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Previous signatures: Destroyeraa (talk), Destroyeraa, Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs)

Current signature: ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 20:32, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks!

I made some minor edits and clarifications on Tropical Storm Bertha. Thank you for welcoming me to the WikiProject! β€”Β Preceding unsigned comment added by NOOBSKINSPAMMER (talk β€’ contribs) 14:41, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at
Tropical Storm Amanda (2020)
(June 1)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was: Β The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
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@Robert McClenon: Thanks for your tips! Destroyeraa (talk) 01:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

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June 2020

cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution
. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is

"Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. πŸ” Chicdat ChickenDatabase
13:54, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Chicdat: Can you please delete the draft article? Thanks, Destroyeraa (talk) 13:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
No. I'm not an admin. πŸ” Chicdat ChickenDatabase 16:14, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
@Chicdat:Hurricanehink deleted the redirect, I believe. He moved the draft to the main article space. Thanks anyway for your help. I kinda got a bit impatient and wanted the draft to become an article so badly that I disregarded Wikipedia rules. Sorry. Destroyeraa (talk) 17:00, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing and such

Hi there Destroyeraa, I've seen your edits lately, and I can tell you have a passion for tropical cyclones. I was wondering if you needed any help with editing, learning the ropes, how to make a good article, anything like that. Hopefully you're having fun editingΒ :) Yea, there are a lot of rules, but you'll get the hang of things eventually (if you haven't already!) β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 13:35, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Thanks. Yes, I have fun editing, and time editing, especially during this pandemic. I appreciate your offer to help newish editors like me. If I have anything to ask you about, I will post it on your talk page. Destroyeraa 01:44, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Yea, I've noticed a lot more editors these days! We can always use the help organizing all of the info about TCs. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 13:42, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstar! I was curious, what aspect of tropical cyclones are you interested in? Any particular basin or time period? β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 15:05, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm interested in mainly Atlantic tropical cyclones, since I, like you, live on the Eastern coast of the United States. Destroyeraa 18:03, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Good thing the Atlantic has over 800 articles. There are tons of older storms that need work, and a handful in the past few years. Are you interested in improving articles to good article status? That's the goal for most articles, covering the important details of the storm and writing it out well. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 19:39, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink:Sure, which articles are stubs or starts and need improving? Can you post some links on my talk page? Destroyeraa 19:48, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Nothing Personal

I just want to be friends destroyeraa IvanGamezz (talk) 15:06, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

@IvanGamezz: I have left a few links on your talk page.


Tagging of
Draft:Tropical Depression One-E (2020)

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on

speedy deletion criteriaΒ  because This seems to be a reasonable initial edit towards a possibly valid article , which is what drafts are for. If you wish, you may try using the simple proposed deletion (PROD) process, or the full articles for deletion (AfD) process, instead. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs
16:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@
WP:NOTABLE. The article needs to be deleted. Destroyeraa (talk
) 17:04, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Lack of notability is not a valid ground for deletion of a draft, nor for the speedy deletion of any page. Please read or re-read
speedy deletion criteria are to be construed quite strictly. That policy page says: Administrators should take care not to speedily delete pages or media except in the most obvious cases. ... Before nominating a page for speedy deletion, consider whether it could be improved, reduced to a stub, merged or redirected elsewhere, reverted to a better previous revision, or handled in some other way (see Wikipedia:Deletion policy Β§ Alternatives to deletion). DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs
17:21, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

41st edition of The Hurricane Herald

Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Newsletter/Archive 41

Thanks! Destroyeraa 01:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Re: Drafts

Hi there, regarding the drafts. Draft space doesn't really count for much, but I don't think any of them will become an article. It would be like if someone had a sandbox for each of those articles. You could always propose to redirect them to the season article, if they're a concern. Regarding the last one, what you wrote is a brief summary of what is already located at

Hurricane
redirects to the TC article, which covers, in great detail and with fantastic sourcing, all of the components of a tropical cyclone, the scales, etc. So your proposed draft wouldn't add anything new to an already featured article.

Are you perhaps looking for a project you can work on, that you know your edits will be valuable and not redirected/deleted? β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 15:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

No, I don't think any of those drafts could become articles, including Dolly. Anything that would have two paragraphs of info can fit fine in the season section. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 00:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Do you need any suggestions for a topic you can work on? Might I suggest something like List of Puerto Rico hurricanes or List of Category 1 Atlantic hurricanes. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 20:10, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

The problem with List of C1 Atlantic hurricanes is that you didn't include any examples. Check out other list articles, like List of Category 3 Atlantic hurricanes. There are a lot of storms to add. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 13:50, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: I'm a bit busy right now this week - I'll start cracking at it during the weekend. Destroyeraa 21:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Destroyeraa, it's hard to do huge articles by yourself, and if you're determined to finish

User:Destroyeraa/Category 1. Thanks, πŸ” Chicdat ChickenDatabase
10:05, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey there Destroyeraa, do you need help getting your

sandbox started? β™« Hurricanehink (talk
) 18:30, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey there, I've been adding a few storms to the article for C1 Atlantic canes. I think it could be a good collaboration, especially among newer users who are learning the ropes. Would you be interested in participating in a collaboration with other users to help finish the article? β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 14:14, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Sure! Thanks for the offer. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 14:17, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Awesome! Please reach out to other users who you think might be interested. I added in back to Alex in 2016, and the article has up to 1935, so that's 80 more years to add. It's a lot of work (just ask anyone who's done one of these), so any extra people helping out will make it go a lot faster. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 15:09, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: I'm really busy this weekend, that's why I'm on a mobile device. I'll get to work on the article probably sometime next week. Also, the track cone for Isaias puts New Jersey near the western part of it, and forecasts are looking ominous right now. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 16:29, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Take your time, Wikipedia doesn't write itself, and it doesn't happen overnight. Isaias isn't gonna be bad for the northeast. I just hope there aren't swimmers out in a TS (like during Fay). β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 21:38, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

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Happy editing! Destroyeraa 21:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Fay

Regarding this edit, how come you removed the content from the preparations section? β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 13:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: So sorry Hink, I didn't realize that I had removed content. I immediately went to sleep after that edit, so I forgot to check. Destroyeraa 14:17, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
It's alright, I figured it was an accident. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 14:22, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

So for Fay, I saw you're editing it now, I am too; I didn't realize that. Anyway, I saw you added the flash flood watch for New England, but that wasn't in the source that was in the preps section. So if you want to add info, make sure you include the reference, like you did for that tweet about Fay's origins. I removed the reference to Edouard, because it doesn't appear to be related to Fay. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 15:23, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: There really isn't much news on Fay's impacts right now, but I see people posting videos of street flooding in NJ and Delaware on Twitter. Should I include that?

