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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:32, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of peers retired and removed under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014

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The list of people who have resigned from the House of Lords is already absurdly long, and it is only going to get longer every year. What's the point? It may have seemed like a novelty when the first resignations began happening, but this law has been in force for nine years now. No other article about a legislature maintains a list of everyone who has resigned from it. Richard75 (talk) 23:47, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What about having a yearly one Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 00:04, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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What about having it in list of decade of retired peers Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 14:19, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That would help with the length, but it still doesn't deal with notability. Why does this list need to exist at all? Richard75 (talk) 15:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Suport: Doesn't like a noteworthy list to maintain.2601:249:9301:D570:909A:F52B:67C2:D58 (talk) 01:13, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  What are you supporting? deletion or keeping? 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:12, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as a pretty clear failure of
  WP:CARGO applies here. I also note that the main article doesn't even appear to be notable on its own. Sources in it are all primary, and I found very very little discussing it on its own, and when I did, it was usually in the broader context of previous reform efforts generally. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:12, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Delete I think is should be done by decade which may work as life peers are separated by 1958-1979, Thatcher-Major, New Labour, C(ameron), M(ay), J(ohnson), T(russ) and S(unak).

That doesn't address notability though. Richard75 (talk) 15:39, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK but it would work if you had them in decades. Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 22:04, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Deleted I created these as this maybe the solution:

List of peers retired under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014 (2014–2020)

List of peers retired under the House of Lords Reform Act 2014 (2021–present)

It is easier to maintain and just keep up to date with either the deaths and the future retirements.

Earl of Sutton Coldfield (talk) 13:21, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m not convinced that those meet notability standards, seeing as how they are essentially forks of this article. 64.107.163.147 (talk) 16:16, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:30, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

St Fidelis College (Lucknow, India)

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We are now a lot stricter on schools since the last AfD. Unreferenced and no coverage to meet

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• Delete. No citations. The tone has issues. A search on Google produces one mention from okay sources: [1] (TOI is considered generally reliable when it comes to non-political matters). However, this is the only thing I can find in a quick browse, and it doesn't amount to fixing or keeping the article. --TheLonelyPather (talk) 14:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete can't find many sources apart from two TOI (first linked above ), however both are linked to the same event and don't necessarily talk about the school — Karnataka ^talk 16:09, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:17, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Naked Capitalism

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This article frankly reads like an advertisement for the subject and, as of now, it's unclear that it meets

Of the fourteen cited sources: four ([10]-[13]) are interviews with the website's creator; two ([1] and [6]) are About pages from the website; two are posts on the website itself ([8] and [14]); one ([7]) is a self-published

One thing that becomes immediately clear upon going through these sources is that they lack significant coverage of the website - often only briefly mentioning the website as a product of its creator, without any further detail. There seems to be more information about the website's creator than the website itself, so if no more significant coverage from reliable sources can be found, maybe a short stub about her could be salvaged from this. But in its current state, I don't think this article meets GNG and as such, am recommending it for deletion. Grnrchst (talk) 12:13, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep, clearly notable (no comment on the quality of the article's current sourcing). Just a few minutes' Googling:
  • Included among
    TIME Magazine's "25 Best Financial Blogs". [2]
  • Financial Times [3] interview with "Yves Smith" specifically about the blog (Google for "On Wednesday, FT Alphaville met Yves Smith, proprietor of the blog Naked Capitalism" to let Google take you past the paywall)
  • Listed as #1 most influential finance blog by Business Insider [4]
  • Institutional Investor (magazine) [5]
  • Risk (magazine) [6]ProQuest link Etc. --Andreas JN466 00:55, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• I've done some remedial work on the article. Note that this blog is archived by the Library of Congress. [7][8]
• It also has about 100 mentions in the
  Wall Street Journal, many of them "Caught on the Web" recommendations. Andreas JN466 13:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  Delete. Even using the sourcing given above, it's one in a list of items. Nothing at length about it... I can't find much for sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 17:41, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @

  WP:Library. The Financial Times interview article (1,750 words) actually was one of a series about the blog (final instalment here. Even the TIME listing is over 200 words. There are brief endorsements in the New York Times like this one

  . I can have a further look around, but even just with those I would have thought GNG is well met.

