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1. Discussions should run for at least 14 days before being closed;
2. Discussions should have at least 4 participants before being closed;
3. For a change to the list to be implemented, it must have over 60% support;
4. For a change to the list to be implemented, it must have 4 support votes;
5. Discussions should remain open until 7 days after the most recent vote.

• 14 days ago: 08:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
• 7 days ago: 08:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

The following link represent all current Level 5 Vital articles that are classified as STEM subjects:

If important

is Level 4.

Support

1. Support as nom. Gizza (talk) 03:26, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Support both, on 2nd thought, we probably could fill in types of helmets a bit more. Doesn't change my vote, but how much does motorcycle helmet overlap with racing helmet? -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. common enough. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. Oppose, agree with User:TonyTheTiger (we also don't list hard hat), but as technology, they all seem to share the identical principle covered in helmet. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   After thinking a bit more, this is a topic that should probably get filled out more. I'm also going to propose a spin-off below. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2. Too specific. The Blue Rider 16:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

1. I am having difficulty elevating any particular helmet above the others. We have many helmet articles including
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Add Hard hat and Combat helmet

These are two other kinds of helmet, but with very different applications from biking / racing.

Support

1. As nom. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Fair. Common. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:45, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

1. Still having a hard time getting behind any particular helmets over the others.-
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Add emerging/futurism concepts

A bit sf-y, but discussed in science. The articles we have are generally about science, not sf treatment of those (fiction is generally relegated to seprate articles). Perhaps some of this belongs under physics and not technology, but that's a minor issue. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Emerging technologies  5

Add Mind uploading

Add Brain–computer interface

"a direct communication pathway between the brain's electrical activity and an external device". Already tested on animals. 34 intewikis, ~700 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Support, still experimental, but AFAIK this is beyond animal-testing and into studies with people using these for prosthetics. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Already into human testing Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Add Terraforming

Add Generation ship

Add Artificial gravity

Not just a sf trope (and don't confuse with anti-gravity), can be created by rotation, etc. 25 intewikis, ~335 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Support, article isn't too speculative, has good details on microgravity training too. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose

Discuss

Add Asteroid mining

Big industry of the future, unless we self-destruct :) 22 intewikis, ~375 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Per nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

• This one's a toss-up for me. The actual technical side of it isn't too speculative; people talk about it now and it probably could be done if somebody really wanted to. Skeptical the economics will ever let it take off though, at least in my lifetime. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Space industry  5

Add Space tourism  5

Blanking, just leaving a friendly shout/link to Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Society#Add_Space_tourism from yesterday, I was late here :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Space elevator

Add Self-replicating machine

Some key concepts related to Nanotechnology  4. 14 intewikis, ~150 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

• Another borderline one for me: it can approximately be done right now, but feel like a lot of the concept revolves around more futuristic applications. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Molecular assembler

Same as above. 22 intewikis, but just ~65 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. Oppose, close to borderline for me, but article even says it's more focused on the speculative idea, not mundane things like ribosomes. Not opposed if it goes under Speculative fiction though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Per Zar2gar1 Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss

Add Molecular machine

Continuing. 32 intewikis, ~135 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Support, first impression is the article could distinguish natural and artificial instances better (article split?) Doesn't make the concept less vital though. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Add Self-replication

Ditto, but somewhat broader concept. 19 intewikis, ~97 daily page views. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Strong support, but under Science Basics, maybe around the same area we list System. Zar2gar1 (talk) 01:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Support under Science Basics, per Zar2gar1. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Add Megastructure

Add Dyson sphere

Add Matrioshka brain

Add Technological convergence  5

Covers DALL-E, Stable Diffusion and Midjourney. This type of AI in particular has sparked debate about human-made vs. AI art.

Support

1. As Nom.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 13:20, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Per nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. Per Aurangzebra. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:38, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Per Aurangzebra. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:33, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss

1. I think this could start a slippery slope where we will feel compelled to list all modalities when they are inevitably released widely (text-to-video model, AI code generation which does not even have a page yet etc.). Maybe we want to do this (after all, we already do have Speech synthesis  4 which is text-to-speech but this is a much more mature and widely used technology). But I feel like why bloat the list when your proposal for Generative artificial intelligence already covers all of these subfields and more. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Looks like I was only a week or so off: https://openai.com/sora. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:43, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sibling topic to Suicide prevention  5, this is what you do to stop a suicide if you are past the point of prevention. It is a pretty important topic to Suicide  3, and appears a lot more than prevention in pop culture.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:34, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Don't see why this wouldn't be Level 5. That said, while they technically fit under Death, would the suicide-related articles make more sense somewhere under Health? -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 21:38, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. A fairly common practice within the psychiatric field but not on the same level as for instance Kamikaze. The Blue Rider 19:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   @The Blue Rider: I don't see why not, I would argue it is just as important as Suicide prevention  5, especially since it has more of a presence in culture due to being the default way of stopping a suicide in fiction. Besides, Suicide  3 is VA3 and this is a notable enough subtopic to make the list. As you said, it is a fairly common practice. The comparison to Kamikaze also doesn't make much sense to me, since that was part of the Japanese military and not something happening to everyday people. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:18, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   Kamikaze is a type of suicide thus the comparison. It's a common practice in psychiatric but it's relatively minor, in the sense that it just consists in a couple of questions on whether people have suicidal ideation, a time and date, access to lethal means and if that's so they probably will get admitted to the hospital, but that's the minority of people. Most of the work to mitigate suicide is done through prevention. The Blue Rider 16:34, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral

Discuss

• Comment to avoid automatic archiving, as the discussion has not ended yet. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think we should list any particular models of Macs at this level. Interstellarity (talk) 22:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 22:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Support per nom. Gizza (talk) 07:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. A longstanding personal computer which marked the return of Steve Jobs to Apple and has been consistently popular for 25 years. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral

1. Conditional support if Mac (computer)  5 fails at V4. Vileplume (talk) 22:47, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:26, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:04, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. SUPPORT starship.paint (RUN) 09:32, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Support. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:19, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

More commonly known as "period pain".

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 13:33, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A common type of product

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. The Blue Rider 16:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A related concept to Computer security  4, with the distinction that computer systems are not necessarily involved.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:43, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Support, really good practical tech topic (and not just for computers). -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Yes, almost every midsize and large company have a team dedicated to this. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A necessary practice for both mechanical and software systems.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:46, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 09:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Support somewhere near the other applied sciences like engineering. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 01:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. The Blue Rider 16:37, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume (talk) 19:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A major concept in Occupational safety and health  4.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 09:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume (talk) 02:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A major concept in Environmental science  5.

Support

1. As nominator. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 10:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:56, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Pretty important, especially if you live in Flint. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:40, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Speaking of which, Flint probably has enough importance for V5, although the proposal for its addition isn’t going well. Vileplume (talk) 01:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

We already list Smartphone so this makes sense as a logical addition. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. Feature phones only came to be distinguished as "feature phones" upon the popularization of smartphones, at which point the category of "mobile phone that retains the form factor of earlier generations of mobile telephones" has become a relatively niche product. I think listing both Smartphone  4 and History of mobile phones  5 adequately cover the subject. feminist🩸 (talk) 09:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral

Discussion

The study of Tissue (biology)  4.

Support

1. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 17:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Is there a reason why Tissue (biology)  4 doesn't cover the topic adequately? feminist🩸 (talk) 09:58, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Histology covers the techniques used to study tissues. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 12:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The type of Injury  3 that humans are most concerned about.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 14:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:03, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Important recording device. Interstellarity (talk) 21:57, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 21:57, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:27, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Chatbots are one of the primary applications of generative AI models, but they have a long history. They started long before gen AI entered the spotlight, and have been used in customer support for a long time.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 01:08, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Per nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:38, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

• I'm finding chatbots to be too circumcised to customer support. The Blue Rider 16:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @The Blue Rider: Would ChatGPT not be a chatbot? QuicoleJR (talk) 22:01, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Is it? Oh. The Blue Rider 01:08, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These are suggested as vital by User:Zar2gar1 at Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/STEM#Add_Medical_uses_of_salicylic_acid. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Man, how did we not already have these. Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Wart

Support

1. As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Obviously. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Vileplume (talk) 13:23, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Thank you for starting up this proposal @Hanif Al Husaini:. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Nevus

More commonly known as moles or birthmarks.

Support

1. As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Vileplume (talk) 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Dermatitis

"Dermatitis was estimated to affect 245 million people globally in 2015, or 3.34% of the world population. ... In the United States, it affects about 10–30% of people."