Anyway, the winds for Fay are really picking up. According to the NHC, Fay's winds have increased to 60 miles per hour (97Β km/h). Starting to look like Sandy a bit in this picture. Destroyeraa 16:38, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

There is already flooding going on in Delaware and New jersey. Look for road and beach closures, that's how I found the beach closure in Delaware. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 20:11, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Scuttling of the German fleet at Scapa Flow

Hi there. I see you restoring links to

WP:OVERLINK we don't do that. Quite apart from the recommendation in MoS not to link countries, you should ask yourself who the link is likely to benefit. Anyone reading the article who is curious to find out more about the country where it took place is only one click away from a link to it, either via the Scapa Flow article or the Orkney one, and adding loads of low-value links like this one makes it harder for people to find ones which will be more useful. I hope that makes sense. --84.64.249.140 (talk
) 12:58, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Here is the replacement typhoon names.

You can see this information on 6th paragraph in this report. http://www.typhooncommittee.org/52nd/docs/final/2nd%20VCTC52Report_FINAL.pdf

Aftermath of Hurricane Hanna

Dude just because you don’t want an aftermath does not mean it’s not happening. It’s only been 2 days since Hanna and the recovery is ongoing and there was much more information to be put in. Stop removing the aftermath section. People need to know what’s going on when they read that page not what you think is going on. I ask you to consider this. ~ Sincerely, Super

talk
) 16:06, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@
Robloxsupersuperhappyface: An aftermath section is not justified. JUst adding a few sentences does not justify a whole section. Hurricane Dorian has an aftermath section because there are paragraphs of information and many sources and it was a Category 5 hurricane. Hanna didn't caused unknown damage, only killed one person, and, to be honest, was just like Barry 2019 (Barry didn't have an aftermath section ICYMI). The information that you put in the aftermath section can fit in the impacts section. Thanks. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs
) 16:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

But Barry is different than Hanna. Hanna had a huge storm surge and caused devastating flash flooding so it may take weeks to asses damage but the recovery is still ongoing. Barry is way less destructive than Hanna.

talk
) 17:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@
Robloxsupersuperhappyface: First, I want to thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. You have been contributing a lot on the subject of tropical cyclones, so I recommend you join WikiProject Tropical cyclones
.

For Hanna, I think we can consider adding the aftermath section on the talk page of Hanna. More information in the coming days may justify the addition of that section, but please ask for the consensus after you have stated your points. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 18:29, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks for understanding and I’ll keep watching the news here in Corpus since I got hit by Hanna. Thanks

talk
) 19:11, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm so sorry to hear that you have been hit by
Robloxsupersuperhappyface. I hope you and your family recover quickly from the storm. Stay safe! ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs
) 19:15, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

We already got power and there was barely any damage most of the damage was way out there on the beach

talk
) 21:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Robloxsupersuperhappyface, I'm happy to hear that. Looking at photos and videos on the web, damage looks pretty severe near the beach areas south of Corpus Christi. Although I live by the ocean (New Jersey), I am lucky to have missed Hurricane Sandy when it ravaged NJ and surrounding areas. However, a few weeks ago, we were hit by TS Fay, but that only brought around a foot of flooding. Stay safe.~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs
) 13:22, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Your signature

I'm not quite sure what is wrong with it, but when you nominated Hurricane Isaias at ITN, your signature broke the page. I removed the <small> tags, but as you can see, your signature is incomplete (unrelated to the size of the text); I suspect in the code for it something around the 'contribs' is wrong. Kingsif (talk) 01:44, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Official name nothing

The Bahamas is officially "Commonwealth of the Bahamas". And the United States is called "The United States of America". Headers are supposed to be concise; with no other Bahamas to set apart, "the" is just more wordiness. But we can do things your way, too. Your username suggests opposing you might be foolish, after all! InedibleHulk (talk) 20:36, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@InedibleHulk: Ok. If I'm doing something wrong, don't hesitate to oppose me. I won't destroy you. LOL. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 20:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
In that case, nice to meet you! You didn't do anything wrong enough to warrant the old Irish whip, big boot and legdrop, rest assured. Just pulled you over to let you know, you know? It's a small problem, but if we let everyone do it, it would be bedlam out there. Most things sound more natural with an a, uh, um or the in front. But the natural way is crazy, that's why Wikipedia came up with policy-based guidelines in the Old Days. So yeah, you're free to go, brother, drive safely (there've been reports of a hurricane coming through)! InedibleHulk (talk) 21:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Why'd you destroy my contribution to ITN/C at 22:56 UTC? It broke no rule, and didn't involve you. I can't copy and paste it back, so I suggest you do or I'll be forced to play the bad cop. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:20, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

That's for deleting other people's comments without apparent reason. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:32, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
@InedibleHulk: I'm sorry for deleting your comment. It was probably because of edit conflicts. There were a lot of editors editing the same section at the same time, and I think something wrong happened. I'm really sorry for not getting back to you. Thanks for trouting me πŸ˜ƒ! ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 23:39, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

That one's for trying to feign ignorance and blame society. I have you on record as saying "Rm.", slang on the street for what the kids call "explicitly rubbing one out". But since you seem to like trout, I guess you have me over a barrel, with no choice but to release you on your own recognizance. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:54, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
@InedibleHulk: Oh yeah. I'm sorry, I didn't remember that because that was several days ago. Now I remember the reason why I rm your comment. It was because it was largely off-topic and made no sense. The discussion was about Hurricane Isaias, not about mass killings and off-topic jokes/easter eggs. I was about to rm The Rambling Man's comments about Trump and Trump ticking, because that was entirely off-topic, but due to edit conflicts, I never got to. In discussions, try to keep your comments on-topic. Should've told you before I removed it. Sorry about that, and you can trout me again because I love fish. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 00:10, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Yummy! ~ Destroyeraa (talk
Alright, bub, that's it! Three strikes constitutes animal cruelty. Take him away, tides! InedibleHulk (talk) 00:52, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
@InedibleHulk: LOL! Glad we're making jokes again! Yep, I'm full - that's enough trout for the day. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 01:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Storm related fatalities