  The one thing that does make things difficult is that Smith has written so many news articles that it's hard to find stuff about her and her blog in Google News. A lot of the hits are links to articles by her, with the author info mentioning the blog. (Note that

  Yves Smith – a pun on Adam Smith – redirects to Naked Capitalism.) Andreas JN466 19:49, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply

  ]

  Honestly these sources just confirm to me that, if this article is to exist, it should be about Yves Smith. None of these sources refer to Naked Capitalism as anything other than Smith's blog. It isn't clearly independently notable from her, although she is clearly a notable figure herself. -- Grnrchst (talk) 10:47, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  As I see it, the sources are primarily about the blog. Take the TIME and CNBC listings, or the Financial Times interview, which is all about the blog, or the Institutional Investor piece. It's the blog that makes Smith notable, not Smith that makes the blog notable. Andreas JN466 11:11, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Move to Susan Webber (blogger) and keep at that title. BD2412 T 18:06, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @BD2412 The problem with that solution is that even though Naked Capitalism was started by Webber (a.k.a. Yves Smith), and she remains the most high-profile contributor, it is a group blog and is indexed as such here for example by EconAcademics.org (a site hosted by the Research Division of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis.)

  A past version of the article included a bunch of contributing writers (another editor deleted them because they were unsourced). Some of those contributors have been referred to or had their NC posts republished by third-party sources; e.g. Matt Stoller here, David Dayen (see [9], Alternet running a piece previously published on NC, also cf. [10]), Philip Pilkington ([11][12]), Nathan Tankus ([13]), Jerri-Lynn Scofield [14] etc.

  So I think the solution is to bring the contributing writers back into the article, with references, and make clear to the reader that it is a group blog.

  (Indeed, if you look at https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/ today or its archives, posts by Smith are in the minority.)

  So could I ask you to give it another thought? Best, Andreas JN466 14:17, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • My impression is that the most notable aspect of the blog is its founder, and everything we currently have about it can fit in a section of an article on its found, with a redirect tagged with {{R with possibilities}}. BD2412 T 19:55, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment The article has been almost completely revised and re-sourced since the AfD nomination. --Andreas JN466 01:03, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The article has been significantly improved since it was nominated. Naked Capitalism has received widespread coverage over a significant period of time. Thriley (talk) 15:29, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: The article has changed substantially since the AfD nomination, thanks to the excellent and dedicated work of Andreas. As their edits have demonstrated clear notability, with significant coverage in reliable sources, my concerns have been thoroughly addressed and I no longer believe the article warrants deletion. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:41, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, as evidenced by Grnrchst, this has met
  WP:HEY. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 22:20, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Frank Feys

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A biographical article about an acting tutor and working actor whose teaching work and film/TV roles seem significantly short of meeting the

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:37, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kang Kuk-chol (footballer, born 1988)

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Article fails WP:GNG. Bear in mind there are two other footballers with the same name. Simione001 (talk) 23:08, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 20:49, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I've no idea what to do with this one - there's no real coverage of him, but that's probably because he's from North Korea. From a pure policy perspective, it should probably be deleted, but I've seen several other stub articles for footballers with people strongly on the 'keep' side, even though they played for like three seasons and media coverage is limited to a couple archived newspaper blurbs.

But forget all that for a second - while starting a search on him, I discovered that there are three different North Korean footballers named "Kang Kuk-chol." They were all born within about a decade of each other, are almost exactly the same height, all play the same position (defender), and two of them even allegedly played on the national team in the same year. If that's accurate, that's absolutely hilarious. If there weren't headshots of them on the (very sparse) source links, I wouldn't believe it. That said, it's North Korea, so I'm not really inclined to believe it. Are we sure at least two of these aren't the same guy? Kalethan (talk) 15:57, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It wouldn't surprise me if two of them were indeed the same. North Korean football is such a mystery to me and I'd love it to explore it further but you never know what sources to actually trust. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:53, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Searching Kang's name and football in Korean yields no useful sources, which perhaps isn't surprising since he plays football in North Korea. Unfortunately, this means the article is unlikely to ever satisfy
  WP:GNG. Jogurney (talk) 12:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to The Kelly Family. ✗plicit 23:36, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Kelly (singer)

