Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1086

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Film characters are no different from other topics – they need to meet

Dr Smolder Bravestone, I don't see where it was reviewed. Didn't you create that in mainspace? I don't really think there is any indication of that character being independently notable, to be honest, but that's a different issue. The character of Imhotep has appeared in one film from 1932 and a very different film from 2000, as well as the sequel to the latter film and two separate TV series. These different incarnations have different backstories, different developments, and are represented in very different ways indeed. That indicates that it is more likely to be a notable character compared to a character appearing within a single story arc, portrayed by one actor, but again, if you find the sources, go ahead and draft the article! Imhotep (The Mummy) is abysmally badly sourced, to be honest. It would surprise me if there are no sources available, but they are not in the article – so that's something that might be worth working on, as well. [edited to add: A very quick search found sources about Karloff's Imhotep: a couple of pages in Mummies around the World: An Encyclopedia of Mummies in History, Religion, and Popular Culture, an article from Journal of Evolutionary Psychology called "Tracking the sands of time: origin stories in the mummy films", and it looks like there are also several pages about it in Horror Film Directors, 1931-1990 by Dennis Fisher, though that's not a book I have access to.] --bonadea contributions talk

10:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I am creating a page and i want to give titles like every page has for example- early life, career etc but i am unknown to the fact how to create those headings. Ibaadat (talk) 09:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ibaadat: You can surrround a text with two or more equal signs to create headings. See also Help:Wikitext. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 09:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Like this: ==Early life==.

bother me...

) 11:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ibaadat: The more equal signs you add on each side, the smaller the

titles

will

get

People who use pronouns such as ‘he/they’, she/they’, or are pronoun flexible only have the binary pronouns used on their page when these pronouns are supposed to be used simultaneously. Are we allowed to edit them as long as they are their preferred pronouns? Sock06 (talk) 08:33, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

MOS:GENDERID

.

As your account is relatively new, it might be worth considering creating a new account with a different username. A 'sock' is a term used on Wikipedia for

illegimate alternative accounts and having such a name might create possibly undue impressions about your account. Kind regards, Zindor (talk

) 12:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Why was my article declined? CreepyManMaker (talk) 12:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse,

Articles for Creation. In future, try to remember that this is an encyclopaedia of notable things, based upon verifiable, reliable sources. Made up stuff and non-notable nonsense simply gets deleted if it's deemed to have no merit whatsoever. I'm afraid that was the case with 'Carrot Kid', and this isn't a playground for pranksters. Regards. Nick Moyes (talk

) 13:22, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Creating References I have revised the draft of my article as advised. Now: please can someone help me create the link of each of the eight references in the text of that revised article to the references list at the end of that article? Merchav1 (talk) 13:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse,

this section. I would expect at the very least that each paragraph about a person would have at least one reference at the end of every paragraph, or multiple citations within it to support multiple assertions of fact. I hope this helps. If after carefully reading through the guidance pages, and giving it a try, you find you're still stuck, just pop back here and identify one precise statement and one source document that you would like to use as a citation, and someone here will possibly add it for you by way of a demonstration, and then leave you to do the rest. You might find it worth looking at the 'edit source' code of a similar article to see how inline citations appear within them. Nick Moyes (talk

) 14:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

First article for review and move to main space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kabul_Model_United_Nations Second article for review and move to main space:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yahya_Qanie Popalzai.diana (talk) 13:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse,

Articles for Creation. Be aware there is a huge backlog (c.3,500) and it can take some months for our reviewers to get around to checking any given article. I would add that it is not at all clear to me what a Model United Nations is. Perhaps you are a little too close to the subject? So, could you try to imagine yourself knowing nothing about the topic and start the article in a simple explanatory way which assumes no prior knowledge? Many thanks. Nick Moyes (talk

) 14:12, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

As they stand, neither article is likely to be accepted. Youtube, Twitter and the organisation's own website are not considered

notable enough to merit an article here. It is not the number of sources that matters so much as the fact that they should be independent of the subject. Mike Turnbull (talk

) 14:39, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Good Article criteria don't say anything about primary sources. Secondary sources are preferred (otherwise the template wouldn't exist), but that template on its own is not a sign that it would be delisted if it went through a reassessment discussion. --bonadea contributions talk

15:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I don't see Bo-Ying Lee linking to wikidata (Q102826015) on the left side of the Wikipedia page. Thanks, SWP13 (talk) 23:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

purged the page, and now it shows. --ColinFine (talk

) 23:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Reply>>ColinFine, How did you purge the page? Awsome, it shows a wikidata link now. Thanks.SWP13 (talk) 23:54, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

WP:Purge (which I linked to). To reply to a message here just indent with a colon (:) - one more colon than the message you are replying to. --ColinFine (talk

) 12:03, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Wikipedia:Purge#Purge local browser cache (the commands depend on your web browser). Joseph2302 (talk)

12:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Joseph2302 ColinFine, In Gadgets tab, I added Purge and clock to personal tool bar. I do see the UTC clock on my upper-right-corner now. Will use it the next time I don't see the wikidata link. Thanks again, SWP13 (talk) 16:48, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

What is a "user sandbox"? I was reading The Signpost just now and in the section about paid editors it mentioned it. It also shows on my user page and when I click the thing in the top right corner of my screen when I put it into advanced mode. 

Hello

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine. In brief, your user sandbox is a place for you to develop content and test code. Please read Wikipedia:About the sandbox for complete details. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

23:31, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine, if there has been no content on the page it doesn't exist. Once you decide to add content to it and save, it will exist. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 00:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Your sandbox will be at User:Ex-Borg Seven of Nine/Sandbox. Just edit it and it will be created. Meters (talk) 01:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

That's the thing. I hit publish, and then it just loads and loads and loads and it doesn't publish. Never mind, is there a sandbox that's been created?

^Talk

03:05, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Le Panini: You created User:Ex-Borg Seven of Nine/Sandbox, but the link at the top of pages Ex-Borg Seven of Nine sees when logged in is to User:Ex-Borg Seven of Nine/sandbox (lowercase s), so that link will still be a redlink. The "Subpages" link at the bottom of the editor's contributions page can be used to find the sandbox, though. Deor (talk

) 16:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm trying to edit a reference by adding text and two .pdf's. The .pdf's are copies of Court documents so I don't own the copyright. How do I add these references without violating some rule? Ralphwrites (talk) 16:05, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Ralphwrites, and welcome to the Teahouse. The answer is that you almost certainly don't. If they are public documents, then give appropriate bibliographic information in the reference (most easily by using {{cite court}}; if they are not, then they may not be used as a source. While it's obviously convenient for reviewers and readers for sources to be available online, it is not required; and if there is an online source, it is important that it be a reliable source - not a copyright infringement, and not a document that a random person has uploaded to a sharing site. --ColinFine (talk) 16:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm in my sandbox, trying to make an Infobox. But when I go to publish it, it has a weird message in the preview. Something about an unknown parameter. How do I fix this? 

Templates can be super picky, and usually they don't like capital letters. Try changing "Name" to "name", "Species" to "species", and so on, and see if that helps? (I don't think "first appearance" and "last appearance" are parameters that are supported by that template, either – double-check in Template:Infobox person to see which parameters it recognises.) --bonadea contributions talk 12:39, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine

, I was just looking there. All the hard work has been done for you, luckily, and you can just fill out a form from pre-existing templates.

I don't know much about Marvel, but it seems you're making an article about a character from the franchise.

Either you're gonna want to use the

^Talk

12:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, @

Please help! I am very new to this all and am eager to create more articles but I need to understand where I am going wrong and how I may disclose my COI regarding this wiki so that it may be published. GW.Pub (talk) 00:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Regarding "I believe this man needs more exposure as a researcher in womens health and prolific academic journal article creator", that is exactly the wrong reason to write a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not concerned with spreading the word about someone; we're only concerned with summarizing what independent

a notable person

.

There are formal ways to disclose a COI, but a simple statement on your user talk page will suffice. 331dot (talk) 00:23, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: Now at Draft:Peter Petros. As stated by 331dot, add a statement to your User page that you have met and interviewed Peter Petros and decided to create an article about him, an are not being paid or otherwise compensated for the effort. David notMD (talk) 02:29, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion the draft is far too long, large amounts of content are not referenced, large amounts are not about Petros, cut, cut, cut. David notMD (talk) 02:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

The comment above this one suggests that much of the article's material may be a product of the interview with the subject, and unpublished and unusable in the article. Even the published interview, as it is written by the article's creator, seems to be slightly inappropriate as a source in this instance.--Quisqualis (talk) 17:48, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I have added a template for the works of Brothers Grimm on the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansel_and_Gretel_(2021_film). However, like other templates, it isn't hidden by default. I can't seem to find a solution to this issue. I want it to be hidden by default as all other templates. Anybody out there knowledgeable on this issue? EnshrineSnowVista (talk) 16:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi EnshrineSnowVista I have made the requested change per this edit. You may or may not know this already, but I'll mention that most templates have documentation explaining various aspects of their use, which is accessed by navigating to the template page itself – here Template:Hansel and Gretel – which explained how to set the template to a collapsed state upon initial view. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much Fuhghettaboutit and Deor for the help. So it is the state=collapsed portion.EnshrineSnowVista (talk) 16:40, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

You're most welcome--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Note: I totally screwed up this response at first—the question was entered twice; the first one got cut off, and the user below reposted with different text; I had looked at the page history and answered the first question only, not realizing the continuation in a new section, but I added an unsigned template for the wrong user from the page history; I have now refactored to combine the two posts together add nowiki tags for certain markup, and fixed the wrong attribution I introduced with the unsigned template.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:27, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Editing References (Source)

I'm trying to edit a reference in an article. When I go to edit the reference, a message comes up saying the references were done on a template and need to be edited in Source. When I click on Edit Source a blank form comes up with only— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ralphwrites (talk • contribs)

==References==

{{reflist}}

in it and gives me no way I can see to edit a single reference. It's almost like I need to recreate the entire reference list to change only one of them. The Article I'm trying to edit is "Staunton Military Academy" and the reference I'm trying to edit is #6. Ralphwrites (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ralphwrites When you are reading an article and see a references section near the bottom populated by a series of numbered citations, you might think that if you edit the page, you will see those citations typed in that section and be able to edit them. However, usually what you will see is markup similar to this:

==References==
{{reflist}} or <references />

In that case, the text of citations is actually in the body of the article, directly next to the first statements or paragraphs the citations support, using <ref>...</ref> tags, which display as Footnotes (e.g.^[1][2]) when you are reading an article. The template code shown above in the references section collates and displays all of the citations within the article in a numbered list in which the numbers correspond to the footnote numbers in the text. By clicking on the ^{^} symbol next to a citation display, you can easily find exactly where in the body of the article the citation text appears in order to edit it. For more, please see Help:Referencing for beginners.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ralphwrites: Pinging correct OP. Deor (talk) 18:24, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

What is the best tool to find spelling and grammar mistakes in articles?Superace6 (talk) 18:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC) Superace6 (talk) 18:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! There's an

article on that and you can also volunteer for the typo team (see that page). Mike Turnbull (talk

) 18:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

hey was "typo team (see that page)" met to link to something. Superace6 (talk) 18:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

No, Superace6: "article" linked to something, as you can tell because it is blue. --ColinFine (talk) 18:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:TYPO for the Typo Team for hints and tips on finding and fixing typos. RudolfRed (talk

) 18:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

https://wp1.openzim.org/#/ is an external tool used for Wikipedia. I wanted to suggest that https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Wildfire/articles?quality=GA-Class&importance=Top-Class should have more entries, because it is missing pages like

Hi , a gd fan. You'd make such a suggestion at Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index. Afaik it's not possible to directly edit the tool. Regards, Zindor (talk) 19:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

 81.152.204.215 (talk) 21:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Unless you ask your question, there's no way for us to answer your question. We're not psychic. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 21:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

 24.18.33.20 (talk) 20:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi IP editor. Read all about it here--Quisqualis (talk) 20:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Or maybe here. There are numerous ones of this sort at the end of The Return of the King. MarnetteD|Talk 21:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

How do we post some new definitions regarding a newly forming world industry, there are quite a few new definitions and words forming here. We likely need someone to help us write and publish too. We're NEW to this. (Redacted)  184.67.11.34 (talk) 21:11, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

You don't. See

WP:NOT. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Perhaps Wiktionary? [1] RudolfRed (talk

) 21:18, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Wiktionary, while it is a dictionary, rather than an encyclopedia, the fact that these words are described as "new" may very well mean that they are unsuitable there as well. At Wiktionary, proposed additions (to the English language version) must meet that project's criteria for inclusion – requiring 'attestation' – verified evidence of the proposed word or phrase enjoying: 1) Clearly widespread use; or 2) use in permanently recorded media, conveying meaning, in at least three independent instances spanning at least a year. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

 Thubgb (talk) 21:25, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

As a start I would suggest that you stop vandalising articles or you will be blocked very soon. Theroadislong (talk) 21:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@Thubgb: Read articles. Find a WikiProject that interests you (they are listed on most articles' talk pages). Don't directly edit pages until you get used to the way things are done around here. Instead, use an article's talk page to suggest a change and ask for input. If you want to practice "technique" consider copying an article to your sandbox then editing it. If you do this, two words of advice: First read WP:Copying within Wikipedia because there are some legal issues involved, you have to maintain "attribution" somehow. Second, remove the [[Category:...]] lines at the bottom and remove any templates that cause the page to be put into categories, such as "stub" templates, because this can cause problems for other editors if your sandbox is "in" a category that is reserved for actual articles. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Maria Tizziano become mother (gave birth to her son) at 11 years old. It is this info eligible to be added in the page? --5.168.17.58 (talk) 21:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Ask this on

reliable source to back up the claim. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs

) 21:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Scratch that, I just looked at the list, it looks pretty long even though it's just listing mothers age 10 and under, so yeah, I would say just by eyeballing the list, 11 is too old for it. It might be different if the current list was age 6 and under and you were asking about a 7 year old, then the right thing to do would be to ask on the article's talk page. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:40, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I got a question and I'm kinda new to this stuff so; How do you respond to people on your talk page?

Thanks! Mr. Amasballs Mr. Amasballs (talk) 16:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC) Thank you EnshrineSnowVista!

Please go to the Talk Page. Then click Edit Source button on top-right, scroll all the way down and find the last sentence. Then add a new line by clicking Enter. Then type. Then click Publish Changes.EnshrineSnowVista (talk) 16:40, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

To make the conversation more legible add a : to the beginning of your comment to indent it. You can find more information at

WP:INDENT. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 16:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for wasting your time because... well your nice but some people are really rude here.Mr. Amasballs (talk) 17:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk

17:08, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Well at lest look at my talk page I mean seriously. Mr. Amasballs (talk) 17:11, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

No, that's standard stuff (business, not personal, making a The Godfather reference). All new editors have a steep learning curve. Experienced editors with intentions to help can come across too curt. Wikipedia advises "Don't bite the newbies." but sometimes that is forgotten. The volunteer editors at Teahouse are on average a bit more diplomatic. Ask away. David notMD (talk) 21:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the user's talk page, perhaps

Guidance for younger editors might be a recommended page to read? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 22:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

OhioLINK pages contain a permalink which goes to an info page that has current links to the actual content. See http://rave.ohiolink.edu/etdc/view?acc_num=osu1180454140 . In this case, is it preferred to use the permalink or to use a link that takes one to the actual content? Is there a template I should be using? Fabrickator (talk) 21:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Fabrickator, it's almost always better to use the permalink, as it guards against link rot. {{Cite web}} will probably work fine. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, i'm here to inform you that on the wikipedia page of Expansion of Major League Soccer i found that you had mistakenly put Kansas City in Kansas while it is in Missouri

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Major_League_Soccer_club_locations_2020.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:BE60:DA1:E844:2756:944B:9EC6 (talk) 22:26, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Note to other editors: The uploader and the editor who changed the picture haven't edited the Commons or en-Wiki in months. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

From what I can tell, the team is based in Kansas_City,_Kansas RudolfRed (talk) 22:32, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

The team is called Sporting Kansas City and they play at Children's Mercy Park in Kansas City, Kansas. The team's administrative offices are across the river in Kansas City, Missouri. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:40, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

 Thubgb (talk) 22:16, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

general editing tutorial if you haven't yet. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

22:21, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:REFBEGIN for how to do that) so that someone on the other side of the world can read Wikipedia and check its accuracy. If you add or make any more silly changes, you're likely to get your editing rights withdrawn. Pop back here if you get stuck. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk

) 23:07, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

 Thubgb (talk) 00:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Thubgb, I strongly suggest you stop with these before you end up getting blocked. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

There's a limit to messing around as a newbie. This child has gone way beyond what's acceptable and I have indefinitely blocked them from further editing, per

WP:NOTHERE. Nick Moyes (talk

) 01:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Good call. Whether you are 15 or 51, editors need to have some degree of

maturity. The difference is the 15 year old is more likely to grow up than the "15 year old" in a 51 year old's body. I hope that when he has the maturity to do so Thubgb returns to ask for an unblock under WP:Standard offer and becomes a productive editor, whether that's in a few months or a few years. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs

) 01:27, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

What is an information gap AngelitaDominguez (talk) 05:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@

research desk. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)}

05:29, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Can I create a welcoming template to welcome users?  Larryzhao|Talk|Contribs 17:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Larryzhao123: in genral, yes, though you might want to put that a bit further away on your todo list. 395 edits isn't that much and I highely suspect that you haven't seen enough of Wikipedia already to be ready to answer the newcomer's questions, should they decide to ask on your talkpage. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok Larryzhao|Talk|Contribs 17:55, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

There are already various welcome templates available at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:31, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:INDENT regarding indenting on discussion pages. —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 08:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Is anyone here blind or low vision? Anyone who can talk on the phone? DrMel (talk) 19:56, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Close - This is for new users to seek information on how Wikipedia works in general. There's also

you're not likely to see anyone willingly disclosing their personal phone numbers on Wikipedia so as to limit spam calls, SWATting attempts, and any appearance of impropriety/collusion if they work in a volatile topic area. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...}

20:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, DrMel, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm shocked that I can't find anything much about support for editors with disability, or even much about editors who have disabilities. There is a category Category:Disabled Wikipedians, but only about a dozen editors have put themsleves in that category, and the couple of them I've looked at don't say anything about their disability on their user page. There is a WikiProject Disability, but that is about articles related to disability. It's possible that some of the participants are blind themselves, or experienced in helping people with visual impairment, so you might ask at WikiProject Disability. There is also a WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia which is about providing articles in spoken form. But that's all I can find. I shall go over to the Village pump and raise the topic. As the previous answer says, it is unlikely that many Wikipedians will be willing to post their phone numbers. But there may be something we could organise; for example, a list of Wikipedian's who are willing to work with editors who have visual impairment: the person seeking help could email the editor privately with their phone number. I would be willing to do that, but I have no special knowledge of the needs of people with visual impairment, or the technologies available to help them. --ColinFine (talk) 23:07, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

WP:VPP#Support for editors with disabilities, and mentioned it at WT:WikiProject Disability. I don't know if you want to add anything to my post. --ColinFine (talk

) 23:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:WPACCESS and meta:WikiBlind User Group. —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 08:23, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Any help? 89.205.138.183 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.205.138.183 (talk) 23:39, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Is that draft: Draft:Electronics the Religion? Wikipedia articles are based on what is previously published, not on something you made up or created. To prove something is not a hoax, supply references. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:55, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm really sorry IPv4s and

WP:GNG. Nick Moyes (talk

) 00:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

If you do find such sources, you'll also need to get some help writing the article. As I remember it (I'm not able to see deleted articles), it was practically incomprehensible. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 08:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

We are living in a time where adults in this country are looking for 1st amendment protection, and young people are learning what it means to have freedom of speech. It is critical that forums such as yours not take a political position in reporting or opining. Unfortunately, we have seen Wikipedia take very liberal positions in delivery of information by being subtly critical of Conservative positions, or overtly kind to “progressive” and deliberately articles, “science”, etc.

People really need a place to go to find not just the behaviors of calico kittens, but also fair critique of renewable energy. Please refrain from politicizing details on your website. Be neutral, really really neutral. Don’t nuke the 1st amendment by censoring speech. Don’t do it. Half the country doesn’t want to see Wikipedia compromise conservatism to further your agenda. The other half needs to see that there is truly a place to go that doesn’t always agree with their political positions, in order to truly bring neutral information to seekers. Anyone can spin data. It takes a real encyclopedia to maintain neutrality in providing it’s users with no spin, no opinion, just genuine, unadulterated information. 2600:1702:F71:4430:3017:4BE3:9AEB:87BC (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia, not one that is supposed to reflect an American perspective on the world. Please see

WP:NPOV for our policy on maintaining a neutral point of view. Anyway, the Teahouse is a place to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, so do you have a question? Cordless Larry (talk

) 20:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

You may find

WP:NOTNEUTRAL interesting. And WP:Content disclaimer. There is politics in this world, so it would be hard to keep all of it off WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk

) 20:41, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

I would echo the above, but also add that you can contribute to articles as an IP, or create an account, and help us identify any issues you find or have found already. It is always best to provide Reliable Sources covering the content in question that covers the perspective you feel needs to also be considered. Koncorde (talk) 20:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Which "this country" are you referring to? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:35, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

A major problem in this arena is that while there's no doubt that biased left and biased right sources exists, the two "sides" are not at all equal. That is, at least in the U.S., there's a yellow journalism, conspiracy-theory-pushing, any-fact-that-doesnt-support-our-agenda-is-not-a-fact machine on the right, grown very fat over the last few years (though started quite a long time ago). They have grown slick and now present as a cross-reinforcing cadre of organizations masquerading as legitimate news sources that mix truth and fiction as a tactic ala the best of liars. Unfortunaterly, they have successly infiltrated journalism to the point where every source that reports actual facts—empirically verifiable reality—that happens to be in an area in which the right's machine has taken an interest and pushed some up-is-down perversion of reality, is smeared as leftist.

Meanwhile, the number of people who have the ability to winnow out truth from fiction for themselves from source material has always been a minority. With that unequal baseline, to far too many the two "sides" just appear as equal, disputing authorities.

It doesn't help at all that even some of the most stalwart sources of real journalism have been co-opted to some extent – for example reporting on the existence of "alternative facts" alongside reality, even when discounting the lies, when they should not be giving any lip service. Similarly, real journalists fall into the trap of thinking being unbiased is to always give the lunatic fringe a seat at the table, even if it's a small one, e.g., even though approximately 100% of scientists agree we live in a heliocentric universe, every time that topic somehow comes up directly, the unbiased thing to do is plant a flat earth creationist at the table with the adults to give the other side.

