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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:21, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cuttin' da Mustard

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I believe the article lacks this fails

WP:GNG due to the lack of coverage from reliable, third party sources. Aoba47 (talk) 00:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to Eastwood International School Beirut. Consensus to merge, but it sounds like the merge has already happened, so I'll just redirect the title. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:39, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eastwood College

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I propose a merge & rename of

Eastwood College with Eastwood International School Beirut as according to this website https://eastwoodschools.com/, they are merely campuses of the one school. Eastwood International School Beirut mentions Eastwood College in its own article along with them both being campuses of the same school. UaMaol (talk) 23:42, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:51, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

George Charalambous

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Actor who has questionable notability. I can't find him in the list of credits for the film he was apparently in (I checked the IMDB link that was there and he wasn't mentioned) All the links I can find are wiki mirrors. Wgolf (talk) 23:30, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As a note I can't find his name on the IMDB-it is very possible he is listed there under another name. Wgolf (talk) 23:44, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep.

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Meadowvale (village)

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Article about a neighbourhood within a city, not

self-published website of a school in the neighbourhood -- which means zero of them were to reliable or notability-supporting sources at all. Bearcat (talk) 23:16, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep. ]
  • Keep: Per Bridger. Also, I found this. --David Tornheim (talk) 22:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, people/stuff aren't usually reported on as being (insert name) of (neighbourhood/subdivision) unless the city is also included, googs has numerous snips of people/stuff being of "Meadowville, Ontario" eg. A National Soul: Canadian Mural Paintings, 1860s-1930s (2002) - "In 1906 Frederick Haines painted a mural for the public school in Meadowvale, Ontario ..", American Peony Scociety Bulletin (1958) - "Miss Minerva Castle, Rowancroft Gardens, Meadovale, Ontario, Canada.", Peel County United Churches - church records, from
    WP:NGEO and is a Keep from me. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:45, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep, Meadowvale is the first Heritage Conservation District in Ontario, a protection status conferred on an entire neighbourhood, from landscape to buildings. It is also the primary subject of a 315 page book. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 00:40, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ming Veevers-Carter

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Notability not asserted, can't find substantive independent sources Reywas92Talk 22:38, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep.

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African People's Socialist Party

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Article has no sources except internal sources and links to another party's website. There appears to be no elected officials and no non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. Toa Nidhiki05 22:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:20, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gangrene of the eyelid

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We do not need articles, or even redirects, for gangrene of every part of the body. Although medical conditions are generally deemed notable, this is not a medical condition, it's just silly. Natureium (talk) 22:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:19, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nelder Dawson

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Another Billy Hathorn Louisianan with no assertion of notability. Sourced to non-independent obituary. A nice resume but a routine job and no significant coverage. Reywas92Talk 21:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:18, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CCS Group

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This draft was moved to mainspace by an editor who is apparently a paid employee of the company, without ever passing through AfC review. As a result, editors have not yet had an opportunity to evaluate whether it is

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:18, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Madhu C. Narayanan

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Filmmaker who falls under too soon. He so far has just one film. Will he be notable enough someday? Perhaps. But for now a delete as he is too soon. Wgolf (talk) 20:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:17, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Constitution Party of Hawaii

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Article only links to two sources that say this party exists. It does not appear to have any elected officers or any non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. Any useful information can be folded into Constitution Party (United States). Toa Nidhiki05 20:31, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. ~ Amory (utc) 00:44, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Debra Kahn Tolchinsky

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As with her husband, whose article was recently deleted at

WP:NOTADVERT compliance anyway. Bearcat (talk) 20:01, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete.

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Working Families Party of Oregon

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Article only links to the websites, a self-published source. It does not appear to have any elected officers or any non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. Any useful information can be folded into the article for the national Working Families Party. Toa Nidhiki05 19:30, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Seems like this is a notable work after all and the text quality issues mentioned in the deletion nomination are being worked on Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:36, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

SkyOS

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I nominated this article for deletion considering the following facts:

(1) It was written like a promotional advertisement to the operating system and the person who created it. After some years after the last AfD, this article still has a lot of problems that evidence the apparent lack of notability and how POV it is.