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Seems non-notable Charsaddian (talk) 22:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to The Kelly Family. I should point out that the nomination needs a far more precise argument, and the nominator seems not to have noticed that Mr. Kelly is a member of a reasonably notable band that would be an obvious redirect target. But it turns out that Mr. Kelly really is non-notable outside of his longtime family band. All of his media mentions are as a member of the band and I can find no reliable coverage for any of his solo albums or related activities. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:19, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also note that three of Jimmy Kelly's siblings also have their own articles that could probably be redirected as well. Joey Kelly may have a little potential due to getting some notice as an athlete outside of the band. I'm less sure about Kathy Kelly (musician) and Patricia Kelly because each is like Jimmy, with only band-related coverage and some solo albums that received little independent notice. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:25, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to The Kelly Family.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:35, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Malina Pardo

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The subject has earned at least four caps for the

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  WP:TOOSOON. Pro-club academy player who's still playing as a college graduate; injured in college play in 2021 and national team play in 2022, redshirted 2022. Might become notable, might not. -Socccc (talk) 15:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Comment. Separately, student-run media are considered WP:RS (specifically
  WP:RSSM) if editorially independent in content, which Niner Times appears to be via its student-run editorial board. That linked piece isn't an athletic department press release. A more relevant guideline against notability is in RSSM: "A topic which can be sourced exclusively to student media, with no evidence of wider coverage in mass market general interest media, is not likely to be viewed as notable." -Socccc (talk) 15:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  Student-run media are absolutely not considered independent of topics related to their school. See the unanimous consensus here. I've clarified this at RSSM. JoelleJay (talk) 21:44, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 19:43, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, sourcing does not establish GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 21:46, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Yet another building with no evidence of notability. Basically impossible to search for sources due to the generic title. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:53, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• So it actually exists under this name [17], and also
  Union Properties PJSC. I have just created a similar redirect for its alternate name, if the article ends up kept it should be updated. —siroχo 21:15, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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  WP:NOTDIR. I suspect if I were to clean it up it would no longer mention the project, but I guess until that happens a redirect there would make sense. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:22, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 22:37, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Anthony (San Diego rapper)

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Non-notable individual, nothing found in RS we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 20:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete - Provided references are promotional, passing mentions, and/or primary sources. Article creator included an AfC tag in this creation--article was not approved at AfC. Creator's draft
  WP:G13. --Finngall ^talk 20:30, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - Nearly every reference is a promotion. The references from news sources are not about the subject, only things he happens to be attached to. The article is an unabashed hagiography. "Ryan started making clothes that resembled his music". Give me a break!Agentdoge (talk) 20:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete
  WP:BASIC [18] and [19]. —siroχo 21:32, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete per nom and above fails
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The result was redirect‎ to 2019–20 Plymouth Argyle F.C. season#Stastics. Star Mississippi 22:37, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Jude Boyd

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Seems non-notable Charsaddian (talk) 20:12, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to 2019–20 Plymouth Argyle F.C. season#Stastics, not independently notable. GiantSnowman 19:42, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect as above - narrowing to suitable sources, coverage is far too narrow. Nosebagbear (talk) 19:03, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to 2019–20 Coventry City F.C. season#Appearances. Star Mississippi 22:37, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Bartlett (footballer)

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Only one appearance so far in his career. Does not look notable Charsaddian (talk) 20:03, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Redirect to 2019–20 Coventry City F.C. season#Appearances, not independently notable. GiantSnowman 19:41, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to 2019–20 Coventry City F.C. season#Appearances per above. I only found minor coverage like this. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:58, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Yakuza (band)

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Article citations are mostly self-promotion (e.g. from

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• Keep. Here are examples of coverage from reliable sources: Kendrick, Monica (2023-05-17). "Chicago metal explorers Yakuza return with Sutra, their first album in more than a decade". Chicago Reader. Retrieved 2023-07-24. and "Yakuza: Of Seismic Consequence". Pitchfork. Retrieved 2023-07-24. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:02, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Thank you. Don't know why I didn't find these when Google-searching this band. I retract this AfD nomination. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:25, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, has significant coverage. Fulmard (talk) 03:42, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lexsynergy

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Non-notable corporation. Sourcing is largely primary or PR ish items. Oaktree b (talk) 19:39, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Delete. I'm unsure about if the article fails notability guidelines, however the whole thing is written like an advertisement. The Leadership section is basically a resume introduction. Article should probably be deleted or entirely rewritten. Agentdoge (talk) 20:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - An article should
  reference-bombed, but it should not be necessary for a reader to read the references. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:23, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Delete - I waded through 55 citations in the Lexsynergy article so you don't have to. I also did an extensive reliable source web search. The result was nothing reliable and extensive enough sufficient to establish notability.