So, I absolutely agree with your conclusion, person editing from ...87BC, but since the sides are so weighted in the other direction from your post, I cannot help but wonder if you're mistaking our reportage of facts, including the existence and stance of lies masquerading as fact as pushed by those with a political agenda, as being a left bias, or whether you genuinely have come across the left bias your post regards. If you have, post to the talk page of the article, but back up any issue or change you want with a survey of proper sources.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

To quote our founder "The type of people who were drawn to writing an encyclopedia for fun tend to be pretty smart people."Educated people tend to lean left towards analytical thinking entrusting thier academic peers in different fields for information. Thus Wikipedia has an academic overtone in its writing that some see as bias by default.--Moxy 🍁 04:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Please visit

I created the page Vijilesh_Karayad. But i could not get any notification on acceptance of the page. After revision i dint even know. How it is possible. Rahul Soman^{Discussions - contribs} 17:47, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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moved into mainspace. Moving pages doesn't trigger notifications. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 17:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Is it allowed to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahulsoman (talk • contribs) 20:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Rahul Soman, it is allowed to do so, but, as a new editor, you would have been better off submitting it through WP:Articles for creation. As things stand, when your article gets reviewed, that will be the first feedback you get on it, but it may get deleted at the same time. You will then have to respond to the feedback to improve the article and go through far more red tape to re-submit it.

If, instead, you have an admin turn it into a draft and you then submit the draft, you might have the article accepted, and if it is not accepted it is far simpler to resubmit your article once you have fixed any deficiencies the reviewers have identified.--Quisqualis (talk) 04:47, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

I used to submit through WP:Articles for creation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahulsoman (talk • contribs) 13:35, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Rahulsoman, Quisqualis I am concerned. The article was moved to Mainspace by editor Vzazjay, who only has 21 edits, all to this one article. Rahulsoman did not move it himself, of course. I think returning it to a draft would be safer for Rahulsoman, who has had good success with the AFC process. Thanks, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 06:13, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Tribe of Tiger, yes, turning it into a draft ASAP is the sensible thing to do at this point.--Quisqualis (talk) 06:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Quisqualis, thanks, I will put a note on Rahulsoman's talk, and suggest/remind him of an Admin who was helpful with a previous (accepted!) article. Best, Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 06:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

 2A02:2F0E:419:6400:71C8:E4B5:564D:217F (talk) 06:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Ask at WP:Reference desk. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 06:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/2601:601:9480:BE30:8882:7F4D:D92C:5E40|2601:601:9480:BE30:8882:7F4D:D92C:5E40]] (talk) 07:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Help in Improving Skillhouse Article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Skillhouse_Staffing_Solutions

Good day, I was wondering if anyone can help me improve my article, it has been declined for being read as an advertisement but every fact I have stated properly referenced to a secondary source. How can I make the article read less like an advertisement? Thank you very much for your time and consideration. Shallou Vignette (talk) 03:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

promotional language. Pinging reviewer Theroadislong—could you comment on why you declined the draft? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

05:25, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Sdkb Thank you very much for taking the time to read through my article, is there anything I can do, or should do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shallou Vignette (talk • contribs)

@Shallou Vignette: Just wait for Theroadislong to reply here. I don't personally see any changes you need to make to the draft, but it's considered bad form to resubmit it without making changes, so it's better to just address the concerns with the initial reviewer. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 06:36, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

The whole draft reads like it was written by the marketing department, which I presume as you are being paid it probably was. For instance content like this which is sourced to your own website "The company operates on a four-tier fulfillment structure in which there is a specific department responsible for each aspect of the IT staffing process" and the glossy interior shots of the business mke it look more like your own website. Theroadislong (talk) 08:08, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Agree, with Theroadislong; there is also some poor grammar that would suggest it was written by a non-English native, duplication of content (Mark Smith is very important) and a lot of the sourcing for basic content is referring to primary sources the equivalent of domestic company registration websites, or membership / affiliation, rather than notable secondary coverage in reliable sources. Not sure the company meets notability. Koncorde (talk) 08:30, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@

paid editing there are are additional specific disclosure requirements that must be followed, per WMF terms of use, before any paid article can be approved at AfC. These requirements are explained in Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure#How to disclose and are most easily satisfied by the paid editor placing a filled out {{connected contributor (paid)}} template at their userpage. Nsk92 (talk

) 09:00, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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this information to see what would be required. --bonadea contributions talk

09:39, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

@Shallou Vignette: There's a lot of language used here that I would expect to see in ad copy (but not in an encyclopedia). The way the sentence Ever since coming to Japan, Mark has been involved in IT staffing and outsourcing services in Japan, US and Singapore for more than 30 years is worded promotes Smith's achievements. Another sentence with issues is The working staff of Skillhouse is made up of different nationalities to cater to both local and foreign clients and candidates, which isn't noteworthy (in the broad scheme of things) and is phrased to appease potential clients or hires. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:23, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi everyone! Thank you very much for your input, I will work on fixing the article especially the promotional language! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shallou Vignette (talk • contribs) 07:29, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

With the recent advancement of the automated tools that will allow editors to colorize the photos in just a minute, I am thinking of an idea where to colorize the historic photos that are not in color and replace the original black and white photo in article with the colorized copy of the photo, but not sure if it's a good idea to do or not.

FYI due to copyright restrictions, only colorize the photo that are published in public domain, Creative Commons CC-BY-2.0, CC‑BY‑SA‑2.0 or Flickr "No known copyright restrictions" license. WPSamson (talk) 01:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:COPY#Guidelines for images and other media files and c:COM:L. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 01:26, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

original research is forbidden on Wikipedia. Was that old house painted white or light grey or sky blue? Was the woman's dress blue or green? Was the man's necktie red or blue? What colors were all those cars? And that horse? And so on. As I see the matter, it would be impossible to make those decisions in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

02:06, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Cullen328, I agree. Omniscientmoose42 (talk) 03:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm also with Cullen328. Wikipedia deals in facts. Intermingling fiction wold not be an improvement. Maproom (talk) 07:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Is there a standard on Wikipedia for terminology used to refer to Native Americans/indigenous people? In the following article, there are instances where "Indian" is used out of necessity, such as linking to the "Yurok Indian Reservation", but the term is also used generically several times. It is my understanding that this is a less-preferred term by the people it refers to, so would it be acceptable to swap these for "indigenous" as applicable?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klamath_River#Salmon_controversy_and_proposed_dam_removal ShepardoftheEarth (talk) 03:24, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

If you want to change it then go ahead. Omniscientmoose42 (talk) 03:27, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Be careful if you're planning on blanket search-and-replace, though. This particular naming dispute isn't settled; there are quite a few high-profile members of the communities (e.g.

Iridescent

08:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

How do you contribute to an encyclopedia? Are there rules? Admins? Bosses? Caneto (talk) 10:26, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:ADMINISTRATORs to keep things under control and running smoothly as well as to try and sort out any problems before they get to out of control. — Marchjuly (talk

) 10:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@

civility and respect, and you'll find that most of us are pretty nice people (I hope?) ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!

) 10:49, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

essays. In addition to some of the links posted above, the core policies and gudelines that govern article content – what can and should be written and what should not in articles, and what topics we should cover and what we should not, are in large part governed by just a few: Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 11:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I frequently forget my password, so can I create an alternate account for that reason? More importantly, does the policy allows me to do so and if I do it would I get blocked? I can confirm that I will not use it for malicious or any bad reasons. Kajjul (talk) 11:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:VALIDALT. It is obviously OK to create a new account if you abandon an old one, although I would hope you can remember your WP password or note it down somewhere safe so that you don't need to do so. There are quite a few other valid reasons to have multiple accounts, although you should acknowledge on each User Page that there is another account in use. The only real bar is in using multiple accounts for WP:Sockpuppetry, which definitely could get you banned. It is also illegal for multiple people to share one log-on ID Mike Turnbull (talk

) 12:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Kajjul if you add an email address to your account, then you can reset your password if you forget it, rather than just creating a new account. You can add an email address on Special:Preferences, section "Email options". Joseph2302 (talk) 12:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I have two questions. If you partially erase Sandbox, does that remove a previous article you've submitted? I've been reluctant to erase a previous article draft for fear it might impact an entry that has been around for two years. So, I've been working on a draft of another article that I've finished and wish to move to the main Wiki page. Should I erase the old one and then move the new one? Since I have an account, does it need to be reviewed before submission? I'm also assuming I can't cut and paste as well in terms of moving the article.

Thanks for any feedback. I last created an article two years ago and it seems like the process has changed a little. Octopus69 (talk) 03:55, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Octopus69, have you thought about moving your article content into draftspace? You can get it reviewed by a reviewer to see if it's ready for articlespace with {{AfC submission}} (automatically submits for review; add /draft after "submission" if you're not ready yet). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Octopus69. When a page (including a sandbox) is moved, it usually leaves a redirect behind: if you navigate to that page, the software will take you to the target page, but there will be a message at the top "Redirected from xxxx", and you can pick that link to go back to the original page. When editing, you are either on the original page (now a redirect) or on the target page; any edits you make to one will not affect the other. Once somebody has removed the #REDIRECT statement, the link between the pages is broken, and if the original page is a sandbox, it can be reused for a new purpose. Does that answer your question? --ColinFine (talk) 11:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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Articles for Creation means you get feedback and a chance to correct and resubmit an article. Placing a draft straight into mainspace means that, if it's not up to standard, it could be deleted through one of three routes if other editors feel it should not be there. AFC has a 2-3 month likely delay for articles about people and companies, and is a gentler process of review and feedback, with more chances it won't be deleted. The choice is yours. Nick Moyes (talk

) 12:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I was wondering why havent you all reached out to the satanic narcissistic Hollywood actors to make significant donations to Wikipedia? Or reach out to. athletes? Like LEBRON James ??? He makes millions of millions of dollars just for playing basketball why don’t you all reach out to him and his team and ask him to donate to Wikipedia to cover all your expenses for one year so that us the poor and the middle class can enjoy the benefits being being able to look up educational information while we’re on lockdown!!!!! 2600:1700:DFA0:BA00:B8CF:24DF:4B3E:A55D (talk) 08:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia's finances are stable right now so you are free to use Wikipedia as you wish. If you are unable to donate yourself, that's not a problem. Please don't bring class warfare issues or personal attacks to this board. 331dot (talk) 09:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

2600:1700:DFA0:BA00:B8CF:24DF:4B3E:A55D, It isn't up to us. Currently there is no critical need for money. Besides that begging is not encouraged.SenatorLEVI (talk) 09:16, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Iridescent

10:01, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

As noted, those readers can create accounts to turn off the messages. You can try asking the Foundation to stop or change their message, but I don't think that's going to happen. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm not opposed to the appeal—I'm just explaining to SL (a new editor) that we always get a flood of confused messages at the start of December, and that there's a reason the OP is talking about begging letters. ‑ 

Iridescent

10:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

IP user, Wikipedia editors have no say in the placement of those banners, and nobody here knows whether you have donated or not – nor does anybody here care. This is important, because once in a while somebody comes along and thinks that their financial donations to the Wikimedia foundation should give them a say in what is and is not written in English Wikipedia, but again, nobody cares whether they have donated money or not. Also note that editors are not employed by the Wikimedia foundation or by Wikipedia, so you are talking to people whose expenses are not paid by any donations. --bonadea contributions talk 10:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I think that the appearance of the "begging letter" depends in part on what platform you are using to view Wikipedia, and whether you have donated in the past. Right now, I am not seeing this on my desktop, possibly because I have already donated this year. But I am seeing it on my Android device, which is not logged into my account. (This is just a guess on my part; I have no inside knowledge of this.) Mike Marchmont (talk) 10:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

It can't possibly have anything to do with whether you have donated. Your editor account should not be possible to tie to a real-life identity, unless you explicitly disclose it yourself. If the donation system associated your bank account or Paypal account or however you donate with your account here, that would be a major violation of your integrity. Surely you are not asked for an editor name when you donate? --bonadea contributions talk 10:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

As far as I can make out, the begging letter (white text on a huge blue background as seen here in the UK) doesn't appear if you are usually logged in to your account when you open your browser on the Wikipedia main page. However, anyone not logged in — and most casual readers — will see the letter. Mine includes radio buttons to make donations and states that "the average donation is £10" (presumably Nudge theory). I'm not surprised that this makes people think that the WMF is going bust and is perhaps a little insensitive given the year we have all being experiencing. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I wonder if ad blockers might also take care of it? I just tried checking Wikipedia from a different browser where I wasn't logged in, and didn't see it there either. I don't know why, but my guess is that my trusty adblocker is doing its stuff there. I certainly agree about it being insensitive and would avoid Wikipedia during December if I had to see that thing – and I have a lot of sympathy for the OP even though I wouldn't think soliciting donations from specific rich Americans is a good way to go. --bonadea contributions talk 12:01, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I'll just add that I was lying back in a nice hot bath a few hours ago, minding my own business, watching the end of series 2 of Battlestar Galactica on an Android tablet, when I nipped over to Wikipedia (not logged in) to discover the bloody Cylons had taken over and had posted a big blue begging notice that virtually implied that if I didn't donate £2 immediately (like everyone else), then the whole of Wikipedia - and all my hard labours over the last 10 years - might soon be taken down. I was not impressed by the messaging. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:49, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: If you're talking about the end of the second series of the 2004 show, then you're still in the good stuff. Please advise me when you start getting near the end of season 4, because I don't want to be anywhere near that dissapointment, and my condolences.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:58, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

LOL! Maybe I should finish watching now then, and simply cherish my unrequited love for President Roslin. (Don't tell the wife!) Nick Moyes (talk) 13:03, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Ha! No seriously (but don't actually read this now)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:06, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello I need help to edit this article or well known artist Amina Zoubir, it seems that the references I have added on diffreent sources to justify the recognition of the person are not taken in consideration. Can you help me to correct and edit this article, thank you for your help. best

We are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. You need a lot more sources, cited in-line, to be able to come close to satisfying our biographical requirements. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 13:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

The user above copy-pasted a whole draft, so i'm replacing it with this comment. The article referred to was

Draft:Amina Zoubir -GoatLordServant^{(Talk-Contribs}

) 13:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Danke. I edit-conflicted with you removing the draft chunk. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 13:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm currently working on a submission, but the Infobox isn't showing all the info. Is there a size or info restriction within Infobox? Any way to increase its size to include more info? Thanks! Octopus69 (talk) 13:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

It depends on the infobox you're using. There are many topic-specific infoboxen which can have more information than a generic infobox will, but you'd need to read the usage notes for the infobox in question to figure out what each parameter is and what it means. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 13:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Octopus69. Assuming you are talking about the draft in your sandbox, that's currently using Template:Infobox writer. You may not know that this can be used as a module (or sub-template) of Template:Infobox person. The latter has many more parameters. (See writer template page for further details) Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

url}} doesn't work with doubled brackets), so I fixed the display at your sandbox with this edit. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 13:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi! I've been editing as various IPs for some time now, mostly while bored at work, but a few of the (obviously shared) addresses which get randomly assigned to me there are blocked for misbehavior by coworkers. I've now (equally obviously) created an account, but I'm not sure what will happen if I log in at work and get assigned one of the blocked IPs. Will my account be autoblocked? Any advice on how to handle this? Thanks! Wikignome Wintergreen (talk) 14:26, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

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WP:HARDBLOCK. If it is hard then any editing through that IP address even by registered accounts is blocked. If that happens you could apply for an IP block exemption. Nthep (talk

) 14:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

So far so good. I guess my coworkers haven't been too troublesome, but I'll keep the block exemption thing in mind. Thanks for your help! Wikignome Wintergreen (talk) 15:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Greetings and salutations once more teahouse staff! I've been working on Draft:Jonathan Basile, and was wondering if someone could do a readthrough/checkup/readability test/etc. and also remind me of how to move a draft to the mainspace whenever it's ready. I feel like there is somewhere else I should be asking this so if that is a thing that'd be nice to know, thanks! SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 21:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC) SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 21:02, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:REDIRECT it to The Library of Babel (website)

. You are welcome to do that to, simply by adding the following text:

#REDIRECT The Library of Babel (website) and then preview and save the page.

You seem to be wanting 'two cracks of the whip' here by using virtually the same references in both articles - one about the man and one about the website he created. To me, the latter looks more notable, but I think you should decide which you feel is most notable, and redirect the other one to it. If you think both are, you'll need to find better references that talk in much more detail about him. Let me know what you think, and should you have a connection with this subject you might need to declare a

conflict of interest on your userpage. Nick Moyes (talk

) 21:49, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed a lack of unique references, perhaps I'll leave it for a while and see if anything useful as a reference appears, thanks! SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 23:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I think it would be best to merge the two pages. Would I create a section in The Library of Babel (website) for "the creator"? Is this how I would do that? SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 15:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

• @SnazzyInfinity: I've come across that website before—it's a very cool thing to exist! I agree with Nick that you'd be better off to focus on the page for the website rather than creating a page for Basile. Have two pages rather than one will slow down the development of both by creating additional duplicative work. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed a lack of unique references, perhaps I'll leave it for a while and see if anything useful as a reference appears, thanks! SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 23:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Please move the page "East Valla" to "Östra Valla". Waazzou (talk) 16:13, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

^(talk)

16:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

??? RusherLeBFDIFan (talk) 16:14, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

RusherLeBFDIFan, you were invited to come here to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, if you had any. As a newer user, you are more likely than most to have questions. The Teahouse and the WP:Help desk are always around, should you need them.--Quisqualis (talk) 16:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

read the headline Annoyingorange150803224 (talk) 16:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Annoyingorange150803224: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cold_War has a note that it is inactive. There is a link there to its parent project Military History that is still active. RudolfRed (talk) 16:51, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I’ve recently wanted to make a page for the auctioneer Blaine Lotz, and I’ve read the notability guidelines and I think he does a somewhat good job of fitting the guidelines. Not also that but maybe I could make pages for other auctioneers, mainly pages for auctioneers who have recently won the world championship, as pretty much no other auctioneers gets coverage. Please let me know what you think about if I should make these pages. 

Welcome to the Teahouse,

Notability? We'll happily take a quick look at them for you, but we're unlikely to want to delve around the internet in search of sources ourselves. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk

) 15:16, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

There is an article on the World Livestock Auctioneer Championship but it's very thin on details and decent references, so you may like to start by improving it. If you can find third-party reliable sources then they also should help you for the biography to be done later. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Here are a couple of news article I found about Blaine Lotz, I’m not sure if this is enough. [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]

talk

) 16:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:ONEEVENT probably suggests not, although the citations themselves look OK. My suggestion to work on the existing article and by all means mention him there seems likely to be a better use of your time. Mike Turnbull (talk

) 16:54, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Why does ClueBot sometimes revert my edits when they’re not even vandalism? RusherLeBFDIFan (talk) 16:23, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

RusherLeBFDIFan, Cluebot makes few mistakes, but, being an automated process, not a human, it lacks certain intuitive abilities and sometimes makes silly mistakes. Still, it is faster, more detail-oriented and more tireless than any human. Please have a forgiving attitude towards the indefatigable Cluebot!--Quisqualis (talk) 16:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@RusherLeBFDIFan: You can report false positives at User:ClueBot_NG/FalsePositives which will help the bot get better. RudolfRed (talk) 17:14, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

How do you write a draft on a novel you write, and keep it neutral? Theobliviaf (talk) 10:18, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse,

neutral way. That's also why Wikipedia is not a place for autobiographies. Mike Turnbull (talk

) 11:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link to draft Draft:A Curse so Dark and Lonely. Theroadislong (talk) 12:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Clear now that Theobliviaf did not write the novel, but is trying to create an article about the novel. As Theroadislong, commented at the draft, no references = no accepting of article. Use existing articles about famous books as models. David notMD (talk) 17:24, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I was reading the Clue Bot NG FAQ about why this bot's edits don't use the bot flag and it says "Since anti-vandal bots are doing a steady stream of edits that would otherwise (usually and eventually) be done by a human[...]". Isn't this true of every bot? That is, don't all bots exist to do edits that would normally be done by a human? Can someone explain what the difference is here between reverting vandalism and any other edit some bot would do? RudolfRed (talk) 17:18, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: It's an interesting question, and I think the answer is found in the second bullet point on that page, which states: "Anti-vandal bots do not perform precise, exact work like most other bots do. They act more like humans, with most edits correct and good, but a small percentage of mistakes. Bot edits show up as (unflagged) human edits so they can be reviewed for possible mistakes if necessary, like other human edits." In other words, nobody needs to review the edits made by Signbot when someone forgets to sign their posts here (these are 100% accurate), but we do need humans to review the potentially erroneous reversions that Cluebot and other bots make to earlier human edits. Were their edits flagged as bot edits, it could mean that wrong reversions (and I do see them from time to time) would go unnoticed by an editor who chooses not to be worry about standard, 100% automated and petty changes made by other bots. Does that make sense? Nick Moyes (talk) 17:33, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Thanks for the reply and the explanation. Yes, the second bullet makes sense. RudolfRed (talk) 17:37, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for helping volunteer here — I appreciate the work you all do! I've previously edited articles on here years ago but with an old account I forgot the login for. I just tried to submit my first article — hoping to write a few more too! Can anyone kindly let me know if everything looks to be in order? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sky_Blossom Jdweikler (talk) 00:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:UPLOAD to upload the file locally to Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 01:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello Jdweikler. I agree with Marchjuly's advice about the movie poster. In my opinion, your draft is strong and will probably be accepted. What would be useful is if you can add references to reviews of the film by professional film critics. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:54, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Marchjuly and Cullen328! Super helpful. I believe it should pass notability due to involvement of notable people, and release by a major studio. Thanks for the notes on the poster too — I'll follow your guidance on that. Re: reviews, I have not yet found any yet, but will add if I can dig any up. Jdweikler (talk) 17:56, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Pipe Major John McLellan DCM of Dunoon Composer & poet I wrote an article in the draft page about P/M John McLellan DCM but it was deleted in the last few minutes. I added relevant citations to media sources and recieved an email ok to quote those sources but my article about this subject was speedily deleted, why? Baishan17 (talk) 16:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Baishan17: There are a few notes on your talk page User_talk:Baishan17 that explain the deletion reasons. RudolfRed (talk) 16:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Baishan17: Quite bluntly, you have repeatedly broken copyright laws by stealing text content from copyright sources and releasing them here on Wikipedia, which you have absolutely no legal right so to do. You have repeated this infringement and that, too, was deleted. This is one of the most serious abuses you can make on Wikipedia, and you may well have your editing rights permanently withdrawn if you ever do that again.