Hey Destroyeraa, I'm not sure if you're a mod in the hurricane section or not but you seem more experienced here so I thought I ask you. Regarding "Storm related fatalities", do deaths that occur while people are cleaning up after a storm is completely gone count as "storm related"? For example if a guy gets electrocuted while cleaning up his yard a day or two after a storm is passed do you count that in the total death count for that storm/hurricane? If you're not a mod do you happen to know who is so I can ask them? Thanks in advance. 24.46.147.193 (talk) 01:52, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@24.46.147.193: Hello there! See your talk page for the explanation. Stay safe. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 01:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

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August 2020

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 2021 in British television; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Adam9007 (talk) 00:53, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

@Adam9007: Resolved!πŸ˜ƒ Thanks for your patience. Result=Move to draft/Incubate. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 13:04, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, but per
WP:CLOSEAFD, you're not allowed to close AfD discussions that you're involved in. I've therefore had to undo your closure and incubation for now. Adam9007 (talk
) 15:18, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

45.181.171.14 and 177.72.48.196

Noticed yet that 45.181.171.14Β (talkΒ Β· contribsΒ Β· deletedΒ contribsΒ Β· filterΒ logΒ Β· WHOISΒ Β· RDNSΒ Β· RBLsΒ Β· httpΒ Β· blockΒ userΒ Β· blockΒ log) has stopped editing and returned as 177.72.48.196Β (talkΒ Β· contribsΒ Β· deletedΒ contribsΒ Β· filterΒ logΒ Β· WHOISΒ Β· RDNSΒ Β· RBLsΒ Β· httpΒ Β· blockΒ userΒ Β· blockΒ log)? Well, I gave 45.something.foo.bar a message saying, "Edit ONLY as 177.something.foo.bar", and suddenly, 45.something.foo.bar was no longer editing and 177.something.foo.bar was editing again. However, their editing isn't always too helpful, and the IP seems to have the grammar of a 6-year-old. (Also, yes. They violated rules. See WP:IPHOPPING.) πŸ” Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:33, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@Chicdat: Stop trying to police Wikipedia as it doesn't do you any favours, as you are constantly getting things wrong. I also note that IP Addresses change all the time, for example, I could go into the pub and connect to the internet there to contribute to Wikipedia as an IP. As a result, we do not classify different IP Addresses as sock puppets. Just concentrate on creating content and repairing Owen and leave the policing to more experienced users.Jason Rees (talk) 11:52, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Okay. I'll try to work on content creation more. πŸ” Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:55, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
I wasn't classifying them as sockpuppets! πŸ” Chicdat Bawk to me! 11:53, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
@
vandalizes, we can warn him/her. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€
13:01, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@Chicdat and Jason Rees: Yep, this IP keeps changing images for storm infoboxes in season articles and storm articles. Me, Chicdat, and recently Rosalina2427 have warned this IP. IP doesn't seem to care nor respond. Most images this IP changes to are of poor quality IMO. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 02:11, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

(
WP:ANI if this disruptive behavior continues. Though I'm not so sure if both IPs are the same person. CycloneYoris talk!
04:34, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Great idea. I won't be able to participate in the discussion, because of my ban on administrative areas, but, yeah. It's never listened to even ONE of the warnings. Thanks for the idea, πŸ” Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
@CycloneYoris: Oops! Sorry I forgot about you. Great idea. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 13:47, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello so...

2021 in British television has been moved to a

draft, so the article is still there when it is ready to be published. Foxnpichu (talk
) 19:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

@Foxnpichu: OK! Thanks for notifying me! Glad an admin or noninvolved user moved it and closed the discussion. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 19:53, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Out of pure curiosity, when do you think the article will be ready to move back into the normal mainspace? Just when there is a reasonable amount of valid information?
@Foxnpichu:
  1. When there is enough information and not just blank tables
  2. At least December 2020, preferably January 2021. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 22:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Oh shoot. I forgot to sign my previous message. Regardless, that makes sense. Foxnpichu (talk) 07:59, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Highly disruptive editing

Hello, the user you recently warned for making disruptive edits, ShemakesmynosebleedΒ (talkΒ Β· contribs), has not stopped and continued changing content (going as far as changing names of entire sections) without trying to find any consensus on the talk page. Also, the user removed your warning from his/her page. The user is a clear agenda pusher, all his/her edits are highly biased and conspiratorialist (the West allegedly wants to balkanize Belarus and Russia, those who oppose Putin or Lukashenko are CIA agents, the Belarusian opposition and its flag are Nazi, etc.). Please do something about him/her. Thanks. Taurus Littrow (talk) 07:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

@
WP:USERPAGE, users are not prohibited from removing warnings and notices from their talk page, but doing so is discouraged, but will not result in compensation. I will watch Shemakesmynosebleed's contribs, and if there is any additional edit warring, he/she will be reported. Thank you. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€
13:58, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
( 12:51, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

This is frowned upon. Just because you need the redirect out of the way does not mean you get to wrongly move it into the project namespace. It's futile anyways: you do not have the ability to suppress redirects, so moving it only leaves behind something else. Please just be patient and CSD G6 it directly in the future. There is no hurry. Your draft is not ready in any case; it has less information than the season article.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:50, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

@Jasper Deng: I just realized it myself a few hours ago. I saw someone else do it before, with Isaias. Probebly need page mover rights to do so, without leaving a redirect. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 22:14, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
It's still not proper to attempt to make room for a move this way. Just because someone else did it before does not mean it's okay.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:54, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
@Jasper Deng: This might be a stupid question, but Do you need special rights to move pages while not leaving redirects? Page mover or admin rights? Thanks. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 21:42, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes; that's what I meant by "suppress redirects" above. Your use case, however, is more overwriting redirects. That still requires page mover or admin rights.--Jasper Deng (talk) 23:13, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Hurricane Marco (2020)

How can it be from Marco "moisture" as the storm pass hundreds of miles East of Chiapas into the Yucatan channel with its clouds clearly on its Eastern quadrant. Look clearly, the thunderstorm activity over Chiapas, it is coming from a flow off the bay of Campeche. Any reference that claim that the rain in Chiapas is related from Marco is pure bad interpretation. This paragraph should be either removed or clearly mark as a wrong information.