It is enough to quote some parts to see why it is like an advert:

(1.a) Biased wording.

SkyOS is the result of over ten years of work by Robert Szeleney and volunteers.

The above statement was written alike "how hard was the 'good work' of the developer(s)". An editor unrelated to the subject of the article would have written something like "SkyOS was being developed by ... since/during ..." and cited a source, something this phrase does not have. Of course, it could be rewritten if the article would be notable, but again, here there is no sources.

(1.b) Promotional.

So much attention, in fact, that by the end of that same year, the SkyOS community had tripled in size, and Szeleney had hundreds of active beta testers downloading and testing his twice-monthly releases.

(1.c) Fanatic and "garage band" POV.

A young man at the university, Szeleney and several friends began the "Sky Operating System" as an experiment in OS design. As the years progressed and the other founding members of SkyOS became distant from the project, Szeleney continued work on the operating system in his spare time.

This looks like the same case of

WP:GARAGEBAND
but applied to developers of an obscure operating system as the crew and the software itself as the band.

(1.d) Written from the perspective of the main developer and anecdotal issues unrelated to the article.

Szeleney's full-time job was in automation programming, and he already had a fair understanding of operating system design. But he continued to use SkyOS as a learning device, releasing four versions under an open source license.

Because of significant differences at the source level, Szeleney stopped thinking of what was under development as the fifth version of his operating system, and the name "SkyOS 5.0" was rebranded to simply "SkyOS". A more professional demeanor was taken throughout the project, and Szeleney even considered incorporating under the name "Djinnworks".

Here (I guess the developer himself) wrote what was in his mind but as 3rd person to mask the fact he wrote those quotes himself, trying to show the reader as it was written by someone else.

(2) Almost every source cited is from the (defunct) website of the article's subject, so here we have self-published (

WP:PRIMARY
) sources, therefore the neutrality and factual accuracy could be disputed.

As of 4 March 2019 there are 14 references, from which 12th is the only one independent to the subject and the remaining 13 sources are citations to (archived copies of) pages of skyos.org, the former official website of the operating system. The only independent source is a broken link (can be found in Internet Archive here) and it directed to a comment on a brief entry of OSNews, but not to the article itself, so it could be more questionable as reliable source.

(3) There are parts without any cited reliable source.

History does not have any independent and reliable source, and most of it does not even have any cited source. Subsection "Components", "SkyFS" and "Porting applications" among others also does not cite any sources.

(4) First and second AfDs were flooded by IPs and new-registered users who argued (or better said, voted) things in a way they did not provide any valid argument, such as:

(4.a)

It's a long-standing article (active since at least 2004) about a popular, actively-developed piece of software, and it gives relevant and non-biased information. It is by no means an advertisement. Take a look at the content, and even the page history: nothing here is an advertisement any more than the OS X page is an advertisement. And as to irrelevancy, try searching for articles containing "skyos". At least fifteen computer-related articles mention it ON WIKIPEDIA. I think a user with otherwise no history on Wikipedia has learned the procedures for deletion and is now wasting our time. Alex Forster, 68.32.200.186 (talk) 21:03, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

This user argued that the article is notable because it was created long time ago, because it is supposedly popular (what is popular and how, I do not know, and also without citing references to that claim). Not valid arguments at all. Also saying that it is relevant, non-biased and not-an-advertisement does not magically make it that way. The user after diverted to something unrelated, that is another article (it does not matter if the other article is or not biased, the article discussed in the AfD was "SkyOS", not "OS X"). Finally argues that being mentioned in another Wikpedia articles makes it also notable, but let's consider that is frequent to POV-pushers to try to make their POV articles look like notable by adding links to it from another Wikipedia pages.

(4.b)

Strong Keep Removed the critism section because of complete wrong and therefore irrelevant information. (see articles dicussion page for more details) Robert Szeleney, 90.146.34.54 (talk) 19:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

The main developer himself removed content, what was conflict of interest.