You need to understand, not only how to properly edit and lay out a page (your deleted version was probably the worst I've ever seen here), but you also need to read

WP:PARAPHRASE to understand that you MUST put content on Wikipedia in your own words and not closely copy other articles. I will copy this instruction to your talk page, lest you forget it. Is that clear enough? Nick Moyes (talk

) 17:47, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

(fixing my failed ping to Baishan17. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:47, 3 December 2020 (UTC) )

Hello, Baishan17. You also need to read about neutral point of view. No Wikipedia article should ever use evaluative language like "one of Scotland's truly great composers", or "hugely talented individual" (as you did in your edits to Dunoon) unless in a direct quotation from an attributed reliably published source wholly independent of the subject so described. Nor should it say that anything "continues to be in demand" or "is very popular" without a citation to a reliable independent source that says so. --ColinFine (talk) 18:04, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I looked at a chart of recent blocks and unblocks and saw a large spike in blocks on November 16. Does anyone know why this is? I'm curious and don't see any other place to post this kind of question. Parrotapocalypse (talk) 18:13, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

As a guess, Trump or his campaign did something particularly gross, or was stopped from something, that day or the day before, and a lot of people came on here to tell us we were lying. --ColinFine (talk) 18:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

If you are writing an article for a movie and include reviews of the film, how is it not notable? It isn't incidental mention. I feel like the notability guidelines are such that I can't win... MoviesAndMusicFan (talk) 19:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk∕_Contribs

19:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Get rid of the cites to IMDb (wiki), j-14 (name-drop), Variety (name-drop), Global Recovery Initiatives Foundation (press release), Cheddar (too sparse), and Rolling Stone (name-drop). —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 20:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@MoviesAndMusicFan: As a general rule, not all reviews should be treated equal. Some reviewers focus on the odd and obscure. A low-budget, no-name film might get "lucky" and get reviewed by, say, 3 reviewers who happen to pick, say, the "lowest-grossing film of the week" or "a recent film by a director who has never directed a film with a $100,000+ budget before" to do a review on. Assuming the reviews are the ONLY claim of notability, it would be a very weak one. Likewise, some REVIEWERS don't carry as much weight as others. The movie reviewer from the local community newspaper that reviews every student film from the local community college doesn't carry much weight with respect to those films, even if he might be a nationally recognized movie reviewer. In this case, the movies are reviewed because the movie creators were lucky enough to be attending that community college not because of anything about the film that would otherwise be "noticed" to attract attention from that or any other major reviewer. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:45, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello! How do I report someone who is adding unsourced additions that are false? Thank you very much Just Piping In (talk) 23:15, 2 December 2020 (UTC) Just Piping In (talk) 23:15, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

truth, but in what can be verified. 331dot (talk

) 23:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Just Piping In You can also put a {{citation needed}} template near the un-referenced content. If WP:Biographies of living persons applies and it is "negative/harmful" information, skip the tagging and revert it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

davidwr and 331dot, I did revert it. Is there no way to report someone on Wikipedia? This person’s editing is very unproductive and they should not be editing. I hope there’s a way to report. Just Piping In (talk) 04:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

There is, but you really want to reserve

WP:NOTHERE or similar situations. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs

) 04:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Well davidwr, could you give them a warning? Just Piping In (talk) 08:03, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm not going to jump into this unless I happen to run across it through my normal editing. If the person really is doing things that warrant a warning and it's on a page that has more than just a few people paying attention to it, someone will warn him eventually unless he stops doing the "bad behavior" on his own. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 13:50, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

davidwr, so I just have to let them keep doing it? I feel like we should put into place a way that editors can warn other editors not to make unsourced and untrue edits. Just Piping In (talk) 21:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

There is, it's called their talk page. But your original question was about "reporting" a user, not directly communicating with them one-on-one as a colleague of equal standing. If you are new enough to Wikipedia to ask how to warn a user, stick with the "level 1" warnings on Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace or hand-crafted messages that are even more polite than the ones in the templates. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Help please! Getting article reviewed. Hi, I'm new to editing on Wikipedia and trying to get this article published: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Linda_Merrick

Could someone please confirm it's in the line for review. If not, could someone please submit it for review by Wikipedia editors? Thank you very much! Hal.mccollum (talk) 15:22, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Hal.mccollum: and welcome to the Teahouse. No, the article has not been resubmitted, but you can do that rather easily: simply click the blue "Resubmit" button in the pink box. However, before you do that you have to check that no part of the article text is copied straight from any of the sources. One reason it was rejected before was that it contained copyright violating text, and I see that you have rewritten some parts, but not very much, so I have to ask if you have made sure that there are no copyright violations left. --bonadea contributions talk 15:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

And do note,

reliable, published sources which are independent of their subject. Another thing to keep in mind is that, in an encyclopedia, what a person is known for is typically kept short in the lead paragraph. If a musician is a teacher, has recordings, has an academic position, etc. (which are normal for a musician), only musician should be mentioned in the lead pararaph.--Quisqualis (talk

) 17:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your feedback @Quisqualis: & @Bonadea:. I updated the opening paragraph. I am happy it isn't violating any copyright. Could someone please confirm it's been resubmitted for review? (Sorry, still getting to grips with the submit function). Thanks a lot. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Linda_Merrick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hal.mccollum (talk • contribs) 11:56, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hal.mccollum: Yes, you resubmitted it, and it is waiting for review now! Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 21:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

What is the category for uncreatable pages, I’m just wondering RusherLeBFDIFan (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@RusherLeBFDIFan: But what pages would that category go on, if it existed? The pages wouldn't exist, by definition. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:23, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Are you thinking of

WP:SALT?--Shantavira|^{feed me}

18:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Yup. 2604:2000:1500:5BCF:90DC:94B3:A95E:96C2 (talk) 18:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

See Special:ProtectedTitles. Is there a reason you're interested? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:49, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

The first item on the list is a category. Yeah, there's a more polite category for

WP:NOTCENSORED be danged!) davidwr/(talk)/(contribs

) 22:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

What constitutes a source that is considered reliable, and will work to get our article approved. AgileMaster (talk) 18:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: User:AgileMaster/sandbox/Essential Scrum TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@AgileMaster: Reviews in independent third party sources would be most useful in this case. Check out Wikipedia:Reliable sources. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Who is the "we" in "our article", AgileMaster? Please be aware that sharing accounts is not permitted: if more than one person is using the account, then each should register an individual account. If the "our" means that you are believing that the draft or the article belongs to some "us", then I'm afraid you are mistaken. A Wikipedia article does not belong to its subject, is not for the benefit of its subject, and should be nearly 100% based on what people have published who have no connection with the subject. In my personal view, your current draft is 100% promotion: as far as I can see, it does not contain a single word that is based on what somebody unconnected with the book has published about it. --ColinFine (talk) 21:54, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm just waiting for that OTRS identity-verification regarding

Her Royal Magesty (User:I'mTheQueenAndIRule?) followed by her asking a question like this, using the royal we. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs

) 22:00, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

To me, this draft is pure promotion by people with a likely and obvious

WP:COI in publishing this new book. It is already cited in the article about the software, and I see absolutely no grounds for a stand-alone article, or even a redirect. Nick Moyes (talk

) 22:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

As can be seen on the article's history, myself and another editor have been engaged in something of an edit war on Covid 19 in the UK. He wishes to illustrate information about travel restrictions introduced on the Wales-England border in November with an image of a sign reading "Welsh Covid rules apply". I argue that this is inaccurate as the image is from several months earlier when no restrictions were in place. I have tried to remove the image whilst giving my reasoning on multiple occasions but he has reverted it. Llewee (talk) 22:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

dispute resolution noticeboard. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 22:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

How enlarge font in which articles and edits appear? Eye strain. Thanks.TBR-qed (talk) 12:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC) TBR-qed (talk) 12:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

TBR-qed, Whatever you type will be set at the default font size. There is a smaller and bigger font, though.

<small>Small text</small> :

<big>Big text</big>

Which looks like this and this.

However, I wouldn't suggest using them, as Wikipedia uses the same font for every article.

Additionally, you can use a ctrl + key bind to zoom in.

^Talk

12:37, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@TBR-qed: In the options of most browsers, you can set the default fonts and sizes (e.g. in FireFox. Tools→Options→Language and Appearance). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:17, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I decided to try making a list based on a category because I had seen a few in the past and it was declined. The article is

What I'm specifically wondering is whether any of the groupings under the "Category:Podcasts by genre" would be appropriate for a lists article. From what I understand I need something with more content, but it's unclear how much content is necessary for a lists article. For instance, there are already the following lists based on podcasts by genre: List of daily news podcasts, List of food podcasts, List of American crime podcasts, and List of Australian crime podcasts. TipsyElephant (talk) 02:04, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

​Probably the best place for you to discuss this would be at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Podcasting or perhaps even Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists since those are places where you're likely to find editors interested in working on articles about "lists" and "podcasts". -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:49, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Why doesn't Wikipedia just use AllSides ratings for their bias ratings, e.g. MSNBC would be classified as left-wing, as per AllSides Evil Slug (talk) 01:57, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

reliability than political bias. Although highly biased news sources may be less reliable than more "centrist" ones, that may not always be the case. Consider the Weekly World News, one of the least reliable widely circulated publications in U.S. history, but not one especially known for political bias. And why would a top ten website like Wikipedia farm out its assessment of sources to a much smaller and newer website? We already have a robust infrastructure for evaluating the reliability of sources. That being said, I am of the opinion that AllSides is a very worthy venture. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

02:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

See also

WP:Reliable sources/Perennial. In short, the bias of a source isn't as relevant as its reliability when it comes to the subject matter. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...}

02:51, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

No, I'm saying that on the page about any specific outlet, e.g. MSNBC, it should say what bias that outlet has based on AllSides Evil Slug (talk) 03:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello again Evil Slug. Wikipedia does not have any "standardized" or "preferred" or "recommended" references. It is up to individual editors working on individual articles to decide which references are best for that article. Adding a single website as a reference to many articles would probably be perceived as spamming, and would probably get some strong pushback. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:52, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

I am in a quandary. I am interested in creating an article on B Flight, Royal Naval Squadron 10 during World War I. This flight was known as the Black Flight because they painted their Sopwith Triplanes black and gave them black-themed names. They were all Canadian flying aces and were led by Raymond Collishaw (61 aerial victories) in "Black Maria". William Melville Alexander in "Black Prince" scored 23 victories. Ellis Vair Reid in "Black Roger" scored 19 victories. John Edward Sharman, "Black Death", 8 victories. Gerald Ewart Nash, "Black Sheep", 6 victories. Distinguished Service Crosses all around, as well as some even more prestigious decorations. Collishaw went on to become an Air vice-marshal.

Looks dead-bang notable, right? Well, the difficulty comes in with Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Notability guide#Units and formations. To quote their policy: "...sub-units that exist below the level of those formations or units listed above—such as sections, platoons, troops, batteries, companies, and flights—are not intrinsically notable." A listed suggestion is incorporation into their parent unit, but Black Flight and Collishaw were the most prominent features of Naval 10.

What to do? Is Black Flight notable in and of itself? Suggestions are definitely solicited.Georgejdorner (talk) 19:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

If there exist multiple reliable sources discussing them in detail then they are notable. Ruslik_Zero 20:27, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi

properly citing them as you go), then the topic is notable, and a stand-alone article is warranted. Full stop. If those sources exist, get writing. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 20:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Georgejdorner I would add a section 2 after history to No. 210 Squadron RAF. If you complete it and find there's enough to do a content fork, then that's the next step. You could ask on the article's talk page after you are done, to get more knowledgeable military buffs involved than you might find here. If there's not enough for the fork, then you could add a redirect to that section. Happy editing. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I second what Tim has said above. A very good way to approach this.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:07, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

To clarify...it's not notability that bothers me. It's the policy that says they are too small a unit for their own article that I see as a block. I do not care to write an article on Black Flight, only to have it deleted.Georgejdorner (talk) 21:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Your sticking point is "intrinsically." Documenting that a small unit existed and did its job is not sufficient. Documenting that a small unit existed and did an extraordinary job likely would be. The fact that the pilots are already article topics suggests the group can qualify, too. David notMD (talk) 21:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

The five of them flying together were credited with 87 aerial victories, which is not exactly ordinary. And I agree with you that the flight should easily qualify--except for that darned policy.Georgejdorner (talk) 22:08, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Georgejdorner, I think I should clarify the situation; the essay (not a policy) does not preclude anyone from creating an article on the subject. It just says that the simple fact of a subunit existing does not justify an article. In all aspects, a subunit would be treated the same as any other topic in establishing notability i.e. having "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Zoozaz1 talk 03:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Coverage? Let's begin with Raymond Collishaw and the Black Flight. And there's the usual Osprey and Grub Street coverage.Georgejdorner (talk) 22:30, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm fairly new to Wikipedia and I'm trying to get more involved with my first wikiproject--WikiProject_Podcasting. I want to create a manual of style or guidelines for articles relevant to the project and a place to discuss those guidelines. I went to another wikiproject, WikiProject_Musicians, and checked out their talk page and they've got a super organized banner that I'm not confident that I can recreate. Is there a Wikipedia help page that explains how to create that kind of banner and is it okay for me to just do it? TipsyElephant (talk) 02:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy links: Wikipedia:WikiProject Podcasting, Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:34, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

policies and guidelines. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 02:46, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi TipsyElephant. I would start with the short introductory material at Wikipedia:WikiProject#Creating and maintaining a project; then (as directed there) seeing the more involved treatment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide, which explains things like gathering support/seeking interested potential participants first, and, if you find sufficient interest, then listing at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals (as noted there: "Sadly, most new WikiProjects go inactive soon after they start" – so finding committed participants seems really key for this to have a chance. [I myself started a Wikiproject that was actually active for a short time, but died on the vine for lack of interest.])

As to the banner, I do think that's probably a bit cart-before-horse at this juncture but you can work on such matters at a subpage of your userspace, such as User:TipsyElephant/WikiProject Podcast-header, taking the code from the banner subpage of the Wikiproject here, and tailoring it for the proposed Wikiproject's use. If you were to create that subpage with the code from there, please be sure to provide copyright attibution through your edit summary when you first save to that subpage (e.g., "Copying content for emulation from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/header]]; see its page history for attribution" (see: Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia). Also, please remember that if at some point in the future the Wikiproject is ready to 'go live' and the banner is ready for use, you have to maintain the connection to the source by moving it to the appropriate Wikiproject subpage (i.e., don't copy and paste to there). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello everyone, I am a new editor who is trying to make their first article. For reference, this is the main reference of the article I am creating:leiden manifesto

Since the source is a list, how should the article be created? Should I insert the list verbatim? I was thinking of having "synopsis", and "reception" headings. 

If this is your main reference, you have a problem. Anyone may create a list of requests, assertions or demands (or in this case, "principles") and call the result a "manifesto". Not anyone, it's true, but a lot of people can get material published in Nature. The question you should be asking yourself as prospective creator of an article on this "manifesto" is: What notice has been paid to it by people whose opinions matter and did not contribute to writing it? What reliable, independent sources say about the manifesto should be what your article is primarily based on. And if there isn't much, then the manifesto probably doesn't merit an article. -- Hoary (talk) 05:34, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for the reply. The Leiden Manifesto was a list of guidelines to facilitate less biased reviewing of scientific research through better use of

talk

) 05:43, 4 December 2020 (UTC)]

As

notability of the manifesto. You have your work cut out for you. I'm very surprised that nobody has tackled this subject thus far. Good luck.--Quisqualis (talk

) 05:41, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I have begun research on the manifesto and have drafted the "initial motivations" section so far. Here it is:

talk

) 05:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

A bulleted list of the ten points would work, as most are self-explanatory. I noticed that #3 and #8 may need slight clarification beyond their one-sentence summations, though. To introduce the bulleted list, you might describe several meta-points which the ten points tend to imply, such as quality over quantity and

perverse incentives, which I hope your sources will discuss.--Quisqualis (talk

) 06:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

It seems a bit disrespectful, but also a fairly basic error on a extremely well-known subject. Rickylee369 (talk) 18:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Rickylee360. Wikipedia's article about George Harrison has a picture of him. If Bing is substituting the wrong picture from somewhere else, you need to complain to Bing, not to Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 18:06, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Rickylee369: Providing the imagery at the Wikipedia article about George Harrison is correct, this will be an algorithm error by Bing, and absolutely nothing to do with Wikipedia. It is, however, a reflection that Google and Bing both regard Wikipedia content so highly (but never contribute financially to our work) that they take it, mash it up, and serve it back to you on their pages. (Our licences do permit this, of course, but the error is wholly theirs.) I know Google has a 'report this image' button, so maybe Bing does too? Nick Moyes (talk) 18:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Rickylee369: This is Bing being Bing. What they mistakenly grab and display from Wikipedia and how they label it has nothing to do with us. At the bottom you can click to suggest an edit and then click on Paul's picture and let them know. I just did as well. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Worth pointing out is that

Featured article, an example of Wikipedia's very best work. Any reader who takes the time to read the entire article, as I did a few years back, will have a much deeper understanding of that talented man. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

07:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

2021 is coming up, is there a way I could archive all of my talk page messages from 2020? Trevortnidesserpedx (talk) 07:41, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:BOT, but you can also manually archive a page as well if you want. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 07:47, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I've always wanted to put them on my page, but they are so confusing. Is there a list of all of them? TrevortniDesserpedx (talk) 07:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

You can find some information about user boxes in

WP:USERBOX. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 07:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Regards Rohit Paniker 2402:3A80:9DB:BB2:17D2:D297:A593:7285 (talk) 07:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Rohit Paniker (IP 2402:3A80:9DB:BB2:17D2:D297:A593:7285). Probably the best place for you to start would be by taking a look at

policies and guidelines. Sometimes these various project do things quite differently for each other; so, we can try and answer you questions about English Wikipedia here at the Teahouse, but you may need to ask for help on Hindi Wikipedia if you have questions related to it. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 07:58, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

How can I transfer a page from my Sandbox to the real Wikipedia? Diaz Benson (talk) 01:36, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Submit it for review with {{subst:submit}}. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 01:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Diaz Benson (talk) 01:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Which do you prefer, what's in your sandbox, or

Draft:Oxford University L'Chaim Society (also your creation)? -- Hoary (talk

) 01:49, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes. It is the same. Diaz Benson (talk) 01:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Two comments:

1. Maintaining rival versions of the same proposed article is a bad idea. There are many ways it can cause confusion, and no obvious benefit.
2. (This is not a criticism, it's a question directed at those who understand "reliable sources"): is Alamy, cited for the sixth reference, a reliable source? Maproom (talk) 08:01, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

How do I request for a television show article to be created? RJ Jai (talk) 08:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk

) 09:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Would it be possible for someone else to write the bio for Donald Trump, it was obviously written by someone who is either a Democrat or someone who just Hates him !!! Could someone who is knowledgeable about how to do this and will not put in judgement like calling him a racist, a liar, accusing him of not replacing aca when pelosi stopped 3 plans and worst of all accusing him of not handling c19 properly when he did FAR more to battle this crisis than ANY president ever in american history, I mean come on the ships, the hospitals, the ppe, the ventilators, Warp speed vaccines and on and on and on. COME on the description of him doesn't give him CREDIT for anything but on the contrary does nothing but try to make him look as bad as possible. Will someone who feels neutral and will just write his bio WITHOUT injecting personal opinion please write this, if I knew how I would. If Wikipedia is going to be like the media and only allow favorable pieces to be written about Democrats then they don't deserve donations except from democrats. This should be a neutral site and only print the TRUTH not personal opinion. PLEASE someone give this the attention it deserves. Thanks; Mitchel 2601:940:4200:38F0:F414:C029:DA8:DAAD (talk) 00:57, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

If you have

reliable, independent sources that say otherwise about his life, please provide them. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 00:59, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state; if you don't agree with what they say, you will need to take that up with them. See

WP:TRUTH. Wikipedia does not deal in truth, but in what can be verified, because truth is in the eye of the beholder. If you just want to stay in your bubble and be told what you want to hear, this isn't the place for you. 331dot (talk

) 01:01, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP. How're you doing out there in Alabama? I'm sitting here in the UK, listening to CNN live on the internet (ever since Fox News stopped letting me watch it here a couple of weeks ago for some reason). I haven't looked at the Trump article, but right now CNN is literally calling Trump a 'liar' and a 'con man' (over his $170m appeal for donations from gullible people to fight 'election fraud' with something called a PAC, whatever that is), so I imagine there are many other good and well-respected sources saying the same thing, which Wikipedia will, in due course, report. It doesn't report unsubstantiated nonsense. But you are totally and utterly correct in one thing: You said about Covid19 "he did FAR more to battle this crisis than ANY president ever in american history" Spot on. Damn right he did. That's one statement that nobody in their right mind would argue with at this time. As you know, the virus appeared during the final 12 months of Trump's presidency, so no prior president could ever have done anything about it, as it didn't exist then. So, of course he's done more than any past president in american history! From what I'm hearing on this side of the pond, I suspect the next incoming president will be able to easily and quickly match all Trump's efforts and commitment thus far to tackle Covid-19, and I know that Wikipedia will report what other reliable sources say when those things occur. What we don't (or shouldn't) inject, is personal opinion; we base Wikipedia content on factual, verifiable, reliable sources. Thus far, a total of 6,104 different editors have contributed to the article on Donald Trump. It isn't just one person collating this information, you know! Nick Moyes (talk) 01:36, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Care to mulligan on the topic area you want to get involved in? —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...}

01:51, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Two comments: 1) As Nick Moyes pointed out, every article is the accrual of content added by multiple editors, so there was no "someone" who wrote the article, nor "someone else" who can place it; and 2) the Foundation accepts donations to keep the Wiki-universe operating, but that is entirely separate from the volunteer editors who create and delete and edit articles. David notMD (talk) 03:52, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Wow. Just wow. This is how the holocaust happened you know? The bigger the lie... Gobsmacking.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:56, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles here are written through the basis of credible sources on the web. We cannot change what doesn't sound right to us, otherwise that would be a "Conflict of Interest" edit. Opting to not include a detail from a credible source because it won't do the subject good is one of the many COI examples. Basically, we can remove it if it isn't backed up, if it is, it stays. Mejorasi723 (talk) 09:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you change my life story? No or Yes? I want to be a Professional Writer, not a Housekeeper only. Geebei1988 (talk) 11:06, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

To Geebei1988: You registered your account a week ago, and to date, have made no attempts to contribute to Wikipedia. On your Talk page, an editor recommended Help:Introduction. I second that recommendation. Please cease from asking questions at Teahouse that have no connection to how to be a better editor. David notMD (talk) 11:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

First of all, I would like to say that I am honored to have a chance to contribute at Teahouse space. Well, I have a query that I just submitted a page for review and it was declined for being read as an advertisement. How I can make that article read less like an advertisement? Should I update the content again with proper external sources? Looking forward to replies.