Pierre cb (talk) 17:37, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pierre cb: The news article is stated that the rains came from Marco, though indirectly. I Don’t know much Spanish, but I’m pretty sure the article says it was related to Marco. If you want to discuss this, do oit on Marco’s talk page, not mine please. Thanks.

~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 17:53, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Hurricane Laura

On 27 August 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hurricane Laura, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Tone 13:33, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Too dramatic?

Is it okay to use wording like "extremely dangerous category 4" when it comes to hurricanes? Jasper Deng keeps telling me I'm being too dramatic.ChessEric (talk) 14:30, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@ChessEric: Well, if you want to say β€œextremely dangerous”, you must put it in quotes, as those are the words of the NHC, not yours (even though it is common sense to know that hurricanes are extremely dangerous”). Also, it might help if you put a source to those words of the NHC. Jasper says that the phrase violates WP:PEACOCK, which means that it promotes or advertises something. However, I do not know how you can -remote the danger of a bear Cat 5hurricane. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 16:38, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

There a Article about laura'a total damage

If you look up "Hurricane Laura Total Damage" You will see the total damage maybe i had problems adding in the total damage in the impact page for Laura. Dannisom (talk) 22:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Dannisom: Yep, I saw the article, but it’s only a rough estimate. We need an exact estimate, such as 10 billion dollars, not just an estimate of 4 to 12 billion. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 23:06, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh ok thanks Dannisom (talk) 23:26, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi again there's 2 things i need to Say

1.Can i finally add the Wettest known hurricane to strike haiti and its renments sence laura finally dissipated.

2.I didn't you were removing the last island hurricane in see also and your reaspn was fair enough. Dannisom (talk) 00:04, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Dannisom:You can add the fact that Laura was the 7th wettest in Haiti, though please add a source. I suggest you don't add a table, since information might to hard to find and wrong.~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 23:14, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks I will add it soon Dannisom (talk) 01:06, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Dolores

There will be a GA backlog reduction in October so if you nominate Dolores by that time, surely it will be reviewed by one of the participants. I would do it, but I will be time-limited and have things I really want to get done before the end of 2020 (I will only have limited time on weekends for the most part). Im hoping to get Vicente, Hector, and Walaka (2018 EPAC) to FA by Christmas. Not to mention I will be neck-deep in the GANs I already committed myself to. I do wish you the best of luck with your article and you can ask questions if you have them. NoahTalk 01:44, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah: Thank you. I will keep working on Dolores, when I have time. Currently, I am busy with other stuff, though other users seem to be improving the article. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 17:55, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
The topic below is what I have been working on for the past two years. I suffered from some burnout after I did my fourth FA and felt disinterested in editing for some time. The entire thing will hopefully be featured sometime next year. FYI, Cooper is doing the timeline aspect of the topic. NoahTalk 18:04, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
==EPAC FT (2018)==

EPAC FT (2019)

ATL FT

There's a problem.

I tried adding in the Wettest known cyclone to hit haiti but when finished add in the references for laura all of the sudden the Wettest known cyclone to hit haiti Article made a long Article page down to the bottom of the references page is it ok if you add the Wettest know cyclone to hit haiti with a reference please its ok if you decline sorry for this long subject page. Dannisom (talk) 19:40, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

ArchiveΒ 1 ArchiveΒ 2 ArchiveΒ 3 ArchiveΒ 4

Previous signatures: Destroyeraa (talk), Destroyeraa, Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs)

Current signature: ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 20:32, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Gonzalo

Thanks for the nice welcoming. I was just wondering how

talk
) 13:58, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Re: Nana (conversation with ChessEric to avoid taking up Hurricanehink's talk page)

@Destroyeraa:...not so sure how to feel about this. LOL! Jk. Thanks for the support!ChessEric (talk) 22:00, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

No problem, ChessEric. LOL! Good work. If you have time, are you going to create an article for Nana? I'm busy this week, won't have much time except lunch and evenings. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 22:33, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
@Destroyeraa: I was going to wait to see if it strengthened since shear was affecting it, but there was a center reformation this afternoon so an article is appearing more likely. Making tropical cyclone article really isn't my forte, but I can get one going if need be.ChessEric (talk) 23:48, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
@
Draft:Tropical Storm Nana (2020). ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€
00:11, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
@Destroyeraa: Indeed. Oddly enough, recon data may put this thing at close to or even at hurricane status despite the somewhat exposed center.ChessEric (talk) 01:21, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
@ChessEric: I agree, recon can sometimes reveal some weird things (like Isaias strengthening from a 60 mph TS into an 80 mph hurricane in 1 hour). Center is now within the northern edge of expanding Central Dense Overcast, which should allow some strengthening before landfall. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 01:41, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Re: Invite to join WikiProject Tropical cyclones!

Hey Destroyeraa, thanks for sending me an invite to the WikiProject Tropical cyclones. I did take a look at it but I have a few questions before deciding whether or not I should join. Currently I don't have a lot of extra time to research and edit wikipedia articles. Basically I only take a few minute breaks every few hours in between my other works to check up on the latest hurricane news for fun. Would I need to commit to any minimum amount of work in case I join the project? I would be able to occasionally double check fatalities information for older hurricanes but I definitely can't promise a certain amount of work by a specific time. Hurricane21 (talk) 22:41, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Hurricane21: Doesn't matter! You can take a break in between editing for as long as a year and still be considered 'active'. πŸ” Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:37, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your response Chicdat, I have left a few more questions on your talk page. Hurricane21 (talk) 16:59, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

G6

Just a couple of thoughts on my decline of your

ping
on reply)

