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The result was keep‎.

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Nationale Top 40 Suriname

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A article about record chart failing

WP:BLOGS, other than I couldn't any reliable sources to proof that it's notable with significant coverage from secondary reliable sources and also independent of the subject. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:32, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete The chart's data collection and neutrality are unclear, and no music chart would just track three items on a list. Nate • (chatter) 00:09, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PROD candidate, ineligible for soft deletion.
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  • Keep. I am a bit confused by the nom, as both Starnieuws and Waterkant are news media of some stature and definitely not blogs. I am not seeing any problem with the sourcing here. It should not be a surprise that a Surinamese Top 40 list will be covered chiefly in Surinamese media. Some more sources would be nice, but they certainly exist, see e.g. [1], [2]. -- Visviva (talk) 01:56, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep per Visviva. マリオマリオ (talk) 22:06, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I don't see the GNG problems here either. I'm also not sure why the chart's data collection and neutrality would matter; it's the article subject. GNG sources should be independent, but there is no policy, guideline, or other form of consensus that says article subjects need to be neutral – what would that even mean –, nor that charts need to track a certain number of items to be eligible for an article. The deletion arguments provided so far are very unconvincing to me. Actualcpscm (talk) 20:06, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy delete per

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Manek Mistry

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Unsourced BLP, searches come up with mainly educational writer namesakes. Karnataka (talk) 22:32, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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    Delete ZERO sourcing, could be a hoax. I'd have sent it for speedy deletion, but it works the same. Oaktree b (talk) 23:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    we are about to complete his profile page of wiki we are compiling information so would request you not to delete it Sushantwildlife (talk) 10:35, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
could have done a PROD PaulGamerBoy360 (talk) 04:21, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete‎ as a hoax/attack article. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:17, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Larson (celebrity)

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Non-notable TikToker (?). Beyond mentions in TikTok videos and a subreddit, I could find nothing on him. 0 coverage in RS. ULPS (talk) 21:38, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Speedy delete. This article has been moved around at least a half dozen times to numerous different titles and namespaces by this editor, most recently deleted as an attack page at Draft:Daniel Larson (President). The page creator tried to hijack Dan Larson (politician) which required numerous revision deletions. I think this article should also be speedy deleted and this editor face sanctions for continuing to create unflattering pages about this person (if they even exist). Liz Read! Talk! 22:00, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Would you say it qualifies under G10? I didn't think A7 applied (the billion views thing + being allegedly killed by police), but I was unsure considering it's not an unambiguous attack. Not a hoax either, the guy seemingly does exist. ULPS (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, considering the BLP is unsourced, I wouldn't rule out that it is a total hoax and the photo might be of someone else entirely. I think if someone was a TikTok celebrity and was killed by the police it would not just be on local news but national news. I'd delete it myself but I've already commented here. But I think that my POV is also colored by the fact that I've seen this exact same article with the same content many times under different page titles over the past two weeks. Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the police murder thing is a lie, but he does seem to exist. I think we should let the AfD run (most likely will end up deleted anyway) but if someone else decides to tag or delete I wouldn't complain lol. ULPS (talk) 02:30, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I suspect this is a hoax. The photo is apparently a selfie, so would have been created by this person. It was taken on July 5, and the article here says he died on the 11th. He took the photo, uploaded it to wikipedia, died, then someone else made an article about him a week later, using the photo? The only person with the same name [3] for which I found coverage would be about 20 yrs older and only covered in tabloid sources.Oaktree b (talk) 04:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:44, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cizario da Costa

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I created this article before the SNGs were deprecated. Subject earned two caps for the

WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 21:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to

mention me) 20:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Adam's World of Imagination

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Fails

routine coverage won't count. The Doom Patrol (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. RL0919 (talk) 20:46, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Valiyaveettil Movie International

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Fails

routine coverage won't count. The Doom Patrol (talk) 20:24, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to

mention me) 20:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Amal Neerad Productions

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Fails

routine coverage won't count. The Doom Patrol (talk) 20:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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I know that. I think you are not following. Coverage for film related events won't count as notability for a company. The Doom Patrol (talk) 10:10, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to

mention me) 20:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Anwar Rasheed Entertainments

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Fails

routine coverage won't count. The Doom Patrol (talk) 20:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to

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Working Class Hero (film production company)

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Fails

routine coverage won't count. The Doom Patrol (talk) 20:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete: per nom. No significant coverage from multiple reliable sources to meet GNG. 116.68.98.76 (talk) 12:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was withdrawn‎.

mention me) 20:30, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Karan Verma

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Only one lead role, nothing else notable. Fails

WP:NACTOR
.

I am also nominating the following related pages because fails WP:NACTOR.

WP:NACTOR - no notable lead roles - see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Surya Sreenivas and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karam Dosa. DareshMohan (talk) 20:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  1. Both of these people are actors not creative professionals.
  2. The criterion is "The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions;" or "The person has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment."
  3. There is nothing unique for both of them; they did not direct or write any films, so first criterion.
  4. Karan Verma: With just one film, it is a
    WP:Too early
    .
  5. Surya Sreenivas:
Film Role Notes Notable
Karam Dosa Second lead Shivakumar Ramachandravarapu has a bigger character. No 2 reliable reviews. Yes
Nenosta Lead No article. No 2 reliable reviews. No
Mahanati Supporting/cameo portrayed actor NTR Yes
Kudi Yedamaithe Supporting Yes

DareshMohan (talk) 03:43, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are right but Karan Verma has attracted quite a lot of attention for his only role so far. Even with what's currently on the page, can we not say that he meets the general criterion ("People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject")? (I'll leave it at that) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 04:27, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So one notable film = multiple films? DareshMohan (talk) 04:30, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No. Who said that? He meets the general criterion for people not the specific criteria for actors. Again, I'll leave it that, thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 04:32, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank: What makes Surya Sreenivas okayish notable? 4 of his lead films have no article/2 reviews. DareshMohan (talk) 04:32, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Significant is not necessarily a lead role. One lead role in a film at least. And significant characters in 3/4 web series. I'm really leaving it at that, now. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 04:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎.

mention me) 20:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Women in Cinema Collective

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Fails

WP:INHERITORG). Inherent notability (assumed by media) has resulted in articles about its establishment and objectives and not based on their contributions or impact. The Doom Patrol (talk) 20:11, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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—siroχo 21:44, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy Delete per CSD A7 Non-admin closure‎. Vulcan's Forge (talk) 18:56, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gujarat FC

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Only source is a 6 year old article (that I can't access from this neck of the woods anyhow) that is titled "...Gujarat could have an ISL, I-League team soon". My BEFORE can not find anything only the similar named state football team, therefore I thinks the article should be deleted now and re-created if/when a team actually is formed in the future. Josey Wales Parley 20:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to

mention me) 20:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The Path of Duty

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Non-notable episode, sources in article are IMDb and a factfile website with plot summaries. BEFORE searches give where to watch and a few passing mentions with brief plot summary when describing the TV series this stems from. Karnataka (talk) 20:01, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎.