Thanks Kanwalhafeez (talk) 07:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

reliable sources that are entirely independent of the topic. You have three references, all to Piramal's own website. That's not acceptable. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

08:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

If this is about Draft:Piramal Realty, it was not declined (meaning that the draft is not up to Wikipedia's standard), it was rejected (meaning that the subject does not merit a Wikipedia article, regardless of what you do about it). So, in the reviewer's opinion, you will be wasting your time if you do more work on it. Maproom (talk) 08:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:RS. In summary if an article on an organization possesses in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the organization then it merits a Wikipedia article. You need to provide at least three solid sources. I hope I have been of help. Furthermore if you are an employee of the organization or you are to receive payment for creating the article, then to be honest, it’s best to just abandon the article. It isn’t worth the severe stress you’d invariably face. Celestina007 (talk

) 11:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I

WP:BOLDly redirected the slighly-newer version to the slightly-older version.[7]

They were created by the same editor years ago. They started out identical or nearly so. As of earlier today, they were still almost identical. Thanks for shining light on this duplicate article.

Had

WP:CSD#A10 applied, I would've used it instead. A10 only applies to Recently created article that duplicates an existing topic though, and these were both created years ago. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs

) 03:33, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

davidwr Thanks, what should I do if I see this again? Omniscientmoose42 (talk) 03:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Omniscientmoose42: A10s are pretty obvious. For non-A10s, it's always going to be a case by case situation. Had these been just two articles on the same topic with different text, I probably would've either boldly merged the contents on the spot and then redirected one to the other, or slapped {{merge}} templates on them and started a merge discussion. Since there wasn't anything worth merging, I just went ahead and did the redirect. The only reason I didn't nominate one for deletion is that I didn't take the time to go through the histories of both looking for things to merge OR evidence that content had been copied from one to the other. When in doubt about the need to preserve attribution history, err on the side of caution and don't delete it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 04:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Davidwr: Ok thanks Omniscientmoose42 (talk) 13:34, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Max_Elektro

Published entry of other, similar companies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTV_Euro_AGD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaMarkt

The description of decline is ver vague. What to do exactly for this draft to be published? In my opinion the minimum standards are met, in opinion of moderator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:4thfile4thrank) - they're not.

Please let me know, what exactly to change.

Best wishes - N Nataliagolisz (talk) 13:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Article X does not justify Article Y. The reason your draft keeps getting declined is because your sourcing is completely unacceptable and as a result you have not proven notability. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...}

13:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Furthermore,

promotional. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk

) 14:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'm just writing because I'm seeking some help on a "conflict of interest problem." It seems that every time I try to publish, I am tagged as probably working for this person, even though I do not. I simply wanted to represent Passaic's (my hometown) community in a stronger way in Wikipedia for educational purposes, and I thought their leader would be a great place to start. I am planning to go beyond just him, but now I worry that other articles will be pegged as having a conflict of interest too. So what is my next step? How do I ensure everyone knows I am not working for this person? Thank you for your time. Kindly, LMPAJ (talk) 14:04, 4 December 2020 (UTC).

Hello, LMPAJ, and welcome to the Teahouse. Put a statement on your user page saying essentially what you have said above. --ColinFine (talk) 14:31, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Hector Carlos Lora

(or here). You put it in article space, so it can be discussed in article space

My sandbox is flummoxed by a failed effort to refer to a section of an encyclopedia article, as distinct from reference to page or chapter. My section on Duhem; Stanford encyclopedia section 1.2 in article by Psillos. Thanks.TBR-qed (talk) 12:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC) TBR-qed (talk) 12:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, TBR-qed, and welcxome to the Teahouse. Your question was a bit hard to comprehend, but I did find two duff references at User:TBR-qed/sandbox which I fixed with this edit. (You had some spurious characters present in two of the references, and some curly brackets used in the wrong places.) Hope that helps? I am a bit concerned that you appear to be writing an incredibly long-winded essay on a topic about which we appear to already have an article (Problem of induction). Is there a reason for this? Striking final question as I've just found this. It also looks like you're beginning to appreciate that we don't write opinion pages about topics in this encyclopaedia, but report what other reliable sources have written about them, and in in a neutral, non-interpretative manner, which is very different from the style encouraged in academia. Regards,  Nick Moyes (talk) 13:34, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your corrections and revision warning. I hope soon to finish my sandbox revision demonstrating that the existing Problem of induction is indeed obsolete, and that massive replacement is justified.TBR-qed (talk) 14:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Pipe Major John McLellan DCM of Dunoon I'd like to thank all the editors who have replied to my question. I've learned from this positive experience! And I aim to follow the Wikipedia guidelines in future articles. Keep up the good work!Baishan17 (talk) 14:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC) Baishan17 (talk) 14:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the appreciation, Baishan17. Feedback here can sometimes be rather bruising, so it's good to hear when people have found it useful. --ColinFine (talk) 15:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, just kidding. How do I add tables? RusherLeBFDIFan (talk) 13:57, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk

14:54, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Click insert and then table. The link above by Le Panini should help you. TigerScientist (talk) 15:57, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

I have received a rejection for my Submission for Draft: Gilles J Guillemin for not being encyclopaedic enough/too many peacock words/terms.

I have reviewed it myself and edited as much as I can see, as well as adding some more citations. However, I would love if someone could take a look over it before I re-submit to make sure I have understood the reason it was rejected and made the appropriate changes.

This is my first submission, so I am still working out how to make a good article.

Many thanks :) Rom0011 (talk) 05:31, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

in certain cases. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 06:16, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia notability doesn't come from an enumeration of facts about a subject. Significant coverage in independent, published sources which discuss the subject in depth are what an international encyclopedia needs; Employers and HR professionals are not Wikipedia's target audience. With respect to the biobank, surely there should be something more than a PR notice on line. Neuroscientists all over Oceania must have been excited to have it. Find coverage of that in reliable sources. If you are not familiar with Guillermin's research, be sure to familiarize yourself so you can find (we hope) mentions of its significance to his field of study. Good luck; you have a lot of shovel work ahead of you. Beyond the two paragraphs I edited, I went no further, but some of the remainder of the article needs to be cut, plus find more evidence of significance. For instance, did the Legion go into any detail on the importance of his research? What did the speeches at his award ceremony say, if anything? Etc, etc.--Quisqualis (talk) 06:34, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

• I would not put much weight on the
  WP:NACADEMIC pass based on criterion #2 or #3 seems unlikely, although #1 is possible if there are more sources. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me}
  16:26, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. 2facediani (talk) 17:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@

MOS:BIO, WP:Citing sources, and WP:External links. GoingBatty (talk

) 17:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2facediani (talk • contribs) 18:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@

[ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 18:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:242d Ordnance Battalion (EOD)

ARMY UNIT WIKI PAGE I created a draft with hopes of someone reviewing and publishing the page but no luck. You can find the article under " Draft: 242D Ordnance Battalion (EOD) " Can someone please help me get this article published? Panamenoae (talk) 18:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)Alex Panameno

@

subst:submit}}. If it doesn't appear to meet the standards, then there is no way to get it published. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

18:40, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

This was also asked at the help desk. @Panamenoae: please only seek one method of assitence at a time. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I've watched a couple pages where someone claims that a person's divorce is considered wp:exceptional. I'm not sure but I thought the scarlet letter days of divorce are long gone particularly when about 1/2 of all marriages end in divorce within the US. I think their reason for not wanting it posted is because on the 2-3 articles that exist referencing the divorce one of the couple is stated to be seeing someone. I can understand this new relationship not being posted but the divorce itself I think is fairly fundamental. I've also hear the lady reference being divorced on her tv show. Maybe someone can give some clarity. SailedtheSeas (talk) 17:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

SailedtheSeas, it's not that there's a stigma, it's that we don't want to report someone is divorced if they aren't. So we require a source. —valereee (talk) 17:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

There are at least two online sources (as well as at least one time where she mentioned it on air), so it's not that there's not a source. I think the problem is that it also has one of the people in a relationship which appears to be after separation but before the final divorce. I guess it's unfortunate that the people are not more noteworthy so that there would be a lot of articles. Out of curiousity, if the person does mention being divorced (it was actually phrased by her as ex-husband) on air where there could be a video clip could that be used as a source? SailedtheSeas (talk) 17:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

non-public figures. The latter guidance also has a link about using primary source material. Regards, Zindor (talk

) 18:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't think using ex-husband is definite enough. Divorce proceedings can take a long time and its not too unusual for separated (but not yet divorced) spouses to refer to each other as ex-whatever. Zindor (talk) 19:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Both of those events are approaching, will there be a wiki for these events? Like Wikipedia 10? Or will there just be some other festival? 

I haven't heard anything about such an event, though I am pretty sure that due to COVID, there probbably isn't going to be many (And Some of the Ideas I haave are in

WP:BEANS teritory) Victor Schmidt (talk

) 20:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@

The Signpost. You can see a "best guess" of when this will be at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom#Billionth edit countdown. As of now, the automatic calculations suggest that it will happen around January 11th. My guess is that as the date gets closer, editing will "pick up speed" so we may be looking at a few days before then. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs

) 20:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I visited Iyer and found a fake reference . The cite 82 provide a page number 3899 while the book only has 820 pages. Here is the book https://books.google.co.in/books/about/Encyclopaedia_of_Indian_Literature.html?id=KnPoYxrRfc0C

Some one has lied and added a fake reference. Another account (Wikiality123) removed it by saying the same thing https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iyer&diff=979904348&oldid=978085470

An older version was restored by Holderlin2019 and it got lost. There is a lock and I cannot edit it. ஆகாயராஜ் (talk) 19:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@ஆகாயராஜ்: The page number is correct. Pages start in the 3000s, as per the Google link you provided. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@ஆகாயராஜ்: Right. You can see on page 3819 that it is the title page for "Volume V / Sasay to Zorgot". The first article page (Sasay) is 3833 and you can see that page number printed on that (upside-down) page. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

wiki won't let me edit the page for undertale even though it has misinformation and must be changed please tell me how to edit this page

Thank you, J.S. Rinoking358 (talk) 20:43, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Rinoking358: Welcome to Wikipedia. Please start a discussion on that article's talk page to get consensus with other editors on your proposed changes. Be sure to include what sources you are using for you changes. RudolfRed (talk) 20:51, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

thank you for the advice I will try to do this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rinoking358 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

The article is semi-protected, meaning that without having made more than ten edits, you were not allowed to edit it. You correctly proposed a change on the Talk page of the article and got an answer. David notMD (talk) 22:25, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@

^Talk

23:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Do I need permission from anybody to create and publish a userbox? TrevortniDesserpedx (talk) 00:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

talk

) 01:03, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Trevortnidesserped, generally speaking, no. Adding a userbox may put you in a category for something like a WikiProject that might raise a few eyebrows, but no one really pays attention to those as far as I'm aware. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:04, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@TrevortniDesserpedx: Within reason, you are free top make any userbox you wish (see my poor attempt at humour here), but be aware that if you were to try to create a userbox that is deemed as offensive, racist or otherwise unacceptable, it will be deleted. (Personally, I quite like it when users help me by self-identifying as a racist, bigot or misogynist etc., but the consensus here seems to be that we delete offensive userboxes straight away). Nick Moyes (talk) 01:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Can anyone kindly let me know where to find users to whom I can ask to check my Greek of https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Τομ_Ζούντμπι ? Thanks! RøedS (talk) 13:38, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Try WT:WikiProject Greece -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:43, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@RøedS: Each language Wikipedia has its own help desk. For Greek Wikipedia, it may be el:Βικιπαίδεια:Αγορά. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 15:34, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I'll try those pages. Thanks lots for quick and kind replying!! RøedS (talk) 02:44, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Been working on

WP:NALBUM. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

00:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Sdkb. Would you happen to have any knowledge on the process of moving drafts and the types of users who can? I'd like to get into making more articles but I'm not 100% sure where/how to start. SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 00:58, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

autoconfirmed, you can move drafts directly to mainspace. However, they will still be reviewed by a New Page Patroller, who may nominate them for deletion if their notability is questionable. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

01:04, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! (P.S. I like your custom signature!)SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 01:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome! And thanks! {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 01:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@SnazzyInfinity: Since the article is so short and has almost no sources, I think you might consider merging it with Ghost Community. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 03:01, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Please disregard, the problem has been resolved.

Kindest Regards for any advice! W2317 (talk) 04:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

FYI

 – Heading added by Tenryuu.

Can you help me edit the page

@Starkiryu64: You will need to find sources demonstrating the notability of this person in order to save the article. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 06:13, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Draft:Gabriel T. Rozman

This regards the draft for "Gabriel T Rozman". How do I tag for review my draft submission ? I pressed the "tag" button shown, but an AFC template box appeared with text already in the multiple and numbered white text boxes. Thank you. Kiraly17 (talk) 01:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC) Kiraly17 (talk) 01:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Kiraly17, if you're looking to resubmit the draft for review, you can click the blue Resubmit button in the latest declined divbox. I would suggest reading what the second declining reviewer (Berrely) has to say before pressing it, however. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:07, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

conflict of interest guideline. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

01:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

FYI

 – Making this a subsection of the previous section. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

This regards the draft for "Gabriel T Rozman". I need help with inserting a photo. I have read the help text and have tried to google the info, but when I insert the photo according to the instructions as I understand them, the photo is inserted in the middle of a random paragraph of the draft! Thanks so much for any help.Kiraly17 (talk) 01:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC) Kiraly17 (talk) 01:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Kiraly17, could you edit the draft so we can see what you mean? We'll probably be able to fix it for you. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 01:11, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

In the infobox, select add more fields and add the image field and then copy the link of the picture you want into that section. TigerScientist (talk) 01:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

In general, however, an image doesn't help a draft get approved, and it's better to save them for when/if the draft is approved and moved to articlespace. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 03:30, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Kiraly17. I restored the image in the proper place for a lead image, which is immediately before the first sentence of the lead paragraph. You had inserted it in the section of the wikicode that has to do with the Articles for Creation review process. It displays correctly now, although I recommend cropping out those big empty spaces to the left and right. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Requesting teahouse feedback for improvement

FYI

 – Another section merge. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:10, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

This regards the draft for "Gabriel T Rozman". I have twice submitted this draft for review. The first rejection stated it was too much like a resume/CV, the second rejection indicated a need for more biographical information. I am working on the latter but would welcome input from the community as for tips for approval. Thanks to all !!Kiraly17 (talk) 01:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC) Kiraly17 (talk) 01:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:NPOV, and general information on writing a page is at Help:Your first article. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

01:13, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

external links from the body of the draft. External links should be used very sparingly and only in specific sections. They are not for general information about other topics mentioned in the article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

04:35, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

This regards the draft for "Gabriel T Rozman". When editing a draft, how do I save my work if I am not yet ready to publish? I have just lost 2 hours work (but fortunately printed beforehand so all is not lost). How do you save a draft, then go back later and continue working on it before finally publishing? Thanks a million.Kiraly17 (talk) 01:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC) Kiraly17 (talk) 01:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Kiraly17, whenever you click the blue publish button, the page is saved, and it should be there when you come back to it unless someone else edits it. You'd have to give us a more detailed explanation of what you did and how things disappeared for us to be able to figure out exactly what happened. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 01:15, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Also, in the future Kiraly17, please don't create new sections when asking questions about the same draft; it causes trouble for the archiving bot. Subsections (with === ===) are fine. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:18, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Its here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gabriel_T._Rozman When searching do Draft:name of draft and it will come up. Also that page needs more reliable citations. TigerScientist (talk) 01:26, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Note that "publish changes" should be interpreted to simply mean "save changes". "Publish changes" does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia". The button used to say save changes, but the Foundation changed it for legal reasons, to emphasize that all edits are visible to the public even if not formally part of the encyclopedia(talk pages, policy pages, sandbox edits, etc.). 331dot (talk) 01:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

What is protocol for an auto-confirmed user when I find an account I believe who's intent is vandalism or unconstructive editing? SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 02:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:AIV. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 02:12, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 02:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

 Dicesstool (talk) 04:11, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:WARN. You don't always need to give a full series in order, and it is always subject to context, e.g., extreme vandalism requires less or (sometimes even no) warnings before a block, but reports at AIV are often declined if suitable warnings have not been given. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 05:32, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

vandalism and "unconstructive" edits. It has to do with clear evidence of intent. An edit that is actually vandalism is made with the intent of damaging the encyclopedia. Edits that are misguided, incorrect due to a misunderstanding or unfamiliarity with sources, but intended to improve an article, are not vandalism. Do not issue vandalism warnings for the second type of edit. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

06:57, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

When editing (for example, the article on Friedrich Nietzsche: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Friedrich_Nietzsche&action=edit) I see the word “Endflatlist” between brackets, but the list doesn’t appear as a list in the article itself. Thanks. GümsGrammatiçus (talk) 10:48, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@GümsGrammatiçus: its a template. See Template:endflatlist. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 11:05, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion that I see Template:endflatlist. So, I saw Template:endflatlist, and that page doesn't appear to explain what it is much beyond that it's a template. So I'm interested in knowing what it does? Or Why would it exist in an article? Or why would editors bother with an Endflatlist template? It doesn't seem to contribute to the general reader of Wikipedia, but it must have some purpose. Thanks.GümsGrammatiçus (talk) 04:59, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Startflatlist}} ... {{Endflatlist}} example). —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 02:09, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you AlanM1, I am indeed seeing the example lists (Dog, horse... etc.) But I'm looking for a definition of a device or template with the word “Endflatlist” between brackets -- a list that doesn’t appear as a list in the article itself. What does it do? Why would an editor include such a thing that is invisible to the general reader? If you want to make a list there are many ways to do that, why do editors use this particular device or template? What would be the criteria for including items in such lists?GümsGrammatiçus (talk) 04:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

I have explored a bit, and I believe I have found the answer to my own question: “A flatlist or endflatlist (placed between curly brackets) can be defined as an editing device that is used to create a list of words or proper nouns, that will appear in an article horizontally — running from the left margin to the right margin, as opposed to stacking the words vertically. Using another template or device, the content of a list can be hidden, and then caused to appear after a reader clicks on the word ‘show’.” I think that might be a fair definition. It strikes me that if a definition like that does not exist on Wikipedia (as appears to be the case), there might be a need for a general “Glossary for Wikipedia Editors” — other glossaries exist here. It could use some Teahouse questions as a source — I see candidate entries on this Teahouse page. Thanks to all for considering my questions. -- GümsGrammatiçus (talk) 13:12, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:CHEATSHEET, which has examples of basic Wikitext and other things, with many links to more detailed docs. I hope this helps. —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 22:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Thank you very much for the good suggestions, and for the helpful links you provided. GümsGrammatiçus (talk) 11:04, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

If you click here https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds_United_FC#S%C3%BA%C4%8Dasn%C3%A1_zostava and scroll down, you will see all the elements got pulled right. Tried to fix it, but since I don't know how, I rather did not touch it. I have noticed a few Wiki pages having the same problem. Thank you for advise TomasHvizdak (talk) 09:39, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@TomasHvizdak: This page is not within the english Wikipedia, but within I think the slovak Wikipedia. Try asking at sk:Wikipédia:Potrebujem_pomoc. My guess would be that the table there is not properly closed. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:58, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi @TomasHvizdak: The link you posted is for the Slovakian Wikipedia. You’ll have more luck posting on their help pages. I did a quick search and unfortunately can’t find the link for you. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:09, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I conjured my inner Slovakian and I believe I've fixed it. Zindor (talk) 11:17, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

 Bety Bannwart (talk) 11:01, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@

relible source. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 11:20, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

should there be a disambiguation? Wilayah (administrative) and Walayah (ideology)? Baratiiman (talk) 11:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Baratiiman, according to Wikipedia:Disambiguation, articles that only have one other exact name should have a hatnote to describe it, rather than its own page. I've added this to each of the pages.

What criteria of

• Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. The Supermind (talk) 09:26, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

• I told The Supermind to ask here. This is about
  Kiev Day and Night#Alexander Ozolin. Me and JJMC89 doubt the song warrants a fair use sample. — Alexis Jazz (talk
  or ping me) 11:38, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz, According to the speedy deletion tag, it seems the reason is that the use of the sound file does not reference a significant amount of the article, rather one trivial sentence. When it comes to fair-use policies, we don't own the contents of these images, sounds, etc., so they must be used sparingly.

Hi there, I earlier created article for CNEEC, as a participant of WAM 2020, unfortunately didn't get my article approved due to its adverts/promo workdings n poor referencing n citations as well. Later, however I really worked hard upon editing, refernced n cited properly, removed promo characters as well. Please anybody here to help me out, that how I can I improve it even further, no prob. if it won't get accepted even at this time also, I am ready to work upon even a 100 times as well. What I only want to know is what's still wrong with the article that it has still hann't got any response or is it still in waiting progress. Kindly go through the below the link and all the page history as well which is to be checked. Many Thanks n Regards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:China_National_Electric_Engineering_Company ~~SB~~ 12:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding

I looked at just one source cited in the draft: this one at protenders.com. Pretty obviously this says what CNEEC pays the website to say: it even points out that miscellaneous information is missing because CNEEC hasn't supplied it. This is not a reliable source (as understood in Wikipedia). Wikipedia articles have to be based on reliable sources. -- Hoary (talk) 12:11, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I ve' removed that Web Address for not being the correct ref, with improving the existing references also. Thanks.

How do I change my signature to pale pink background, purple words, and cursive font? Thanks in advance. 

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine. Yeah, we're great like that. I'll knock together some sigs for you and drop them in your sandbox. Once you've decided on a design, or made one yourself, go to the preferences tab in the top right of the screen, scroll down and paste the markup in the signature field, then tick the box that says 'Treat as Wiki markup'. Then click 'save' at the bottom of the page. Regards, Zindor (talk

) 12:41, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Zindor: Lol, and thanks. I'll keep an eye out.