@Primefac: Sorry. First, I though you were just another user wanting to challenge the speedy deletion, not an admin. However, the draft in question is a copy of Tropical cyclones in 2020, a page that doesn't have any edit conflicts and isn't that heavily-edited compared to tropical cyclone season articles. In fact, it is usually outdated! Wouldn't it be easier to update the existing article (collaborating) before creating a draft on your own? Thanks. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 13:51, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Everyone works in their own way; I've seen countless articles that are worked on for months as a copy in a user's sandbox, then they just copy/paste the new content into the existing article. Could they have done all of that work on the article (which, usually, is like this one and hardly edited)? Sure. Did they want to? Obviously not. I figure as long as it's not an
A10 situation (copying in the article space) it's a "no harm, no foul" sort of situation. And no worries about the undo, you're not the only one who doesn't know I'm an admin! Primefac (talk
) 18:19, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
@Primefac: Okay, I understand now. I went around on Hurricane Noah’s old draft of Hurricane Hector, it was in draftspace because he wanted to promote it to FA without much disruption. Maybe that’s what this user wants to do with the Tropical cyclones in 2020 draft (it’s currently listed as current-class). Also, I want to tell you that you’re one of the most patient admins I know. Keep up the good work you do! ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 20:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Aww, thanks! Keep up the good work yourself. Primefac (talk) 21:16, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Trouted - 1205 PM EDT Sat Sep 5 2020

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

This trout has been supplied for slapping this wikipedia user for...

* editing other's talk page comments, allegedly (said to have happened on IRC)

don't do that thanks

~ AC5230 talk 16:05, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

LOLSorry @AC5230:. Also, no need to get into specifics (time) when trouting meΒ :) ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 17:25, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Closure reverted

Hi, wanted to give you a courtesy notice that I reverted your ITN/C closure here; please review my rationale. I tend to leave noms open to let discussion play out for at least 24 hours unless it's a clear SNOW close (celeb news, etc.). Best, SpencerTβ€’C 00:13, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@Spencer: Thank you for the notice. However, the article was first nominated on September 4, and now it is September 6 - a difference of more than 24 hours. However, I will let it play out, since the article did get updated and most of the opposes were due to article quality. One editor did mention SNOW close of the nom. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 01:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: making a silly (?) typo here. Instead of saying "Please do not vandalize pages," you ended up saying, "Please do not vandalism pages." Oops. But I fixed it for you! No need to thank me. Tfess up?or down? 18:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Greek storm names

In regard to your reverting of my edit, there is a discussion going on about the use of hidden notes for storms-not-yet-named, if you would like to contribute. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:16, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Articles

I don't know if it is something you would be interested in or not... Have you thought about eventually taking an article to the FA level? I'm in the process of finishing the topic I have been working on for two years. NoahTalk 00:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah: Well, I’ve thought of it, butter I want to first take some of my articles to GA level. However, I wish you best of luck with upgrading the 2018 PHS to FA level! ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 01:00, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
I have helped to get 7 (soon to be 8) of the articles to FA... It is certainly an endeavor. Thus far, Hurricane Willa was the hardest one I have gotten to FA. NoahTalk 01:11, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Good news is that Tropical Storm Vicente (2018) was just promoted to FA! I will be going for Hurricane Hector (2018) next. NoahTalk 17:17, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricane Noah: Awesome! Great to hear that. Keep up your good work!~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 17:19, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Hurricanes in Hispaniola (#2)

I think it's ready for this but I'm not sure, if I should ask you to turn it into an article or get it reviewed, sorry that your busy and hopefully your schedule will loosen up soon (:

talk
) 00:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@
I like hurricanes: Good work with your draft; I believe that it needs a few more sources in the 1900s section and at least one storm in the pre-1900s section. Otherwise, it’s good to go! ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€
01:02, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, will do (:

talk
) 01:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

@

talk
) 18:10, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

@
I like hurricanes: Yes. Please do. Thanks! ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€
18:42, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Hey, just so you know, I'm thinking of trying to get

talk
) 02:10, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for Feedback

Hey DestroyeraaπŸŒ€,

I would just like to let you know that I'm new to Wikipedia! I am still learning the rules and how to edit pages and am eager to continue. I owe a big thank you since you personally reached out to me about the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season article. β€”Β Preceding unsigned comment added by CoolStuffYT (talk β€’ contribs) 17:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

@CoolStuffYT: You're welcome! I just left a message on your talk page explaining some of the policies. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 17:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
@Destroyeraa: Sorry if I seem to be asking too many questions, but the NHC tracks do not seem updated, they are from Tuesday. Is this supposed to happen? How often does the bot update?
@CoolStuffYT: Hmmm. I took a look at it, and you are correct. I guess we will use your maps, though one important change needs to be made. You need to change the rights from you to the NHC. I can help you do that on Commons. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 17:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
@Destroyeraa: Thanks for the image upload info you posted on my page. I'm trying to upload an image of TS Paulette, and I have on the image upload wizard page that this is not my work, but is an original work of the US Fed Government. Is this the right track? I'd like to be certain as not to intrude on any copyright laws again. Thanks!
@CoolStuffYT: I can't seem to find that image. Can you send me a url? Thanks. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 23:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
@Destroyeraa: I haven't uploaded it yet but am going to. Since NOAA is from the government, do I classify it as a government work?
@CoolStuffYT: Yes. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 23:59, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
@Destroyeraa: Thank you so much! You really helped a lotΒ :) I updated the image on 2020 Atlantic hurricane season.
@CoolStuffYT: Great!~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 00:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

WMO

I am not sure it is the job of the WMO to recognise the Meditteranean as a TC basin, when there is no international consensus as to if these systems are tropical cyclones.Jason Rees (talk) 15:34, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

@Jason Rees: Well it is the WMO's job to assign names. The UKMET, Greek, Turkish, French, Spanish, and Portuguese met centers all monitor the "basin" for both extratropical and subtropical development.~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 15:40, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
I am well aware that various national met services of Europe, Asia and Africa monitor the basin, after all they need to know what the weather is like over their country. However, I don't think that they monitor it for development of extratropical/subtropical/tropical cyclones per say like the NHC does. I also feel that you are misunderstanding what the WMO is. It is basically an intergovermental agency of the United Nations which facilitates the exchange of weather information across national borders. Its members are the NMHSS of the world like NOAA, UKMO Meteo France etc who develop the information that the WMO uses. It has various programes to deal with the worlds weather, of which the tropical cyclone programme is one. These have various committees which deal with a wide range of issues, the TCP has the hurricane committee, typhoon commitee, panel on tropical cyclones (NIO), RA I Tropical cyclone committee and the RA V Tropical Cyclone committee. It is these panels/comittees that are responsible for developing and replacing names. However, it is the TC naming centres who name the systems: IE: NHC, CPHC, JMA, PAGASA, IMD, Mauritius, Madagascar, Reunion, Jakarta, BoM, PNG NWS & FMS. Outside of this there are various agencies in Europe who name systems regardless of semitropical including the UKMO and MetEirrean.Jason Rees (talk) 18:12, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
@Jason Rees: Thanks for the information! And wow, you know a lot of the TC agencies! Your expertise and your good work is why I gave you the barnstar! ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 18:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Sidowpknbkhihj

Hi, Destroyeraa!