Support

1. As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Vileplume (talk) 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Psoriasis

Frequency is 79.7 million / 2–4%

Support

1. As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Vileplume (talk) 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Add Vitiligo

Autoimmune disease that causes loss of skin pigmentation, with Michael Jackson being a famous case.

Support

1. As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:03, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 07:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Vileplume (talk) 00:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

A broad concept relating to information. Place under information technology?

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:06, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 15:19, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 16:15, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Support outside of Tech, this is really such a general & basic process, I feel almost like it belongs more in Philosophy somewhere. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A common mode of travel. Place under Transport?

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 01:57, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. The Blue Rider 10:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Support outside of Tech, such a basic process and can include just walking, seems more like part of Everyday Life. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   It may also fit well under Urban studies and planning, as commuting usually happens to and from urban areas. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

6. Vileplume (talk) 00:21, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
7. per nom, I like this under Urban studies and planning. Aurangzebra (talk) 04:15, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Fragrances are a major product.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 07:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Support in Chemistry, even if many are produced artificially. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

24 interwikis. In hot areas you can find this in homes, workplaces, schools and public areas.

Support

1. as nom. starship.paint (RUN) 23:16, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Support - also has an influence on building design and architecture (rooms tend to have higher ceiling heights). Gizza (talk) 01:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. I think
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Discuss

Food processing

Add Food processing  5

Add Fermentation in food processing

A common process worldwide in the production of various foods, such as Beer  4 and Chocolate  4.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 02:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. If we have the slots, I especially like the idea of adding more processes to tech. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A common type of Display device  5, especially in large-scale applications.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Should Video projector be listed instead? Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Why not both? starship.paint (RUN) 07:40, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Projector  5 is already listed. feminist🩸 (talk) 06:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We list multiple digital video file formats but not the parent concept

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 04:53, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 07:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. With this added, wondering if we could even trim the list of specific file formats. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 16:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   I would support that. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:49, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Add box plot

Common form to represent data. The Blue Rider 16:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 16:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Per nom. We should definitely also be adding bar chart, scatter plot, pie chart etc. In fact, I'm going to hijack this thread a bit to add these as well. Good catch. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume (talk) 01:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

I still support all of these, but presumably we want to keep all data-viz stuff with Statistics under Mathematics, which is already over quota. I can think up some batch removals, but I still think we need to discuss grabbing more slots for Math on the main Level 5 talk-page. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely. I can also look into some potential removals in Math. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:43, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Not OP) Add bar chart

Also a common type of graph seen in every form of media. High-importance on Wikiproject Statistics Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Oh wow, I assumed these were already on the list since they are even more essential. The Blue Rider 21:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

(Not OP) Add pie chart

Also a common type of graph seen in every form of media. 41 interwikis, the most of any type of graph as far as I'm aware. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 21:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

(Not OP) Add scatter plot

Also a common type of graph seen in every form of media. High-importance on Wikiproject Statistics. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 21:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

(Not OP) Add histogram

Top-importance in Wikiproject Statistics. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. as nom Aurangzebra (talk) 20:54, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 21:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 06:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:58, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. -- Zar2gar1 (talk) 17:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume (talk) 01:22, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A common way to achieve Weight loss  4.

Support

1. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 16:30, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. Let's add Fad first. feminist🩸 (talk) 10:44, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. A bit too specific variant of Dieting  4 in my opinion. Only 5 interwikis, merely OK pageviews at ~280 daily.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 11:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 13:43, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss

No indication of architectural, economic, or cultural importance.

Support

1. As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Support 10th least viewed Technology article according to the list I posted here.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 07:29, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. J947 ‡ ^edits 10:30, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Per nominator. The Blue Rider 13:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 01:53, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
7. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

It was fished so much that in 1992, Northern Cod populations fell to 1% of historical levels (Collapse of the Atlantic northwest cod fishery).

