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Two Deaf / Nazi Germany articles and two drafts
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- Sterilization of deaf people in Nazi Germany
- Deaf Organizations during the Holocaust
- Draft:Influencers and Cultural Players of the Deaf During Nazi Controlled Germany
- Draft:Deaf Sterilization and Nazi Coverups
These four contain material that should not be lost. However, they require a careful hand to work out how and what to achieve. I have left comments on the two drafts, but I think members of this Wikiproject are best suited to take this forward. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 14:44, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Friedrich Heinrich Albrecht#Requested move 18 March 2022
Women in Red translation contest: April to June 2022
At the beginning of April,
For an event that boasts 4 million visitors a year, this article has gotten little attention from editors. I could stub the article but wanted to drop it here first to see if the subject matter experts can do any cleanup.Slywriter (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Schutzstaffel → SS
An editor has opened a move discussion as to whether the article
Better name for "Category:Nazi personnel who resisted the Holocaust"?
See
- I hear and respect your point; however, during the era of Nazi Germany, service to the state was equivalent to allegiance and membership in the Nazis. So the phrase "Nazi personnel" simply refers to being a member of the official personnel of Nazi Germany.
- As you know, all other parties were prohibited and brutally suppressed by the Nazi regime. Membership in the government or the military did not make one an ardent Nazi; however, it did make one part of the official personnel of the Nazi regime, regardless of one's individual opinions, or political beliefs. since the adjective "Nazi" applies to Germany itself as a whole, i.e. "Nazi Germany," it is useful and valid to refer to any official employees as "Nazi personnel."
- that is precisely why the category name uses the phrase "Nazi personnel; " it deliberately suggests a formal relationship, instead of using less-suitable phrasing, such as e.g. "Nazi adherents," "Nazi ideologues," "Nazi organizers," "Nazi leaders," etc etc. I do appreciate your good-faith comments on this. --Sm8900 (talk) 22:11, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Service to the state was not equivalent to "membership in the Nazis", which is party membership. How about "Nazi German officials"? That would make it clearer that they are officials of Nazi Germany, not personnel who were Nazis as in the current name. —Kusma (talk) 22:35, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you both for responding constructively here. There are distinctions to be made. The name of the government at the time was the Deutsches Reich or "German Empire". The name of its combined armed forces was the Wehrmacht. So, while we recognize that all this was under the control of one party—the Nazi Party—it's wrong to imply that individuals living or working under the regime were "Nazis". Additionally, some of the people in the category were industrialists or local officials—not part of the national government.
- "Nazi Germany" is our linguistic construct. The German Wikipedia article uses nationalsozialistischer Staat, which means "national socialist state". It's an affront to the actions and legacy of many of those who opposed the Holocaust to associate the name "Nazi" with them, so "Nazi German officials" is an unfortunate turn of phrase. I am looking for a description for the category that dissociates Nazism from individuals who resisted its policies. "German officials who opposed the Nazi Holocaust" or "Officials of the Third Reich who opposed the Holocaust" would achieve this. Sincerely, HopsonRoad (talk) 03:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Note: I've moved this discussion to
User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (
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and turns it into something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.
