depth of coverage and reliability of sourcing that is required to establish notability. The sources presented are either press releases or closely authored, broadly about the topic of workforce management without mentioning the company/product or just contain "workforce software" as phrase, again without being about the company. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 12:12, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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It has been cited in several magazines and journals such as[12], [13], [14], [15], [16] and more if you search using their tools' names or website url. Gritmem (talk) 08:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The criteria for establishing notability for companies/organizations as per WP:NCORP is for multiple sources (at least two) of significant coverage with in-depth information *on the company* and (this bit is important!) containing "Independent Content". Also, "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. The references you've included above are either directory-like entries for the company (and relying on information provided by the company) or mentions-in-passing with the company name included as a company that provides workforce solutions. None of those references meet the criteria for establishing notability. ]
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Sir, can you please check for its products as well? There are many links likeCrains Detroit Business where it has been reported. The books which cites this company are also independent. Gritmem (talk) 16:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It would be much easier to create an article about a product of this company (assuming there are several reviews in reliable sources) with a brief note about the company. Pavlor (talk) 07:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is a good suggestion but can we trim the content and expand with product which has adequate references? Gritmem (talk) 18:40, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.

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The result was delete.

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non-notable pipe band. Ostrichyearning3 (talk) 16:37, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • KEEP- The proposal for removal of this (and other) pipeband(s) demonstrates the existence of a main issue with a number of people in the world of pipebands: the tendency of part of the piping world to use the participation to competitions as a general reference of importance. The other (non-competition)bands are then, quite insulting, qualified as "non-notable", with even attempts to remove them from the public eye. That is a very discriminatory, elitarian, divisive and extremely snobby approach.

This negative attitude does not only affect Field Marshal Haig's Own Pipes & Drums (further: FMHOP&D), but also many other similar non-competition bands and is endangering the spirit of comradeship within the pîpeband world.

Furthermore, the person proposing the deletion has obviously no serious knowledge about the pipeband scene in Flanders(Belgium) in general and even less about the hard work the small number of specific remembrance pipebands in Flanders, the Netherlands and France are doing on this subject. This is not meant as a personal attack, but does question the authority on the subject and, as a result of that, the justification of the proposal.

In the case of FMHOP&D, the list of, often voluntary and unpaid, involvements and initiatives in the remembrance of the Great War, and, to a lesser extent, of WW2 and other conflicts, is long, especially during the Great War Centenary years Furthermore, the tradition of pipe bands in the Great War was an extremely strong one, trying to wipe out the importance of remembering the legacy of these men is rather ignorant.

One can only wonder what the real motivations behind such a move are. IMHO, it's not to an individual, or even part of the pipe band scene, to decide which aspects (i.e. competition bands) are important and which not. If there is a doubt if entries about pipebands should be included on Wikipedia, then all articles (including those about competition bands)should be removed. Wikipedia should not be shaped according to the interests of one person or faction, but has to be aimed about making (as complete as possible) information available to everyone. Obansinglemalt (talk) 23:03, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Summarizing: a) the argument "non-notable" is personal and non-rational (to put it mildly) b) not only the entry for "Field Marshal Haig's Own Pipes & Drums" should be maintained, but also these of the all the other pipebands, proposed for deletion on the list of Ostrichyearning3, mentioned as "non-notable", as this argument doesn't comply with the policy of Wikipedia, which is aiming for, neutral, non-biased articles c)the person who tries to initiate the deletion is not qualified on the specific subject of pipebands in Flanders/BelgiumObansinglemalt (talk) 19:38, 5 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obansinglemalt (talk • contribs) 19:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

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  • Delete Per nom. No indepth coverage, a few foreign language sources, but all of them seem to be "things to see this weekend" kind of stuff and not anything that would show the
    WP:SIGCOV. I do have to say though, the accusation of pipeband discrimination has to be a first here. (Edit: Particularly when that accusation is leveled against a user who seems to have an unhealthy obsession with promoting pipe bands on Wikipedia) Sulfurboy (talk) 03:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - I'm not sure what to say other than the organization simply doesn't appear to be notable. As stated above, we don't have the in depth coverage that we need for a proper article. Deletion seems to be the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 19:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. And salt. Sandstein 21:43, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Encountered this as a new page reviewer. This article was previously deleted and in recent months has been moved in and out of mainspace and draft space as its creator seems determined to run with it despite it not being accepted at AfC. It categorically fails

WP: ARCHITECT in my view, and the sources are mainly to a single design competition that the subject entered and did not win. In view of the clear notability fail and the creator’s insistence I’d suggest delete and salt. Mccapra (talk) 15:47, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep.