Support

1. As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 13:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Massively important commercially --Makkool (talk) 17:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Very important in the representation of information.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:19, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Should be V4. starship.paint (RUN) 12:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Important concept.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 15:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:07, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Most common way to do a Regression analysis  4. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 16:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

• Neutral for now because it is very important but I feel like it is sufficiently covered in the article for Linear regression  5 already. Aurangzebra (talk) 21:42, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  One is the estimation the other is the model, I think these two differ significantly. The Blue Rider 21:46, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @The Blue Rider: Yes and I'm saying that the article for the linear regression model has a full section for the linear least squares estimation method: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regression#Estimation_methods. Considering the fact that least squares is pretty much only used for regression, we don't need to include a separate article whose important aspects are covered by this one (and on the nonlinear side, we already list Non-linear least squares  5). Aurangzebra (talk) 15:41, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Aurangzebra: - given that Non-linear least squares exists, least squares is not wholly covered by linear regression. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Starship.paint: I didn't include that because the specific article for it is already VA5: Non-linear least squares  5. I think I would support a swap between the two though (non-linear least squares for the more general least squares). Aurangzebra (talk) 15:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don’t have any individual roads, and probably don’t need to, but I think this road is iconic enough to warrant discussion.

Support

1. SailorGardevoir (talk) 22:13, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. The most famous highway in the country. There are entire museums dedicated to it. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

• Does Route 66 have any historical importance? For instance, did people used the route during the territorial expansion of the US? The Blue Rider 23:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  It’s the first highway in the US to be fully paved. A lot of people used it to move to the West, especially a bunch of Okies escaping the Dust Bowl  4. Again though, I’m mostly suggesting it because of how famous it is. SailorGardevoir (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tilikum, a captive orca linked to three human deaths, symbolizes debates on animal captivity ethics and fostered awareness about animal welfare. The Blue Rider 01:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 01:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. SailorGardevoir (talk) 10:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

A common type of structure for recreational uses.

Support

1. As nominator. feminist🩸 (talk) 03:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:43, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Gazebo? :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:07, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Coefficient of determination

Variance  4 helps understand the spread of a sample, but its value alone may not provide much insight. This is where the coefficient of determination comes into play. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Add

Coefficient of correlation

Covariance  5 helps understand how two variables change together, but its value alone doesn't show the relationship's strength or direction. That's where the coefficient of correlation comes in. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Discuss

Add Correlation does not imply causation

In fields like economics and statistics, it's vital to remember this fallacy. Recognizing this distinction is crucial for accurate data interpretation and analysis. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 13:25, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Used to make foods such as gummy candy, marshmallows, ice creams, dips, and yogurts.

Support

1. As nom. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Also interesting from a religious perspective. Aurangzebra (talk) 01:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:19, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. feminist🩸 (talk) 12:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. Would prefer this over the already nominated Gelatin dessert. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 13:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Surprised it wasn't already listed. Gizza (talk) 00:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Wastewater produced from domestic use. Sewage treatment  4 is level 4.

Support

1. As nom Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 10:10, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Per my general support for adding enduring society-wide concepts. feminist🩸 (talk) 01:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/5/Archive_12 this article was removed, it was replaced by Megalonyx though no rationale was given for the addition other than personal opinion. Considering we are under quota and this is a widespread and behaviourally unique group of anteaters which is also decently common in captivity I think it deserves a place at this level. Maras are a widespread rodent in southern Patagonia that are also extremely widespread in captivity, considering we list other less known rodents from the region such as viscacha it would make sense to include the mara as well.

Support

1. as nom Maykii (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss Maykii (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Important subtopic to Email which we list.

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 20:10, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Extremely common in today's world. starship.paint (RUN) 01:13, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. I think e-mail already covers e-mail address well. The Blue Rider 14:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Oppose - I would first add Address which is far more vital. The place where you live provides a sense of belonging and is is even more important for identification purposes. Gizza (talk) 22:16, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per DaGizza.-
   WP:WAWARD) 00:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]

Neutral

Discussion

The two most popular diagnostic manuals in the world surely deserve a spot in the vital list. The Blue Rider 22:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 22:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. However, I think the DSM belongs under Nonfiction books in Arts (this is where we put Gray's Anatomy  5 which is also a medical reference). ICD is fine in Health, Medicine, and Disease. Aurangzebra (talk) 22:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:30, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Not sure where this should be listed in, but close surveillance, especially of the public, has always been of (controversial) interests given the close monitoring of people in daily life to make sure that nothing goes wrong, had been relevant to both private and public interests for decades. Also this page gets over a thousand views a day. PrimalMustelid (talk) 00:59, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Per nom. PrimalMustelid (talk) 00:59, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. List somewhere in Technology. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 01:30, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 02:15, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. WP:WAWARD) 00:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