The script is mostly based on
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
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This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
FAR for Finnish Civil War
I have nominated
Easter traditions of Germany
We've recently created Category:Easter traditions in Germany but it's being considered for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_April_24#Category:Easter_traditions_by_country. I think it has scope for expansion. Comments appreciated (at the CfD thread, they won't be noticed here). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:33, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Adding article to list to be translated
Hi! I'm new to serious Wikipedia contribution and having some difficulty figuring out how to add an article to the list of articles to be translated. I'm hoping to add
- @WP:PNT for some of the various tags that add an article to those categories. As far as I know there's no way to tag an article on another wiki for translation. You can also start a stub and tag it with Template:Expand_German. There is a really tremendous backlog on that category though (over 7k articles, nearly 5k of which are geography specifically), so I don't really recommend creating a stub solely in the hopes someone else will translate it. -- asilvering (talk) 18:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
As German-English translator of articles on German history, I've found many articles flagged for expansion / translation that aren't listed in the category "History articles needing translation from German Wikipedia". How is that category updated? Is it possible for the update to be automated? GHStPaulMN (talk) 11:54, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
New MdB stubs by Lovemankind83
User:Lovemankind83 has been creating plenty of stubs for politicians that were newly elected to the Bundestag in 2021. I’m sorry to say that these stubs are of very poor quality: I’ve already fixed invalid syntax; typos in city or town names, years, and subject names; unsourced information; and more spaces before references than I care to count. I would appreciate some help in cleaning those up. Galaktos (talk) 23:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Galaktos. Here is a link to his/her contributions: Special:Contributions/Lovemankind83. Kiwipete (talk) 09:46, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- What should I say? Someone has to do this stuff, because its a shande that all the good politicians of the Bundestag get the attention they deserve Lovemankind83 (talk) 12:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Alexander, Prince of Saxony#Requested move 15 May 2022
Featured article review for Ulm campaign
I have nominated
Duino Elegies Featured article review
I have nominated
Who said this quote?
Adolf_Hitler's_rise_to_power stated that Theodor Wolff made a quote translated as "It is a hopeless misjudgement to think that one could force a dictatorial regime upon the German nation. [...] The diversity of the German people calls for democracy."
However the source in German states:
- "Wie Theodor Wolff bezeichnete es Reifenberg als "eine hoffnungslose Verkennung unserer Nation, zu glauben, man könne ihr ein diktatorisches Regime aufzwingen": "Die Vielfältigkeit des deutschen Volkes verlangt die Demokratie.""
A Google Translate of this quote suggests that it was Reifensberg and not Wolff said it. The translation could be wrong and it would be nice to confirm this.
Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 03:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @WhisperToMe You're correct. Wolff's quotes are in the paragraph above that one. -- asilvering (talk) 04:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Asilvering: Thank you! I fixed the attribution and added the German quote for extra verification. It was important to fix this as it's such an influential and high traffic article. BTW did the Zeit source state where Reifenberg made his quote? Was it directly in a German newspaper? WhisperToMe (talk) 13:12, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, in a newspaper, the Frankfurter Zeitung. I assume on 31 January 1933 if you want to look for it (that's the date of Wolff's editorial, and it doesn't specify any other date for Reifensberg). -- asilvering (talk) 17:29, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Asilvering: Thank you! On DE Wiki's embassy I de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:Botschaft#Trying_to_find_1930s_editorials_about_the_development_of_Nazi_Germany made a request to see if someone can fish out copies of the two editorials. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, in a newspaper, the Frankfurter Zeitung. I assume on 31 January 1933 if you want to look for it (that's the date of Wolff's editorial, and it doesn't specify any other date for Reifensberg). -- asilvering (talk) 17:29, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Asilvering: Thank you! I fixed the attribution and added the German quote for extra verification. It was important to fix this as it's such an influential and high traffic article. BTW did the Zeit source state where Reifenberg made his quote? Was it directly in a German newspaper? WhisperToMe (talk) 13:12, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
FAR for Battle of Ceresole
I have nominated
Draft:Cryptomator translation help needed
I am trying to translate the article from German as well as trying to use some of the press kit sources. But I can't rely on Gtranslate anymore So, I need help translating and verifying everything is correct:
- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptomator
- https://cryptomator.org/presskit/#reception Greatder (talk) 15:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Question of typography
Dear all,
I am in creating a contribution for the English Wikipedia. See: User:Alexander Peren. The subject of this article is for a recently installed museum in Germany (Place of Remembrance Badehaus), treating the special place Camp Föhrenwald from its beginning to its change towards a "regular" living quarter. It is mainly the translation of the same article of the German Wikipedia "Erinnerungsort Badehaus". However, I face some problems with typographic questions.