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Does not meet current standard at WP:NCORP. The sources are mere notices. DGG ( talk ) 03:27, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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To ensure the original submission would be appropriately written and sourced, I tried to follow other entries in the ticket resale category -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StubHub, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeatGeek, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TicketsNow, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TicketIQ. The original submission followed StubHub and SeatGeek, including more robust citations, but those were deleted for being too promotional. Now there are fewer citations (similar to TicketsNow and TicketsIQ) which affects Notability. I am eager to fix the Vivid Seats entry to make it more appropriate for Wikipedia. I just need help better deciphering some of the edits and input, which sometimes conflict. It also would be helpful to know why this submission is being considered for deletion when no others the Ticket Sales Companies category are under similar consideration, including entries with similar citations. Please help me understand the best way to proceed.Jody Venturoni 17:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jventuroni (talkcontribs)

Jventuroni, a good starting point would be familiarizing yourself with the general notability guidelines so you know well the difference between in-depth versus trivial coverage, primary versus secondary sources, etc. Also
WP:NCORP has a list of things that are considered trivial coverage for companies (which have higher notability standards then regular topics) under "Examples of trivial coverage." Unfortunately a lot of stuff in this article wouldn't count under either. Although, I don't feel the need to give a play by play analysis of each source. If you look at the StubHub article though, trivial coverage only constitutes a small amount of it. The other two articles have questionable notability and shouldn't be used as examples IMO. --Adamant1 (talk) 17:45, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Comment I believe this should be a notable company, as it is the 3rd largest online ticket reseller, with partnerships with ESPN and other numerous sports teams and university teams. However, I haven't been able to find much independent RS with significant coverage of the company. Most sources mention Vivid Seats in passing, or are "press release" type announcements. Natg 19 (talk) 17:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Vivid Seats has received significant coverage in multiple analyst reports published by
    Moody's Investor Service noted in an analyst report in 2016, "Moody's also considers into the ratings Vivid Seats' solid market position in the online secondary ticket market, operating as the number three player behind, StubHub, owned by eBay, Inc., and Ticketmaster, owned by Live Nation Entertainment, Inc. Vivid Seats benefits from a diverse base of sellers, including season ticket holders and professional brokers who purchase tickets in bulk from primary issuers, and then use Vivid Seats' marketplace platform to resell tickets to consumers. While Vivid Seats' market share continues to grow rapidly, its competitors' greater financial resources, which includes the ability to subsidize pricing with other lines of business, or the entry of other large e-commerce providers could pressure pricing or increase marketing costs."

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The result was redirect to Aziza Mustafa Zadeh. MBisanz talk 23:50, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inspiration (Aziza Mustafa Zadeh album)

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Not notable. Unsourced since 2009. Not enough sources exist to write an article of substance. Vmavanti (talk) 23:47, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 21:41, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Non notable subject - majority of the content is unsourced and there's nothing on Google News, Fails NOTGUIDE, (to some extent NOTDIR) and GNG –Davey2010Talk 13:03, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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To a certain extent I believe this falls under "Travel guide".... Generally speaking it's peoples interpretation of them. –Davey2010Talk 09:28, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I had actually tried to find sources on this article, though I say isn't totally successful. Some sources:
  • I suggest at most this list should be merged into their respective lines when talking about name votings, and just display their working names in the respective station articles.--ZKang123 (talk) 02:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. Due to a lack of sourcing and therefore notability
    WP:LISTN. Proposed names, could possibly be included into individual station articles if properly sourced. Ajf773 (talk) 10:38, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Sandstein 21:41, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails