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Keep. I don't believe the article fails notability guidelines, the company has been referenced by many third parties including non-profit industry bodies and other approved Wikipedia pages. It follows the same structure and referencing as other companies in the industry listed on Wikipedia: GoCompare, CSC and Markmonitor. Leadership and Philanthropy sections have been removed to maintain non-bias. KyleGouveiaPortsmouth (talk) 07:46, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The majority of sources are from industry publications, non-profit industry bodies and domain registries. KyleGouveiaPortsmouth (talk) 11:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@KyleGouveiaPortsmouth, I'm not saying you're wrong to keep but I'm trying to reconcile what you're saying about the refs versus my understanding of our current guidelines which usually call for some sort of in-depth coverage. I'm sympathetic but I need to be convinced - can you help reconcile our guidelines with the point you're making?

As for the other companies, if they have similar problems then they're vulnerable to deletion, too. Someone's going to throw out "

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS

" to shoot down comments like yours. (I have some problems with the pejorative way people use that one, but I digress)

If you can't muster a convincing reply today, then I see two ways forward:

1. Invoke
   WP:IAR. In my experience, that's sort of a Hail Mary pass
   in deletion discussions.
2. Draftify this article for now, then start an
   WP:GEOLAND
   ). Maybe we need one for companies like this, too.

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Thank you for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it. I do not want to Invoke

WP:IAR, I would like to do this properly and inline with Wikipedia’s rules. Please see below for my convincing in relation to notability guidelines, if we need to go down the RfC

, then I would love to be able to assist.

General notability guidelines:

1.Presumed. There are over 30 reliable sources from industry bodies and domain registries, some of which also list Lexsynergy on their Wikipedia page, meaning it is is not an Orphan.

2. Significant coverage. Only one source is from the Lexsynergy website.

3. Reliable. The majority of sources are secondary, from well-established news outlets or from industry verified (via non-profit industry regulator) vendors.

Subject-specific guidelines (organizations and companies):

1. Lexsynergy have attracted the notice of reliable sources unrelated to the organization or product, such as well-established news outlets.

2. Smaller organizations and their products can be notable without being synonyms with fame. Lexsynergy have won several awards and are referenced across the internet and Wikipedia as an accredited registrar.

3. There are examples of substantial coverage, including reports by Industry bodies, providers and regulators. KyleGouveiaPortsmouth (talk) 16:15, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Significant coverage is different from independence from the subject. Significant coverage requires that the coverage is in-depth. Please see

WP:ORGDEPTH, which provides a lot of helpful guidance. ARandomName123 (talk) 00:31, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply

]

• Delete: A random selection of references seems to show that most sources are either listings and provide no
  WP:NORG. ARandomName123 (talk) 00:27, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Leesi Gabriel Gborogbosi

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Non-notable businessperson, somewhat flowery language in the sourcing used. Oaktree b (talk) 19:37, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Mojo Hand (talk) 02:38, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nothando Hlophe

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Beyond being the wife of a famous person, I can't find notability as a singer. No mentions in RS. Oaktree b (talk) 19:35, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep as all of the sources refer to her singing career.. only one source recalls her marriage to a minor royal. She is most notable for being a gospel singer. Is her husband even famous? He doesn’t have a Wikipedia article. Seems like a strange claim to make.. — Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 02:55, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment an article in the
  Mpumalanga News, titled Praise with Khululugcobo, is about her career (she is the lead singer of the praise and Khululugcobo). This this article in Eswatini Observer is entirely about her return to the stage after taking a two year hiatus due to the covid-19 pandemic. This article in the The Herald, titled Swazi gospel singer Nothando Hlophe promotes new album on PE visit, is entirely about her music career. Are these newspapers not reliable sources that mention her notability as a singer? -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 13:22, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Keep. Seems like a notable singer who is generating significant coverage in the news. CT55555(talk) 02:50, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as per the reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion such as national newspapers including the Swaziland Observer that together show a pass of
  WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 19:27, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:34, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Austin Forkner

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Not finding discussion of this person in RS, only websites related to the sports that aren't RS. Oaktree b (talk) 19:34, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Delete: A
    WP:BEFORE check comes up with only 1 source which could pass GNG.If other sources can be found I could be persuaded to change my vote. [[20]] User:Let'srun 00:13, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Weak delete due to a lack of independent RS coverage.