In my contribution appear names of associations/institutions and groups, so what is normally called "proper name". Addtionally, it appears names of books, films, exhibitions, which are as well "proper names", but s.th. completely different. And finally it appear some German expressions, for which no "official" counterpart exists in the english language.
I would like to distinguish these three typs of "proper names" (associations/institutions; titels; German expressions) with typographic medium.
My first idea was to put associations/institutions in italic, the titels in 'apostroph' and the German expressions in "quotation marks". You can see this version in looking older versions of my draft.
But then, with the help of Adakiko, my attention was attracted to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:FOREIGNITALIC. Inside this link I found (citation) When not to use italics Shortcut MOS:NOITALIC Italics are generally used only for titles of longer works. Titles of shorter works should be enclosed in double quotation marks ("text like this"). This particularly applies to works that exist as a smaller part of a larger work. These include but are not limited to: Articles, essays, papers, chapters, reference work entries, newspaper and magazine sections or departments, episodes of audio-visual series, segments or skits in longer programs, short poems, short stories, story lines and plot arcs; songs, album tracks and other short musical works; leaflets and circulars. (See WP:Manual of Style/Titles § Quotation marks for details.) (citation end) This means for me: titels belonging to a serie/sequence have to be written in quotation marks
In the same link it is written: (citation) Quotations Further information: MOS:QUOTE and MOS:WORDSASWORDS Shortcut MOS:NOITALQUOTE It is normally incorrect to put quotations in italics. They should only be used if the material would otherwise call for italics, such as for emphasis or to indicate use of non-English words. Quotation marks alone are sufficient and the correct way to denote quotations. Indicate whether italics were used in the original text or whether they were added later. For example: "Now cracks a noble heart. Good night sweet prince: And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest!" (emphasis added). (citation end) means for me, that German expressions (like Hitlerbeton) also have to be put in quotation marks.
And italic, as far as I believe having read in this link, is exclusively for standing-alone titels of books etc.
Per consequence, I face now the situation for my contribution that mostly the quotation mark is used, rarely the italic and not at all the apostrophe.
Can someone of you help me with my difficulties to distinguish the three different "proper names" in my contribution by help of typography? Which way is acceptable for not to viol against the Wikipedia rules? As I already wrote, my preferred solution would be apostrophe for titels, italic for associations/institutions and quotation marks for German expressions without official english counterpart.
Furthermore, my contribution is - with the exception of these typographic questions - more or less ready. Might it please be possible for someone of you to have a look to my article and to make suggestions for improvement, if necessary, or if the article is already good enough to move it towards the regular Wikipedia.
This would be great. I already thank you in advance so much for all your help and your proposals.
Best regards, take care and stay healthy
--
- Hello, Alexander Peren, and welcome to the Teahouse. Your user page is not an appropriate place to draft an article, and I have moved it to ) 13:49, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- their talk page and also look at their archive. The draft article seems to be coming along well, although I did notice several Wikilinks to disambiguation pages rather than the best targets. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:56, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Alexander Peren (talk) 08:21, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks in advance to all for any help with my question(s)
Best regards and have a nice day
Alexander --
It seems that my question was overlooked by you. Might it please be possible to get any answer towards my questions? This would be great as at the Tea House, I was adviced to address my issue here.
Thank you so much in advance for any answer and have a nice week-end. Best regards. Alexander
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- asilvering already said everything important I think. To summarise: German expressions are usually in {{lang}} or {{lang-de}}, das sieht dann so aus wie dieser Nebensatz (so it is automatically italicized if you don't do something against it). Quotes use quotation marks or {{blockquote}}, book titles are in italics, with exceptions for non-Latin scripts where this looks stupid and so Chinese 中文 is typically never in italics. —Kusma (talk) 16:13, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- There is quite a lot of guidance about translating proper names at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Germany). However, places like the Erinnerungsort Badehaus are always tricky. Leaving it in German is no help to an English reader as it is unintelligible, but a literal translation "Place of Remembrance Bathhouse" is not abundantly clear and is a poor English construction - we always put the name first and the description second - the opposite way round to the standard German word order.