(4.c)

Keep I agree with Peter above me, this is not a form of advertising, if you think so then you need to deleted half the articles on wikipedia.... Liam Dawe — 82.46.55.243 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 23:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC).

Lots of comments like this one above were made, who can be depicted as fanatic, without providing any valid argument.

(4.d)

Keep Seems to be a significant project with enough media coverage. Given the smarts they're showing, I predict that this will be a notable OS when released, so why delete an article we'll have to recreate later? (BTW, SkyOS is not open-source, and is intended to be a commercial product one day. Also, the article needs a bit of copyediting.) CWC 13:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Here we have a personal opinion and connection to the subject. It says that it is "significant" and has "enough media coverage", but where are the sources to confirm that claims? Also it

WP:BALLed
affirming it "will be a more notable". Not valid at all.

(4.e)
Finally let's quote the following statement who depicts well why popularity is not notability and the lack of valid sources. Being linked by <insert here> website does not mean it is notable.

Comment: Wikipedia wiki-linking itself or "Google search results" are invalid forms of notability tests. Wikipedia requires reliable references from valid third parties. The only one approaching a notability test is the said Magazine cover you added. However, this lacks any details about the magazine or the contents, also making it invalid. If you have an real references, page numbers (etc), I suggest you add them to the article. Imacreditcard (talk) 16:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Also please take in mind the "Wikipedia effect": when a completely unknown subject without reliable sources becomes known after it gained an article in Wikipedia, so after that other websites began to talk about the subject on the basis of the Wikipedia coverage, which in turn begins to link to that other sites as the "independent sources".

Therefore, I consider the AfDs did not have any valid argument supporting to keep the article.

After the AfDs, the issues were not fixed at all.

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*Delete Per nom, it is really a bullshit article! --

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Best source I found so far is an article on root.cz [8] (Czech tech news site, mainly Linux focused; has editorial staff and publishing company in background, so it may pass RS test), there are also more short news about SkyOS. English language sources are scarce. Several short news (and longer articles) are on OSNews.com [9], but I´m not sure, how to judge this one (claims to have editorial staff, but may be closer to a blog, it is not clear, how rigorous is editorial control over submissions from external contributors). Other than that, only a passing mention on The Register [10], or article on sites with unclear reliability [11], [12]. So, we have one RS webpage with one solid article and few short news (root.cz) and one maybe (or not) RS with plenty of content about SkyOS (OSNews.com). This could be enough for me to rewrite the article starting with TNT, but notability is clearly borderline (even by my quite low standards). Pavlor (talk) 19:41, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Other sources: short article on zdnet.com [13], 6 slides on Der Standard webpage [14] (apparently the OS has Austrian roots). Pavlor (talk) 09:16, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and improve. Deletion is not clean up, which means your whole Afd is flawed. It is clearly notable. As regarding point 4, Bilby voted keep at the time, so it wasn't as much as IP,SPA fest as you say. I think if @Pavlor: can drastically reduce it in size, a wee article that is cleanly sourced will emerge. scope_creepTalk 09:36, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I started basic rewrite (well, trimming most promotional parts; at half of original article size now), but this article requires a complete rewrite. I will continue by adding proper references, if I find the time (probably not before the end of this week). For now, I will probably only put best sources I found in the "further reading" section, so the article is not entirely without sources. As of notability, I will look into some archived pages (byte.com comes in my mind), at least some coverage would certainly help in this regard. Pavlor (talk) 10:05, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not many high quality sources available, but enough - in my point of view - to establish notability. As the OS is dead now, there is no danger this article will serve as a vehicle for promotion. I will rewrite the article (probably during weekend). Pavlor (talk) 09:24, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Basic article rewrite done. Someone should "anglicize" text I wrote and rewrite the lead. There is not much more I can do to improve the article. Respectfully asking fellow editors
    Editor-1, if this rewrite is sufficient to change their decision. Pavlor (talk) 09:06, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The Der Standard reference (in German) looks like a good source that helps to establish notability. The Root.cz references (in Czech) are rather brief. They are suitable for sourcing information, but they don't really support notability. Axl ¤ [Talk] 12:35, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Does not meet notability criteria Kid Fabulous (talk) 19:06, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, never nominated an article before, so apologies if I'm missing anything out here. Anyway, the subject does not appear to be in any way notable. The only significant references to him are on his own website and a handful of blog postings. As per his website, his philosophical output seems to be complete woo, so I think it is extremely unlikely he has received significant coverage in any reliable sources. Kid Fabulous (talk) 19:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Anyone who feels a redirect is a good compromise can simply