WP:NSEASONS as it was the sixth tier of Australian football which is way too low to be deemed professional or even semi-professional. HawkAussie (talk) 12:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Yunshui  13:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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non notable musician with 0 independent sources and no in depth coverage. Praxidicae (talk) 12:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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We don't move spammy articles with fake sources to incubate in draft space. Toosoon only applies if there's a reasonable expectation of notability, we don't just assume everything is "too soon" to be notable. Praxidicae (talk) 16:25, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. There are multiple subsets of the notability criteria under which this individual could be assessed, but the consensus here seems to be that he doesn't meet any of them. Yunshui  13:14, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. Candidates are not generally notable per WP:NPOL and not seeing anything else to make him notable. Should he be elected he would be notable Gbawden (talk) 12:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete non-notable political candidate, not convinced by the ]
  • Delete per SportingFlyer. Royalbroil 22:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The article isn't actually claiming or sourcing anything that would get him over our notability standards for soldiers, authors or actors either, so the fact that he's done those things still doesn't controvert his lack of notability as a politician. Authors are not notable just because you can source the existence of their books to directories like the Library of Congress or GoodReads; making an author notable enough for a Wikipedia article requires you to reference the books to
    reliable source coverage about the books, such as news stories about his authorship of a book or critical reviews of the book in media. Actors are not notable just because you can source the fact that they had an acting role to IMDb; making an actor notable enough for a Wikipedia article requires reliable source coverage about his acting, such as news articles about his acting or critical reviews of his performance in media. And on and so forth: the notability test for a person isn't what the article says, it's how well the things it says are referenced to media coverage about him.
    But the only sources here that represent any sort of media coverage about him are (a) a single article about his as yet non-winning electoral candidacy, which is not enough to make him more special than other non-winning electoral candidates because every candidate in every district can always show some of that, and (b) a single article in a smalltown community hyperlocal about him opening a smalltown café, which is not a notability claim at all. And appearances in media aren't notability boosters, either: people do not get over the notability bar by being the speaker in media coverage of other things, they get over the notability bar by being the subject that other people are speaking or writing about. (And also, The Blaze is not a reliable or notability-assisting source at all anyway.)
    Obviously he'll qualify for an article in November if he wins the seat, since his notability claim will have changed from "candidate" to "officeholder", but nothing here is already enough today. Bearcat (talk) 14:38, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete Currently fails
    WP:NAUTHOR. If he wins we can always re-create the article. Best, GPL93 (talk) 19:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 10:21, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewed under new article curation / review process. No indication of wp:notability. The sources given are just listings on websites. I hate to say it but this is a missing person report rather than an encyclopedia article and am just trying to do my job properly bringing it to AFD. North8000 (talk) 11:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. CSD G11 as per previous versions of the article which had been extensively spammed across various titles. User also blocked now as a promotional only account. Nick (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Subject of article is a non notable musician that falls short of

WP:GNG either. This article has been deleted & re-created almost three times now under different names. Celestina007 (talk) 10:58, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 10:20, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BLP requirements thus do not have inherited notability. There is no need for such low level profiling on a separate list. Ajf773 (talk) 09:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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I am also nominating the following related pages:

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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 10:19, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BLP requirements thus do not have inherited notability. There is no need for such low level profiling on a separate list. Ajf773 (talk) 09:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 10:18, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BLP requirements thus do not have inherited notability. There is no need for such low level profiling on a separate list. Ajf773 (talk) 09:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 10:18, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BLP requirements thus do not have inherited notability. There is no need for such low level profiling on a separate list. Ajf773 (talk) 09:42, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 10:18, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I also think it should be deleted. She isn't noteworthy according to the Wikipedia guidelines. Nearly half the article is about the Portland home debacle, which is a word-for-word copy of the same section in Kevin Rose's article. I added a PROD, but it was removed by a moderator. I added a deletion nomination tag to the article. If a registered user could create the article's deletion discussion page, I'd appreciate it. 104.190.186.102 (talk) 08:13, 22 April 2020 (UTC) created for above signed IP user, using comment left on Talk:Darya Rose. ~ GB fan 09:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC) [reply]