- But if we look at what it actually is, other options may be possible. Essentially it was a public bathhouse that has become both a museum and a memorial site. So it could be called the "Badehaus Memorial", "Badehaus Memorial Site" or "Badehaus Museum". And although Badehaus is generic for "bathhouse", using "Bathhouse Memorial" or "Bathhouse Museum" may be too general even though it's clearer.
- I notice on the English version of their site they either use the German name or just "the Badehaus", which means "Badehaus Museum" might be an excellent compromise. Of course, we would always put the German name in the lede as well. Bermicourt (talk) 18:25, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, I wish to create an article on the German version of the Cluedo game show, but the only sources I can find are from these press clippings that won't go through image-to-text software. Are there any volunteers who could help? The sources are from "Bild + Funk" and "TV Serien-Hits" so perhaps there is a cleaner version of these pages that can go through translation software?--Coin945 (talk) 15:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Works Constitution Act 1972#Requested move 30 August 2022
Update for WiTricity at German Wikipedia
Hello! On behalf of WiTricity and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I've submitted a request at German Wikipedia to update the article's text re: funding. The German Wikipedia entry is essentially a translation of the English Wikipedia article and I've proposed specific text (in German) for consideration. Perhaps someone here speaks German and could review the proposed text and update the article appropriately?
Thanks for your consideration, Inkian Jason (talk) 13:40, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Alte Synagoge (Aachen)
I recently created a draft for Alte Synagoge (Aachen). Any help would be appreciated. Thriley (talk) 22:04, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Kamenáč#Requested move 28 August 2022
Infobox German place mayor link
Requesting feedback on whether the infobox link for mayor should go to Mayor instead of Burgomaster. Please comment at the infobox talk page. Thanks. MB 22:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Caroline of Hesse-Homburg#Requested move 14 September 2022
Request to review sentence at Zwei Friedenssäulen
Could someone who speaks German review the sentence at
- I've removed the text as it seems the source is talking about a different column in Hanover, not Berlin. And the article is now at Siegessäulen since that appears to be their German name and in any case they are victory columns not peace columns. Bermicourt (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- You're right, this article is about a (much higher) column in Hanover, see de:Waterloosäule. I found a reference for the two Charlottenburg columns, which calls them Viktoriensäulen. Markussep Talk 08:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Merge request at Munich Massacre
There is a merge request at
Requested move at Talk:France-Germany border#Requested move 15 October 2022
Draft:Alte Messe Leipzig
I've bemusedly spent a couple of hours tinkering with
Requested move at Talk:Auschwitz trial#Requested move 3 November 2022
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Auschwitz trial#Requested move 3 November 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 19:58, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
User Gim709
The edits of this user -- the vast majority of which involve various German polities and subjects -- need to be closely examined. I have caught them using a false reference on an edit to German Empire, I suppose in an attempt to have the information they added not be deleted from the article. A quick look at some others of their edits did not disabuse me of the thought that their edits need to be monitored, a task the members of this project would obviously be ideal for. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- That edit of mine on German Empire is based on an information on Otto von Bismarck from which I also copied the source, sorry if I don't know the source is problematic. Gim709 (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Der/die/das order ... or is it der/das/die?
If you are interested in that sort of thing, please have a look at Talk:German articles#Der/die/das order – again, where I attempt to reopen the question of revising that article so it works in der/die/das
order rather than its current der/das/die
. On the other hand, if you are not interested, then please have a nice day anyway. Best to all, DBaK (talk) 21:42, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Related requested move
To get things clear (and wider discussed) I have started a formal requested move:
Names of districts
- We have three different types of names of German districts:
- I would prefer a unification.