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Canadian Screen Award for Best Hair

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Award with very little notability, receives little to no attention. Prod removed with a claim of what is basically inherited notability (the awards in total are notable, so every individual award is notable). Searching for sources is hampered by the fact that the award is not called the "Canadian Screen Award for Best Hair", but for "Achievement in Hair", but even so there is very little to be found from independent sources, apart from some sources which list this one without further comment (i.e. "passing mentions"). 40 Google hits[15], two passing Google News mentions[16].

Note that, according to the main article, "The Canadian Screen Awards has roughly 130 categories in total. ", so it is not surprising that some will not be really notable: it looks as if of the 100 TV categories, about 14 have a separate article at the moment. So this is not a deletion that will break some complete series.

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No, it's not at all true that you can gauge notability in terms of how many editors are actively working on making the articles good. Most editors, as a rule, only invest any serious attention or work into contemporary topics they can load up with currently web-accessible sourcing, and very few put remotely equivalent effort into older topics that require archival research of any sort — so people not doing the work doesn't speak to notability nearly as much as it speaks to age. Genuinely notable topics that are older, and require digging into newspaper databases or microfilms to reference properly, often have much less work put into them by far fewer people than current pop culture topics do — that's not proof that older topics are inherently less notable, it just proves that most Wikipedians are lazy.
And no, the fact that the information is also present in the by-year article is not an argument against having a by-category article at all, because that's always true of every category presented by any multicategory awards program, including the Oscars and the BAFTAs and the Junos and the Grammys: by definition, the information is always also cross-referenced with by-year articles that place the same information in a different context. So that's not a reason to single this category out for different treatment than other categories get — it would be a reason to completely kibosh ever having any by-category lists at all, because "that information is already in the ceremony articles" is always true of every category article. But the practice has always been that the by-year lists should be cross-referenced with by-category lists, precisely so that a reader who wants to track the history of a specific category can do so in one place instead of having to jump back and forth across the by-year lists — so the only credible argument against this article would be that it's a new category that's only been presented once so far and doesn't have much prior history to list yet, but within one year that won't be true anymore.
And at any rate, film awards aren't in notability competitions with each other. If the CSAs are "less notable than the Oscars", that's only because Canada is a smaller country than the United States — and it's not relevant to notability anyway, because film and television notability depends solely on "top-level national film award", period, and has nothing to do with whether or not that award is as internationally famous beyond its own nation as the Oscars are. A film that won an award from some iteration of the Canadian Film Award → Genie Award → Canadian Screen Award sequence does not fail NFILM just because the CFA/G/CSAs aren't famous in Australia or Kazakhstan — it passes NFILM, because it won the highest level of film award it can win in its own country. So no, the CSAs don't have to compete with other countries' national film or television awards to determine whether they qualify for similar treatment or not: they merely have to be notable period, not more notable than other film or television awards. The
Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Sound Mixing for a Variety Series or Special, for just one example out of many, isn't the subject of any dedicated coverage in its own right either, but just meets the standard of having its results be verifiable within sources that collectively address the overall Emmy Awards program as a whole — but its lack of its own dedicated category-specific coverage is not a reason why it should be excluded from standard practice for award categories either. It comes down entirely to what's the best and most user-friendly way to present the information: by-year lists for people who want to know who won the awards in a given year, crossreferenced with by-category lists for people who want to know who won in a particular category across the years it was presented. Bearcat (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have stopped reading your wall of text when your first line totally missed the point. I said "a topic like this", and further on indicated clearly that I was talking about a current, media-related topic from an English language country. If your reply then starts with "No, it's not at all true that you can gauge notability in terms of how many editors are actively working on making the articles good. Most editors, as a rule, only invest any serious attention or work into contemporary topics they can load up with currently web-accessible sourcing, and very few put remotely equivalent effort into older topics that require archival research of any sort", it makes no sense in spending more time replying to strawmen arguments. A cursory glance seems to indicate that the remainder of your text is a continuation of the otherstuffexists line, coupled with some irrelevant statements about how the award conveys notability (I note that the ]