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Delete This little vanity article should go. Its subject isn't notable enough even for the Encyclopedia that Anyone May Edit. Chisme (talk) 17:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to

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I can't find any sources about the women on Christmas Island specifically, and the article is referenced only to a now defunct website of a Christmas Island Women's Association, and to a news piece about an event celebrating 8 March on the island. But that's not surprising given that the island has fewer than 2,000 inhabitants altogether. – Uanfala (talk) 00:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Changing my !vote to merge and redirect to possibly, a section in ]
Compare Women in the Cocos (Keeling) Islands? PamD 09:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And the various links, both red and blue, in the "Women in Oceania" template at page footer and in Women in Oceania#See also. PamD 09:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, yes I did miss those. But, see
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I do not see how any of these small "territorial islands" will ever be notable in their own right for such a specific subject. I am not saying that the content is not important, just that it should, and now the other such articles too, in the case of Australia, be included in the main article, Women in Australia. Aoziwe (talk) 13:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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... And have expanded the article. PamD 09:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And what do we end up with? More references to a women's organization in Christmas Island, which is tangential to the subject but not about the subject. Plus, census figures and a report about the social issues behind the low child-birth rates. -The Gnome (talk) 00:20, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I'd also support a merge and redirect (despite the poor title - the only women "in" Christmas Island are dead and buried) to Christmas Island since there seems to be a little info worth saving. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Christmas Island. Suggestion amended to facilitate consensus. -The Gnome (talk) 16:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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No evidence of notability that warrants a separate article for every single work of the author. There is no meaningful content in this article that cannot be covered in the article of the corresponding author. Mopswade (talk) 09:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.

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No evidence of notability. There is no meaningful content in this article that cannot be covered in the article of the corresponding author. Mopswade (talk) 08:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Striking my !vote, noticed that there is scatter gun deletion here with no evidence of BEFORE. --Goldsztajn (talk) 20:59, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for essentially the same reason I've just outlined at
    WP:BK. It strikes me as likely that sources in Indian languages, which I'm not able to find as I only speak English, will also exist. Given Tagore's prolific career, it isn't reasonable, as the nominator seems to suggest, to discuss each of his works in his article." To which I'll add that redirecting this to an article where it isn't mentioned would also be unwise for obvious reasons. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 20:38, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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As this is arguably one of the more famous of his works, there is scope for expansion. At the same time, the sources on the article only have a limited mention of the work (summary/transcribed work), and considering that it didn't even receive a passing mention in the article of the author and does not give any new content that doesn't exist in the list of his works. Not saying that it can't be developed, but there doesn't seem to be any meaning in creating one line articles of which the information is covered elsewhere. Mopswade (talk) 07:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. ♠PMC(talk) 10:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:LISTN and WP:V. Störm (talk) 08:35, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:08, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No non-primary sources available as far as I see. The article has essentially no content and references. Mopswade (talk) 08:32, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Unreferenced BLP and the person described is not notable. Not to mention the poorly written content as well. Mopswade (talk) 08:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - A bit of research confirms that this individual did indeed exist and write music that has attracted some notice. However, notability doesn't appear to really exist in terms of our guidelines. A lot of online discussion is out there, but I don't see reliable sources as a part of that. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. I agree with Fenix down towards the end of the discussion: the case for deletion seems to be stronger than the case for keeping, but it is with a few exceptions so poorly articulated here, with most "delete" opinions making no understandable argument, that I can't find a consensus for deletion. Sandstein 08:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

American coaches of foreign national soccer teams (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Uh... Is nobody going to explain this? The

featured list
ever.

As an American myself, I hate it when people unnecessarily fancruft or circlejerk about their or favorite club or country's footballing endeavors, especially the country of my origin. Plus, everything in this "prose and table" is already covered in each person's biography. Kinda surprising how there aren't any articles about