Please see this, as yet, unanswered question I have posted at the Help Desk. I would welcome feedback there, lest I've been doing something wrong all this time. Thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Please i need with my article Samuel Ridwan i want to get it approved but am not sure what the problem is so please help me identify the errors and how to fix it. please help thank you Campusfilla (talk) 12:07, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

The template at the top says that the references "do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject". I see no reference to any published, reliable, secondary source that's independent of Ridwan. If there are good sources, use them; if there aren't, the draft is doomed. -- Hoary (talk) 12:15, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Hoary So the problem is the references okay sure so i have to change them to a published article about Ridwan online and please how many reference do i need to put in Campusfilla (talk)

And Please Hoary Apart from the references is there any thing that needs to be done Campusfilla (talk)

Hello,

reliably published. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources.. --ColinFine (talk

) 13:31, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, the most obvious problem is the lack of any evidence that Ridwan is

notable. Unless you can establish his notability, any other work will be wasted. Maproom (talk

) 14:04, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Well Noted ColinFine Maproom. Campusfilla (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:16, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

How do I submit for draft reveiw Iwillbe65 (talk) 14:42, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, I have added the submit template, but the draft would be rejected if submitted as it stands, there is no indication of notability. Theroadislong (talk) 15:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi

WP:UPNOT. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 15:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

When can I be a “confirmed” and an “auto-confirmed” user? RusherLeBFDIFan (talk) 13:49, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. Concentrate on making intelligent, well referenced edits to existing articles, the huge majority of which don't need any kind of "confirmation". -- Hoary (talk) 13:58, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

autoconfirmed later today, when 21:30 (UTC) passes, i.e, 96 hours (four days) after your account was created. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 16:13, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Where do I submit page ideas? RusherLeBFDIFan (talk) 14:45, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@

try it sourself. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 15:12, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Victor Schmidt: Where’s the category for airplanes + how do I join a WikiProjecy? RusherLeBFDIFan (talk) 15:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@RusherLeBFDIFan: There is no specific Category for airplanes, try searching in Category:Aircraft. As for WikiProjects, requirements and join Process is Project dependent. Try asking on the respective talkpage. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:11, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@

^Talk

17:24, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I have a doubt about using press releases as sources for Wikipedia articles, can we use Press Releases? Nameisthor (talk) 17:03, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

In limited cases, as described in

notability (as WIkipedia defines it). Victor Schmidt (talk

) 17:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:RS for more. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!

) 17:34, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I recently joined WIKIPEDIA and I am curious and start learning new things from Wikipedia, I have come to know that without proper article sources and notability an article won't be published, but I saw many of the articles on Wikipedia without proper citation and sources. Is this possible? Thank You. Nameisthor (talk) 17:21, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@

the Articles for Creation process, reviewers will be checking if you sourced every claim; if not, it will get rejected. If you find an article that does not have a source, or has a tag like ^{[citation needed]}, go ahead and see if you can find a source for it! That's one good way to ensure that Wikipedia stays as close to the truth as possible. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!

) 17:30, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Older articles, especially, may not conform with current guidelines. As Ganbaruby noted, New editors are recommended to submit draft articles to Articles for Creation, which then calls for an experienced reviewer to accept or decline, but editors who are auto-confirmed can skpi AfC and create an article directly into mainspace. If flawed, such articles may be nominated to Articles for deletion (AfD). David notMD (talk) 17:34, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

(

notable). unfortunately, improving (or deleting) such articles is not something that many editors choose to spend their time doing, so they tend to hang around, lowering the overall standard of Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk

) 17:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Next Steps After "Publishing"

I created a Wiki article for a nonprofit organization that I founded and ran from 1995-2009 (the organization dissolved in 2010). Because I am a conflicted editor as its founder, I'm wondering what I should do after pressing "Publish Changes"? I read that "Now it's time for you to move the article from your personal userspace (as a subpage) to Wikipedia mainspace (where the real articles are)"* but I don't think I can do that as a conflicted editor. The name of the article is Stages of Learning and its page is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Floydrumohr

Does any one have any advice? Many thanks for any help about what to do next.

- My username is Floydrumohr

• Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Editing, creating, and maintaining articles/Creating a new article Floydrumohr (talk) 16:48, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Stages of Learning

@Floydrumohr: Just leave your draft as is. You've already submitted it for review, so another volunteer will come along and check if it's up to Wikipedia's standards. Be patient, as there's a lot of drafts to review, and they're done in no particular order. That being said, you need to make the paid contributor declaration on your userpage at User:Floydrumohr, not your draft. I've gone ahead and moved it for you. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 17:25, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: Thanks for your help in moving my article to review. I hope you get this post -- I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly. You mentioned that I need to make the paid contributor declaration on your user page at User:Floydrumohr, not your draft. What does that mean? I think I already disclosed that I am the founder of the organization but I have not been paid to create the Wikipedia article. Floydrumohr (talk) 18:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Floydrumohr, I've moved your reply to the right section here: you added it to a different section at the end of the page. --ColinFine (talk) 18:10, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

How do I know whether My Wikipedia account is autoconfirmed ?

I have heard that Autoconfirmed is a user group that is automatically given to registered user accounts that are more than 4 days old and have made at least 10 changes. I have a bit confused about changes and contributions, is no of changes is the same as no of contributions, and how do I know whether my account is autoconfirmed. Thank You. Nameisthor (talk) 17:51, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk∕_Contribs

18:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

(

Semiprotected

articles; but again, an inexperienced editor would be well advised not to try doing so, but to continue making request on articles' talk pages.

On the browser version, you can find out whether you have autoconfirm or any other rights by picking "Preferences" at the top. I don't know if there is a way to do it on the app. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ColinFine (talk • contribs) 18:23, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Adding a DFC recipient's name to the following Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Recipients_of_the_Distinguished_Flying_Cross_(United_States)

My father-in-law was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross (DFC) from the US Air Force and I want to add his name to the Wikipedia page noted in the Subject box above. I have documentation in a pdf file (his original Distinguished Flying Cross certificate) that proves he was a recipient of this award.

I have no clue how to add his name (Francis W. Belanger) to the the list of DFC recipients on the following Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Recipients_of_the_Distinguished_Flying_Cross_(United_States)

Please help. This should be a simple task, but it appears that I do not have access to add a name to the list of recipients. I set my preferences to use the VisualEditor whenever it is available, but that did not give me access to add a name to the list of DFC recipients.

Also, I do not see how to attach a pdf file to this message which contains proof that he is a recipient of the DFC award. He was awarded the DFC on the 11th of October in 1970 accorinf to his DFC certificate.

This is very frustrating, but perhaps Wikipedia editing should not be user friendly for obvious reasons.

Professor Elsdon ProfessorElsdon (talk) 05:43, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

primary source which is great for fact-checking, but it shouldn't be the only type of sourced used; secondary sources are recommended. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 06:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@ProfessorElsdon: In other words, the category is not meant to be a list of recipients of the DFC, but instead a list of articles about such people in this encyclopedia. The category has 1,243 articles. According to this site, "No one knows how many DFC’s were awarded but The Distinguished Flying Cross Society has over 6,200 recipient members with possibly thousands more eligible to join our prestigious and elite Society." —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:37, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

László Heltay

Hello, I submitted this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:L%C3%A1szl%C3%B3_Heltay for review, but it was rejected; the reason given was "All sources appear to be about his death." Given that these sources were, in the main, obituaries in world-renowned newspapers, or entries in authoritative works of reference (e.g. Who's Who) I do not understand what the issue is, nor can I see what else I have to do to get this article approved. Can anyone advise me? Thanks! simontcope (talk) 09:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

4thfile4thrank. I will say that I disagree with his reasoning. The sources aren't "about his death", they are obituaries. Obituaries in sources such as The Guardian, The Telegraph and The Times are well-researched, reliable, and authoritative, and provide excellent sources. Maproom (talk

) 10:15, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Slim cop:. At first sight, this looks to be a seriously flawed decline rationale, as there are a number of national media obituaries upon which this article is based upon. I would be happy to move it to mainspace myself. It's fair to say this decline was made by a brand new reviewer, so I'm pinging Primefac just so that they're aware of any guidance that might need to be given. Nick Moyes (talk) 12:50, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Update: Noting that concerns have just been expressed that the draft did contain serious copyright violations which do need addressing. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:24, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Glad to see that the issues have been resolved. Original reviewer has been placed on our "probationary status", meaning if such declines continue they will be removed from the project (either contact me on my talk or at

WT:AFC to indicate this needs to happen (if you're not an admin, in which case just do it). Keep in mind this is not retroactive, so please don't go trawling through their past declines. Primefac (talk

) 19:42, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Illegally photographed images

Does Wikipedia allow images that have been illegally or unauthorizedly taken?

For example, if someone went inside a religious building, and took pictures and/or videos, when photographs and/or videos are not permitted, then publishes them, does that go against Wikipedia's policy? 

talk

) 22:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@Matthew.weller: Maybe. This appears to be about photos inside LDS temples, which sounded familiar to me. See the two deletion discussions linked to at c:File talk:Salt Lake Temple Garb In Sealing Room.jpg. There are probably other such discussions both here and on Commons if you search. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 22:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Some articles may include images, text, or links which are relevant to the topic but that some people find objectionable, but Wikipedia is

not censored. Theroadislong (talk

) 23:01, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:NOTCENSORED.  Nick Moyes (talk

) 01:47, 5 December 2020 (UTC)    

This isn't entirely accurate! Commons does not allow images that breach copyright, but there are many cases where this is not the issue. For example very old artworks in museums or other places have no copyright, but photography of them may not be permitted (especially if flash is used). However breaching this is usually an offence of trespass only (or the local legal equivalent), and Commons will (or should) accept the photos - there are many uploaded. But wikipedians should certainly avoid breaching the rules, especially where flash can damage the objects. Johnbod (talk) 18:56, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Matthew.weller and Nick Moyes: I said "maybe", given the subject and the location (i.e. the influence of the LDS church and its members is substantial in Utah law). It may well be that there are Utah state or SLC local laws that deny "freedom of panorama" inside LDS temples and other places, though the previous discussions that I referred to apparently did not look for, or did not find, them, as they resulted in "keep". Anyway, that is the avenue along which to proceed – find something with the force of law that makes taking or publishing the pictures unlawful and then propose deletion of the images based on that. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:41, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Were the images taken in a publicly accessible religious building, or in a religious building to which access is restricted to the qualified faithful? It is my understanding that LDS temples are mostly limited as to who is admitted to them, and in that respect they differ from religious buildings that are open to the public. If so, and if the rules prohibit the taking of photographs by persons who were admitted for religious purposes, then that may be legally different than unauthorized photography in a chapel or sanctuary that is open to the public. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Files

President's Day, by Loudon Wainwright. Some listeners may wish to replace the word "George" with "Donald".

---

Problems playing this file? See media help.

Xanderman016: I want to upload music on my profile page, but Wikipedia isn't letting me. Why? Xanderman016 (talk) 13:13, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@Xanderman016: Why would you want to do that - we're building an encyclopaedia, not running as music station! Anyway, most music will be copyright so you can't release it for free here yourself, as you don't own it. However, there are already some free music files already on Commons that you could embed, and which will play if you click them. Like the one from my favourite musician that I've included here. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:30, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Quote from your user page: "So, I created this to promote my Scratch account and to post my book here. I guess I can also use this to promote my followers." I deleted it. Welcome to Wikipedia. It's an encyclopedia. It's not a free web host. -- Hoary (talk) 13:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry

WP:USERPAGE for guidance on what is permitted and what isn't. Roger (Dodger67) (talk

) 13:31, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

You're also not allowed to use your sandbox to create a draft for something that you hope will drum up interest in the project you're working on. I deleted that too. Now, if you'd care to improve existing articles on subjects to which you're not related, basing your improvements on reliable, published sources independent of anyone you're writing about, you're welcome to stay. Years from now, others may publish material about your writings, and others again may use this material to create Wikipedia articles about your writings. -- Hoary (talk) 13:51, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Xanderman016: That was MY profile page! Why can't I do that on MY profile page!? Whatever happened to freedom of speech!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanderman016 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not have "profile pages." It has articles about notable people. Freedom of speech is one thing, freedom to publish at other than social media is entirely another. Regardless of what you think can be on your User page, Wikipedia:User pages says otherwise. David notMD (talk) 16:16, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@

tildes, like this: ~~~~, which will be automatically converted to your username and timestamp (a "signature"), like I've done here: —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 00:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Harry Fear

 Courtesy link: Draft:Harry Fear

Draft:Harry Fear Hello, can someone please view my draft and tell me if there is any adjustments needed before submitting it. Thanks in advance. Engy Badawy (talk) 22:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

His own blog and Twitter (refs #5 and #7) cannot be refs. David notMD (talk) 01:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

How to edit?

How do i edit wikipedia? Chevytruckps (talk) 02:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk

03:08, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Donations

Hi, I would happily make a big lifetime contribution to Wikipedia if they would quit asking me for donations every time I log in at the end of the year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.176.151.21 (talk) 00:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

IP editor, Wikipedia cannot tell if the person at the other end of an IP is the same person as the one that used it the day before. The best thing for you to do is to create an account and adjust your preferences to disable the banner. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

That's funny, they only ask me for donations when I'm NOT logged in. Bookmark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin and you won't have to worry about those pesky messages. Oh wait, I see you aren't logged in so, yeah, register for an account and set your preferences. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I'm always logged in and I never see requests for donations. I think they only show those messages to readers, not editors. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

One would hope so. There's also a "Suppress display of fundraiser banners" option in the gadgets menu to be doubly sure that they won't appear. Zindor (talk) 00:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Side Note:These banners also show when logged in, as I saw the other day using Victor Schmidt mobil, unless you have taken steps to hide them (the afroamented gadget is one option) Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:57, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

A doubt

I nominated

WP:AFIL.--Atlantis77177 (talk

) 07:18, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Atlantis77177 While AFIL might find help, more up to you to improve this article, which in my opinion is fatally flawed, as the only ref about Toffan is an obituary. All the others are about horses he trained, with only minimal mention that he was the trainer. Delete all the descriptions of actual races and the the horses' deaths and there is no article left. David notMD (talk) 11:27, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Help with submitting article

I have written a bio about my Grand Uncle (one of the founders of early American silent film comedies). It is in my sandbox. I thought I submitted it for review but I never head anything back so now I'm not sure. Can someone help me verify that I am proceeding correctly? Gwlnl (talk) 10:08, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Draft:Louis Anger. Theroadislong (talk

) 10:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Excellent effort by a new editor. Given family connection, you should state on your User page that Louis Anger was your grand-uncle. This is about Wikipedia's policy of declaring conflict of interest

WP:COI. However, in my opinion your create a neutral point of view draft. I took the liberty of a bit of copy editing. David notMD (talk

) 12:27, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

The images are a critical issue, as clearly, most of these are not your "own work" (you were not the photographer). David notMD (talk) 12:30, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Wish to add to the vaccine page. It seems to be protected.

I'm provax and have had too much experience on twitter and facebook re:vax mis info, etc. I wish to edit the vaccine page to reference the long history of vaccination starting in 1796. Example:14 diseases defeated by vaccination https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/diseases/forgot-14-diseases.html. This may differ from the wiki page that covers this issue. Here is the CDC article https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/prinvac.pdf This site gives the best reference re:vaccinations.Bgordski (talk) 08:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC) Bgordski (talk) 08:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@Bgordski: Wikipedia has many articles on vaccines. Which one are you referring to? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 08:26, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Note, Bgordski, that the basic page on vaccine has a history section that goes back to the 10th century and covers much else. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

What if you find something obviously strange in a reliable source

I found a strange article in the AMS(american mathematic society)journal archive. My simple question is that would I be violating some policies if I contribute the fact to the related talk page. To me, it's as simple as 1+1=2, and I believe almost all highschool teachers (and some smart students) can easily understand my points within 10 minutes. It's just that simple. It's (in my opinion) an important article, because it's related to the current (practically one of the)fastest (yet unproven to be valid)computer algorithm supported by a folklore which originates from the paper(by a famous scientist). It's also directly related to your digital signature security strength(isn't that an important fact?)

Should I leave this obviously wrong history best untouched? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquahabitant (talk • contribs) 07:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

orginal research, which is not allowed in Wikipedia articles. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

08:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Aquahabitant, a reliable source is not always a reliable source. NatGeo sometimes publishes articles that are kinda... eh. The New York Times has published bullcrap. Vice versa, an unreliable source is not always an unreliable source. I am unable to grasp your struggle, but just want to give a related trivia there. GeraldWL 08:59, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I am too coward to write anything to the talk page, so if i am allowed, i would like to do it here. This is a very delicate subject, because many IT funds are believing this (to me, obviously wrong) history, and their beliefs should be very strong, too. The main part of the article is an ALGOL code which is (almost) correct, but the (obviously unchecked) proof part became a famous folklore, and nobody seem to have checked it, and today this (possibly unchecked) proof is used to exaggerated digital risk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquahabitant (talk • contribs) 09:51, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@

reliable sources of your own backing up your claims. If that gets reverted, then you'll have to sort it out on the talk page. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!

) 13:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Delete misspelled November 1866 redirect (Novembe 1866)

I accidentally created a misspelled redirect for

November 1866, known as Novembe 1866. Please can someone get it removed? I can't see an option for it. Childishbeat (talk

) 13:49, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Redirection is called "moving", for some reason. If you can create it, you can move it, to "November 1866". This is just one of many similar redirects you've created:

July 1866 is another. Has anyone else said that their creation would be helpful? -- Hoary (talk

) 13:56, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I moved it, but it kept the old redirect. I still ask for the old redirect to be removed, and for consistency across the similar redirects I've created. Childishbeat (talk) 14:06, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I've tagged the page for deletion. Regards, Zindor (talk) 14:48, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

And I have now deleted the erroneously-named redirect, although they could have requested a CSD themselves. But I really see no value in making such pointless redirects, and I have told User:Childishbeat to desist until they have explained their rationale and gained consensus (or shown a prior consensus) to do this.

@

WP:RfD, as these myriads of month/year redirects only seem to serve to clog up notable entries in the drop-down search results with pointless and irrelevant results, and with no real user gain. Nick Moyes (talk

) 15:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)  

I didn't know my redirects would clog up these results. Childishbeat (talk) 15:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Nick Moyes, I think that these redirects, however well intentioned, are a net minus. But I am of course willing to be proven wrong. Yes, I think they should be nominated for deletion. If that's closed as "keep", work on them can be continued; in the meantime, I think Childishbeat should pause. -- Hoary (talk) 13:26, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

How to create internal page for individual journal

Hi there. I have been working on a WP article for a journal called Frontiers in Nutrition (you can see the article

Frontiers in Nutrition redirects to the list of journal on the main Frontiers page. There is a hat at the beginning of that page mentioning that several "Frontiers in..." journal redirect there, though some of the journals do have their separate pages (e.g. Frontiers in Psychology or Frontiers in Physics). So my question is how do I go about creating a separate article? Thanks in advance! Youllneverwalkalone2019 (talk

) 14:27, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Youllneverwalkalone2019, and welcome to the Teahouse. The answer, for the moment, is, Don't worry about it. If you submit your draft for review (I added a "userspace draft" header, with a button to do so), and it is accepted, the accepting reviewer will sort out the redirection.

Much more pressing is the fact that, like many inexperienced editors who try the extremely difficult task of writing a new article, you have gone about it back to front. Creating an article starts by finding independent sources which discuss the subject at some depth - because until you find those, all work you put in is at risk of being wasted. At present you have not a single independent source with

your first article. --ColinFine (talk

) 14:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your help ColinFine. If you have a look at typical WP pages for individual journals, you will see that proper indexing in major databases is generally enough to establish notability. I appreciate you adding the button to submit a draft, and I am going to go through this route, but please note that that this is not my first article. My question was how to do this operation myself (also so that I can learn something new about WP). If you know the answer to that, I'd appreciate you explaining. Youllneverwalkalone2019 (talk) 09:47, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Sorry,

Frontiers in Nutrition by your draft, yes? There are two ways. Either you go to the redirect page (by picking that link and then picking the link in the "redirected from" message at the top) and editing it to remove the redirect, and add your own content instead. If you're copying from a draft, that is technically copying within Wikipedia, but as long as nobody else has contributed to the content you're copying, there are no licensing issues. The second approach is to use WP:requested moves to ask an admin to move your draft over the redirect. --ColinFine (talk

) 13:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

That's precisely what I was asking ColinFine, thanks a lot for your clear and articulate reply - very appreciated!

can somebody help me please/من به کمک نیاز دارم

Hey there I am a new member of Wikipedia and I really need this page translated in English but Wikipedia doesn't let new members to translate so can you please translate this page for me actually I translated it in English but I couldn't publish it, so I saved it as a public draft This is the link of the Wikipedia page in Persian:https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%87_%D9%86%D9%85%D9%88%D9%86%D9%87_%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%AA%DB%8C This is the link of my public draft:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Governmental_leading_high_school If you can help me It means a lot to me thank you for taking your time to read this

سلام ، من عضو جدید ویکی پدیا هستم و واقعاً به این صفحه ترجمه شده به زبان انگلیسی احتیاج دارم اما ویکی پدیا به اعضای جدید اجازه ترجمه نمی دهد ، بنابراین لطفاً این صفحه را برای من ترجمه کنید ، در واقع من آن را به انگلیسی ترجمه کردم اما نمی توانم آن را منتشر کنم ، بنابراین من آن را به عنوان پیش نویس عمومی ذخیره کردم این پیوند صفحه ویکی پدیا به زبان فارسی است:https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%87_%D9%86%D9%85%D9%88%D9%86%D9%87_%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%AA%DB%8C این پیوند پیش نویس عمومی من است:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Governmental_leading_high_school اگر می توانید به من کمک کنید برای من معنی زیادی دارد متشکرم که وقت خود را برای خواندن این مقاله اختصاص دادید

Can someone review my draft(Persian to English)

This is the link of my draft can you please check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Governmental_leading_high_school — Preceding unsigned comment added by ROSE1820 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Wikipedia doesnt operate on deadlines. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 17:07, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

@

^Talk

17:19, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

And indeed, ROSE1820, I suggest you read notability and citing sources. Articles without citation to reliable sources independent of the subject are extremely unlikely to be accepted. Sources in Farsi are acceptable if there aren't English ones; as long as they are reliable sources. Note that just because an article is accepted in another edition of Wikipedia does not mean it will automatically be accepted in English Wikipedia, as each edition has its own rules and policies. --ColinFine (talk) 18:01, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

it is title mistranslated and add news from google.Baratiiman (talk) 13:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Elize Cawood 1952 - 2020

There is an incorrect photo on the page that the family would like removed and replaced 196.250.128.184 (talk) 15:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to The Teahouse, I have removed the photo not because the family want it removed, but because it is a VERY poor quality illustration. Theroadislong (talk) 15:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Barossa Valley, South Australia

I'm new and not likely to be a regular editor. WOuld you please edit the Barossa Valley page for me. In part it reads, QUOTE The Barossa Valley is a rich source of some of the oldest Shiraz vines in the world. Shiraz vines planted as early as 1847 by Johann Frederick August Fiedler on Lot 1, Hundred of Moorooroo (the township of Tanunda) are still in commercial production today by Turkey Flat Vineyards.[16]

Please edit to include the correction as outlined in this extract from The Weekend Australian.