I have missed zero points. Firstly, you specifically equated editor effort with notability in the context of editors not putting the work into historical content that requires archival research to complete — so my pointing out that editor effort is not an infallible measure of notability was not missing the point, because that is exactly the context in which the point even came up to be discussed.
Secondly, NFILM does not say or even imply that notability deriving from Cannes attaches only to the "Palme D'or, Camera D'or, or Grand Prix" specifically, while deprecating any other Cannes award as unable to make a film notable — for one thing, the body of NFILM does not actually contain the word Cannes at all. In a footnote, those Cannes awards get mentioned as examples of notable film awards that satisfy NFILM #3, but that footnote does not say or imply that they are the only awards that satisfy NFILM #3. All of Cannes' other award categories besides those three still have Wikipedia articles despite not being named in that footnote, and are still accepted as notability claims for a film as long as the article is properly sourced. The BAFTAs aren't named in that footnote at all, but are still accepted as a notability-making award for a film. The César Awards in France are not named in that footnote at all, but are still accepted as a notability-making award for a film. The
Toronto International Film Festival is not named in that footnote, but its awards are still accepted as notability-makers for films. And on and so forth: the footnote cherrypicks a few representative examples for the sake of brevity, not for the sake of removing notability from all other awards it hasn't directly named.
The core point is still, however, that almost no individual category presented by any multicategory awards program ever actually gets its own dedicated reliable source attention, analyzing it as its own standalone thing independently of the overall ceremony's overall coverage. Even at the Oscars, the categories mostly get verified by the overall coverage of the overall ceremony, but rarely if ever get their own special analysis as their own standalone thing independently of the Oscars as a whole. So no, each individual category does not have to independently clear GNG as the subject of its own category-specific analysis and coverage — because the overall awards program is far too large to cram all the relevant content into a single article, the most user-friendly way to present film (or literary) awards in Wikipedia is to have a by-year article that lists all of the categories presented in that year, cross-referenced with a by-category article that lists all of the winners and nominees in that category across the years.
It's not "OTHERSTUFFEXISTS", either: this has always been standard practice for categories presented by notable multicategory film, television or literary award ceremonies. The only thing that's required is that the category is verifiable in the same sources that are supporting the by-year articles, because having crossreferenced by-year and by-category articles is the user-friendliest way of formatting our coverage of the overall awards program. Each individual category does not have to show that it has received special dedicated category-specific attention, analyzing it as its own standalone thing independently of the overall ceremony, to qualify as notable — it merely has to be verifiable in the same sources that are supporting the notability of the ceremony as a whole. Bearcat (talk) 18:04, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Firstly, the parent article of this is Canadian Screen Awards, which does not contain a repetition of the same content. And secondly, individual categories presented as part of multi-category awards programs do not need to have their own independent category-specific coverage that analyzes them in isolation — I've already explained why above — all they have to be is verifiable in the sources that support the notability of the Canadian Screen Awards as a whole. Bearcat (talk) 15:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. All over the map. There is no consensus as to whether this meets GNG or not. There are those who support the idea that GNG is only criteria by which to judge notability, and there are those who feel that Wikipedia should present encyclopedic information on topics that are deemed inherently notable (example: Olympic athletes, but in this case those meeting FOOTY), no matter depth of coverage. I doubt further discussion will resolve the dichotomy. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 13:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kelly Divine