(non-admin closure) Actualcpscm (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Devendra Kumar Upadhyaya

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This article fails

WP:GNG. The person is not elected representative, representing government at any level and sources are also scarce. Admantine123 (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:47, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Duckstation (emulator)

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Fails

WP:VG/S Google searches and found only one reliable source, but at two sentences/paragraphs about the subject it's hardly significant. A more general Google search turned up only the usual primary sources, databases, forums, social media posts, etc. Woodroar (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge‎ to

mention me) 20:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Frederick Augustus Coe

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Only notable through his son. Google and perplexity.ai have nothing. Wire723 (talk) 18:17, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment to justify the merge. There is information in this article that is useful to a biography of
    WP:REDUNDANTFORK) and should be merged into the correct article. I volunteer to handle the merge if that is the consensus. —siroχo 20:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Merge as a reasonable
    WP:ATD. This is a possible search term and verified information can well be placed in the son's article. Eluchil404 (talk) 01:27, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:32, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hutchings High School

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Only primary sources provided. No coverage to meet

WP:NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 11:22, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. Has been revised and has multiple solid sources now.
Lijil (talk) 20:06, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, largely per Elemimele. I find the "scandal" sources more persuasive than the others cited in this discussion so far. In any event, here are some additional sources that haven't been cited thus far: [13], [14], [15]. Being quite substantial and directly related to the article subject, and published in independent reliable sources, it appears to me that these articles in particular meet the GNG. (They might meet NORG as well, but we don't have to get into that per
    WP:ATAATA material that it has its own bullet point there and also gets a mention at Wikipedia:When to use or avoid "other stuff exists" arguments. -- Visviva (talk) 03:22, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎.

(non-admin closure) Actualcpscm (talk) 20:18, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Fionna Gibb

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Fails

WP:SIGCOV about her and would be better placed in the relevant bilateral relations article. LibStar (talk) 10:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Weak keep per the sources. NYC Guru (talk) 14:59, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - there is enough to support her notability in my opinion including coverage of an attempted assassination in Yemen that she survived, and I think ambassadors probably should be considered more notable than not for inclusion. - Indefensible (talk) 19:00, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Lacks in-depth coverage in independent sources, as needed to meet
    WP:NBIO. MrsSnoozyTurtle 05:23, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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    Keep per Indefensible. Okoslavia (talk) 10:45, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Here is one more source from MENA REPORT via ProQuest [19].
    WP:BASIC states If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability (with a long note about what trivial type sources don't help). The sources we have seem to provide that at this point. —siroχo 22:15, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep per Indefensible and Siroxo. Sal2100 (talk) 22:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎.

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The Showdown (rugby union)

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Fails

WP:FANCRUFT. I suggested a redirect to a specific section on Saracens F.C. but was reverted. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

The nature of the article is wholly consistent with similar approved articles linked to
WP:NRIVALRY, as it is not even a year old. Indeed, the coverage of the matches detailed in this article is consistent with, and no less significant, than the matches detailed in these other three articles which, again, the OP has raised no objection to. Therefore, the OP's consideration for what qualifies as notable or significant would seem to be fairly selective, arbitrary and inconsistent with the aforementioned approved articles. If necessary, I would be happy to update this article with further citations to demonstrate the extent of the coverage although, to reiterate, this would be going above and beyond what has already been accepted for both The Big Game (rugby union) and Slater Cup. Lastly, the OP's final statement is not quite accurate - as the article's revision history shows, their action was less a suggestion, and more a blanket removal of the article's entire contents without any discussion. I would respectfully suggest refraining from making such unilateral decisions in future, in cases where there is no clearly no consensus for such an action. House of Laughs (talk) 10:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Keep: For all of the reasons outlined in the above reply, and with no objections having been lodged by anyone else, I propose keeping the article, closing this discussion and removing the
WP:GNG, but rather on their personal views on specific clubs. House of Laughs (talk) 10:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
There is far more GNG related coverage for The Big Game than there is for The Showdown, given its longevity over a period of time. Also the Slater Cup features the same two sides each fixture, and there is coverage of the rivalry between the two sides. Dependent on the outcome of this AfD I will then consider nominations/redirecting for The Clash as I'm not seeing much in relation to that one, but given we have this AfD in process, and the lack of engagement rugby union AfDs get at the moment, another very similar AfD at the same time isn't in the best interests of other editors at this time, given that the outcome of this AfD will likely effect that one. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:21, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Longevity was clearly not the defining factor for either
WP:GNG, and only serve to dissuade editors from contributing. House of Laughs (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Updated - As an olive branch, and in the interest of resolving this matter quickly, I have consolidated all of the showpiece fixtures hosted by
WP:AfD. House of Laughs (talk) 22:34, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment. If others are to !vote here, we might benefit from
    WP:SPORTSEVENT. —siroχo 22:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    KEEP: If this test would help to expedite the process, I am happy to oblige. To highlight 3 sources that should satisfy the nominator's personal definition of
    WP:NRIVALRY
    , I submit:
    [1] (Independent coverage on the profile of the two clubs as Premiership Rugby's biggest rivalry)
    [2] (Independent source verifying this fixture's status as setting the world record for a rugby union club match attendance in 2015, which remains a Premiership record)
    [3] (Independent source verifying this fixture's status as setting highest viewership for a Premiership match in history in 2023, which remains a record)
    Also, in the interest of consistency, it is important to consider this article in the context of 4 similar, approved articles about other showpiece fixtures in Premiership Rugby – The Big Game (rugby union), Slater Cup, London Double Header and The Clash (rugby union) – to which, I highlight the following:
    • None of those 4 articles have required such an extensive test to prove their satisfaction of either
      WP:NRIVALRY
      as this one;
    • None of those 4 articles' current versions have anywhere near the level of citations and demonstration of coverage as this one;
    • If we were to treat the nominator's definition of
      WP:NRIVALRY
      in this AfD as gospel, and apply it consistently, all 4 of those articles would fail and would all be nominated for deletion – yet all 4 have been accepted for a long period of time.
    Therefore, it is clear that the nominator has not treated this article on The Showdown – which, to any objective observer, is extremely similar to those other 4 articles – with a consistent approach to
    WP:GNG. And, to put it in stark terms, if they were being consistent, either all of these articles are acceptable, or none of them are. Given the precedent set by the acceptance of those 4 similar articles over the course of many years, it is only logical that this article is treated the same. House of Laughs (talk) 17:46, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]

References

  1. ^ "Why Harlequins v Saracens is English rugby's bitterest rivalry". The Times. 10 June 2022. Retrieved 17 July 2023.
  2. ^ "Saracens put on a show in front of world record crowd at Wembley". Eurosport. Retrieved 17 July 2023.
  3. ^ "Premiership Rugby smashes TV record with Farrell v Smith showdown". Rugby World. 29 March 2023. Retrieved 11 July 2023.
  • I'll say weak keep based on the example sources provided and an examination of those in the article. I cannot see the Eurosport source and am not familiar with coverage of rugby union, so I am not confident, but it seems likely there's enough independent coverage in the sources to put together an article without requiring original research. The key for me is that the idea of a rivalry is verifiable and not OR. —siroχo 21:38, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ramkishan Suthar

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Fails in WP:GNG , WP:BIO Worldiswide (talk) 03:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails

WP:BIO for any biography because the subject of the article doesn't have any notable honours or nominations, no particularly notable contributions, or an entry in any country's national biography. As this biography fails all three points, it is eligible for deletion. All mentions I could find of the subject are trivial: mostly primarily talking about works that he played a part in. I don't see how we could disambig this or merge it, so deletion seems to be the only solution. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 03:42, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