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The result was keep‎. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 04:57, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Five Mile House (Illinois)

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Non-notable historical building. Not listed on the NRHP [21]. Sourcing is all primary. Appears PROMO for a tourist attraction. Oaktree b (talk) 19:28, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep Consdering the AfD posting was the third-ever edit to this new page, and the page is only sourced to primary sources, a good
  WP:BEFORE search is necessary and it's crystal clear this house comes up often in multiple local news sources (newspaper and television), and has been referenced in several books. There's a chance the coverage as a whole doesn't add up to GNG, but there's definitely coverage out there, and I haven't even searched old newspapers yet. SportingFlyer T·C 14:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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• Keep Historical buildings don't have to be on the NRHP to be notable, and this one has plenty of coverage in non-primary sources: see [22] [23] [24] [25] [26]. It's included in the Illinois Historic Sites Survey Inventory, though their database is under construction so finding info is a bit of a pain right now. It's also been referenced in books, as SportingFlyer mentioned. The article needs cleanup and better sourcing, but AfD isn't cleanup. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 17:06, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:33, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kasi Kelly

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Does not meet

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  Delete no sourcing found for this person, who must pass GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 19:42, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Lacks the in-depth coverage needed to meet
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Elyzabeth Pham

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Non-notable former beauty pagent contestant. Does not meet the

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  Delete no sourcing found for this person, unless she married Sysqo (plenty of coverage about his wife). Oaktree b (talk) 19:44, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Earl Thomas with Paddy Milner & the Big Sounds

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Completely unsourced article. Seems non-notable Charsaddian (talk) 18:31, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  Delete, no sourcing found, no critical reviews, hardly anything found for the band either. Oaktree b (talk) 19:45, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Based on a True Story (Paddy Milner album)

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Seems non-notable. Charsaddian (talk) 18:26, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Paddy Milner

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Multiple issues tag since 2011. Seems non-notable Charsaddian (talk) 18:19, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  Delete I don't see much for mentions beyond various musical performances he's given in Gnews. Gsearch is straight to social media. Willing to revisit if someone can track down some sort of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 18:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Trevor Pyke (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination

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Article fails

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• Redirect to
  WP:ANYBIO; you need to either win a big award or get multiple nominations. For Das Boot, he won the German Film Award (top German film award) and the Motion Picture Sound Editors' Golden Reel Award in addition to his Oscar nomination. Das Boot set the standard for sound editing for submarine movies, a genre where the soundscape dominates.^[27]

The German article has more information:

WP:IMDB), or his terse 2-sentence paid obituary. I found no good refs except some tiny little bits.^[28]

Hence the redirect; we just don't have enough to build an article with.

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The Koldau article was interesting and while it never mentioned Pyke it is some coverage of his work that is helpful to notability. It would be helpful to have a source for the two awards mentioned. Gab4gab (talk) 15:17, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@

Das Boot (film)#Accolades. And, yes, I'm a submarine movie aficionado, so I very much enjoyed that Koldau article

, too.

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By the way, I'm amazed Das Boot didn't win Oscars for its sound and score -- they really set the tone for a great film (as Koldau noted).

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• Keep and tag for improvement or redirect per reasons above - if it is redirected then someone can hopefully improve this page in the future.DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 09:55, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Clearly does meet
  WP:ANYBIO #1. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:13, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
  ]

  @

  WP:RS

  to build it?

  -- A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 15:48, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  It's a

  WP:STUB. Nothing wrong with them. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:22, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply

  ]

  I agree. If it can be expanded and further sourced that would be amazing, obviously, but if not it still meets notability standards and should stay. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 21:46, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to
  WP:ANYBIO, the sourcing just isn't there for a good article. We can redirect for now and restore/expand the article if and when sources are found. --MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 14:33, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply
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Walking on Eggshells

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Completely unsourced article. Seems non-notable Charsaddian (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Susan Binau

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Delete. Does not meet

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Delete, very PROMO. Sources 17-19 are synth. They don't discuss this person, only the sound method used in treatments. Too many sources to wade through in Danish, no article in any other language wiki is a red flag. Oaktree b (talk) 19:48, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]