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Non-notable porn star. Only has nominations for minor awards and mainstream appearances were minor as well. She's not even listed on IMDb for the two episodes of the TV series she was supposedly appeared in. Fails GNG, Pornbio and other applicable notability guidelines. Also the article has BLP problems with supposed real name of performer and unsourced name of her young child. Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 17:57, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to Bradford Lyttle. Black Kite (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

United States Pacifist Party

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Article only links to self-published sources. It does not appear to have any elected officers or any non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. Toa Nidhiki05 18:05, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: I don't think this should be delete, just improved upon LoneWolf1992 (talk) 20:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/redirect/partial merge to Bradford Lyttle. Can't find evidence this has received substantive coverage or that it's an actual party, it's just one dude's amateurish attempt at activism. Reywas92Talk 22:18, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think redirecting it to Bradford Lyttle would work. (talk) 2:07, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Bradford Lyttle. His lyttle party never amounted to anything. A Proquest news archive search turns up a single article about a lecture he gave on pacifism, which includes the sentence, " In 1983, he founded the United States Pacifist Party, a small political group marked by an anti-military and anti-aggression platform," a handful of letters-to-the-editor , and a couple of candidate event listings. total 10 hits in the search over 4 decades, a testimony to this Party's lack of notability. A gBooks search is similar. typical hit: Rebels and Renegades: A Chronology of Social and Political Dissent in the United States : "A sampling of third parties active today would seem to confirm that lesson: there are the Common Good Party, the New Liberty Party, the Working Families Party, the Freedom Socialist Party, the United States Pacifist Party—all largely ignored ..."E.M.Gregory (talk) 08:15, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:13, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Christian Liberty Party

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Article only links to self-published sources as well as a dead link to election results. It does not appear to have any elected officers or any non-trivial coverage in reliable sources. Toa Nidhiki05 18:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:13, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Article only has one source and does not appear to have any elected officers. It also apparently is defunct and doesn’t seem to have any coverage in reliable, non-trivial sources. Toa Nidhiki05 17:58, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. ~ Amory (utc) 00:51, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anne Renaud

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primary sources that aren't support for notability at all; two unrecoverable dead links in limited-distribution media outlets that would be fine for supplementary verification if she'd already cleared GNG on stronger sources, but aren't really makers of a GNG pass all by themselves if they're the best sources on offer; and a short book review in a library association newsletter. Nothing stated in the article gets her over the more achievement-based author criteria, but the sources aren't strong enough to give her the "notable just because sources exist" pass either. Bearcat (talk) 17:57, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was withdrawn by WikiDan61 (nominator) based on prior AFD results.

The Powers of the Earth

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Non-notable book. This apparently self-published book (Morlock Publishing lists only titles by Corcoran on its website[1]) won the Prometheus Award for 2018, but otherwise I cannot find any significant independent coverage of the book. The Prometheus Award is not recognized as a major book award, either for general literature, or even for science fiction literature. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:42, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Withdrawn, based on prior AFD results. (Hadn't seen that before nominating!) WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Happy to restore/draft if he ends up playing ~ Amory (utc) 00:46, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jake Kielly

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Non-notable amateur ice hockey player who fails to meet

WP:GNG. Can be recreated when/if he ever does. DJSasso (talk) 16:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep.

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Independent Party of Delaware

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Only one source here does not link to election results or the party website. A quick google search failed to turn up any significant, non-trivial coverage. Toa Nidhiki05 16:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete and redirect to Independent American Party. Black Kite (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Independent American Party of Hawaii

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Article is unsourced and has no real content. Does not appear to be notable or to have been covered in a non-trivial manner in sources. Toa Nidhiki05 16:29, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:11, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hawaii Independence Party

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Article has no sources and barely any content. Does not appear to be notable, nor does it seem have to have had non-trivial coverage. Toa Nidhiki05 16:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 17:05, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Market Mall

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Minor local mall. Was deleted back in 2014, and nothing has changed to show it passes