WP:ARTN. Do I need to go on any longer? KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 17:11, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - The article doesn't appear appropriate. Plenty of individual coaches seem notable in this context, but that notability doesn't automatically transfer over to the concept itself. I'm not that familiar with our guidelines in terms of sports-related topics. Yet a certain amount of common sense is in order. As stated above, it's not right to synthesize notability the way that the article does. Deletion appears to be the right call. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:40, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 08:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A set of "Place"s, all in the forests of northern California, all of them single (or no) buildings, all of them GNIS dumps, and none of which has any evidence of being an actual settlement. These are rather difficult to search since they crank out false hits for several reasons, but I got nothing for any of them except for one "cemetery" reference on Find-a-Grave for a single burial. There are a lot of "Place"s in California, and nominating the lot in a single shot is too likely to get procedural resistance, but I really don't want to crank through fifty or so single nominations that are all the same. Mangoe (talk) 02:36, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Yunshui  06:46, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence of a settlement here. Appears to be a mine-related mill. –dlthewave 01:07, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. czar 00:25, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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primary sources (an academic scholarship's own self-published list of its own recipients, his academic dissertation referenced to its presence in his alma mater's directory of its own students' academic dissertations, and the staff profile) with no evidence of any coverage about him in any reliable or independent sources, and says nothing about him that would be "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced much better than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Please show the best three sources you're seeing, because I'm finding absolutely nothing that would count as a
reliable or notability-making source — all I'm getting is staff profiles on the self-published websites of his own employer and other affiliated organizations, blogs and pieces of his own bylined writing about other subjects, with not a shred of evidence of any reliable sources in which he's the subject. Bearcat (talk) 19:48, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. No prejudice against redirection. czar 00:27, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Entirely unreferenced article that fails to demonstrate any notability, and contains nothing but a description of the product and what it does - nothing that might be considered to be

encyclopedic content. In its current form it serves only to promote or publicise the product, and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic. Dorsetonian (talk) 06:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Comment thanks but these are passing mentions. None of them is about the subject. Some just namecheck it and others just briefly mention what it is. Mccapra (talk) 12:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment, this appears to be essential equipment for
    promotional" (ie. no links to/promotional words on any specific brand/type of timer), at the very least, a Redirect may be in order, as a wikireader lookup? ps. as an aside, yes, its interesting that it has remained unsourced for so long (more editors should join Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles, now this is some blatant promotion:)), but that isn't really a reason to delete, i note that other "essential" sports equipment articles are also un/underreferenced, for example, the hockey stick article, although being around 1400 words long, has unreferenced sections and a total of 3 references, yes i know the "other things" argument is a no no, nevertheless.... Coolabahapple (talk) 02:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete (second choice would be a redirect to Speedcubing#Competitions but to be honest I'd prefer to delete the StackMat reference, which is an odd brand reference in the middle of an article, there too). The sources in the article fall well short of anything that would convey notability (it's all trivial coverage, passing mentions of StackMat in articles all about other things) and I didn't find much else through my search. Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 08:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.

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This dental company fails

WP:CORP notability standards. All the sources in the article are trivial coverage and that's all that comes up in a Google search. Adamant1 (talk) 05:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Yunshui  06:45, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable businessperson; fails

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The result was delete.

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I cannot find secondary coverage of her. I actually am the person who created the article back in 2009. I have since come to feel that we some of those past decisions were unwise. In this case Bateman had a second role in Mobsters and Mormons but I have not come up with any reliable source coverage so I think we are best off with scrapping the article. John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:45, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The earliest version of this article did have additional sources. I am not sure why they were removed. I am also not sure how much they would qualify as reliable or third party in some cases. It did give us a lot more information on her than the current version. I am unconvinced though that there were ever enough sources on the article to pass the general notability guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:48, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. There is a narrow but policy-supported consensus that the sources provided do not suffice to support notability for this subject. No prejudice against restoring to draft if further improvements can be made to overcome these objections. BD2412 T 01:43, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable person, Wikipedia is not LinkedIn, even the mentioned company is not on Wikipedia. The business person is only locally "known", the Stanford link is a generic set of interviews done in Estonia to record and archive local lives of locals (notable and non-notable people). One startup person among dozens of thousands. Article wrote by only one editor with an excessive promoting tone. Userland12 (talk) 15:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • She is the youngest Estonian female millionaire and definitely notable enough for English Wikipedia. There is nothing do debate about. Anyone who claims something else has not looked into the topic. Ivo (talk) 16:41, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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