Xx236 (talk) 11:29, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- The first example needs "(district)" as a disambiguator because there is also a town of WP:COMMONNAME whereas I'm not aware of English sources calling e.g. Wetteraukreis anything other than that. Bermicourt (talk) 13:28, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Ooops, I spoke too soon. There is an official site called "Wetterau District" here and another called "Main-Taunus District". So maybe worth thinking about. That would probably mean changing all district articles to "Foo District" for consistency e.g. Groß-Gerau District and Waldeck-Frankenburg District. That would then follow the practice with Austrian districts. Bermicourt (talk) 13:33, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- The first example needs "(district)" as a disambiguator because there is also a town of
- In German there are the following forms (see the subcategories of de:Kategorie:Landkreis in Deutschland):
- Landkreis X (e.g. Landkreis Waldshut, Landkreis Stendal, Landkreis Berchtesgadener Land, Landkreis Havelland)
- Kreis X (e.g. Kreis Borken)
- Xkreis (e.g. Wetteraukreis, Main-Tauber-Kreis, Oberbergischer Kreis, Eifelkreis Bitburg-Prüm)
- districts with a disambiguator (e.g. Landkreis Rotenburg (Wümme), Landkreis Lindau (Bodensee), Landkreis Nienburg/Weser)
- districts with special names (e.g. Landkreis Grafschaft Bentheim, Kreis Herzogtum Lauenburg)
- special cases (Region Hannover, Städteregion Aachen, Regionalverband Saarbrücken)
- Since many of the districts are named after towns and hence by definition ambiguous, I could support moving all to X District. Except the districts that have "kreis" in their name, I prefer to keep those at the German name. I'm not sure what to do with the special cases, "Herzogtum Lauenburg District" sounds a bit awkward. Markussep Talk 08:43, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Given that there is no consistent system in the original German names (there are probably thirteen different systems with different exceptions), I do not think we should invent our own. Is there a system commonly used in reliable sources in English talking about German districts? If not, I would go for official names, which means German names (none of the links provided by Bermicourt are official sites of the districts), or translate "Kreis X" and "Landkreis X" but keep others in German. —Kusma (talk) 09:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Good points and happy to leave it as it is. I'm not even a great fan even of the translation "district", simply because several other German levels of administration are also commonly translated "district" including Bezirk, Stadtbezirk, Stadtteil, (Stadt)quartier, Gemeindebezirk and the older Distrikt. The German Liaison Services of the British Forces in Germany, as well as the British Embassy, avoided this confusion by calling all the Kreise, "counties", which roughly corresponds to similar divisions in Britain and the US (fitting neatly below "state" as it would in Germany) and frees the term "district" for other levels of administration. The term "county" is also used on English language websites and in some English language books, so it is entirely valid. Of course, the official EU term is "district", but AFAIK they don't give any guidance about translating the other terms. Bermicourt (talk) 11:27, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- There are EU translations for some other divisions, see pages 58–59 of 160. For instance Bezirk as part of a town or city is "borough". I'm fine with leaving the titles as they are. Markussep Talk 12:27, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Good points and happy to leave it as it is. I'm not even a great fan even of the translation "district", simply because several other German levels of administration are also commonly translated "district" including Bezirk, Stadtbezirk, Stadtteil, (Stadt)quartier, Gemeindebezirk and the older Distrikt. The German Liaison Services of the British Forces in Germany, as well as the British Embassy, avoided this confusion by calling all the Kreise, "counties", which roughly corresponds to similar divisions in Britain and the US (fitting neatly below "state" as it would in Germany) and frees the term "district" for other levels of administration. The term "county" is also used on English language websites and in some English language books, so it is entirely valid. Of course, the official EU term is "district", but AFAIK they don't give any guidance about translating the other terms. Bermicourt (talk) 11:27, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Given that there is no consistent system in the original German names (there are probably thirteen different systems with different exceptions), I do not think we should invent our own. Is there a system commonly used in reliable sources in English talking about German districts? If not, I would go for official names, which means German names (none of the links provided by Bermicourt are official sites of the districts), or translate "Kreis X" and "Landkreis X" but keep others in German. —Kusma (talk) 09:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- In German there are the following forms (see the subcategories of de:Kategorie:Landkreis in Deutschland):
Draft:Fachschule für Luftfahrzeugführer
DoneThis draft has been submitted at Wikipedia:Articles for creation, and after looking at the sources I concluded it needs to be reviewed by an editor fluent in German who also participates using Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions. Thanks for considering this request. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 06:21, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:IIII (album)#Requested move 2 January 2023
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:IIII (album)#Requested move 2 January 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. UtherSRG (talk) 21:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Article Southtyroleans
This is not strictly a German topic, but it's German adjacent: the article
FAR for Inner German border
Featured article review for Battle of Schellenberg
I have nominated
- According to the 2nd template; "Feel free to improve the article". In the past 5 days I have made 10 such improvement edits of apx 5000 bytes. My intention is to clarify the article in reference to the deletion discussion.