Thank you for your evaluation of the biography article. I understand that the subject lacks notable honors, nominations, and significant contributions, and that the mentions of the subject are primarily related to works they were involved in. I agree that notability is an important criterion for inclusion on Wikipedia.
However, I would like to highlight a few points that could warrant further consideration before proceeding with deletion. While the subject may not have received notable honors or nominations, it's worth exploring whether they have made any significant contributions within their field or industry, even if they are not widely recognized. Additionally, it's important to carefully assess the reliability and independence of the sources used to determine the subject's notability.
Furthermore, although the mentions of the subject may currently appear trivial, it's possible that with additional research and sourcing, a more comprehensive picture of their significance could emerge. It may be worth exploring the potential for expansion and improvement of the article rather than opting for immediate deletion.
Before making a final decision, I encourage engaging in a discussion with other editors to gather diverse perspectives on the article's notability and potential solutions. Collaboration and consensus-building within the Wikipedia community often lead to better outcomes.
Ultimately, I respect the guidelines and policies of Wikipedia, and I'm open to considering different viewpoints on this matter. I believe that a well-informed and balanced approach will help us reach the most appropriate resolution for the article in question. Atulkulhari007 (talk) 04:23, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

*::Keep per Siroxo. Okoslavia (talk) 04:29, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete possible UPE promotion. Discussion on my talk page giving me an impression of COI. Okoslavia (talk) 07:42, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed a clear case of COI. Please see my talk. Okoslavia (talk) 07:53, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I can't explain you properly but there is no one promoting here Atulkulhari007 (talk) 08:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:33, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ristorante Machiavelli

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A restaurant that only gets local coverage/reviews. Would need wider coverage as per WP:AUD to meet GNG or WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 03:19, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per GNG (disclaimer: article creator) as the topic has been covered by multiple independent and reliable sources. This is a continuation of restaurant entries mass-nominated for deletion unnecessarily (my user talk page is littered with notifications for similar entries which have been kept following AfD discussions). Like prior attempts to gut coverage of the restaurant industry, I have no choice but to assume nominator did not complete a thorough source assessment before jumping to AfD because I very easily found many reliable local and regional news sources as well as books and other industry outlets, providing in-depth coverage of the business. I've asked the nominator many times to please post concerns on talk pages before mass-nominating and jumping to AfD. This entry should be kept and expanded, not deleted. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:03, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete I'm looking at the sources, and they are all either local reviews or listings in somewhat larger works. If that is all a restaurant has, it does not distinguish it from hundreds of thousands of others. I could write a similar article about a dozen restaurants in the town closest to where I live (which is about 5% of the size of Seattle). None of those are notable either; they have no significant history and are not mentioned in sources that are not restaurant listings. Black Kite (talk) 18:24, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I've expanded the article significantly, but I haven't even touched The Seattle Times archives or completed a library search for other newspaper and book sources. I am curious if you searched for sources other than those already used as citations? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. Neutral on this. Probably scrapes a GNG pass. Sourcing is better than Post Alley Pizza. The reception section requires a severe pruning to remove the promotional dross. Rupples (talk) 20:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep and tag for cleanup. As explained by Peaceray above, this passes AUD, and Bon Appetit alone would satisfy the strict requirement of [a]t least one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source. And based on the abundant other reviews I don't think there's any question that it passes the other elements of NCORP, viz. ha[ving] been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. I don't really see the NOTTRAVEL argument here -- the existing article may have some unencyclopedic bits, but it doesn't seem to me that it is wholly or irreparably unencyclopedic (and TBH I'd guess the overemphasis on reviews probably comes from defensive editing to pass NCORP), so that's more of a cleanup issue. My keep is weak mostly because although the technical requirements of the rules are met, I'm just not presuaded this is the best way to approach this encyclopedically. I'd much rather have a more full-featured List of restaurants in Seattle (or sublists) and merge all these articles there. But as no plausible merge target currently exists and we face a simple question of whether to include encyclopedic information about this restaurant as a standalone article or not at all, I'm not seeing a case for deletion. -- Visviva (talk) 01:19, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- the sourcing in the article is sufficient to meet GNG. Arguments that similar sourcing would allow many such articles to be written about restaurants in smaller towns than Seattle aren't convincing. If that's true then those articles shouldn't be deleted either, or perhaps it's a rhetorical exaggeration, as "local coverage" means very different things depending on the locations. Seattle metro has more than 4 million people, roughly the population of Panama. Regional coverage there carries some weight. Central and Adams (talk) 12:12, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎ per sources identified.

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Jürgen L. Born

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does not pass notability requirements Medarduss (talk) 16:47, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Definitely unnotable, no widespread coverage at all besides his own personal pages. May be self-promotional. GuardianH (talk) 18:49, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep there is a large amount of coverage (lots of negative coverage, some standard media interviews) but might fall under
    WP:BLP1E as outside of interviews it's all about one scandal afaict. eg. [20][21]. However, the subject had an interview as recently as [22] 2020. As such they would not meet BLP1E, hence my lean towards keep. —siroχo 22:44, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    The de:Jürgen Born article has some sources as well, and is much more in-depth.. —siroχo 23:11, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:51, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2020 Iran gasoline export to Venezuela

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Per

Iran-Venezuela relations article. NoonIcarus (talk) 15:55, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
]

At first glance, all of these references are passing mentions of the crisis in Venezuela as a whole, and none of them delve in long lasting consequences. That is further proof that any notable content can be covered in other articles, as it already is. --NoonIcarus (talk) 17:45, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we are dealing with both deep sources and passing mentions. Deep reliable sources are required to prove the notability. Plus, the very fact that the gas export in 2020 is still being covered by academic books shows that the subject is not merely a NEWS or so. --Mhhossein talk 11:36, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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]

Already explained why these two are not applicable here. Despite the OP's claim, the subject has been covered by reliable books like 2021, 2021, 2021, 2022, and 2022. --Mhhossein talk 07:25, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Responding to the last comments, the mentions are not related to notability as much as just coverage. A traffic accident or a robbery can have significant coverage, even nationwide or by academic sources, but at the end lasting impact is what determines notability. This is probably the same reason why these books at the end are not about the shipment, but rather about other topics: "US Energy Diplomacy in the Caspian Sea Basin", "The World Almanac of Islamism 2021", "Sanctions as War", "Iranian-Saudi Rivalry Since 1979", and "The New Cold War, China, and the Caribbean". --NoonIcarus (talk) 22:15, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:52, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Abderrahmane Lounici

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Notability MrBauer24 (talk) 18:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many people in the UK knew mr Abderrahmane, but very little information was shared about him. Sources used were from the British Broadcasting Corperation. As someone who lived in leyton for a long period of time, he was a well known individual. VICE news and Ladbible also confirmed that his name was indeed Abderrahmane Lounici.
talk) 18:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
]
Furthermore, the sources are provided from the BBC, more sources will be provided towards the future.
talk) 18:53, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Delete Need to include the sources in the article. The onus is on you (the article creator) to prove notability. HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i already included the sources in the article, if you actually went on the page you would see this is true. Furthermore, there is only about 2 newspaper articles about him. So your in the wrong.
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]
That source does not cover most of the information included in the article. For example, the name "Richi" is not mentioned once in the article. Neither is "Mali Boys". Nor the Arabic translation. Drill is not mentioned at all. etc. Most of the articles information is therefore
WP:PRIMER. For what it's worth, I am familiar with the topic. HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 21:29, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎.