The vital MTOC for many animal cell types, a hugely important organelle. Also, centrioles are already on there, and they make up the centrosome, so surely centrosome is higher priority for being on there? GraziePrego (talk) 02:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. per nom. Also, would you like to add your support, GraziePrego? Here at vital articles nominators usually support their proposals and are counted for the purposes of votes. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 06:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   2. Support! Thank you for the tip that I can support my own, @Hanif Al Husaini. GraziePrego (talk) 07:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Discuss

Vital concept for understanding organism development at all stages, and differentiating between cell types in the adult organism. Also a vital concept for understanding in vitro cell cultures, early embryo development and more. GraziePrego (talk) 02:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A huge milestone in in vitro modelling of embryo development that forms the foundation of huge amounts of research. GraziePrego (talk) 08:08, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first is rated Low-priority by Wikiproject Mathematics, while the latter is rated Mid-priority. Torus is also significantly less obscure topic.

Support

1. As nom.Makkool (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. --LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 19:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 10:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. J947 ‡ ^edits 22:14, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 16:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

The Sydney Metro only opened in 2019 and only has an annual ridership of 19,738,171. Out of all the rapid transit systems listed as vital articles, the Sydney Metro has the second lowest ridership, only beating the Glasgow Subway. The only reason I can guess why the Sydney Metro is a VA is for there to be a token Australian transit system listed as VA. My first preference would be to remove Sydney Metro without replacement, but I would be open to replacing Sydney Metro with Sydney Trains as well. The Sydney Trains system has an annual ridership of 288.3 million, placing it much better compared to the rapid transit systems listed as VA. Steelkamp (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As someone who has used the Sydney Metro, I support removing it from VA5. It is not something that the rest of the world needs to read about in an encyclopedia of 50,000 articles. Gizza (talk) 22:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Support swap with Sydney Trains Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 16:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

I don't want to say I support or oppose just yet but I do want to add that part of the reason for its somewhat elevated status might be because it is currently undergoing and is planned to undergo significant expansion. Most of the network is currently under construction as well so I would expect patronage to increase significantly soon. Takerlamar (talk) 21:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Glasgow Subway has an annual ridership of 8.0 million, far below any other rapid transit system listed as a VA. Steelkamp (talk) 15:02, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Nom
2. - when some metros have annual ridership of over a billion, what it this compared to those? starship.paint (RUN) 13:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Not vital. Gizza (talk) 22:13, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 12:32, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. WP:WAWARD) 00:24, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]

Oppose

Neutral

1. Annual ridership is low and Glasgow is only the fifth largest city in the UK, but this is one of the world's oldest metro systems. Sub-Saharan Africa could use some representation, although most of them are probably recentisms. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss

The Tokyo Metropolitan Bureau of Transportation is the operator of the much better known Toei Subway. Most (if not all) other rapid transit systems listed as VA are the transit systems themselves, rather than the operator of these transit systems. Notice how London Underground is listed as a VA, and Transport for London is not. Steelkamp (talk) 15:06, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Nom

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

@Steelkamp: You forgot to add the customary at vital "support as nominator" vote. Also, please consider reviewing and voting on other VA proposals. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unique laptop that combines the functionality of a laptop and a tablet. Interstellarity (talk) 23:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 23:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. Said it before: I am just not sure what is so special about the 2-in-1 laptop. The article states that there are two versions, the convertible, which is basically a laptop that can be folded into a tablet, and the detachable, which is a tablet that a keyboard can be attached to. How significant or revolutionary are these changes? starship.paint (RUN) 13:54, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   @Starship.paint: My answer: The importance and vitality of 2-in-1 laptops lie in their ability to seamlessly blend the portability of tablets with the productivity of laptops. By offering a versatile experience, they cater to users who need both touch interaction and powerful computing capabilities. Whether they’re a student, professional, or creative, 2-in-1s empower people to work, create, and consume content efficiently. Their adaptability represents a significant leap in personal computing, bridging the gap between traditional laptops and tablets, and enhancing people's digital lives. Interstellarity (talk) 12:24, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

   @Interstellarity:, you’re starting to sound like ChatGPT… starship.paint (RUN) 23:18, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2. Not convinced per starship.paint. Gizza (talk) 00:40, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. WP:WAWARD) 00:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]

Neutral

Discussion

Was removed earlier here.--LaukkuTheGreit (Talk•Contribs) 06:33, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Historical medical procedure that was widely used to treat psychiatric disorders. The Blue Rider 23:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 23:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 23:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Support Gizza (talk) 00:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Unfortunately vital. Over 6700 dailies, 49 interwikis. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 18:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opppose

Discuss

The genus of the plants that are used to make Tobacco  4. The Blue Rider 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 00:29, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

Extremely prevalent species of bird in Europe and that also consistenly appears in popular culture; 116 interwikis.