First of all, thank you so much for giving me Tireless Contributor Barnstar and Defender of the Wiki Barnstar (especially Defender of the Wiki Barnstar). While i should have been given the Tireless Contributor Barnstar earlier for my work on opinion polling and war maps in my early wikicareer, i never thought i would have ever gotten that Defender of the Wiki Barnstar. For that i'm very grateful to you. I believe i'm becoming more scarier to the vandals who disrupt Wikipedia all along.

The reason you gave to me why i got that Defender of the Wiki barnstar is because i'm fighting against Sidowpknbkhihj's socks continously since 25 August. Recently, i requested a global ban for Sidowpknbkhihj based on your comment about Sidowpknbkhihj that Sidowpknbkhihj should be locked on all meta accounts and be banned from creating new accounts, along with his IP address and all his socks should be locked and prevented from account creation!

I have been thinking about requesting Sidowpknbkhihj's global ban for a while, but once i see this comment from you, i finally decided to request the global ban against Sidowpknbkhihj - and also starting my first-ever RfC on Meta. Normally, LTAs like Sidowpknbkhihj never gets globally banned by Wikimedia community (instead, WMF Office has been mostly taking care of them. Just take a look at WhenDatHotlineBling.) - and they are generally globally locked. However because of you i'm starting to think LTAs are not just capable of being "just" disruptive, but they could be more dangerous than that (which means NOT global locks and blocks, but global ban is necessary). I think i might set the bar on how LTAs are handled if this RfC is successful.

Since you are very influential at leading me into this global ban request, what do you think about it?

12:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

@
SMB99thx: I strongly agree with requesting a global ban and lock. I don't know much about requesting global bans and the whole administrative stuff with bans and locks and sockpuppetry. I think you should take care of it, since you are clearly more experienced in those areas. Sidow... is a big problem on English Wikipedia, Japanese Wikipedia, and probably all WMF projects. Yeah, go ahead and make that global ban request...and thanks for defending the wiki! ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€
16:33, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Warning for 45.51.187.249

Was a level-4 warning for 45.51.187.249 necessary? The second edit was disruptive, but may have been just a test. The first appears to have been in good faith, but was accidentally done to the wrong infobox. Or you you have reason to believe the same person was editing from several IPs? TornadoLGS (talk) 16:28, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@TornadoLGS: Well, the Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).</ref></ref></ref></ref></ref></ref></ref></ref></ref></ref></ref></ref></ref> was clearly disruptive. Also, it was a level 3 warning, which I usually do for users who clearly did a disruptive edit. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 16:30, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Ianos as storm of the month

Hi there Destroyeraa. Regarding this edit, I believed that Ianos should be the storm of the month. It highlights what Wikipedia does best with these unusual storms. Teddy is a big storm, sure, but there have been other Canadian hurricanes that were borderline extratropical at landfall. Sally was bad, sure, but from a global scientific perspective, I believe a significant Medicane in the midst of such an unusual and active month should be highlighted as the storm of the month. It will be storms like Ianos that make up the climatology of Mediterranean storms if it ever gets recognized as a basin. I would be arguing the same if there was a significant SATL storm (like a Catarina). β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 18:11, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: I am planning to write an article on Ianos, since it was a pretty record-breaking storm for the Greeks, and a noteworthy storm in general (comparable to probably Tropical Storm Fay this year). The Greeks don't usually see storms this bad, and the last time we've had an article for a medicane was Rolf in 2011. Sure, you can keep Ianos as SotM. I noticed that you changed the early october SotM to a "Camparison between 2020 and 2005." Funny. So will there be a SotM for that timeframe? ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 19:05, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
I realized the first five days of October is pretty minimal, so no need for a storm of five-day-period. β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 21:29, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Topics

You can't just add or remove items from topics. They have to go through a nomination process which I started. By the way, Arthur has to be a GA by December 10 or the topic could be delisted. The same will go for Bertha once its TCR is out (different date of course). NoahTalk 21:27, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah: Subtropical Depression One (2009) was just merged, and therefore is not a GA anymore. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 21:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
I had to undo your addition of a source at Beryl because it flagged an edit filter for Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. NoahTalk 22:48, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

New message from Cyfraw

Hello, Destroyeraa. You have new messages at Cyfraw's talk page.
Message added 20:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any timeΒ by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

cyrfaw (talk) 20:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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42nd edition of The Hurricane Herald!

Volume XLII, Issue 42, September 1, 2020
←(Previous issues) 39 Β· 40 Β· 41 Β· 42 Β· 43 β†’


The Hurricane Herald: September Edition!

The Hurricane Herald is the semi-regular newsletter of

Weatherman27
.

Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here.

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments


New articles since the last newsletter include:

New GA's include:

Featured Content

From July 1 to present, two featured articles were promoted:

From the Main Page documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from JulyΒ 1–AugustΒ 31, 2020 in chronological order.

List

There is currently one featured article candidate:

2018 Featured Topic


Hurricane Noah recently announced an initiative to get a featured topic for the year of 2018 with complete subtopics. The Eastern Pacific portion is very close to achieving a featured topic, and the Atlantic and North Indian Ocean are around a B-class average. The Western Pacific, Southern Hemisphere, and the global article for 2018 need your help! A lot of work is needed to get those three items up to par. For more information on which articles need specifically, please check out the project talk page. Getting a featured topic for an entire year would be an impressive feat for our project.