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China and the Russian invasion of Ukraine

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No such proof that China has "invaded" Ukraine. At best this is Crystal ball and propaganda. At worst this is complete and total fake news as this hasn't happened. CaribDigita (talk) 18:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. The nom is inaccurate as the article does not claim that China participated in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Rather, this is an article about how China has reacted to the invasion and what attitudes have been taken by the Chinese government, media, and citizens toward it. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:38, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - If you go back to March 2022 when this article was written, the terminology at the time - at least the buzz phrase used by the media - was "China and the Russian invasion of Ukraine" So I would not quite call it "Crystal ball and propaganda", as that's how the general media saw it then. — Maile (talk) 18:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The first link that turns up: "SOAS" is just an event title. By "a public research university in London, England, and a member institution of the federal University of London."
    Those are all the same three sources over and over.
    First one is a government owned agency of the UK.
    Second one is a government owned agency of Canada.
    The third is just J.P. Morgan investor.
    And the rest are mirrors of the first three podcast and all.
    And actually that's the very epitome of propaganda (Definition @ Merriam-Webster).
    Is there any truth that China is *in* Ukraine per the title "Chana & the Russian **invasion** of Ukraine"? CaribDigita (talk) 20:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I don’t understand this nom at all. It seems obvious but here are recent news refs covering the topic: [24], [25], [26], [27], [28]. The topic meets GNG.  // Timothy :: talk  05:19, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Nominator seems to have misunderstood the article title. It's not parsed as "(China and Russia's) invasion of Ukraine" but "China and (the Russian invasion of Ukraine)". -Ljleppan (talk) 08:21, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment -- How many countries are invading Ukraine? Is my point. "AND" is a conjunction. It should probably be the 'Role of (X-country) in the Russian Invasion of Ukraine' that would be more grammatically correct. CaribDigita (talk) CaribDigita (talk) 00:37, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment - The only country that is invading Ukraine is Russia. By using "Role of China in the Russian Invasion of Ukraine", it suggests that China is playing a *role* and are *directly involved* in the invasion of Ukraine; it is even more misleading than the original title and defeats your main argument. There is nothing Grammatically incorrect or improper about "China and (the Russian invasion of Ukraine)". Vincenty846 (talk) 02:03, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment -- It makes it sound as though Chinese soldiers are on the ground in Ukraine. Which I haven't seen any evidence of? Have you? CaribDigita (talk) 02:07, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment - No, it doesn't. Just because the title "China and (the Russian invasion of Ukraine)" sounds that way to *YOU*, doesn't mean that it is true for others. There is *nothing* in the article that states what you are suggesting (i.e. "Chinese soldiers are on the ground in Ukraine"), because factually it is incorrect and false information; which mind you does not belong on any Wikipedia article.
    You can try and twist the words with your own opinions and ask as many rhetorical questions as you want; but it still doesn't change the fact that "China and (the Russian invasion of Ukraine)" is proper and grammatically correct. Vincenty846 (talk) 03:47, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - It seems like the nominator has misunderstood the title of the article. The nominator’s argument that “No such proof that China has "invaded" Ukraine” is irrelevant to the title and content of the article because the article is about the *reactions and responses* of China to the Russian Invasion of Ukraine. There is nothing in the article that states nor suggests that China has invaded Ukraine with Russia. There is also an article on United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, does that mean that the U.S. is also involved with Russia and invading Ukraine?-Vincenty846(talk) 12:20, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. The article title is being misinterpreted. We also have article titled Anonymous, Collective responsibility in Russia, Iran, Lithuania, Religion, United States, and Wikipedia and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, none of which are implied to have invaded.[29] And there are other variations with “in” or “X-ian involvement in,” “in the Russo-Ukrainian War,” etcetera. If the problem is an inappropriate title, then an RM is appropriate, not an AFD.  —Michael Z. 22:14, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Chief Ministership of Arvind Kejriwal

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Addition of separate articles: First Kejriwal ministry, Second Kejriwal ministry, Third Kejriwal ministry & there no separate articles for other Indian chief ministers. DSP2092talk 16:28, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. - this should be viewed as a PROD (not quite a BLPPROD). Nosebagbear (talk) 17:49, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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James Lafazanos

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reliable source coverage about him and/or noteworthy acting awards. But the only "reference" cited here at all is a Q&A interview in which he's answering questions about himself in the first person on a non-notable blog, which is not a reliable source or a carrier of notability at all. Bearcat (talk) 16:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. If anyone is interested in working on this page in Draft space, contact me or

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List of American children's books

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This list is a mere copy of the related category at the time of its creation in 2015 without the subcategories (including American children's novels and other significant omissions), plus some random books since added. No one since my original suggestion in 2015 has made any attempt to improve the page and it has very few page views. Robina Fox (talk) 15:44, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete hopelessly broad list. Dronebogus (talk) 16:06, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep: This is not an inappropriate topic for a list. It also doesn't have to be "hopelessly broad". It's already limited to a specific country, as
    WP:LISTN. So, have American children's books been discussed as a group by reliable sources? In short, yes. I quickly found an academic article on it, as well as this article. Leonard S. Marcus, who probaby qualifies as a subject-matter expert, wrote Minders of Make-Believe: Idealists, Entrepreneurs, and the Shaping of American Children's Literature. Multicultural and Ethnic Children's Literature in the United States by Donna Gilton is another book on the topic from a subject-matter expert. There is also this article, though I'm not sure of the reliability of that publication. Encyclopedia Britannica has this, but that's a tertiary source; still, it can contribute to the understanding that this is a notable topic and appropriate for a list. This BBC coverage is also an appropriate source for establishing notability. I'm sure more could be found, but the point is made: the topic "American children's books/literature" has received significant coverage as a group from reliable sources, so the list fulfills the relevant notability requirements. I'm not sure, then, what remains as a reason for deletion. The list topic is 1. generally appropriate for Wikipedia and 2. appropriately limited in scope and through selection criteria and 3. notable. Actualcpscm (talk) 17:38, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    In principle this is a fine subject for a list, but as it stands it is hopelessly inadequate and misleading. It gives no information not given in the category: no date, no author, no genre, no setting. It doesn't include, to take a few books at random, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, The Cat in the Hat, The Giver, The Lightning Thief, The Very Hungry Caterpillar, The Secret of the Old Clock, Antiracist Baby. If deletion is not the answer, it should be gutted and started over as a more selective list with actual information on each book and a link to the category in the lead. As it is, it is actually anti-encyclopedic. Robina Fox (talk) 20:07, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not sure that would fulfill the purpose of a list; a list with a higher threshold of entry than notability and with extensive information on each entry would probably be better placed in Children's_literature#United_States, or in a standalone article on that topic, which has been suggested. I don't think that information like author, genre, setting, etc. is appropriate for a list with only notable entries (i.e. easily accessible in-depth information on each entry), but that is better debated on the talk page of the list. I agree that this isn't a particularly helpful list in its current state, but it would be much better to keep it around and improve it. To that end, I wouldn't oppose draftification in principle, but that's really only necessary if the current version of the list is so bad as to be positively damaging to readers' understanding; is that what you mean by anti-encyclopedic? Actualcpscm (talk) 20:14, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. Imagine if someone tried to write an article on American children's literature using the current list as a starting point. An encyclopedia should provide basic significant information. On notability, I'll just say that if your standard is the existence of an article, what function does a list serve that a category does not? I love categories myself – I've made lots of them – but I expect more of a list. Well, I'm not sure this is contributing to the deletion discussion, so I'll leave it there. Robina Fox (talk) 20:53, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Your judgement is more informed than mine on that; draftify for improvement would be an acceptable outcome imo, but it‘s a workable list topic in principle. Actualcpscm (talk) 21:06, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Category:American children's books exist. Should have it done like all the other lists at Category:Lists of children's books, with columns for useful information. Dream Focus 11:00, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete This is absolutely hopelessly broad. The source analysis above misses the point – none of those would be used as sources for this and no one is suggesting the concept of children's literature as a whole is not notable, so if you want to write an article about American children's literature as suggested above be my guest. But that's no reason to have a bullet-pointed list that could have several thousands of items. Category:American children's books has over 5,000 books in its subcategories, and just duplicating (just a small fraction of) that in this way is not the way to go. Existence of a category does not inherently mean an identical list is acceptable, and with a lack of selection criteria or other analysis, this is simply too indiscriminate. What's even more ridiculous is that List of children's books made into feature films has more books than this page! This is just too broad to be workable. The other items in Category:Lists of children's books have much narrower scopes. Reywas92Talk 14:03, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No reason to duplicate the category with a manually updated list; that's a colossal waste of time. Fix the category and its subcategories, and delete this page. Cielquiparle (talk) 14:16, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify for rescoping and improvement; I still think the topic is principally fine, but I see the issues with scope and the state of the article probably warrant removal from the article namespace. I have been convinced! Actualcpscm (talk) 15:02, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Usually draftification is reserved for relatively new articles and lists. This list has existed since 2015. But if you're really interested in working on fixing the list, maybe you should clearly state that. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:33, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/Weak refocus: If we were to list all the titles that qualify, we'd be here all century! There's a reason for the already existing Category:American children's books--or better yet, the "Juvenile" sections at Open Library and WorldCat. However, this might leave the door open for a similarly titled container overview, "Lists of American children's books"--but even that would take a lot more maintenance and commitment. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 12:18, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete If nothing else, this is NOT a list of American Children's Books, but of ACB that have Wikipedia articles. Next, what makes a book "American"? Published in the US? - no, that would include Alice in Wonderland which is republished in the US. Author is American? (Do we always know?) What if author is non-US but illustrator is, or vice-versa? This is a list that cannot be defined usefully and that is truly unlikely to be maintained. This kind of categorization is exactly what the categories are for. I just wish that the categories were publicized more. Lamona (talk) 02:11, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Alice in Wonderland is in category:British children's novels. If the writer is American, then their books are American books. If British then they are British books. Dream Focus 09:47, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to