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  • Delete per the previous AfD discussion and the lack of change in the subject's notability since then. signed, Rosguill talk 17:13, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as a non-descript mall, which seems to no longer exist? Thus no likelihood of further—or any—coverage in RS. I assume the reason it hasn't been G4'd is the amount of time that's passed? A good idea, in any case, as we can now establish a new consensus as to the subject's notability. ——SerialNumber54129 17:19, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Yes, Serial Number 54129 - that's the reason I didn't request speedy, since it's been almost 5 years since the last AfD. I don't like wasting editors' time if there's no need, but I felt that the length of time was sufficient enough that a new discussion was warranted.Onel5969 TT me 17:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely; and, of course, arguably it saves time in the future, when G4 will have (presumably) become available. ——SerialNumber54129 17:52, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy deleted in accordance with

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Repixeling

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This is some covert

WP:ESSAY definitely applies. Praxidicae (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep.

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Concha Gómez

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While accomplished, doesn't meet either

WP:NSCHOLAR. I can't find any citation count, and she doesn't appear to meet any of the other criteria for NSCHOLAR. Onel5969 TT me 12:40, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to Carnegie Mellon University. Sandstein 17:05, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Oakland Review

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Prod removed by article creator. However, no independent sources showing notability.

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Keep. Seems notable as multiple professors have been involved with the publication (e.g. ]
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Comment. Notability for
magazine or journal media mentions award-winning work and frequent citations as possible standards for notability. I'm not sure if the AWP's undergraduate journal award finalist position would count as "award-winning" but the journal is also cited in various poet-bios on the internet. Doing a quick search showed that poems in its issue had won the 2018 Academy of American Poets Prize ("Coumbite" according to the award page and "Carol" according to the list of poems on the journal article's website). I would say merge, but I don't know how to put all of this into the Carnegie Mellon Wikipedia article. Userqio (talk) 14:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Delete. Lacks coverage in RS. Or, merge to Carnegie Mellon. Citrivescence (talk) 22:21, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 13:09, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

International Policy Digest

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I was removing refs to International Policy Digest, a website that invites submissions from the general public and publishes them with a disclaimer that the content isn't reliable. Then I opened our article on it, finding it has zero references and just an external link to the site itself. It has been tagged for lack of references for more than a two years,[21] and no references have been supplied. I preformed a

NOT a promotional or indiscriminate business directory. Alsee (talk) 10:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Delete. It's not notable. 84percent (talk) 12:13, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I couldn't find anything to support keeping it. Schazjmd (talk) 22:05, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 11:36, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Àkin

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The subject of this article fails

WP:MUSICBIO. All of the sources in the article are primary sources. A Google search of him doesn't show him being discussed in reliable sources independent of him. The award he won is not notable.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 01:04, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep has won a number of international awards and has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources such as Pulse Nigeria and it is a strong sign of notability that he is being interviewed in reliable sources Atlantic306 (talk) 21:18, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral: While Pulse is a reliable source, from experience in the Nigerian perspective,
    WP:GNG. I'm not confident of the significance of the most prestigious awards won, "African Entertainment Award" and " Independent Music Award". Let me also point that there is another better referenced Nigerian artiste that goes by a similar name, "Akin Shuga". The reason I'm not giving an outright delete is that there is a chance he's more proclaimed overseas than locally, and I'm not sure I've gone through enough Canadian sources. HandsomeBoy (talk) 14:19, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 13:03, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DIPP

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The subject of this article fails

WP:MUSICBIO. A Google search of him doesn't show him being discussed in reliable sources independent of him.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 00:57, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. All "delete" !votes air concerns about the article's current state. However, AFD is not for cleanup and Spinningspark presents several RS that can be used to improve the article. Randykitty (talk) 11:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Greenhouse gas emissions in Kentucky

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Unexplained prod removal. Whole article is a selection of statistics (