- There are 4 sections of this article. 1. Opening text describing the theme of the article in direct reference to 22 numbers. 2. A block of the 22 numbers, containing the published references by 22 authors who published the 22 numbers, with names allotted to each number. 3. A block of the 22 names (linked to their individual articles), with images. / 4. The 22 section headings containing, my clip notes from the 22 articles of these names. Of these 4 sections, section 4 is already accessible in section 3, and therefore redundant. If I leave section 4 in the article, the clip notes may be expanded to the length of 22 articles! It is my intention to put these clip notes into section 2, for quick, basic references on 22 known individuals, using section 2 for access to fuller details. Section 4, will be used for two new (relevant to section 1) section headings. Reichskanzler' and Bundesrat.
- As such, would there be any objection to deleting the 22 redundant section headings, putting the clip notes in 2 block, (what it was created for), and replacing these with the more-relevant Reichskanzler' and Bundesrat sections. If I am not allowed to do this, are there any objections/comments/discussions, to deleting the 22 sections in 4.
- I believe that the/my final draft will be self evident, and hopefully acceptable to any critics of my starting draft, and final draft. Any constructive help will be appreciated. Stephen2nd (talk) 20:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Riesling
Riesling has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:58, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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ISBN for a German book?
Can anyone provide ISBN for the following citation, and ideally, a page range?
Jauss, Hans Robert. Preface to the German translation of Vade Mecum, München: Fink, 1981 Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:13, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- ) 09:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:06, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
RFC on general & party elections
An RFC about intros of general & party elections, is being held. GoodDay (talk) 16:34, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
Disambiguation of links to Archbishopric of Cologne
Could you help to disambiguate links to Archbishopric of Cologne. It is generally better for the reader to link to the specific article which could be: Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Cologne, Electorate of Cologne or Archbishop of Cologne but I do not have the specialist knowledge to know which one. The list of articles including the link is at Disambig fix list for Archbishopric of Cologne. Thanks for any help.— Rod talk 11:20, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- Done. —Kusma (talk) 15:41, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Etymology of the Eppstein name?
Please see my question / proposal at Talk:Eppstein#Name etymology. --CiaPan (talk) 10:39, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Discussion at MFE - MediaForEurope
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Project-independent quality assessments
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Requested move at Talk:Memorial to the German Resistance#Requested move 9 April 2023
Good article reassessment for Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:00, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Improving German Empire
I'm thinking of improving German Empire to GA status, and the folks at the Teahouse said to add some sections as part of their answer and directed me here. Are there any extra sections I could add (I have an idea of subsections but not full sections to add)? Vamsi20 (ask me questions) (see what I've edited) 13:32, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
Ramboll Studio Dreiseitl
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Ramboll Studio Dreiseitl and assessing it? The article was created back in 2013, but never seems to have been assessed in the years since then. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:45, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Done -- asilvering (talk) 21:30, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
Seeking advice for German manager draft
Hello, editors! I'm posting here to see if members of this WikiProject can give me any advice about a draft for a German manager. My name is Allison and I work for the global commercial real estate company JLL, so I have a conflict of interest with topics related to the company. Last year, my colleague submitted a draft to the German Wikipedia for JLL's CEO, Christian Ulbrich and more recently, I have been trying to establish an English Wikipedia article for him. The draft was declined twice at Articles for Creation, due to editors feeling that there are not enough in-depth sources about Mr. Ulbrich.