Storms of the month over the last year
Month Storm
June 2020
Tropical Storm Cristobal (2020)
May 2020 Cyclone Amphan
April 2020 Cyclone Harold
March 2020 Cyclone Herold
February 2020 Cyclone Damien
January 2020 Cyclone Tino
December 2019 Cyclone Ambali
November 2019
Cyclone Bulbul
October 2019 Typhoon Hagibis
September 2019 Hurricane Dorian

Storm of the month and other tropical activity for July


Hurricane Isaias caused widespread flooding and wind damage to the East Coast of the United States, spawning a destructive tornado outbreak and killing at least 18 people. Forming from a tropical wave near the Lesser Antilles on July 30, Isaias crossed Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, and parts of the Bahamas, before making its final landfall in Ocean Isle Beach, North Carolina. The storm proceeded up the East Coast, spawning 37 tornadoes and causing more than 3 million power outages, with more than half of them in New Jersey. Overall, Isaias caused a total of $4.2Β billion in damage and 18 fatalities.

  • Atlantic - there were five named storms in the North Atlantic in July, tying the record set by 2005. In addition to Isaias, the first storm of the month was
    Padre Island, Texas
    . The storm caused $500Β million in damage and 5 fatalities. There was also a short-lived tropical depression near Cabo Verde.
  • Eastern Pacific -
    Category 4
    status before weakening as it passed north of Hawaii. Damage in Hawaii was minor.
  • Western Pacific - For the first time on record, there were no tropical storms or typhoons during the month of July in the western Pacific. There were two nondeveloping tropical depressions during the month, as well as two tropical depressions in late July that would reach peak intensity in August.
    Wenzhou, China, killing 12 and causing more than Β₯
    2.858Β billion (US$411Β million) in damage.

Member of the month (edition) –ChessEric


ChessEric first joined Wikipedia in April of this year, and has quickly become a prolific weather editor. In addition to his work on tornado and severe weather articles, ChessEric helped write the bulk of the Hurricane Laura article (the storm of the month), in addition to making sure the article stayed free of vandalism, with 224 edits to the article as of this newsletter. ChessEric was one of 190 editors who worked on the Laura article. We thank ChessEric for his edits, and hope we can build on more collaborations in the future between the severe and the tropical cyclone Wikiprojects.

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter


More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue. Sorted chronologically.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

WPTC and

A few weeks ago, I created an article,

Wikipedia's In The News section of the main page, which documents recent events that are in the news. I nominated Isaias' article on August 1 here, and the discussion was closed quickly after Isaias had weakened significantly after impacting the Bahamas. As Isaias made landfall in the Carolinas, spawned 36+ tornadoes and killed 18 people, I re-nominated Isaias [1]
, got rejected again, and I learned a few lessons that I want to share to other editors:

When posting

  • If you post something that isn't in the news or isn't notable at all, then it would be quickly closed without much discussion.
  • Don't feel upset when someone opposes your nomination. It is almost guaranteed that someone will oppose your nomination.
  • Keep improving the article. An article that is a stub won't likely be posted.
  • When posting about a person, make sure the article complies with
    BLP
    policies, and is adequately referenced and well-written.

I also learned a few lessons about which tropical cyclones to post. In July, someone nominated Hurricane Hanna (2020) here, and it was also rejected because it didn't meet the notability requirements. Also, keep in mind that damage estimates and death reports often come out several days after the storm, which makes passing the nomination for a storm like Isaias, a storm that caused $4.2Β billion and 18 deaths, somewhat hard.

My opinions on when to nominate an article (this list mainly refers to tropical cyclone articles)

  • The storm should affect more than two countries. However, if the storm causes a lot of death and destruction in one country (such as Tropical Storm Imelda), see the requirements below
  • The storm should cause more than $1 billion in damage. However, if the storm causes less destruction and less death, see the requirements below
  • The storm should cause at least 10 or 20 deaths. Most ITN nominations about a disaster that have less than 10 deaths are usually rejected/closed.
  • The storm should break at least 1 notable record (such as the deadliest storm to hit a country in 20 years, or something like that).

There is currently a discussion on the

WPTC project page
about this topic.

New user perspective on WPTC, By

Weatherman27

Around six months ago, I joined Wikipedia after seeing many articles on tropical cyclones and their seasons. Being someone who has studied (and been through) multiple storms, I realized I could help make a difference, bring more attention to tropical cyclones and that Wikipedia was the perfect place to do that. Soon after, I came across the WikiProject Tropical cyclones page, and after seeing what they did, I decided to sign my name and join the project. I really enjoyed how they gave to-do lists of tropical cyclone pages that needed work among other things. One of the great things about this WikiProject is the warm welcome I received when I joined and I got to know some of the more veteran editors, and they really helped me get around on Wikipedia, such as helpful tips and great advice to make better edits. As I have become comfortable editing and helping other users, some things came to mind that I thought other new users should know when they join the WPTC:

  • If you are new and have questions, don't be afraid to ask someone. There are plenty of helpful editors who know what they are doing, and who would be happy to give some great tips to get you used to editing weather articles on Wikipedia.
  • Don't be afraid to start editing. You can edit tropical cyclone pages as much as you want, just make sure you use the proper sources and citations.
  • Be kind. It is simply the Golden Rule, if you use it, others will too.
  • If you see something wrong, do something! If you see vandalism or any strange edits, make sure you revert them.
  • Help improve. There are plenty of tropical cyclone articles that need improvement and we need all the help we can get.
  • If you have any ideas but you're not sure if they would be right for an article, you can discuss them with fellow users on a talk page.

I am sure I missed some tips, but these are important for getting started with WPTC. This WikiProject has some amazing people and articles and I am sure new users (and veteran users as well) enjoy this as much as I do and will continue to make great edits as well as informative articles.

Current assessment table


Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
As of this issue, there are 157

good articles. There are only 65 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 369 C-class articles, 736 start-class articles, and 151 stub-class articles, with 31 lists, and 8 current articles. These figures mean that slightly more than half of the project is rated a GA or better. Typhoon Warren
was the 1000th GA in the project.

About the assessment scale β†’

Storm of the month and other tropical activity for August


maximum sustained winds. It moved across the Lesser and Greater Antilles as a tropical storm, killing 35 people on the island of Hispaniola due to flooding and landslides. Laura rapidly intensified once it reached the Gulf of Mexico, becoming a powerful CategoryΒ 4 hurricane on AugustΒ 26 with peak winds of 150Β mph (240Β km/h) early the next day. On AugustΒ 27, Laura made landfall near Cameron, Louisiana at peak intensity, producing wind gusts of 137Β mph (220Β km/h) in Lake Charles
, and leaving at least $8Β billion in damage. Overall, Laura killed more than 57 people, with more missing.