List of U.S. states by carbon dioxide emissions. Reywas92Talk 00:52, 1 April 2019 (UTC) Reywas92Talk 00:52, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep, complete failure of
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This is an easily demonstrable notable topic;
coal seam fires and the greenhouse gases they produce are a big issue in Kentucky. There have been several published studies into this [22][23][24]. Numerous other scholarly papers can be found on greenhouse gases in the south-eastern United States from which information on Kentucky can be extracted. Greenhouse Gases: Worldwide Impacts discusses at length plans to store CO2 underground in Kentucky. SpinningSpark 18:28, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete When readers click on the link I think they would be expecting to find info about the current situation. So I think it is wasting the reader's time to have info which the reader cannot rely on as current (at least to the past few years) or not. If someone has the time and inclination to update this article they might think it instead more useful to update Greenhouse gas emissions by the United StatesChidgk1 (talk) 12:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • We don't delete articles because they can be improved per
    WP:NOTNEWS which says the diametric opposite of expecting to find info about the current situation, namely Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events and is also policy. If the greenhouse gases in Kentucky in 1990 were notable then, they are still notable now. And by the way, do you have any actual evidence that this information is out of date? The coal fires I referred to above are a major, possibly the major, source of greenhouse gas emission in Kentucky and they are still burning now, decades later. SpinningSpark 18:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete or draftify The article merely lists (in prose) measurements from a report. No context, no examination of impact or importance of any of those measurements. Not to say that greenhouse gasses in Kentucky aren't deserving of an article, but this isn't it without significant improvement.
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:35, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of wars involving Northern Cyprus

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Northern Cyprus was established de facto after the Turkish invasion in 1974 and de jure (leaving aside the actual legality of it) in 1983, therefore it cannot have participated in any conflict prior to that; its participation in the War on Terror is unreferenced, and as an unrecognized puppet state, highly unlikely at that Constantine 08:52, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Serbs of Finland

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There is no source to prove that this group of people has any notability. Also, the cited source says that there are 244 people born in Serbia living in Finland as of 2018. But, that doesn't mean they are all Serbs. I guess most of them are Albanians born in Kosovo, and this article is about Serbs. So, it is not clear if there are any Serbs in Finland at all. Vanjagenije (talk) 06:47, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Can't really see Finland benefit from a mention of the number of every nationality living there. I mean, either we'd specifically mention the Serbs for no particular reason or we'd have a very long list. That's probably even worse than letting it have it's own article: Finland is a pretty widely read article, and things mentioned there should be important. /Julle (talk) 23:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Renée French (actress)

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Actress with just 2 roles. Only one of them is even on Wikipedia. It seems that her notable role is in a segment of an anthology film called Coffee and Cigarettes and if not deleted should be a redirect to there. Can't find anything else that cries notability for her. Wgolf (talk) 00:39, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect probably. I'm not even sure that the Renée French who was in Coffee and Cigarettes is the same one who was in Nowhere Fast - I found this book, Jim Jarmusch: Music, Words and Noise with a chapter called "Voices: John Lurie", where
    WP:NACTOR. I don't find anything about her in a google or Newspapers.com search either - not an easy name to search for, as there are several other Renée Frenches, including a writer, a singer, a teacher, a Miss America .... but none that seem to be this one. However, she did have a significant role in Coffee and Cigarettes, so redirecting to Coffee_and_Cigarettes#Renée would make sense (and perhaps including the source I have found as a reference for that section? although it can't be considered independent). RebeccaGreen (talk) 08:31, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep.

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2018 West Footscray warehouse fire

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Per

WP:NOTNEWS, run-of-the-mill fire that is of no long-lasting importance other than to the local community. There are probably tens of such fires a week around the world. Stephen 02:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 10:31, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

National Express West Midlands routes 66 & 66A

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Non notable bus route. There's a lot of unsourced information with regards to the Gravelly Industrial Park diversion (NXWM would've put out a press release but I can't find anything) and while information on previous vehicles used is slightly interesting, it is uncited and not particularly pertinent to the article as a whole. RÆDWALD E|T 00:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I'm going to hold off on voting until I understand this issue better. But how are these bus routes (even the other ones within the Midlands category) remotely eligible for inclusion in WP? All of these seem remarkably non-notable. Skirts89 08:33, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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