mention me) 20:18, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Aleksander Aberg (ship)

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Tagged for notability since May. No indications of significant coverage in secondary sources after a basic BEFORE search, only primary sources. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:39, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation and Estonia. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:39, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: As mentioned in the nomination, a search turns up no appropriate sources to establish notability, including under its other names. I don't think a redirect or merge are warranted, since a lack of reliably verifiable information about the history of this vessel makes it unclear where the merge/redirect target would be – the source in the article right now doesn't look particularly good. If someone figures that out in the course of this discussion, I wouldn't be opposed to redirecting to an article about, say, the shipping company that verifiably operated the vessel. Actualcpscm (talk) 17:08, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to
    WP:ATD. I found some passing mentions. Sufficient for a redirect, NOT for keep! gidonb (talk) 19:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Clear consensus Nosebagbear (talk) 17:50, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mickaela Skaric

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Doesn't get a presumption of notability from

WP:SPORTBASIC to have an article. The current sources fall way short. In my searches, including a Chilean search, I found only trivial mentions in El Deportero, Guyana Times and Stabroek News. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 15:33, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nomination. Fails WP:NBAD and WP:GNG. zoglophie 09:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. Bedivere (talk) 18:09, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete per

reliable enough to verify that the topic even really exists in a meaningful sense.‎. Steven Walling • talk 07:03, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Intellectual disability in animals

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The concept of "intellectual disability in animals" does not seem to exist. It is not a topic studied in the context of eg veterinary medicine or biology. There are no reliable sources in the article and no such sources could be found or have been provided. See the section Talk:Intellectual_disability_in_animals#Does_the_concept_of_"intellectual_disability"_exist_in_animals? for further discussion. TempusTacet (talk) 15:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to

List of .hack characters. ✗plicit 14:45, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Atoli

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Like

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Comment Only good source I could find is this but .hack is not that explored when compared to other RPGs in the West so I guess there is not much else to search.Tintor2 (talk) 22:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Impresive scraping of mentions in passing, but fails
List of .hack characters. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:29, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:09, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Evil entities in Christianity

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Appears to be completely

WP:SYNTH. PepperBeast (talk) 14:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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@
WP:SYNTH has a clear definition of "Synthesis of Published Material". I fail to see how "Evil entities in Christianity" satisfies it. Please explain. Peter Brown (talk) 22:46, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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I don't think this is a place for an argument about policy, but the topic of "Evil Entities in Chrisitianity" is the author's synthesis of various Biblical and non-Biblical sources, none of which is actually about "evil entities". PepperBeast (talk) 23:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Evil" should be identified by its Christian definition (or definitions) rather than saying meaninglessly that it "exists." Likewise, "sin" is not defined but is said to exist and to be personified by entities. Evil exists, sin exists, but it is not evident in what sense the entities exist "in Christianity." Are these "entities" metaphorical personifications, according to the Christian imagination, or do Christians believe that they are real?
My first objection to the article is that it does not define any of the terms of its title.
  • It's unclear where these entities are found "in" Christianity. Are we talking about "in" Christian scripture, doctrine, tradition, literature, art, or an article in Christianity Today? Most of the cited material is Biblical, but an extra-biblical back-story stands behind the interpretation, such as what is proposed by Seventh-Day Adventist writers, for example. The article doesn't say. What is clear is that if you can find Christianity, you will find these characters there.
That is my second objection. It is not written like an encyclopedia article but like notes from a visit to a nature park called "Christianity," which is populated with this and that sort of creature. The Satan exhibit is especially interesting
  • In fact, the guide is so fascinated by the devil that whatever other entity is met on the tour, there's really only one highlight, and that's the Devil in Christianity.
This is my third objection. It is nothing more than an expansion of Devil in Christianity, which has many of the same problems. But assuming that article should be kept, this article does not substantively expand on that topic and, therefore, should be deleted because it is redundant.
However, I really like the artwork that has been collected in this and the related articles. — Mark (Mkmcconn) ** 00:22, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As the creator of this article I fully see and agree with these points, and I wish for it do be deleted as well.
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  • Delete per the discussion above, especially the article's creator's concurrence to deletion.
--A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 05:25, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or move to userspace if the author prefers. There is very little here that wouldn't work better in Devil in Christianity or Christian demonology. 'Allegorical representations of evil in Christian texts' could be another topic but it would need sources addressing the topic as a whole and not just a synthesis of examples to be viable as a separate article. Eluchil404 (talk) 01:45, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:07, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Lawson Lunde

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Non-notable: out of the sources in the article, neither can contribute to passing

WP:NBIO. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 13:54, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:06, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vik Edwin Stoll

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Failed judicial nominee that does not pass

WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:06, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas L. Halkowski

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Failed judicial nominee that does not meet

WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 13:33, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 13:07, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on the Battlefield for My Lord

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Non-notable song from a non notable album. This hymm got no hits to significant coverage in reliable sources during my

WP:NSONG. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 13:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 13:09, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Nir Poraz

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Tragic death, but Poraz is not notable. Any relevant and properly sourced information can be included in Abduction and killing of Nachshon Wachsman, where I have added an image of him in the "Search and rescue" section. Mooonswimmer 12:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Topics like this are typically required to meet

may not be the right place for. Nobody has made a substantive argument that the coverage here passes that standard, and I'll note in passing that NY Post is a deprecated sources. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:18, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Death of Madison Brooks

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fails

WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 11:25, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Keep subject is notable and has sufficient sources, full disclosure, I am the creator of this article. Eric Carpenter (talk) 22:03, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 12:16, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 13:08, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Natalia Montiel

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References provided fail to establish

WP:SIGCOV can be found. An Argentine source search yields nothing better than what we already have and nor do Google searches. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nomination. Fails WP:NBAD and WP:GNG. zoglophie 09:49, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 10:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Goddy Nnadi

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All positions that looks political are for the Rotary Club. Available coverages are press releases. Best, Reading Beans (talk) 10:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Eternal Champion. Discussion and analysis of the sources supports the conclusion that there is insufficient coverage of Erekosë qua Erekosë to justify a standalone article. signed, Rosguill talk 02:20, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Erekosë

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Non-notable book character. This appears to be an article fit for Fandom, not Wikipedia. The previous AfD (from 2018) yielded a few book sources but to me this does not appear sufficient for

WP:GNG, as they focus on the books rather than the character. All references in the article are to the book series the character appears in. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:01, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • @
    Czar: Analysis specific to Erekosë has been found as discussed below. Daranios (talk) 10:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Spartaz Humbug! 07:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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So Scroggins (2015) mentions the subject throughout. He says, in the introduction,

“he cleverly interwove the otherwise disparate worlds and quests of a whole stable of heroes: Urlik, Erekosë (the Eternal Champion), Corum Jhaelen ...