Bethany Road, 'Ancestor' vineyard, Turkey Flat winery QUOTE The vines were part of an experimental vineyard of more than 70 varieties planted by Johann Fiedler in 1847 in order to see which ones would prove most suitable in this strange new land, Fiedler was the son in law of Pastor Kavel, leader of a congregation of Silesian Lutherans escaping persecution in their native Prussia whose influence is still so strongly felt in the Barossa [Valley] today.... and the vines he planted are most likely second only to the vines planted by Christian Auricht at nearby Langmell in 1843 as the oldest viable shiraz vineyards still in production … “These old vineyards, the oldest still productive vineyards on the planet, pre-dating the destruction by phyloxera of European vineyards and subsequently still on their own roots, ….” [Emphasis added] UNQUOTE Source: The Weekend Australian Magazine, 14-15 November 2020, p24

Thank you for your help Ralph Schwer Ralph Schwer (talk) 15:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Ralph Schwer, you're going to want to discuss this over at Talk:Barossa Valley. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Book

Um... So, I told some people on other websites about my book here before it was deleted. I moved my book to another website yesterday, and I'm wondering if I could post the link to it for a short while so people know that it is not available here anymore? Xanderman016 (talk) 19:35, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

No, per same answer on your Talk page. David notMD (talk) 19:40, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Darn... I told some people to find it here before this happened. I will find some way to do it! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanderman016 (talk • contribs) 17:05, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Rollback?

Hi, I noticed that we have a tool named Twinkle to let autoconfirmed users rollback other's edits. But we have a right named rollbacker to let you rollback other's edits. So if I'm not a rollbacker but I uses Twinkle to rollback other's edits, will I get blocked?

  Larryzhao|Talk|Contribs 16:47, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi there.

Requests for permissions/rollback if you wish to do so. Happy editing! PlanetJuice ^{(talk • contribs}

) 16:53, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Larryzhao123, whoops! PlanetJuice ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:57, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

User:PlanetJuice Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Larryzhao123 (talk • contribs) 17:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

J. A. Rahim

I am the son of J. A. Rahim and would like to replace the existing article on my father. That article is completely fanciful. Almost nothing of what it says is true and the few facts that are correct are put at the wrong times. I have no idea where this article comes from, but any editing would be a complete rewrite. Please let me know how I can provide a factually correct replacement. Thank you. ALKASSANDER (talk) 17:22, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

verification purposes all content must be in a published, independent reliable source. If the sources currently in the article are summarized accurately, but those sources are incorrect, you will need to speak with the sources directly to issue corrections or retractions. 331dot (talk

) 17:30, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Article on 486958 Arrokoth

I noticed a typo but do not have expertise to edit. The article states that the perihelion of Arrokoth is 43.7 AU, but, in a later sentence it states that New Horizons spacecraft reached it at 43.28 AU. In other words, New Horizons found it CLOSER than perihelion. 75.140.194.170 (talk) 18:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing it out. It appeared to be a typo in our article 486958 Arrokoth: the sources says 42.7212447. I have corrected the error. Generally, the article's talk page (in this case Talk:486958 Arrokoth is a better place for discussing improvements to a particular article. --ColinFine (talk) 19:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Professional Audio - Is creating a page on a Company considered wrong per se?

Hello Community,

I’m Italian and I’m a huge fan of the professional audio world. Together with some geek friends of mine I noticed that there are a few pages missing on Wikipedia that would be interesting for pro audio students and all those who share this passion. These include both technical contents, historical references, special applications and some Italian Companies’ information. These companies are not as well-known as multinationals and famous brands and are important mainly for the niche industry in which they are worldwide main players, for the technological innovations achieved in their history, important collaborations etc. Some existing articles should include references to the new pages we have in mind. So, as far as the new articles have independent notable sources and existing articles cross-references, it shouldn’t be a problem to be able to submit the new articles for approval and have them approved - once possible, of course. I’m wondering whether some of this potential work could be wasted since some of the companies to be involved are small local businesses that became important worldwide in this niche; I don’t want the articles to seem promotional in any way. We just would like to give pro audio students and wannabe professionals some more free and independent information filling a gap that we noticed here on Wikipedia. Thank you for letting me know how likely it is to have issues in this mission!

Best regards fp FedericoPupeschi (talk) 21:16, 6 December 2020 (UTC)  FedericoPupeschi (talk) 21:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

reliable, independent sources that you discover which describe a company. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

21:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

WP:NCORP if you haven't already. --ColinFine (talk

) 21:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk

21:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Referencing PDFs

I'd like to source something to a PDF, but it's not on the web – how do I source the PDF itself? (Sorry if this is confusing, I can provide an example if needed.) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 20:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Greetings

wp:reliable source such as a paper, journal article, newspaper article, etc. If that is the case you can still use it as a reference. Use the Citation tool in the editor. If you use the original editor there should be a "Cite" link at the far right of the top row of the widgets. Click on that and then click on the "Template" link that shows up as the first link in the second row and choose the appropriate kind of reference. But if it is just a PDF that someone wrote but hasn't been published in a reliable source then you shouldn't use it. --MadScientistX11 (talk

) 20:56, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@Skarmory: Is it a PDF of a work that is either 1) published or 2) accessible to the general public or at least to credentialed researchers, such as unpublished letters of a former United States President that would be available to credentialed researchers who make an in-person visit to the Presidential Library for that former President? If so, you can cite it as you would a paper copy of the same material. If it's an unpublished work that is NOT accessible, such as internal company correspondence, or something given to you privately, then it's probably not going to be useful as a source unless a copy can be made available to everyone. Without the ability to access it, the PDF's contents or in some cases the PDF's existence isn't open to verification.

Here's an example: You can cite most US-university Ph.D. dissertations in the last 50+ years because they are available for inspection from the granting institution and/or available for purchase through companies that specialize in such things. However, you probably cannot cite the unpublished schoolwork done by that same graduate student unless it were available through the university's library or another archive, nor could you cite the unpublished work he did for his employer after graduation. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 21:04, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the responses - it's in a reliable source, I'm asking about how to reference the PDF itself, as it's not on the web, but you can download it from the website. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Skarmory. Please provide the link to the website and provide some identifying details re: the source available there as a PDF (my suspicion is that if you can download it through the website, then it does have an accessible URL, which you may not know the trick to learning. Sorry of that sounds presumptuous, but I've seen that exact issue play out before--where learning the URL was a tricky matter; always willing to eat my hat if wrong). Anyway, in my experience, a great deal of the time, a better, tailored answer can be provided once the specifics are provided. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

Question (I know, I know, but I still need help)

How do I submit my draft (Queen Iduna) to be created? 

talk

) 20:52, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't want ugliness to be submitted yet, though. Is there was way to submit one and not the other?

talk

) 20:54, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:YFA for finding and citing sources. When you are ready for review, put this on your draft: {{subst:submit}} RudolfRed (talk

) 20:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine: I guess your second question is based on the fact that you have written about two topics on the same page, User:Ex-Borg Seven of Nine/Sandbox? You can't submit one part of a page and not the rest, so you would have to create a new draft page for Queen Iduna (at Draft:Queen Iduna for instance), and submit that. I'm afraid I agree with RudolfRed that the single line and infobox about the character that's currently in the sandbox would not be an acceptable article, so you would need to add more information, based on reliable secondary sources that talk about the character – and also add the sources. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk

21:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Welp, so long, ugliness. I got a message a while back saying g that it was pointless to make it, (see my talk page) but I didn't really want to delete it, it being my only article draft. But I'll delete it now.

talk

) 21:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello,

notable and the article will never be accepted. Secondly, because if the things you happen to write aren't backed up by any sources, they'll probably get removed from the article anyway. --ColinFine (talk

) 21:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine: thanks, I think. It's just kinda tricky to get citations because my parents blocked my browser on my tablet. (To use Wikipedia I have to go into Overdrive and tap and hold any of the words on the page and hit the "Wikipedia" button. It's one of the reasons I read so many random articles, most of which are disambiguation pages.)

talk

) 21:18, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine: Whether you follow your parents rules or not is up to you (I suggest you do), but if you can't find sources then creating articles is not a task you will be able to do. Consider finding other Wikipedia tasks to work on instead, or wait until the rules are lifted on your internet use. RudolfRed (talk

) 21:31, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

No, I mean they literally put parental controls on my tablet. I can't even check the weather anymore, I'm pretty much holding an e-reader.

talk

) 21:34, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Unexpected Behavior of Reference with External Link

I'm cleaning up the page Uniform_Resource_Identifier Some of the references have links that go directly to external sites within the article which isn't the standard. I'm changing them to be standard inline citations with links in the reference section. But working on this in my Sandbos, I'm getting results that I don't understand. In the History>Refinement section I changed a reference to an external site to an appropriate reference. But for some reason the text which as far as I can tell has no link on it still ends up looking and acting like a link. The new code in my sandbox is:

=== Refinement === In December 1994, IETF RFC 1738 formally defined relative and absolute URLs, refined the general URL syntax, defined how to resolve relative URLs to absolute form, and better enumerated the URL schemes then in use.<ref>{{cite web |last1=Berners-Lee |first1=Tim |title=Request for Comments: 1738: Uniform Resource Locators (URL) |url=https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1738 |website=tools.ietf.org/html |access-date=6 December 2020 |date=December 1994}}</ref>

but for some reason the "RFC 1738" text still shows up as a link. In fact I noticed it even seems to be a link here in the text of my question which also isn't formatted as a link! Is there some magic around using the text RFC? See the Refinement section in my Sandbox to see the behavior. I can't figure out why this is happening, is it a bug or is it something wrong with the code I should do differently? --MadScientistX11 (talk) 20:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC) MadScientistX11 (talk) 20:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@MadScientistX11: This is confusing, for sure. RFC is one of the Wikipedia magic links and automatcially produces a link. See Help:Magic_links#RFC, for more info. RudolfRed (talk) 21:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: So it is magic! Seriously, thanks, I'm looking at that article and I'm sure there must be a way to use the text without getting a link. Cheers, --MadScientistX11 (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@MadScientistX11: See the example at the end of a page. I think that this will work: "RFC <nowiki /> 1738" RudolfRed (talk) 21:29, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: That did it! Thanks. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 21:39, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Can an item added to my (user) talk page be deleted?

Hi. When I first joined, a comment was added to my talk page, making unfounded accusations about my first page edits. I would like to remove it from my talk page, not because I feel like I did anything wrong, but because it is the first commentary on my talk page, and I feel like it may negatively impact my reputation in the community.

I have been working hard to contribute and don't wish to see this on my page anymore. It was written without giving consideration to the fact that I was new, and the writer was assuming I was editing in bad faith. Apologies for the length of my post, I just want to be clear as to why I wish to have it removed. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!Mollifiednow (talk) 15:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC) Mollifiednow (talk) 15:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:REMOVED. After looking at the item in question (assuming it's the thread immediately following the welcome message) go right ahead. However, have you considered archiving older items on your talk page instead? Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 16:07, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the info! I appreciate your help. I'll go read how to remove. One question, why would I archive? Is there some benefit to archiving rather than removing? Mollifiednow (talk) 18:31, 6 December 2020 (UTC) Oh! I see why you suggested archive, just read about it... I appreciate you taking the time to help:-) Mollifiednow (talk)

Mollifiednow: I recommend archiving. if you delete it, it will still be visible to anyone who looks at the history of your talk page. By deleting rather than archiving, you make it slightly harder for such a person to find it; but you also raise the suspicion in them that you thought you had something to hide. (The first ever item on my talk page was an admin making an unwarranted accusation. Now, 13 years on, I am very glad I chose to archive it rather than delete it.) Maproom (talk) 22:52, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Rats =-O I tried to follow instructions on how to archive, but wasn't getting anywhere. I don't know if it's because I use an Amazon firepad, (My laptop needs repairs) but I gave up and just deleted it. I guess it's too late for me to change what I did. :-( Thanks for taking the time to try to help me. I do appreciate it. Mollifiednow (talk) 23:00, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Can You Verify This Article?

Hello, would someone help me with this article? Can you verify If this article has verifiable sources? I created it on my sandbox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cookiedough23/sandbox

Thank You Cookiedough23 (talk) 23:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Cookiedough23, I have three simple pieces of advice. Don't capitalise ordinary English phrases, such as "makeup artist". Don't use the word "passionate", it will trigger any reviewer's bullshit detector. You will need reliable independent published sources to establish that the subject is notable: reports of interviews with the subject don't count as independent. Maproom (talk) 23:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. I will update the draft if I find any better sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cookiedough23 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Logan Thirtyacre

{{subst:admin help}}
The page Logan Thirtyacre is currently blocked from creation so there is currently no way to redirect it to SuperMarioLogan without assistance from an administrator. TrevortniDesserpedx (talk) 22:11, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Pinging protecting admin Ohnoitsjamie. SuperMarioLogan was unprotected to have the article moved there from draft by ToBeFree — IVORK _Talk 02:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

It can be unprotected if the article survives the AfD nomination. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 03:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Change username

Hi! Sorry, but I am just trying to figure out how to change my username is all  

talk

) 06:38, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Rachelmarie24. You can find out more about username changes at Wikipedia:Changing username. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Footnote question

I have been doing a bit of work on the Eureka Flag article and I have a question. You will see that footnote 35 has been used number of times. But how do you deal with a situation such as in footnote 101 where the reference is nested within another reference? Robbiegibbons (talk) 07:25, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:RS. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 07:36, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

como pasar videos para yuotube

 OSONEGROOSOPANDAOSOELGEY (talk) 07:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

OSONEGROOSOPANDAOSOELGEY, este es un foro sobre wikipedia, no sobre youtube. Para descargar un video a YouTube, haga clic en el ícono de descarga y envíe el video que desea enviar. (for other editors, he's asking on how to upload vids to youtube). GeraldWL 07:46, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

how to website. Check out YouTube itself for that. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it

reopening a rfc

Hello! I intend on reopening a rfc with the permission of the original discussion's author - do I start it directly below the original posts, or create an entirely new section? Thank you! Bettydaisies (talk) 05:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:RFC#Restarting an RfC. Sometimes an RfC is started but never ends up (for various reasons) resolving anything and just whithers and dies on the vine so to speak; eventually a bot will show up and remove the RfC template and the discussion may then even be archived after a certain amount of time has past. So, perhaps if you could provide a link to the actual talk page where the RfC in question can be found, another Teahouse host can give asses what happened and provide you with some more specific advice. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 07:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Offensive Content

Can someone please review the first line of this article as it is offensive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_festivals_and_holidays 82.26.219.36 (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Reverted. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 08:03, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Point deduction for football league table

Hi, how do you add in point deductions for teams in football league table? Editing Essex Senior League table for 2020-21 but can’t figure out how to add a 6pt deduction for southend manor Platypus88 (talk) 20:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Greetings Platypus88. Sadly, I do not know how to do that either. But unless someone else answers here, you might want to try over at the Wikiproject Football. (btw, consider leaving an edit summary in the future so other Wikipedians can see what you changed more easily!) --LordPeterII (talk) 09:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Need a guide

I need a guide/book for learning the wikitext/wiki-markup language (by mediawiki). Are there any freely available books or websites for learning the complete wikitext/wiki-markup language? 

talk

) 09:38, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Huzaifa abedeen, Help:Cheatsheet has most of the basic markup. Beyond that, most Wikipedia editors just learn through experience or through documentation at specific help pages. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 09:59, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Request for review

Would someone, or even several someones, be available to review the following page. It is my first and seems to be drawing some conflicting opinions. Thanks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playcrafting Naixa (talk) 02:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Naixa, the page is queued in the new pages feed, and will receive a review from a new page patroller in the next few weeks. There's also some chance it might be nominated for deletion before then, given it's already had a speedy deletion attempt and a draftification which you reverted. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 10:05, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks (talk) 02:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Article posting

How to post articles online RIPU D SINGH (talk) 10:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

new user tutorial

.

However, if you still want to attempt to create a new article, you should first read

Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for someone else to look at before formally placing it in the encyclopedia. 331dot (talk

) 11:08, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

What do I do with an article idea

I think there is an article that should be added to Wikipedia I don't know what to do, should I propose it in some way? Or should I just start one? FatSheeep (talk) 11:02, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse,

Wikipedia's notability guidelines first, because if it doesn't then the article won't be accepted. Cordless Larry (talk

) 11:11, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Asteroid Mining Corporation

Hello there, my name's Ian Winiarski, and I'd like to talk to you about my draft article that I have written that you have repeatedly rejected. I have written an article draft regarding the Asteroid Mining Corporation, however you have stated that it is not notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia, I don't know if you'll change you mind on this, but I will still point out the flaws in your argument nonetheless. My first example is another company focused upon space resource extraction, the Shackleton Energy Company. In this Wikipedia which was in fact approved that regards a company focused on extracting resources from space, there are thirteen sources, many of which barely or don't at all mention the Shackleton Energy Company. My draft article regarding the Asteroid Mining Corporation, which you have rejected twice, has seventeen sources, and likely more to come, all of which are focused upon the subject of the Asteroid Mining Corporation, and don't just have passing mentions of the Asteroid Corporation. Another example that I will bring up is Deep Space Industries, which is in fact another example of a space resources company. Coincidently, the Wikipedia article regarding Deep Space Industries also only has thirteen sources, many of which barely or don't at all mention the company. Given the evidence that I provided, it is clear that the article draft I have written regarding the Asteroid Mining Corporation does in fact deserve approval. It has seventeen sources and many more to come that are specifically focused upon the Asteroid Mining Corporation, given the other two examples I have provided, them being Deep Space Industries and the Shackleton Energy Company, it is clear that the article I have written regarding the Asteroid Mining Corporation deserves approval. However regardless of what I believe to be a large mistake, I thank you for your input on the article draft that I have written. All input is much appreciated, and serves for the betterment of the article draft regarding the Asteroid Mining Corporation that I have written, and will play a key role in providing readers with a better article when this article is eventually approved, whenever that may occur. The link for my article draft regarding the Asteroid Mining Corporation and the links for Deep Space Industries and the Shackleton Energy Company are below. I hope you take what I have stated here into some consideration, and even if you don't, I thank you for reading this.

- Ian Winiarski

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Asteroid_Mining_Corporation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Industries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shackleton_Energy_Company --— Preceding unsigned comment added by IanWiniarski (talk • contribs) 2020-12-06T18:33:47 (UTC)

Hello,

OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. The fact that you may have found a couple of the thousands and thousands of substandard articles has no bearing on whether a new one will be accepted or not. Feel free to improve the existing articles, or nominate them for deletion if their subjects are not notable. --ColinFine (talk

) 20:00, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Asteroid Mining Corporation was Rejected (stronger than Declined) and then resubmitted by an editor other than the one who created the draft, with only minor changes in the interim. I agree with the Rejection. Massive amounts of text in the draft are there to justify the concept of asteroid mining. These are not relevant to AMC. The first ref, used 16 times, is by AMC. Wikipedia only cares (and allows) content written by others about a company, not what the company says about itself. Ref quantity is meaningless, and in fact Wikipedia dissuades over-referencing. In my opinion, the only chance for this draft is to blank everything and start fresh. David notMD (talk) 20:27, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Articles contain only what has been, not what is planned. David notMD (talk) 21:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi

notability

.

Ideally, then, a good draft would be what would present if someone with no familiarity with Asteroid Mining Corporation, and couldn't care less about promoting it, decided to write only what the could learn by looking at those types of independent sources – possibly, just possibly filling in minor gaps, for utterly straightforward details that present no analysis, opinions, or synthesis, with primary sources.

That is not at all how the draft presents. Let's take a look at the 17 current sources cited. Respectively, in order of their use:

1. primary source
   has limited use;
2. Does not mention the draft topic at all ("DNMTDTAA");
3. Youtube video by CEO of company and NIS;
4. NASA source – DNMTDTAA;
5. Physics World – a brief mention, i.e., non-substantive treatment ("NST"), followed by a quote from CEO, i.e., NIS;
6. CGTN – seemingly fair source; appears at first blush independent; real news organization; has some substantive content that isn't, on its face, regurgitated press release material
7. verification
   );
8. Listing site of related companies – regurgitates companies' own material – useless NIS;
9. Repeat of source 7;
10. "Error 521"; "Web server is down";
11. WP:TWITTER
    ;
12. Own Facebook (currently says "The link you followed may be broken"); – useless NIS;
13. Tech Times – seemingly fair source; appears at first blush independent; has some seemingly usable content;
14. Academic paper – DNMTDTAA;
15. Space.com article – DNMTDTAA;
16. Digital Trends article – seemingly fair source; appears at first blush independent; has some seemingly usable content;
17. Crunchbase; mere listing, NIS; NST.

Okay, so as you see, there are three sources above that may be useful for a decent write up. They are buried among the others—for content that mostly should not be included. If, with great discipline, you were to pretend to be the type of independent writer I spoke of above, and started essentially from scratch, citing just these three sources and others like it, for a completely neutral write-up of only what they verify, the draft might have a decent chance of acceptance. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

IanWiniarski, to summarise what Fuhghettaboutit says: You've got three (probably) good sources there. If you want your draft to get through review, make sure the overworked reviewer looks at them. Don't hide them in a pile of garbage. Maproom (talk) 23:03, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

As the reviewer, I'd also just like to point out that this is the third version of this page that has existed within the past week or so. Versions 1 and 2 were speedily deleted around several days ago, and this third version is pretty much a carbon copy of the previous versions. Curbon7 (talk) 02:54, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft deleted and submitting editor blocked. David notMD (talk) 14:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Edit war

I recently came across cases of disruptive editing on several historical articles. The user makes incorrect ideological edits, using sources already used or adds questionable sources for these purposes. He doesn't discuss his edits after reverting, but simply does them again.

I read the recommendations of Wikipedia, but I still didn't understand what I supposed to do. I would like to know the position of experienced participants on this matter. Please, explain what I have to do in such situations. Also, rate his and my actions and make a revision (if needed).