Project Goals & Progress


The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.


Pending changes reviewer granted

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Anarchyte (talk β€’ work) 16:39, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Reviewed! β™« Hurricanehink (talk) 22:03, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for
September 2020 Western United States wildfires

On 14 September 2020,

September 2020 Western United States wildfires, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen
00:12, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article

criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hurricanehink -- Hurricanehink (talk
) 05:48, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Awards

The project has a

this to keep track of your achievements as you go along. I still need to create userboxes for 26-40, but that affects a small number of individuals. NoahTalk
23:07, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

I did check over your stats for you. Per the stipulation that you need β‰₯10 edits on an article for them to count, you have 1067 TC edits. I added your average edit size and your "time in service" bonus since you have been here about 118 days I believe. That goes to about 186 points and 196 with your ITN. Don't worry, you will go up considerably over time. I was barely over a thousand when the awards were created a year or so ago. NoahTalk 23:27, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
TD 22 declared! NoahTalk 22:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
@Hurricane Noah: Thanks! Wow, Wilfred is coming... a bug on the NHC website though - it says "Twenty-T" ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 23:08, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Dont name storms before they form! THIS is the real Alpha: "NHC will initiate advisories on Subtropical Storm Alpha, located near the coast of Portugal, at 1230 PM AST (1630 UTC)." NoahTalk 16:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! TonyBallioni (talk) 15:02, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hurricane Dolores (2015)

The article Hurricane Dolores (2015) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hurricane Dolores (2015) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hurricanehink -- Hurricanehink (talk) 12:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Cyclone Ianos

On 24 September 2020, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Cyclone Ianos, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerTβ€’C 20:47, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Note about pings

Follow me to join the secret cabal!

Plip!

Pings don't work if you don't sign at the end of the message (see Template:Reply to#Usage), so this won't give a notification to the 5 users there. ~Β KN2731 {talk Β· contribs} 09:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@KN2731: My mistake - thanks for telling me. You should've slapped me with a troutΒ :) ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€ 12:31, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Heh, it's not that silly of a mistake - maybe this {{minnow}} will do instead. ~Β KN2731 {talk Β· contribs} 14:41, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hurricane Dolores (2015)

Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk
) 12:37, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Destroyeraa, this might sound surprising and unusual, but i'm giving you three barnstars (!!!!!). It appears that your works didn't get respect that much. You should get these barnstars already!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Thanks for your work on tropical cyclone drafts in this year. Because of you, tropical cyclone draftspace is now as active as ever! Without you, WPTC might have fallen behind in terms on article creation. 23:19, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar
Giving you the second barnstar in three barnstars i have planned for you. I want to thank you for your work to advance this WikiProject during COVID-19 pandemic era as well as making this WikiProject well-prepared for our great 15th year anniversary. 23:23, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Yep. That's it. Three barnstars!!!! I want to also give you respect for fighting against LTAs and sockpuppeteers numerous times in this wiki. Examples are Ishultz11. 23:24, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

By the way, i'm also a member of

23:28, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

@
SMB99thx: Wow! Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€
23:53, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Cyclone Yasa 2020/ Late Merry Christmas (lol)

Hey destroyaa just wishing you a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays but I want to bring up the pressure of Yasa in the Cyclone Yasa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Yasa) article. It shows a pressure of 899 mb which I know is FMS's estimate but do you think that its more reasonable to use JTWC's estimate? Doge1941 (talk) 16:11, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi @Doge1941:, We never use the JTWC pressure estimates since they are totally unofficial, in fact, I was told the other year that the FMS pressures are closer to the truth than the JTWC's. We can mention them in the prose if needs be but for the infobox and other articles, the FMS's pressure takes priority since they are the RSMC. Merry Christmas etc.Jason Rees (talk) 16:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok I got it but imo 899 mbar is totally unreasonable for pressure. Doge1941 (talk) 17:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

While it is indeed a strange pressure, what makes the 899 so unreasonable? Bearing in mind that the FMS were on the ground and would have better access to measurements from weather stations near the system.Jason Rees (talk) 17:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
@Doge1941: Happy holidays to you too. Technically, the JTWC is not the RSMC for any basin, and thus we Wikipedians do not use JTWC pressure. Yeah, some RSMCs are incompetent, with Meteo France and the NHC being the most competent IMO. ~ DestroyerπŸŒ€πŸŒ€ 17:22, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@Jason Rees I heard that they gave Yasa 899 just because of Dvorak estimates lol but idk they may have used surface estimates. Doge1941 (talk) 23:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@
WP:NOTAFORUM. Whether FMS' estimate is good or not is not something we're here to chat about.--Jasper Deng (talk)
01:08, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

ok got it Doge1941 (talk) 15:44, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

FWIW @Doge1941: what you heard is not a reliable source or good enough to convince me to change from the FMS estimate of 899 to the JTWC's of 914. After all the surface estimates of Yasa's pressure would have been derived from stations maintained and operated by the FMS. Jason Rees (talk) 06:07, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok but I still think that 899 is unreasonable. Doge1941 (talk) 15:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Wait

I can explain, I am new here so i don't understand the rules, just please let me join! You can let me do a quiz to let me in!

@BCNY2011: Sorry, we don't have quizzes. Wikipedia is not school. You can join when you have a better understanding of the rules, and you clearly do not currently. You need to demonstrate that you have at least a basic grasp of what the policies and/or guidelines say. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 19:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Weather is my life! JUst please... i am starting to cry (tears lol)... my 2020 was harder than everyone else.. My great grammother passed away, no gramah, i just need to join, i can help make new articles! Just let me join... Please...
@BCNY2011: I'm very sorry to hear that your grandmother passed away. 2020 was a hard year for everyone. I am interested in weather too. However, I will just refute what I previously said. [[WP:CIR|Competence is required. ~ DestroyeraaπŸŒ€πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 19:24, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
i am sorry... nw i mentioned my grammah, i am starting to cry...
also i dunno how to keep conversation same