Support

1. As nominator. The Blue Rider 01:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 12:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Discuss

It is the world's busiest airport, but not sure why it is important historically. With the removal of Anchorage Airport and this one, we should cut the number of US airports we list. JFK, LAX and ORD, are fine for this level. Interstellarity (talk) 19:47, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 19:47, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. Vileplume 🍋‍🟩 (talk) 22:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Just it being the busiest one makes it vital. --Vanyka-slovanyka (talk) 12:23, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. WP:WAWARD) 12:37, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]

Neutral

Discussion

Move online services to all in one pages

I noticed that Apple and Microsoft are on a different page than Google, Amazon, and Facebook. I don’t think it makes sense to list several websites and companies on two different pages. I’m hoping that we can develop a structure so that major companies, websites, and services are all on the same page. Interstellarity (talk) 19:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we need to list companies and websites on the same page. I moved webpages back to where they were, but I did leave the IT companies with the rest in Economics. I also think that we should have a structure: something like Meta Platforms and Alphabet Inc.  5 in Economics and Facebook  4 and Google  4 in technology. Makkool (talk) 10:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Makkool I think we should discuss how we structure these pages at level 4. It didn’t make sense to me that Google, Apple, and Microsoft were on different places so I combined them into one. Any thoughts on what we should do with those pages? Interstellarity (talk) 15:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the best solution is the one I outlined above: to have Meta and Alphabet represent Facebook and Google along Apple and Microsoft. Makkool (talk) 15:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing to remove the following from Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Physical sciences/Basics and measurement:

1. Stere  5 - volume
2. Hogshead  5 - volume
3. Rundlet  5 - volume
4. Tierce (unit)  5 - volume
5. Puncheon (unit)  5 - volume
6. Butt (unit)  5 - volume
7. Tun (unit)  5 - volume
8. Cubic yard  5 - volume
9. Cubic mile  5 - volume
10. Perm (unit)  5 - water vapor transmission
11. Flick (time)  5
12. Sarpler  5 - weight
13. Cologne mark  5 - weight
14. Lot (weight)  5
15. Zhàng  5 - length, not strictly defined
16. Finger (unit)  5 - length, not strictly defined
17. Cable length  5, not strictly defined

Support

1. per nom. It is not apparent why these are vital and I am not sure how much we could really write about them to turn into Featured Articles. starship.paint (RUN) 14:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom. We already list the aggregate articles English brewery cask units  5 and English wine cask units  5, so no need to individually list the separate units. Makkool (talk) 15:05, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Support per nom. Good pickup. Gizza (talk) 00:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 04:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5. WP:WAWARD) 00:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]

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Discuss

• Frankly, more units can probably be removed. starship.paint (RUN) 14:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The ancestor of LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. Interstellarity (talk) 10:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 10:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Type of software Microsoft Office and LibreOffice are. Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. Too general.-
   WP:WAWARD) 00:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]

Neutral

Discussion

Subdiscipline of Chemistry that is wholly encompassed by the article ceramic engineering. 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)~

Support

1. Reconrabbit 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 02:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per above. starship.paint (RUN) 12:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

• This article was created mainly to advertise someone's website.
  Ceramics#Properties
  describes most of the information that could be here. A better name for the article would be ceramic chemical processing, but the scope of this delisting is to make room for other things and allow for an easier merge.

Reconrabbit 12:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Surprised this is not listed when it should be. Interstellarity (talk) 13:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 13:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. per nom Aurangzebra (talk) 18:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. per nom. starship.paint (RUN) 01:32, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4. WP:WAWARD) 16:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]
5. Should be in Society, not STEM. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Neutral

Discussion

Very common topic in today's society especially with the rise of mobile devices. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support

1. Interstellarity (talk) 00:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

1. The term "mobile" as the opposite of "desktop" is an vital term. However, I think it refers to
   WP:WAWARD) 16:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
   ]

Neutral

Discussion

This does not seem like a vital type of carriage. Only 1 interwiki.

Support

1. As nom. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 13:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Better known as Via Appia, the most important and well-known of Roman roads  5.

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1. As nom. Makkool (talk) 17:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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