Revision histories:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soviet%E2%80%93Japanese_border_conflicts&action=history
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol&action=history KiL92 (talk) 16:42, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

You Canhthuy9 and Kil92 are in or on the verge of having edit war on three articles, which can lead to being temporarily blocked. Kil92 recommended going to the Talk pages of the articles in question to start discussions on how to resolve the disputes, including fact that one of the sources you cite is being described as unreliable. That is the correct follow-up. David notMD (talk) 20:04, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. Yes, I suggested moving on to the discussion. I want to know what to do if Canhthuy9 continues his/her activity without consensus. Then his/her edits can be regarded as vandalism? KiL92 (talk) 22:16, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Edits in good faith are not considered vandalism, but there are other ways to ask for help with a disruptive editor. David notMD (talk) 23:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

What ways? Please clarify. KiL92 (talk) 00:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Canhthuy9 and Kil92 Wikipedia:Edit warring details what is and what is not edit warring, and how to register a problem with Administrators. Be aware that filing a complaint can boomerang back to the person filing. Strongly recommend trying to resolve on Talk pages of articles first. If it does go to Administrators, they want to see efforts were first made to resolve the problem. David notMD (talk) 14:54, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia 1.0 Server

I've tried using my wikiproject's table containing lists based on importance and quality, and over the last few days I've been completely unable to get the lists of articles to load or anything else for that matter. Is the server down or something? Am I doing something wrong on my end? I'm currently working on the Wikiproject Podcasting. TipsyElephant (talk) 14:31, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant: I assume you mean that. I investigated, and it seems like that webserver is down. However, That tool is not provided by the Wikimedia Foundation which hosts Wikipedia, so I assume we cannot help you. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Contact Editor who removed my article

Eddie891 removed my article. How can I contact him to find out why and get him to reinstate it? GeorgeSanders1008 (talk) 04:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@GeorgeSanders1008: You can leave that user a message at User talk:Eddie891 RudolfRed (talk) 04:24, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

article mainspace. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 05:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

GeorgeSanders1008, I am an editor who has visited the Mount Shasta region many times, and have hiked extensively on its slopes. I made it to the summit by the West Face Gully route in 2007 at age 55, a grueling and gratifying experience. I am in complete agreement with the deletion of this article, because this person is not notable. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:30, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd pretty much agree with Fuhghettaboutit above. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello

How to block an ip address ? EOLE79 (talk) 16:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Ask a admin on their talk page and give a reason. TigerScientist (talk) 16:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:RFPP RudolfRed (talk

) 16:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

TigerScientist / RudolfRed Thx :)

I'am an new ! EOLE79 (talk) 16:32, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

1918 Influenza Pandemic edit/additional information

Hi. I wanted to edit/add additional information on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu?action=edit to add Disproportionate mortality males vs female. How do I get access to add my information? Lfay002 (talk) 16:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Make sure you cite your new info and it is reliable. TigerScientist (talk) 16:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@Lfay002: The page is semiprotected, but your account should be able to edit it. What problems are you having? RudolfRed (talk) 16:38, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi

verify your additions (without copying the wording used). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 16:50, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

backlink

how can i put back links in wikipedia Versatileabacus (talk) 16:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Math article for example. RudolfRed (talk

) 16:50, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

If you are in visual editor, there is a linking symbol and select a word and it will give some articles to select from TigerScientist (talk) 16:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Student's Sandbox Content Deleted

Hello, I am writing to see if I can get some additional information on my student's (User:KS2812) sandbox content which was deleted because of copyright concerns. There seems to be a misunderstanding as the student was simply updating material from the existing Philosophy of Biology article and was doing that work in his sandbox before moving it over to mainspace. The copyright issue referenced is actually an error because the website mentioned actually copied the article text from Wikipedia (not the other way around). We are trying to recover the lost material from KS2812's sandbox and cannot seem to locate it. Could you please advise? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Amyc29 (talk) 15:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC) Amyc29 (talk) 15:19, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:CWW rules must be followed. That is, the user must say that they copied the page from the Wikipedia article. RudolfRed (talk

) 15:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

It looks like User:KS2812/sandbox was deleted by Jimfbleak as a copyright violation of [8]. You are probably better off speaking to that admin, although if it significantly copied from that website, it's unlikely it'll be restored, as we cannot store copyrighted material anywhere on Wikipedia. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:37, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

WP:CWW has the details. I've gone ahead and already made an edit summary for the sandbox that indicates this attribution. Hope this helps! Writ Keeper ⚇♔

16:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@Writ Keeper: I added {{Backwards copy}} to Talk:Philosophy of biology to document the finding. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 18:36, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Youtube music video

I was trying to edit a page in Summer Of 69' and I wanted to add a music video link from youtube. But for some reason, a bot named the XLinkBot reverted my edit. I've seen wikipedia editors doing the same, and yet their music video link doesn't get removed from the wikipedia page. Is there anything I can do to prevent the music video link I added to the page from getting reverted? KitsunePV (talk) 18:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:YOUTUBE RudolfRed (talk

) 18:59, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Webtrees

Can this script be setup to track seed breeding? Thanks in Advanced 98.185.199.152 (talk) 14:31, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm confused what you're asking about. The Teahouse, I'll add as well, is for asking questions about how to edit Wikipedia.

^Talk

14:49, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I assume this is about

Computing section of the Reference Desk. --ColinFine (talk

) 19:06, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

How to report a malicious outlink?

I tried to read a referenced source in

Rent control in New York but got redirected to a phishing site. After some more attempts and observations it seems that housingnyc.com has been taken over to redirect to a number of potentially malicious redirect chains. I have marked in all references in that article to the domain as usurped, but I am worried about other pages, and the problem of bad reference urls being taken over in general. Is there a place, maybe a committee or a collective page, where I can report usurped urls and domains? Can we somehow mark a domain as usurped throughout Wikipedia? EdLeMa (talk

) 18:15, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Spam Blacklist. The instructions are at the top of that page and in the yellow box under "proposed additions". I hope that helps. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib)

18:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:URLREQ is the place to report a usurped URL so a bot will fix the existing usage of it. If you can find a new site that the content has been moved to, give that info; otherwise, it will add the Wayback archives to the cites and mark them with |url-status=unfit.

I'll note in this case, the new site appears to be https://rentguidelinesboard.cityofnewyork.us , but it has probably been completely re-organized. Good project for someone to update the article and re-cite. —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 19:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Please transclude AfD for me.

Hello, I am a newer editor and cannot transclude this AfD into the log. Please move it into the log for me, thanks. RanDom 404 (talk) 19:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:AFDHOWTO step 2 again. Victor Schmidt (talk

) 20:01, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

i´m sorry that i klene the word

 84.219.207.83 (talk) 20:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Your edit was already reverted [[9]], but please be careful that you preview your edits before saving. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Error in Composer's birthplace

BIRTH PLACE OF A COMPOSER your article on THIAGARAJA,THE COMPOSER IN tAMILNADU,iNDIA SAYS HE WASBORN AND LIVED IN THIRUVARUR THIS IS NOT CORRECT HE LIVED IN THIRUVAIARU HOPE YOU CORRECT THE ERROR SINCERELY G.SOUNDARARAJAN PH.D 2600:1700:3A20:7200:29A8:7A18:51EE:5FBD (talk) 21:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

(Please dont write in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. Its considered yelling) Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:57, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Note: I have taken a look and the post above appears correct. However, fixing the article is not as straightforward as it might seem at first blush, because after looking at some of the sources, it appears the confusion also taints some of them. (I will post to the talk page, and possibly at an appropriate Wikiproject)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:05, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Can i have someone with extended autoconfirm add this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_services

I noticed Element is missing from the list. I don't have edit permissions.

Element (software)

type; instant messenger

focus; Live chat and voice for groups Annemaricole (talk) 21:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome back to the Teahouse, Annemaricole. If you click the padlock symbol at the top of the List of social networking services page, it will take you to the instructions at Wikipedia:Protection policy#extended. If you follow those (the final paragraph in particular), you can make a request on the article's talk page. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Best suggestions to follow

What should be suggestion for new editors, how can they add value and increase their editing skills? How can we create new pages for new projects? Alisha Azeem (talk) 22:01, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Community Portal where there is a list. 331dot (talk

) 22:05, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

How can we see article that solely needs spell checks?  Alisha Azeem (talk) 22:07, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

As I said, the Community Portal has categories of suggested edits. 331dot (talk) 22:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

BCE Premium TV draft

Please help me edit and complete this article about "BCE Premium TV": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:BCE_Premium_TV Bcesoccerus (talk) 20:41, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Declined because the article is extremely short, and because the three references confirm BCE exists, but do not have any lengthy content about it. David notMD (talk) 22:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Protecting my user page

How do I protect my user page from vandalism using twinkle? KitsunePV (talk) 21:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

KitsunePV Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You cannot use Twinkle to protect any page because you do not have admin rights. There does not appear to be a vandalism problem on your user page; page protection is not done preemptively. 331dot (talk) 21:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@KitsunePV: Why do you think someone would vandalize your user page? Nobody but you has edited it, with the exception of a bot that (correctly) removed an invalid protection template. I've been here 13 years and have had my user page vandalized twice, just this year, possibly by the same now-blocked person. Both were reverted by someone else before I even saw them. Focus on positive contributions to the encyclopedia, and you should avoid any such drama. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Error

Hi, I have a problem today, that when I want to go to anybody's contrib page, it says

[X86uswpAAMMAAyLZVygAAAAL] 2020-12-07 22:37:39: Fatal exception of type "Error"

then I cannot see them's contrib. Anybody know how to fix that? Thank you very much.  Larryzhao|Talk|Contribs 22:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:VPT, and describing what's happening (and what operating system you're on, etc.) in as much detail as you can. Hopefully someone there will be able to figure out what's going on. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

22:47, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Sdkb Contrib is good now. But if I go to my pref page it says database locked, its in view-only. Do you have the same problem? Larryzhao|Talk|Contribs 22:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

@Larryzhao123 and GeometryDashFan12: I'd generally wait an hour or four before reporting such problems. They're usually transient and already being worked on by systems people by the time you see or report them. Have a cup of tea, take a walk, or build a snowman, as the case may be. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:19, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

What's an internal error?

Sometimes I go to my contributions page and it says [X86t5gpAAD8AAHYXkdQAAABX] 2020-12-07 22:34:14: Fatal exception of type "Error". Why!? 

talk

) 22:34, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

See

below since another person seems to have had the same issue. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 00:28, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Work and Publisher

For the cite web template, are these two parameters the same thing, or is there a difference between them? For example, if I found a source published by, say, Bleacher Report, is there a difference to use one or the other? If there is, what is it? RolledOut34 // (talk) 00:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

The two are not synonymous. The work is the website that has the source, the publisher is the entity that runs the website. For example, using Ars Technica as an example, the work would be Ars Technica and the publisher would be Condé Nast. This is explained in the template's documentation. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 00:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! RolledOut34 // (talk) 00:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

(ec) @RolledOut34: |work= is usually the only one that is necessary, unless it is ambiguous or not well-known, so if it goes away, we might have a chance of knowing how to find it (less of a problem now that most everything gets crawled by Internet Archive). For {{Cite news}}, it may be more important for offline sources. If, for example, it's a small-town newspaper named something generic (e.g., The Daily Report), you might want to also include |publisher= and |location= to properly identify it. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:34, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Need to know

Does anyone oversee highly-specialized topics to check changes such as these? They are the first two edits by a new user. Is there an easy way to find experts at WP to ask? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/FradSer --LilHelpa (talk) 00:18, 8 December 2020 (UTC) LilHelpa (talk) 00:18, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

assuming good faith that this new editor probably meant well (maybe they're a mathematician?), felt there was a problem, and tried to fix it. New editors like this often starting simply because they notice an error in something they're reading and then try fix. They may be wrong of course, but at least start with the assumption that they mean well. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 00:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Sounds eminently reasonable. --LilHelpa (talk) 00:59, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Keyboard test

ghdfghdgfdhgh 148.75.127.9 (talk) 23:04, 7 December 2020 (UTC) ghgfhdghghghgfhdghghfgghdghgfhdghdgfhghdghdgfhgfh

It looks like your keyboard is still working. Congrats! Do you have a question for the Teahouse about editing Wikipedia? TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:08, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

... and please use the Sandbox for such tests – that's what it's there for. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:22, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I added the section title to the gobbledygook that was strung onto the last question, with some minor passive aggressive snark. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:11, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

References / Press

Hello! The article I created for songwriter/producer Luke Niccoli (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Luke_Niccoli) was denied because it did not included enough references about the individual, even though multiple were included citing his contributions to major pop songs/albums. Do the references need to be about him as an individual to count?

Thank you so much for the help!! Haleymegahouse (talk) 01:29, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:NMUSIC. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

02:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Got it, thank you for your help!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haleymegahouse (talk • contribs) 02:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Real James Bond

I know this may be difficult for you to accept. My great uncle on his deathbed told me his story as a secret agent. It is utterly undeniable that he is the main inspiration to James Bond. One of my edits was removed I suppose for false information. I have a mountain of evidence and I cite the website that I created.

I am not certain that I have a question, except to question your measurement of what is an authentic source. My source is indeed authentic. Chuckxxx (talk) 01:39, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Citing your own website looks incredibly suspect at best. We require that a source be published if we are to use it, among other requirements. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 01:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Chuckxxx, the type of material you have on offer is valuable, even if it cannot be accepted by Wikipedia. Rather than depending on your website to keep it in the public eye, you may be able to find an additional home for your material at an alternative outlet. See also Wikipedia:Directory of alternative outlets.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:38, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Increased rules on articles leading to overzealous article thinning and deletion

I've been a Wikipedian for over 16 years, and I would like to comment here, that over time, many good editors have left due to exhaustion and frustration with what appears to be an ever increasing set of rules being enforced by an overzealous army of editors who seem driven by the unquenchable need to remove every bit of content that they deem unnecessary, non-notable, insignificant, or inadequately cited or sourced to degrees clearly not originally intended by the rules and guidelines. I would dare to say that Wikipedia has become a rather unfriendly place, where the police shoot first, and ask questions later. Sadly. --Thoric (talk) 17:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC) Thoric (talk) 17:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

the village pump (policy). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝

 ) 17:41, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

I agree Thoric. TigerScientist (talk) 18:07, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Bang! What? David notMD (talk) 18:21, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is known to amend its rules and guidelines over time, as it is the world's first ever "Wikipedia". I am probably one of those editors you mention, and can tell you that Wikipedia once wanted to grow (almost) at any cost, but now places more emphasis on quality and encyclopedic tone. Why would that make an editor quit in disgust?--Quisqualis (talk) 02:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Quality edits?

FYI

 – Heading added by Tenryuu.

how do I know why something I added didn't get kept as a quality edit? I edited a page today, but within a few hours it showed that the page had been edited again, and all that content was removed? where are the reasons why it was removed? Economist716 (talk) 04:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:NOTEVERYTHING and WP:Namechecking; so, it's encyclopedic relevance to the general reader seems a bit questionable. If you disagree with that assessment, you're free once again to discuss why on the article's talk page. Why it can be a bit of a shock to have an edit reverted, it's really quite commonplace and as part of the way articles are improved over time. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 05:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

(ec) @

PING the user (e.g., by starting your message with {{Re|Toohool}}). —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 05:36, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Too much detail?

Hi there, I have recently been reading the article on PvZ, and it seems to me that the "gameplay" section has way too much detail. The article itself says it is in the process of a major restructuring, but it seems like that the restructure is actually making the article worse. Should anything be done about this? 185.73.65.98 (talk) 09:21, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

It seems

^Talk

11:37, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Edit Request - New Section - Niall Dunne

Hi, I am trying to add a section to Niall Dunne's Wikipedia page however because of COI (I know Niall and am an employee at the company at which he is CEO) I am unable to make the changes myself. I've created an edit request on his page, I did this a couple weeks ago but there has been no movement or update. Is there something I am doing wrong or could do to make the updates get approved quicker?

Really appreciate any help or tips! Thank you :) SophieStromback (talk) 11:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC) SophieStromback (talk) 11:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

SophieStromback Your edit request was properly made and is pending; as noted in the request box, there are 108 requests pending, so you will need to continue to be patient. 331dot (talk) 11:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your response! I will sit tight :) SophieStromback (talk) 12:20, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi @SophieStromback:, I just took a look at the request. First off, hats off for declaring the COI, that's a lot better than many people around here do. The edit itself reads fine, but I've an issue in that even such a simple claim needs a source to back it up. Is the source for this already in the article? If yes, please point to it so it can be used for an inline citation - if not, please provide a link to the source. (I mean the link you provided [10] certainly is sufficient to prove that he is CEO, but e.g. I don't see the info about the $19 million funding, nor that he has been CEO since 2018.)

PS: Better write links within Wikipedia like this: [[Imperial College London]], and not like this: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_College_London|Imperial College London]]. There's no need for the vertical bar unless you want to change how the link is displayed, like so: an awesome place (which written in markup reads: [[Imperial College London|an awesome place]]) This also works on talk pages, in case that wasn't clear. --LordPeterII (talk) 13:03, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

suggestion for funding Wikipedia

More of a comment than a question. I usually do not give when asked by Wikipedia donor drives since I believe it just burdens those who appreciate the service, but this time I gave the minimum (plus admin cost) since, like everyone else, I really do use it alot. I think Wikipedia should start charging a very small membership fee for use. I think anyone who uses the platform regularly would pay $5-10 per year to have access to the content. You could have special, cheaper student rates too. Just level with people: anything that has value is not free.

best regards Allan 131.111.85.79 (talk) 09:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia's finances are currently stable (though the Foundation is trying to build an endowment to reduce the need for donations in the future) so there is no need to raise funds in such a manner. Wikipedia prefers that the knowledge here be available without cost to the reader. 331dot (talk) 10:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure charging a fee to use Wikipedia would turn down younger viewers and editors alike that don't have access to money. Although most editors are adults, there is a fair share of people who are young, and that would turn down a lot of people that keep Wikipedia stable.

^Talk

11:28, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

An access fee, even though small by first-world standards, would be a significant barrier to access from poorer parts of the world - precisely where we really need to expand participation to reduce systemic bias. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:14, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Editing question

How can I edit the 2017 in Philippine television? Alanconsebido (talk) 09:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk

11:48, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@

Le Panini: I believe the question might be "How". In which case @Alanconsebido: the answer is, like so: Go to the section you want to edit (I assume this one), then click the "edit" next to July. For some technical advice on what to do then, please take a look at Help:Editing. But as Le Panini said, be sure to back up your info with sources! --LordPeterII (talk

) 12:42, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

LordPeterII, Wiat... that says "HOW", not "CAN". Dang. I'm stupid.

"How can I edit?"

"Yes." ~ Le Panini

^Talk

12:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Well, given that it's currently quite popular to answer "How many ...?" with "Yes" [11], I don't blame you ;)

(But seriously, you probably read "who" instead of "how", which would make your answer perfectly legitimate. And confusing these two has happened to me several times as a non-native speaker; and I guess it can happen to natives as well.) --LordPeterII (talk) 13:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Reliable sources for Article

Hello, This is in regards with my draft – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hello_Mini which was rejected due to not using the proper reliable sources. I have checked the sources and found only one reliable - https://www.iwmbuzz.com/digital/editorial-digital/review-hello-mini-erotic-thriller-ends-justifying-stalking/2019/10/07 can you please help me and let me know if it can work. Also, you have rejected the MX player link earlier. But the Hello mini series is available to watch on MX player only. So I can not understand the rejection reason. Though I think it is not promotional. Mathurrajv77 (talk) 13:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I haven't look at the article; instead, I take your word for it that you don't have any reliable source outside the iwmbuzz.com page. I looked at that. Here's how it ends: Also, 15 episodes is too long, especially if you want to promote binge-watching. P.S. I know I went on and on, but kya karen, the exciting series and story deserved a longish explanation. This writing is at the "lazy secondary student" level. It inspires no confidence in the rest of the review. And sure enough, Iwmbuzz is merely a marketer. If you don't have sources that are a lot better than this, you will not be able to create an article on this subject. -- Hoary (talk) 13:40, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Hoary for your time. So in this case, I will check if I can collect some other reliable sources.

Can I add MX Player link or https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/web-series/news/mx-player-drops-the-trailer-of-their-first-psychological-thriller-hello-mini/articleshow/71326257.cms ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathurrajv77 (talk • contribs) 13:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

How to become an active contributor

How does one get to become an active contributor and get to go live on Wikipedia? Pete11DD (talk) 13:48, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

new user tutorial. 331dot (talk

) 13:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes,

here on things to remember when doing biographies of living people. All in all, a great start, and we're here if you need us. Nick Moyes (talk

) 14:33, 8 December 2020 (UTC)  

Tool I can use for

WP:TFDH

Hello. I’m helping out at

Merry Christmas!