That is Erekosë is identified up front with the Eternal Champion, although it clearly is more involved than that. Yet the nuance is about plot. What the author does not do is to look at Erekosë and discuss the character as a concept, discussing development, design, reception, significane or influence. Rather it is the concept of the Eternal Champion that gains such treatment. Mentions of Erekosë in this work are all about the specific plot element. An example:

“John Daker has not merely gone to bed John Daker and awoken Erekosë, but—as The Eternal Champion’s sequel Phoenix in Obsidian will demonstrate more explicitly—has awoken to his own destiny as the self-conscious embodiment of the Eternal Champion, the occupier of that subject-position who is able to recall his own previous incarnations, and to feel the weight of the endless battles he is constantly reborn to fight.”

So here Erekosë, along with John Daker, is the name of the character, and the concept being discussed is the Eternal Champion.
What then of (Hoey, 2000)? Hoey's abstract begins:

Michael Moorcock’s The Eternal Champion (1970) has a simple enough plot. Humans on a parallel Earth call to their aid an eternal champion, Erekosë, to help them rid the world of the Evil Ones, the Eldren

The title of the paper is indicative of the content. The paper is discussing the writing of Moorcock, using the concept and sequence of the Eternal Champion as its source material. That Erekosë is the name of the champion is incidental to the thesis of the paper, and, indeed the context of the chosen source material. Per czar, there is no analysis of the specific character of Erekosë here. The mentions are again specifically about plot.
So on this source analysis, I think we are left with nothing. A redirect to Eternal Champion would clearly be sensible, but I see nothing to indicate a keep. Before posting that as a !vote, I would ask if there are any other sources we should be considering, as Jclemens inidicated the posted sources were not exhaustive. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:40, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sirfurboy: From the pages I can see in Google Books I agree with the analysis on the book. From the two first pages I can see of the paper I have to disagree: Both the title and the content do not refer to Moorcock's concept of the Eternal Champion, but rather the specific novel The Eternal Champion and its main character. The paper acknowledges that Erekosë is one incarnation of the Eternal Champion, but that's it. Everything else is specific to the Erekosë from that one book. Like him being a metaphor for the nuclear apocalypse. Daranios (talk) 19:05, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(Hoey, 2000) is a chapter in Imagining Apocalypse, which you can borrow from Open Library here: [34]. It is at page 151. The abstract just reproduces the start of the chapter and the chapter itself is definitely a study of Moorcock's writing technique using a large data corpus to analyse linguistics. On that score I stand by what I said, that the paper is not about Erekosë. It is about Moorcock's writing technique. However, on page 152, we read:

My interest in this book, however, lies elsewhere, namely in how Moorcock succeeds in portraying a hero who is unremittingly destructive and commits two great acts of genocide and yet does not turn into a villain.

And herein lies a small amount of analysis that is also mirrored in your Black Gate source. Because the reason that Hoey is looking at this book is because, in the character of Erekosë, there is an incarnation of the eternal champion who commits two genocides and yet is not treated as evil. As you say, it is this incarnation that interests Hoey. He is interested in how this is carried off linguistically, but it is relevant to the thesis that Erekosë has done something we would generally be inclined to disapprove of (genocide of the human race). The character's actions are important to his choice of subject material in conducting the analysis. So, to run this through GNG, we have here and below two reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. The question is whether they reach the threshold of significance. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. so Hoey is relevant. Yet we are still left with the question as to whether we can write an article that discusses the development, design, reception, significance, and influence of works in addition to concise summaries of those works. These sources are not really enough for that. We have a character and any page on the character is going to be almost all plot, even with these sources. Almost, but not entirely. I expect that Erekosë would better be dealt with on the page of the Eternal Champion, which, as you say, is in poor shape. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:08, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sirfurboy: In general I agree. One additional piece of analysis rather than plot summary in Hoey is the embodiment of real-world contemporary fears of a nuclear apocalypse in the universal destroyer Erekosë with his radioactive sword. I expect all analysis taken together might be enough to produce an article on Erekosë beyond stub-length (as usual balanced by a reasonable amount of plot summary + publication history). I am unsure if that would be better treated wholly within the Eternal Champion article or not, so I will refrain from !voting here and let others decide. Daranios (talk) 11:08, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, my lack of !vote up to this point also reflects my own uncertainty. I think my preferred outcome is a redirect with Eternal Champion. I think that places the information we have within a context it can be encyclopaedically discussed. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:37, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Clearly not being deleted but feel arguments to keep on the award are probably going to need a guideline level discussion before they become authoritative given that we do seem to delete quite a lot of the winners.

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Zara Zarib

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Unremarkable former child actor who's only claim seems to be winning a child actor award aged 12. No evidence of further film participation or notability from existing credit. Fails

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Comment. I think the question should be asked as follows: does
WP:ANYBIO's criteria? I'm not sure. Deckkohl (talk) 14:51, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • KEEP: My thinking is that if an award is notable, then those receiving the award are notable. Particularly in the arts where future contributions from the subject seem likely. CaseArmitage (talk) 14:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I would suggest that every category from the most important film award in any country with a "llywood-type" film industry would go toward the criteria. I can't really see how picking and choosing which countries or which awards from the most prominent awards in a country would be NPOV on Wikipedia's part. (Are choreographers more or less notable than sound designers, is Nollywood more or less notable than Dhallywood, for example...). The only possible criteria I can imagine would be how many years the award has been given, but this one would surpass any reasonable cutoff at 40+years. —siroχo 07:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge‎ to Roman Catholic Diocese of Middlesbrough. The claim to standalone notability has not had much support, and a valid ATD has been proposed and not contested. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nicholas Postgate Catholic Academy Trust

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Fails

WP:SIGCOV. C&P move from draftspace. Kleuske (talk) 15:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply
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please identify if it is not suitable to be an article, I believe it is suitable U15627r473 (talk) 16:01, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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  • This should just be a list page instead of an article I think. Sources are not really enough to support the article but maintaining just the straight list could still be helpful. - Indefensible (talk) 01:38, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge to Roman Catholic Diocese of Middlesbrough as a new L2 Schools section, per [35]. Ironically the diocese navbox currently has better coverage of its schools than the diocese article. A Schools section could also be expanded (or tagged for expansion) to cover St Cuthbert's Roman Catholic Academy Trust and Ampleforth College as well. As an encyclopedia we need some coverage of the system of which the various individual schools are a part, but per NORG that is probably better handled at the diocese level than the trust level since there isn't much information we can provide about the trust as such. -- Visviva (talk) 01:36, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:41, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Othman Al-Othman