Since Mr. Ulbrich is the CEO of a large public company, and I see other similar articles for managers of his status on Wikipedia, I looked around and saw this guidance that editors should typically keep a page if it is for a Fortune 500 CEO even if the coverage is fairly light, but I don't know if that applies to creation of such a page, too. Also, it seems editors are more comfortable with a very short article for an executive, if the notability is not as clear. With that in mind I made a short version of the draft for Mr. Ulbrich. Before I submit again, I wanted to seek out advice from editors who have experience with articles for German executives. Would anyone here might be willing to look at the short draft for Mr. Ulbrich, and share any advice? Thanks, AHatJLL (talk) 14:28, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Is it possible for you to work on the "original" draft article that was already twice declined? Especially since you have a COI I think it will be easy for AfC reviewers to conclude that your fresh start is an attempt to game the system. -- asilvering (talk) 21:37, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
newish, question about submitted draft articles?
Hi folks, I'm still fairly new to wikipedia, and I'd like to contribute more to the WikiProject Germany. Although I've searched and read through quite a bit of Wikipedia guidance, I'm still not sure what to do about draft articles. I've written a couple of draft articles by now and submitted them, but they seem to sit a long time under the "Review waiting, please be patient" template. It seems like a worthwhile thing to do to figure out how I can review other people's drafts to relieve this kind of problem in general. Can someone point me in the right direction to learn how to work on this? Snowflakedivertor (talk) 13:25, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @WP:AFD. I recommend lurking at AfD for a little while, then joining some deletion discussions. When you're confident that you understand what articles tend to survive deletion debates, then apply to be an AfC reviewer. AfC would love to have you! -- asilvering (talk) 21:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Many thanks, I'll check this out. Snowflakedivertor (talk) 06:11, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
Discussion of interest
A discussion which may be of interest to the members of this group can be found here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:52, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Francis II, Holy Roman Emperor#Requested move 3 July 2023
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Francis II, Holy Roman Emperor#Requested move 3 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:28, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
The article Adelindis von Buchau has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
three different topics (person/festival/spring), none of which seem particularly notable
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will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 01:34, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Free University of Berlin#Requested move 30 June 2023
Requested move at Talk:Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire)#Requested move 3 July 2023
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire)#Requested move 3 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 09:11, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Timeline of Kaliningrad#Requested move 19 July 2023
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Timeline of Kaliningrad#Requested move 19 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:34, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
An RfC of interest
An RfC of possible interest to this WikiProject can be found here.
Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Improving Angela Merkel
Hi everyone! I've been working on Angela Merkel for a while now, and hopefully, it will soon pass it's GA nom. If that does in fact happen (or if it unexpectedly does not), would someone be interested in collaborating on further improving it? My goal is to bring it up to FA, but it would be my first FA, so it'd rather not do it alone. Let me know :) Actualcpscm (talk) 21:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Credibility bot
As this is a highly active WikiProject, I would like to introduce you to
) 17:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)Hi, would appreciate it if someone could have a look at Menno Aden. I've just copyedited it but don't know anything about this person, and am not sure whether the article is a decent summary of his career. In particular, he was described in the lead as "the author of the Neue Rechte". I have changed this to "founder", but the political movement is not mentioned in the rest of the article on Aden, and Aden himself is not mentioned in the Neue Rechte article - so I'm not sure that this is accurate. Thanks. Tacyarg (talk) 18:52, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
University of Heidelberg articles
Please refer to the below navbox. I discovered while editing an AFD nomination for Heidelberg University Faculty of Philosophy and History, that much (but not all) of what is listed in the navbox, has little-to-nothing in the way of sourcing. — Maile (talk) 03:55, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Landkreis Freystadt i. Niederschles.#Requested move 24 August 2023
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Landkreis Freystadt i. Niederschles.#Requested move 24 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:52, 2 September 2023 (UTC)