) 14:12, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

(Comment: @

WP:AWB might be suggested, but I can offer no direct guidance. Nick Moyes (talk

) 14:40, 8 December 2020 (UTC) )

How to cite

How do you gather reliable sources for citations? Thanks! TheLAXPlanespotter (talk) 03:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Basically,

reliable sources.--Quisqualis (talk

) 03:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:REFBEGIN on how to insert citations once youve found good quality sources. As an aside, I note your userpage is a little misleading. I suggest you remove mention of you not being an admin, but being a bit of a vigilante. With just 8 edits to your name, I'd say you're simply a novice, which is a mighty fine thing to be in and of itself. Nick Moyes (talk

) 12:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

At the request of Nick Moyes, the user page has been updated to reflect a more "current" synonym because vigilante sounds too 1880's. I didn't want to change it, but I decided to because I am not an idiot. (I am referring to myself, not anyone else). Bye for now, and maybe it sounds like I'm not welcome here. :) TheLAXPlanespotter (talk) 15:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Period for consideration

Hi! glad I got your feedback so how long does it take to be given rights to publish upon participating on edit-job on the pre-existing articles? again upon checking my article what significant misdoings did you note kindly thanks Pete11DD (talk) 14:14, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk

14:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

You can edit pre-existing articles now, unless those are semi-protected or protected (a 'lock' symbol, top right). As to your draft Draft:Sarah Serem, keep on adding content and inserting the references you have identified before you submit it to Articles for Creation (AfC). And maybe seek out other articles about Kenyan government officials before submitting. David notMD (talk) 15:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Harry fear

Hello there, I hope you’re all doing well. Can someone please review my article Draft:Harry Fear and tell me if it needs adjustments? I really want it to be accepted. Thanks j advance Engy Badawy (talk) 15:24, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I have declined it there is too much inappropriate content such as "As a teen, he was into photography and mass communication" "His favorite food is Malaysian cuisine" "his favorite country to visit is Egypt" etc etc and poorly sourced. There is also content copied and pasted from https://seribulangkah.com/harry-fear-the-british-journalist-who-will-inspire-you/ which is a BIG no no, all content MUST be in your own words. Theroadislong (talk) 15:36, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Stating his opinions isn't something I'd see in an encyclopedia --

talk

) 16:37, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Shaming me to donate

Why bother me for donations when I already pay a monthly contribution of $3.75? Doesn't your system have the capability of knowing when a true SUBSCRIBER's IP address is searching Wiki? Bobbystar80 (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse,

WP:OTRS send out in response to queries such as yours: Our apologies for the banners causing annoyance or inconvenience. Wikipedia and its sister projects receive over 400 million unique visitors per month, so for fundraising it is important that we keep it displayed during the limited duration of our campaign. To hide the banners, you can click the x in the upper right corner. If you create or already have a Wikipedia account, you can tick the "Suppress display of fundraiser banners" option in your account preferences at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets, which will prevent the banners from displaying. I hope that helps. Cordless Larry (talk

) 16:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Bobbystar80: Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse! We're just editors here, not the Wikimedia Foundation staff putting up the banner. I definitely agree with you it'd be better if the banner were smart enough to recognize when people have donated. There might be some privacy concern involved, idk. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 16:56, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

In general I hate the banner. It is up to the readers/editors whether they want to donate. It's a waste if they ask me to, and I click it and it says that donation is not available in Indonesia. GeraldWL 17:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

• Bobbystar80 The donation system is completely separate from Wikipedia. I think there would be privacy concerns with linking them together. As noted, you can turn off the banner messages in your Preferences. As a fellow editor, thanks for donating. 331dot (talk) 17:07, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Non-English query

eu nn consigo traduzir porcaria nenhuma, eu uso a traducao automatica , edito tudo oq esta errado ai do nada em alguns topicos fica em vermelho ai quando eu vou publicar falam que nn foi permitidp TioAldemir (talk) 16:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to theEnglish Wikipedia, your comment translates from Portuguese as "I can’t translate any crap, I use machine translation, I edit everything that’s wrong there out of nowhere in some topics it’s in red there when I’m going to publish say that it wasn’t allowed" so I'm not sure what your question is? Theroadislong (talk) 16:58, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

(e/c) (Inglês usado abaixo) Oi. Wikipédias em diferentes idiomas têm padrões diferentes para aceitação de artigos, com os padrões da Wikipédia em inglês para atender a sua diretriz de

verification purposes, will also demonstrate the notability of the topic. (I used machine translation to make this post in what I assume is your native language, so I hope it's not too garbled). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 17:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Finding articles to edit

How would i find articles to edit on Wikipedia? Then how would i know if something needs to be edited? Mekeit (talk) 15:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Community Portal has lists of articles that need various edits. 331dot (talk

) 15:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

• @Mekeit: As 331dot said, there are different approaches. You might want to try the WP:Task Center, or click "articles to improve" at the top of this page. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@Mekeit: You may be interested in subscribing to SuggestBot. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:24, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Help

I have tried everything on the Help page for

talk

) 17:48, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. I've done it for you. Take a look at what I added to the article in my latest edit and you'll see the problem, which was that you didn't name the reference at its first occurrence. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:53, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! --

talk

) 17:58, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia

Why I have to edit? Do you mean, the writings are take for granted only? or you're just assuming I am a Scientist? Geebei1988 (talk) 17:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Geebei1988, welcome to the Teahouse. Could you explain further? No one is obligated to edit. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:06, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Persistent timesink (see G's Talk page). No article editing to date, only own User and Talk, Teahouse, and other editors' Talk. Either troll or Wikipedia:Competence is required. Time to block. David notMD (talk) 18:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

And, blocked. Thank you. David notMD (talk) 19:25, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

How can I request an article be written for a restaurant chain?

I would like to add Goodcents to the list of restaurants featured at:

List of submarine sandwich restaurants

After reading about how to create articles, I don't think I'm qualified to do so. Further reading suggests one can request an article be written, but I found the instructions on this topic to be intimidating and complex. I thought it best to simply ask what I should do to request a Goodcents article that I can then link to from the above linked article. Bubbleking (talk) 20:08, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk

) 20:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

If you are associated with this chain(other than perhaps being a mere customer), you will need to review

paid editing. 331dot (talk

) 20:47, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

(

WP:AFC and have reviewers look at the product when you feel like you've done the best you can. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁

) 20:47, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Help finding a template

Salutations teahouse staff, I have returned to pester you (this shouldn't take long though). Does anyone know the template that reads something like "while there are sources in this article it lacks in-line citations"? Because I was just working on an article that could use that. Thanks! SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 15:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@SnazzyInfinity: {{No footnotes}}. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:59, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@Victor Schmidt: Thanks! SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 16:00, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@

talk

) 22:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh yeah I have twinkle, I totally forgot about that! (P.S. GD Fan, I saw your user page earlier and I liked your userboxes and stole a whole ton) SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 23:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Delisting good articles

I'm trying to delist Stephen Fry's Podgrams and I can't figure it out. I'm using this quick tutorial:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_delisting. When I delisted the article on the talk page inside the article history template I couldn't figure out how to include the date I'm delisting it, and I can't figure out how to remove the article from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles/.

I did ask in the talk page and the wikiproject whether it was okay to delist the article, and someone at the wikiproject said it was okay. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:05, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant: I'm going to start by saying that I tend to agree with your concerns about GA status for Stephen Fry's Podgrams, and would probably have graded it C myself. Now, I've not personally been involved in any downward reviewing of any GA articles, but I feel you could have gone about things better.

• First off, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_delisting is marked as historical, so I would tend to ignore anything there, for start. You should be following the 'Individual' process outlined at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment.
• WP:GAR
  explains the process, either of community review or of individual reassessment as you're doing.
• That advice is to raise issues on the Talk page and, after an appropriate period of time for feedback, make the amendments.
• You decided (not unreasonably) that, after attempting to improve it, it's still not worthy of GA status - and I tend to agree with you - and you stated that you were going to change it immediately, and mentioned (here, but not on the talk page) that someone on on a WikiProject somewhere supporting that view.
• Rather unhelpfully, you failed to provide a link to that discussion on the talk page itself, and made the change immediately. But there is
  WP:NO DEADLINE
  , so I think waiting a few days for feedback would have been preferable.
• You only removed the GA quality status from one of the two WikiProject assessments. - You'll need to remove them both for it to have an effect on the grading that appears on the article itself, below the title. But you will also need to remove the {{good article}} template from the bottom of the article page, too.

If I've missed anything out, I hope someone with more experience of GA reassessments will chip in. Bottom line: make sure you're following the right instructions. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:21, 8 December 2020 (UTC)  

(

good articles. Since articles undergo a formal review process for them to be upgraded to GA status, it seems unlikely that such a status could be taken away without a similar review process. I suggest that you follow the advice given in Wikipedia:Good article reassessment and request a reassessment of the article and simply don't just try to delist the article on your own. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 14:23, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Would it be okay to undo all the edits on the talk page and start over so that I do it all right and get the experience? I noticed that Nick Moyes made a recent change, should I undo that as well or is it possible to just undo my changes? The Wikiproject page that I asked the question is here (I'll add it to the article's talk page as well once I decide whether I'm undoing edits or not): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Podcasting#Consensus_Before_Change. Should I ask in all the wikiprojects that are in the article's banner? Nick Moyes Marchjuly

@

WP:BRD) If you do post to seek views on different pages, it's best to direct all comments via a wikilink to just one page, so that all responses are collated there for all to see and respond to. ie. draw them to your post at the article talk page. Good luck. Nick Moyes (talk

) 23:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Question related with Wikipedia timing

So I know there is no time rush on Wikipedia. I got burned a few months ago after asking a question on a talk page, only receiving 1 response (a support) after a 48 hour wait. The article had almost 50 edits done during that 48 hours, so people had chances to reply. When I implemented the change though, tons of people got upset saying I did it too quick. (It was too quick and it was a split proposal and I know that should be a week at least). Too be honest, I was slightly confused why people didn't choose to respond but when the change happened (no one opposing at the time), people got upset.

So I recently asked a question about a new source for an article. I have waiting 24 hours and no responses. (Topic is slightly searched and between the time of my asking the question and now, an article related to it had a closed Afd ending in a merge into this article.

My question is simple. How long should I wait before implementing a change if I hear no responses. I don't want to wait too long, because I would probably forget the change, but if I do it too quick, I don't want to have a ton of people up set with me. Thanks in advance for your responses. 

talk

) 22:23, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:SILENCE. If people object to it, direct them to the relevant discussion at the talk page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁

) 23:15, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Categorization alphabetization

Hello! I was looking at the Category Deaths in police custody in the United States, and I added the Death of Chavis Carter article. But on the category page, it lists that article under the 'D' section. Other pages in that category are under sections by the subject's last name. How is this accomplished? What do I need to do? Kirby777 (talk) 22:56, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I added <s>{{DEFAULTSORT|Carter, Chavis}}</s>. See

Le Panini. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs

) 23:15, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

When putting the [[Category:Deaths in police custody in the United States]] to an article, put {{DEFAULTSORT:Chosen Name}} before any categories to set a default name. In this case, {{DEFAULTSORT:Carter, Chavis}}. It's been put in for you.

^Talk

23:12, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Proper Names

why do some company names show in blue and others in black. Can I make it consistent? IwTbA4EvR (talk) 19:10, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

general guideline, we don't redlink in articlespace (unless it's possible that they're notable). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁

) 19:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:OVERLINK). —[AlanM1 (talk

)]— 00:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

David Burnell IV

Is David Burnell IV a notable subject? David Burnell the Fourth (talk) 20:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

reliable sources? 331dot (talk

) 20:43, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

writing about yourself; it's not prohibited, but is strongly discouraged. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁

) 20:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Another problem: if you ARE NOT David Burnell IV, who appears to be a film actor, you should not have chosen his name as your User name. There is a name change process. If you ARE him, you may be asked to confirm that. David notMD (talk) 01:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

how to send page from sandbox to live

I moved my page from sandbox but after that I got this error please help me with publishing my page live "This sandbox is in the article namespace. Either move this page into your userspace, or remove the {{User sandbox}} template." Repairdental (talk) 23:55, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

It sounds like you didn't remove {{

NoSandboxesHere has done that already. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁

) 00:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC) (Addendum at 00:21, 9 December 2020 (UTC))

Message on your Talk page requires you change your User name, and provides link to method. David notMD (talk) 01:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Requests instead of Reverts

Some wiki articles such as the Notability article (just as an example) state that when an editor feels articles or edits to articles are not suitable (he doesn't like the sources, the content, the length, or other issue) he should either look for sources himself, ask the article's or edit's editor, or ask for input from others. Yet I find that what generally happens is someone will simply, quickly "revert" or reject without taking any of these steps first. Why? And is there a way to try to ensure that happens instead of sudden rejections/declines or reverts? DogBehaviorPro (talk) 21:12, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@

WP:BRD for more info on this. If you see something reverted and you disagree with it, then you can start that discussion. RudolfRed (talk

)

Hi

WP:DR since will likely lead to a resolution that's best for Wikipedia and avoid any problems requiring administrator action. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 04:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Need to publish my article successfully

I need my article to be reviewed and successfully published. I have written a article which is verified by me and need to get my article published. Maverick2554 (talk) 03:33, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm confused. What is the need? I mean, what bad thing will happen if there is a delay? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:35, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

beginner-friendly primer for referencing. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁

) 03:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You have created a draft in your Sandbox User:Maverick2554/sandbox. It has been submitted to Articles for Creation (the large yellow rectangle at bottom). There is a backlog of thousands of AfC drafts. The selection by reviewers is not a queue, so can be days, weeks, up to several months. In its present state it will surely be declined, as it has no references. Verification requires references from reliable published sources. Lastly, you have a duplicate version of your content on your User page. Please delete all of that. Your User page is for a description of your intentions as an editor. David notMD (talk) 03:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

And

there's no possible way we could have an article on them at this time, notable or otherwise. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...}

03:47, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

I declined it as covering the same person and having a large overlap with a declined draft from a few months ago by another editor, Draft:Shalkal Carty. I also moved your "user" page to User:Maverick2554/sandbox2, submitted it on your behalf, and did a "pro-forma" decline as it is almost identical to your draft in User:Maverick2554/sandbox. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:57, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

My article was rejected here. But need to be done in wikitia. Please do help me in wikitia. Maverick2554 (talk) 05:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi

WP:BLACKLISTed by the Wikipedia community. So, you just have to Google the name and then get the link yourself. -- Marchjuly (talk

) 05:21, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Locking Train Robbery article

Hello

I thought someone might want to lock the Train robbery article. It appears people are continually adding the cast of Red Dead Redemption 2 to its list of famous train robbers.

Thanks 84.13.85.156 (talk) 10:01, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

You can follow the instructions at

^Talk

10:47, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor, and thank you for reverting that vandalism. It seems to have ceased now, so the page doesn't merit protecting at this stage. However, I've added it to my watchlist and will keep an eye on it, lest it continues. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:49, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Harry fear

Hello there, I hope you’re all safe and well. Can someone review Draft:Harry Fear ? Do I need to edit it more? Thanks in advance Engy Badawy (talk) 01:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@Engy Badawy: The Draft:Harry_Fear is already marked submitted for review. You just need to be patient. RudolfRed (talk) 01:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Specifically "This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,475 pending submissions waiting for review." You can continue to work on it in the meantime. RudolfRed (talk) 01:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@Engy Badawy: Another thing you can work on is providing the licensing info for File:Harry_Fear.jpg, otherwise it will be deleted. RudolfRed (talk) 01:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

I’ll work on it. Thank you so much

The current version - refs #2 and #3 are interviews, which Wikipedia does not accept as confirming notability, and ref #5 is his own blog. Try, before the next reviewer gets to it, to find better references. David notMD (talk) 01:46, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay 👌🏻 Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engy Badawy (talk • contribs) 02:01, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@

^Talk

10:52, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Is Articles For Creation mandatory?

Greetings fellow tea enthusiasts,

I've finally finished a non-stub (imo)

article

(albeit not from the ones I set out to do, but meh... he was redlinked in a random DYI article recently). I intended to go through Afc properly this time (have published 2 stubs before directly in mainspace), but I see that the backlog is currently 3 months.

So, question: Is that process mandatory? I will certainly be going through it with my BLP article once that one is done, as that needs extra care (because living people and stuff). But I'm frankly a bit bored right now and don't really want to wait 3 months, so... can I publish the non-BLP article to mainspace directly? If that's shunned upon I can wait ofc; but if it is acceptable and allowing Afc helpers to spend more time on those difficult cases, I'd go the direct route (as I have done before, but back then I didn't know about Afc). -- LordPeterII (talk) 12:29, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

LordPeterII Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It is not mandatory to go through AfC, but it is highly recommended unless you have a great deal of experience in article creation. If you are confident that your draft would survive an Articles for Deletion discussion(the primary thing AFC reviewers look for), then you could move it into the encyclopedia yourself. 331dot (talk) 12:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

^Talk

12:36, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Note that your article will be subject to WP:new pages patrol. The folk who do these patrols tend to be less forgiving of poor articles than would be the case for ones created by AfC, but you can try.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:39, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Alright, thanks y'all. I guess I'll go through Afc then, if only to not set a bad example for others. And that it will be work either for Afc or New Page Patrol folks is a good point; so I won't really be reducing anyone's workload.

See you all in 3 months for an angry rant about you wicked Wikipedians unlawfully declining my perfectly best article! ;) --LordPeterII (talk) 13:17, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

LordPeterII, nah, a lot of us ain't wicked. At least a lot of us. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ GeraldWL 13:40, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

I've tidied up your draft Henry Ehrenreich and accepted it. Theroadislong (talk) 15:14, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@

not here to do anything but promote their one or two self-interested pet topics)—we wouldn't need AfC. It would probably be good if AfC was made mandatory, and then we could exempt the rare new user like you, actually here to build an encyclopedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk

) 16:15, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Here here, a pleasure to help a genuine useful contributor for once. Theroadislong (talk) 16:31, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh wow, now you folks make me blush! Thanks for accepting it, and for the praise. Certainly helps my motivation, although it'll likely be some time before I finish another article. See you around! --LordPeterII (talk) 11:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

LaTeX funny

I’ve come across a couple of new editors trying to add spaces around negative signs in LaTeX. The complaint is that the negative signs aren’t rendering without increasing the zoom level on the browser. Sure enough, I’ve had to increase the zoom level on my browser to see some negative signs. LaTeX used to render reliably at 110% (Maybe lower, but I’ve used 110% for years). Now I need to go to 150% in some cases. Has the LaTeX engine made some new assumptions about display resolution. My monitor is 1920 x 1080. Maybe it is time for an upgrade.Constant314 (talk) 10:53, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey Constant314. I have no idea about the answer to your question – and of course it's possible that someone will be along soon with an answer – but seeming arcane technical questions like this sometimes languish here, and are more likely to be seen by someone in the know if posted to the Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). So if no one answers below in a number of hours hours, I suggest posting there (and noting here that you've done so). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:14, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I posted there. Constant314 (talk) 11:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

shutterstock, alarmy: are their location pictures a reliable source?

shutterstock, alamy: are their location pictures a reliable source? 24.7.56.99 (talk) 09:08, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Possibly I can guess what your question is about, but I doubt it. Please provide a link to one such "location picture", and specify the assertion that it may or may not reliably source. Then somebody here can comment on that. -- Hoary (talk) 09:25, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Shutterstock and Alamy are both commercial sites which claim all their images are theirs (or their suppliers') copyright. Images from those sources could not be used on Wikipedia, unless properly and legally released by their owners, which I doubt would happen. Pictures are usually as reliable as their captioning - and that is never 100% guaranteed - and this is equally true of images on Wikimedia Commons. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Picture of Alex Mains used on the wiki site.

Today I found that a baseball card from 1919 of my great uncle does exist. The family has been looking for years to no avail. I am wondering if anyone can tell me where the picture of the card came from and who might have it yet today ? 174.25.168.15 (talk) 20:31, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia. You could try asking this at the

Reference Desk and hope there is a baseball expert there. 331dot (talk

) 20:37, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

According to the description page, the image File:1919_Zeenut_Alex_Main.jpg was uploaded from a website tradingcarddb. You can try looking at that website to see if there is more info on the card's current owner. RudolfRed (talk) 02:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

If it helps, a set of 1919 Zeenut cards was auctioned here for $2,370. You uncle was among the cards included. At that website look at the image on the right hand side of the page – see the seven round buttons below it? Click on the last (seventh) one. You can maximize the resulting image by clicking on it. Your great uncle's card is the third down on far right hand side.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Aha. You can purchase the card apparently, here. I say apparently, because the auction site lists the name as "Miles Mains" rather than Alex, but it is the 1919 Zeenut set, and they have every card listed with player names, so I assume this is the one.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:05, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

My article was unjustly rejected and i am protesting against this decision.

MY article Jeriq was rejected unjustly. I need to understand exactly what is wrong with that article Fabregado (talk) 09:35, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:MUSICBIO). If this person meets at least one of the criteria, you haven't adequately shown that with reliable sources. 331dot (talk

) 09:38, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Just a note that I've fixed that link, which was doing very odd things. It now links to the draft. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

WP:TOOSOON. David notMD (talk

) 12:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

How do I create a page?

I want to create a page for a person. How do I start and where is that link? Rrelangi0310 (talk) 12:17, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

new user tutorial

to learn more about Wikipedia.

If you still wish to attempt to create an article, you may create and submit a draft at

paid editing. 331dot (talk

) 12:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

How to make wikipedia page

How to make wikipedia page??? Muhammad Umer Ali UsmAni (talk) 12:35, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Muhammad Umer Ali UsmAni Hello and welcome. Please see the section immediately above this one, where another person asked the same question. It helps if you think of what you want to create as an article and not a mere "page"(which has a broader definition). 331dot (talk) 12:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

File:S.M.I.L.A by Alexander Ozolin .mp3

Hi, yesterday this file has been deleted in violation of

the subject of sourced commentary" mean. I can't understand this term, but can you explain clearly in order to know in the future please? The Supermind (talk

) 13:15, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

It seems that this was a "non-free" file that you uploaded for "fair use" in the article

Kiev Day and Night. One requirement for "fair use" is that the file actually is used in the article for which permission is requested. (NB there are numerous other requirements too.) Did it appear in that article? -- Hoary (talk

) 13:31, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Putting images in

Hello I don't know how to add any images to posts... And why can i coppy and paste things?Mr. Amasballs (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC) Mr. Amasballs (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

@Mr. Amasballs: If you go to any image, like this one, you'll see a button saying "Use this file" with a Wikipedia logo next to it. Click on it and copy that code into the article, like I've done here. Notice which part of the code I changed to write my own caption. For more info on how to do this, see Help:Pictures.

I don't really know what you mean by "coppy and paste things", but see this page on copyrights if you intend to copy the text on Wikipedia somewhere else, or this page for copying text from one Wikipedia page to another. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Message from Cureeight

Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to review my wikipedia page. As I am new to Wikipedia and devoted to have my own Wiki page go live, may I request some additional support please? I was using this page as an example to write my own - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popjustice You reviewed that 'Twitter and the official site aren't reliable sources'. That is understandable, what should I post then to clarify authentication, as I thought my own website would have been authentic enough? Any support would be dearly appreciated.

I look forward to hearing from you,

Yours Sincerely, Mark. Cureeight (talk) 13:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:MarkMeets Media

@

notability, which is how we determine if an article is "important" enough to have an article. This means that we need multiple independent reliable sources to go in depth about the subject. Regarding your draft, I suggest you look for these sources first, then work on the draft to make sure it's notable enough in the first place. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!

) 13:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Mark. In addition, to what Ganbaruby posted above, I also suggest you carefully read through Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Ownership of content and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not because it appears from you comment As I am new to Wikipedia and devoted to have my own Wiki page go live that you might be misunderstanding some very important things about Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Update

Clifford Sobel

I have been trying to update my personal information and cannot do so. It keeps going back to old information  SOBEL1 (talk) 14:52, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Clifford Sobel. 331dot (talk

) 15:10, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi SOBEL1. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Dealing with articles about yourself for more information, but basically what you will need to do is propose the changes you’d like made to the article on its talk page in the form of Wikipedia:Edit requests to give other editors a chance to assess them and make sure they are in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. — Marchjuly (talk) 15:17, 9 December 2020 (UTC)