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Fails

WP:BIO, with all sources online and in the article being either statistics or routine coverage. JML1148 (talk | contribs) 06:34, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:41, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perry Stone (radio personality)

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This seems to be a

WP:BLP1E - shock jock known for one shock incident. BD2412 T 06:10, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 05:40, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pamela Smith Hudson

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Graduating from college and having a few exhibitions is insufficient to establish notability for an artist. BD2412 T 06:01, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 04:46, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Acorn, Santa Barbara County, California

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No evidence found that this location is or has ever been notable. The article's only citation is to the USGS GNIS verifying that there was once a site with this name. The only other verification I could find was old topographic maps (most recent from 1947) showing the site with that name, absolutely nothing else since then. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 04:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: At these coordinates, Google Earth and Google Street View show just a compound at 901 Floradale Avenue belonging to Launchpad Land, apparently an agribusiness. Lots of agricultural equipment and some living facilities for migrant field workers (that's from the sign at the gate). There are several more buildings scattered along a mile of Floradale Avenue. Other than that, it's just 100s of acres/hectares of crops. It's about a mile west of Lompoc, California. My ref check came up empty.
If there's something of historical interest that would make this place notable, ping me.
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  • Delete I found one newspaper reference to Acorn being a place, and that articles makes it sound like the site of an agricultural plant, not a community. Likely yet another of the mistaken GNIS "populated place" entries. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 03:32, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This appears to be a named place but not a notable community. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 23:19, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 04:44, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sophia Smith (footballer, born 1978)

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Non-notable Greek/American soccer player. A bit difficult to search for as she is overshadowed by the 2000-born USA player. Natg 19 (talk) 04:12, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Emma McCagg

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Subject fails

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gordon Bell Pianos

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Tagged for notability or a year - Altenmann >talk 03:41, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎

Moderator Mayhem

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The articles were all put out near the day of the release. They are at the very least press releases and raise doubt on their

sponsored/pay to play nature. This browser game does not seem to be notable for anything in particular and the coverage died down right after its release. Kate the mochii (talk) 03:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge‎ to TurboDuo#Marketing. Liz Read! Talk! 04:43, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Turbo

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This is a subject that on the surface would feel like there's a lot of discussion because of how outlandish and honestly petty it was, but in actuality doesn't. After Polygon Man was a surprise in terms of reception I figured I may be wrong and look through sources for Johnny Turbo. However:

  • A Internet Archive search turned up nothing outside of a few small statements in two issues of Retro Gamer that are more in passing.
  • A google books search also turned up nothing. The one source that mentions him properly is discussing the GameSpy article already cited.
  • Google News, same boat. The one article that seems to be discussing them, Nintendo Life, instead links to a youtube video we can't cite as a source.
  • Google Scholar to boot.

Similar outcomes when trying to do web crawls through Kotaku, Polygon, Siliconera, Destructoid, GamesRadar, etc. There's no discussion about this character. The whole point of this extensive

WP:BEFORE is to show that despite belief that due to its notoriety as a bad campaign, it's not notable as a subject on its own. Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:24, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Merge to TurboDuo's marketing section, per other commenters. Pokelego999 (talk) 22:13, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge because we HAVE to preserve this ludicrous information. Dronebogus (talk) 12:29, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Slam (magazine). Liz Read! Talk! 04:42, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TD Daily

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The magazine was the football spinoff of Slam (magazine) but only released one issue more than a decade ago. Instead of deleting, I propose redirecting the article. -- ZooBlazertalk 01:43, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:10, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Air (2007 film)

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I am not able to find any reliable sources or reviews for this film, other than profiles. Upper Deck Guy (talk) 02:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I think weak keep given the language divide here. It looks like this film did not get much exposure in English-speaking markets, but has just enough coverage in English to soothe my doubts, plus a very reasonable cast list. —siroχo 04:26, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I am unconvinced that Asian Movie Web is a clear-cut
    WP:USEBYOTHERS in Google Books, i.e., 1, 2, 3 from obviously RS books, and a few others, but I'm unsure whether it is widespread and consistent per the guideline. Likewise, movieXclusive has no clear staff page or detailed editorial policies, and USEBYOTHERS is even weaker (based on Google/Google Books at least). Otherwise I'm unable to find sufficient sources and will probably vote weak delete later, but I'm aware of the language barrier here and might take another look again at TWL and Baidu to find sources if I have energy for that.I had another look and was unable to find sufficient sources, and remain unconvinced on the reliability of existing reviews. However, I am not proficient at Chinese or Cantonese and had to rely heavily on the unreliable Google Translate, so on the balance this is a Weak Delete . Siroxo and Mushy Yank, if you find more sources please ping me. Thanks. VickKiang (talk) 10:45, 13 July 2023 (UTC) Updated on 22:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. The film already has an article in the Chinese wiki. The film released during the age when film reviews were online yet no reliable reviews found. DareshMohan (talk) 18:06, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak keep per Siroxo. Regarding the arguments above: (1) I don't think there is a policy basis for AFD to require clear-cut reliable sources, in the sense of addressing every possible concern. Adjudicating the fine points of reliability is not something the AFD process is really suited for; we have a whole
    balance of considerations weighs in favor of retention here. -- Visviva (talk) 02:44, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. The default here is that we keep things if they meet
    WP:AFD. CT55555(talk) 02:09, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent
    reliable sources
    .
    1. Lin, Xinruo 林欣若 (2006-09-26). "曾志偉兒子 「鬼計」嚇人" [Eric Tsang's son's "Dead Air" is scary]. United Daily News (in Chinese). p. D5.

      The article notes: "由陳德森監製、李伯達執導的新片「鬼計」昨天在香港開鏡，參與演出的演員包括曾志偉的兒子曾國祥、尹子維、谷祖琳也參加開鏡儀式，陳德森解釋，雖然片名是「鬼計」，但其實是一部驚悚懸疑片。... 「鬼計」雖然昨天開鏡，其實早已拍攝四天 ... 在「鬼計」裡，曾國祥飾演靈異節目的導演，因為收視跌到谷底，被尹子維飾演的監製譏笑，為了突破收視率，曾國祥找來自殺未遂人士上節目表演各種自殺方法，雖然收視告捷，卻引來更多危機。「鬼計」的劇本很有創意，光是構思自殺方式，就讓編劇想破頭，還得忙著四處蒐集資料。"

      From Google Translate: "Produced by Teddy Chan and directed by Xavier Lee, the new film Dead Air opened shooting in Hong Kong yesterday. The actors involved in the performance include Eric Tsang's son Derek Tsang, Terence Yin, and Jo Kuk who also participated in the opening ceremony. Teddy Chan explained that although the title of the film is "Dead Air", it is actually a thriller and suspense film. ... Although Dead Air started filming yesterday, it has already been filmed for four days... In Dead Air, Derek Tsang plays the director of a supernatural show. Because the ratings fell to the bottom, he was ridiculed by the producer played by Terence Yin. In order to break through the ratings, Derek Tsang recruited suicide attempters to perform various suicide methods on the show. Although the ratings were successful, it caused more crises. The script of "Dead Air" is very creative. Just thinking about the method of suicide made the screenwriter want to break his head, and he was busy collecting information everywhere."

    2. "曾國祥首次擔正感壓力" [Derek Tsang feels the pressure for the first time]. Macao Daily News (in Chinese). 2006-09-27. p. D3.

      The article notes: "由陳德森導演的電影《鬼計》昨舉行開鏡拜神儀式,出席演員包括曾國祥、黎耀祥、谷祖琳、黃浩 然、謝雪心及尹子維等,影片將在衛視電影台獨家首播。 曾國祥在片中飾演一名電視台導演,由於這是他首次擔正演出,加上稍後還要拍劉國昌執導的 ..."

      From Google Translate: "The film Dead Air directed by Xavier Lee held a shooting worship ceremony yesterday, attended by actors including Zeng Guoxiang, Li Yaoxiang, Gu Zulin, Huang Hao Ran, Xie Xuexin and Yin Ziwei, etc., the film will exclusively premiere on Satellite TV Movie Channel. Zeng Guoxiang played the role of a TV director in the film, because this is his first performance, and he will be filming the film directed by Liu Guochang later."

    3. "曾國祥幫女鬼接生嚇破膽" [Derek Tsang was scared out of his wits when he helped a female ghost deliver her baby]. Ta Kung Pao (in Chinese). 2006-09-26. p. C1.

      The article notes: "另外,唐寧在片中首次扮演大肚女鬼,更要駁長發演出。甚少拍鬼片的她,雖然相信世界上有鬼但卻不會太驚,相信不刻意去想及拜過神便沒問題,而且媽咪也會為她祈禱。幸而故事環繞在電視台發生,不用去偏僻恐怖地方拍攝。而她雖聽過電視台不少怪異事,卻從未遇過怪事。至於拍鬼片經驗較多的谷祖琳,今次乃飾演電視台監製,是女版俞琤,故沒有感情線。"

      From Google Translate: "In addition, Tang Ning played the female ghost with a belly for the first time in the film, and she even had to cut her long hair. She seldom makes ghost films, although she believes that there are ghosts in the world, she will not be too shocked. She believes that it will be fine if she does not deliberately think about it and worship God, and her mother will pray for her. Fortunately, the story revolves around the TV station, and there is no need to go to remote and scary places to shoot. And although she has heard many weird things on TV, she has never encountered any strange things. As for Gu Zulin, who has more experience in making ghost films, this time she plays the role of a TV station producer. She is the female version of Yu Teng, so there is no emotional line."

    4. Cheung, Wing-zi 張穎芝 (2006-09-26). "唐寧首次演女鬼恐怖血腥" [Leila Tong's first horror and bloody female ghost role]. Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). p. D2.

      The article notes: "唐寧在戲中飾演大肚女鬼,首次擔演女鬼的她,駁了一頭長發配合角色。 ... 唐寧日前在郊區拍攝被殺後,曾國祥為她接生的一幕戲,場面很恐怖血腥,其餘大部分場景則在電影台內拍攝 ... 首次擔正的曾國祥日前在郊外拍攝,大髀內側慘被蚊狂叮 ..."

      From Google Translate: "Tang Ning played the female ghost with a big belly in the play. It was her first time to play the role of a female ghost, and she parted her long hair to match the role. ... A few days ago, Tang Ning filmed the scene where Zeng Guoxiang delivered her baby after she was killed in the suburbs. The scene was horrific and bloody. Most of the other scenes were filmed in the movie station. ... Zeng Guoxiang, who took the lead for the first time, was filming in the suburbs a few days ago, and the inside of his big thigh was bitten by mosquitoes."

    5. "唐寧生仔血淋淋" [Leila Tong gave birth to a bloody baby]. Apple Daily (in Chinese). 2006-09-26. p. C13.

      The article notes: "唐寧、谷祖琳、曾國祥及尹子維等昨日齊到清水灣,參與新片《鬼計》開鏡拜神儀式。唐寧飾演腹 大便便的女鬼,日前還拍攝一場血淋淋的生仔戲份,"

      From Google Translate: "Tang Ning, Gu Zulin, Zeng Guoxiang and Yin Ziwei all came to Clear Water Bay yesterday to participate in the opening ceremony of the new film "Dead Air". Tang Ning played the female ghost with a belly poop, and she also filmed a bloody birth scene a few days ago,"

    6. "唐寧拍鬼片阿媽代祈禱" [Leila Tong's acts in ghost film, her mother prays for her]. Oriental Daily News (in Chinese). 2006-09-26. p. C12.

      The article notes: "飾演女鬼的唐寧透露,該片已拍攝了多天,她謂第一場拍攝的戲份便是由曾國祥替她接生BB"

      From Google Translate: "Tang Ning, who played the female ghost for the first time, revealed that the film has been filming for several days. She said that Zeng Guoxiang delivered her baby in the first filming scene BB"

    7. "唐寧媽祈禱保佑女兒拍片平安" [Leila Tong's mother prayed to bless her daughter's filming safety]. am730 (in Chinese). 2006-09-26. p. M31.

      The article notes: "戲中唐寧與曾國祥有一段感情戲,而唐寧更首次要駁長發扮演女鬼,自言甚少拍鬼片的她相信世界上是有鬼的,記者問她是否害怕拍這類型的戲時,她答道:「《鬼計》故事主要描述電視台發生的怪事,我喺電視台就冇遇過鬼怪事,不過聽聞過好多怪異事件,我相信唔刻意去諗,同埋拜過神會無問題嘅,而且媽咪都會幫我祈禱,所以都唔會太驚嘅。 」"

      From Google Translate: "In the film, Tang Ning and Zeng Guoxiang had a relationship scene, and Tang Ning even refuted long-haired female ghost for the first time. She said that she seldom made ghost films and believed that there are ghosts in the world. When the reporter asked her if she was afraid of filming this type of scene , she replied: "The story of "Dead Air" mainly describes the strange things that happened on the TV station. I have never encountered ghosts and strange things on the TV station, but I have heard of many strange things. Yes, and Mommy will help me pray, so I won’t be too surprised.”"

    There is sufficient coverage in
    reliable sources to allow Dead Air (traditional Chinese: 鬼計; simplified Chinese: 鬼计) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

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The result was keep‎.

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Bass management

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This is a how-to guide that seems more appropriate for a project like Wikiversity. However, how-to guides on home theaters seem like they might be off-topic for that project, too, so I'm bringing it up for discussion to see if there's a better home for this. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:55, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I think there may be a misunderstanding about the content of this article. Granted, it could do with some improvement, but it is not a how-to guide; it describes how bass management is implemented, often (but by no means always) in A/V receivers. This is about the design of the digital signal processing functions, and (in my opinion) is suitable for Wikipedia. If it would help I can volunteer to try and improve it (but not if it's about to be deleted). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tawny Brown Frowny Owl (talk • contribs) 08:02, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. The article has many issues, with the scope mirroring Audio crossover and the content mostly consisting of WP:HOWTO, but the subject of bass reproduction in multichannel audio systems is notable with sufficient coverage existing in Google Scholar. PaulT2022 (talk) 21:20, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 04:30, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Bottaro

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Article I created in 2008 before I understood that the presumption of notability in NFOOTBALL ultimately required compliance with

WP:GNG. Jogurney (talk) 00:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge‎ to Narada Productions. Liz Read! Talk! 04:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Flamenco: Fire and Grace

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Fails GNG and NALBUM. Only source is associated with label. Answers.com 'source' is inexplicable, really. Not a notable compilation. ‡ El cid, el campeador talk 20:08, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Found an AllMusic review, but nothing else that wasn't ads or brief mentions. And with nothing else, I say redirect to Narada Productions, though it might be worth a section on that page since it's also quite bare bones. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 21:16, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm willing to support an explicit merge vote as well, though given how few participants are here I do worry it might not get done in a timely manner. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:22, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Bill Goldberg. Liz Read! Talk! 04:28, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Automaniac

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Fails

WP:NTV. No SIGCOV, only a few passing mentions. 〜 Festucalex • talk 05:59, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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