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The result was no consensus‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 07:25, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Temoc

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Was turned into a redirect due to having no independent sources before I brought it back. I think this does deserve some discussion because there are a lot of mascot pages that are sourced similarly to Temoc. Okmrman (talk) 21:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment perhaps the article could be broadened to be about "student life" in general? A lot of the article is about topics only tangentially related to the athletic mascot.
    Walsh90210 (talk) 16:25, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge‎ to College Basketball on ABC#Commentators. Liz Read! Talk! 22:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of College Basketball on ABC personalities

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WP:RS, 506sports is a forum and the ESPN now redirects to the main page, neither doing anything to establish notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 21:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Merge. A few things here: I want to quickly address some of the arguments presented by the nominator.
    WP:AOAL, combined with the above, merging this list as suggested by Conyo14 (talk · contribs) seems be the best course of action. Bgv. (talk) 02:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Comment Changed my vote to merge per the previous comment. Let'srun (talk) 19:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Riccardo Genovese

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, an Italian rugby union player, to meet

WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was routine transfer news (1, 2, 3, etc.). JTtheOG (talk) 18:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Justinmind (software)

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Fluffy product description for an app lacking

WP:SIGCOV. Sources that aren't the app's website are limited to lists of apps that won an award. Only one of these lists discusses the app, and it's more ad copy Wizmut (talk) 17:06, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to Srimanta Sankaradeva University of Health Sciences. Only one !vote to keep, favoring the sources, but no one concurs. Even though more say to delete, no argument is solidly backed up, discussion is on the light side, and consensus is not strong, so go with the suggested redirect as the least destructive option. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 07:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Government Ayurvedic College, Guwahati

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Tried to improve the article but I failed to improve it per

WP:SNG as well as others. Twinkle1990 (talk) 16:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Keep There are plenty of reliable sources and qualifies for
WP: SECONDARY sources mentioned as references. It also has historical importance as it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region. -AjayDas (talk) 08:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • I was also not in favor to delete it. But I couldn't find sufficient references to establish the
    WP:GNG
    . If you can demonstrate the notability with sourcing, please do it. Otherwise, just a! vote and " it is first and only Ayurvedic College in North East India region." is not helping it anyhow.
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  • Delete. This page has poor sources and it does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails
    WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 14:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Redirect to Srimanta Sankaradeva University of Health Sciences to which it is affiliated. Founded in 1948 it is 75 years atleast clearly a search term.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: As per my check, I found nothing that can be called in-depth coverage. The subject fails to meet
    WP:NSCHOOL. It requires in-depth coverage from multiple independent reliable sources to establish notability. GrabUp - Talk 08:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

101 Talaqain

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This TV show fails to meet WP:NTV as I couldn't find sig/ in-depth coverage. Simply being written by a freelancer is not enough to establish WP:GNG, nor is ROTM coverage like this and this.

Not every TV drama aired on TV channels inherently get a WP page. In Pakistan, we only have TV dramas, nothing else, so we don't need an article on each one of them based solely on ROTM or paid/PR coverage. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Significant coverage exists, including signed reviews, one being currently on the page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:51, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Mushy Yank, I should have made it clear that the majority of sources currently used in the article are not even RS, so they shouldn't even be considered here.Which signed reviews are you referring to? Please provide a link here. Also, may I ask you to provide here some coverage which you think should be sig/in-depth.Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      TNS you mentioned yourself, signed Sadia Sherbaz; the review in Youlin Magazine, signed Hurmat Majid; this, signed Zainab Mossadiq; this signed Sophia Qureshi; for example. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Mushy Yank, So, if a piece is signed, does that make it reliable enough to establish GNG? I don't think so, because TNS like other Pakistani RS do accept guest contibutions. And Sadia Sherbaz have only written one article for TNS, as a guest contributor. This piece can be used for WP:V, but not for establishing GNG. Meanwhile, Galaxylollywood and TheBrownIdentity aren't even slightly RS. I've mentioned this several times on various forums. They're just internet business websites, with nothing to do with journalism. They even shouldn't be used for WP:V, let alone to establish GNG about something. We definitely need a guide that can help us determine which Pakistani sources can be considered RS and which cannot.Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      You're welcome. You do realise that you seem to be commenting each and every !vote that does not go your way and subsequent additions to the said !votes in the numerous Afd you initiated? It may be in a good spirit and I don't mind personally, but I'm just saying this to apologise in advance: I probably won't reply anymore, sorry. Also, I mentioned these reviews are signed because when I present reviews that are not signed, yourself and certain users discard them (by saying roughly ""not bylined" therefore not RS under NEWSORGINDIA", and so on). But apparently signed reviews are not good enough either and some have nothing to do with journalism (!). So when you say We definitely need a guide that can help us determine which Pakistani sources can be considered RS and which cannot., sure, maybe, but apparently, you have determined that by yourself and my input, added at your request, was not necessary. I therefore leave it at that and will spend no more time on this, again, sorry. Good luck. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Mushy Yank, Yeah, you're probably right. I might have gone a bit overboard with responding to every single objection to my AfD nomination. But as the one putting forward the AfD, it's on me to address any concerns people have, Right? But like when one mention those non-RS sources for establishing GNG, it's my responsibility to point out that they're not legit RS. Sometimes those sites seem solid at first glance, but with a closer look, they're more like glorified PR machines than actual journalism outlets. So, I guess what I'm saying is, your input is definitely important. I'm not too proud to admit when I'm wrong either – if you check out my AfD stats, you'll see I've withdrawn a bunch of nominations when I realized I goofed.Saqib (talk I contribs) 21:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KEEP - Although sources appear to be from local and Pakistani sites, we cannot just assume they are unreliable. The series seems to have enough coverage in its own country to be notable. In particular, here are some of the better coverage 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Hkkingg (talk) 23:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hkkingg, Galaxy Lollywood, The Brown Identity and Something Haute are either content farms or WP:UGC sites. Having said that, these websites may not meet our standards for WP:V, let alone establishing GNG. Source # 3 and 4 have the same URLs. While Dawn Images is considered a RS but this particular coverage seems to be no more than a PR announcing the launch of the show. I believe for establishing GNG requires a high level of coverage.Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:42, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've reviewed the sources again and can confirm that they are not user-generated content. I'm not sure what you mean by "content farm," but these sites appear to offer legitimate reviews of the TV Series. It's important not to dismiss sites simply because they are Pakistani or not based in the US; such an assumption doesn't automatically equate to low quality. You'll need to provide a stronger rationale and clearer explanation for why these sites are unacceptable. I understand you're trying to defend your nomination, but it seems like you might be stretching for reasons to avoid appearing as though you've made a poor nomination.
Also here are some additional sources that I have just found:
https://socialdiary.pk/zahid-ahmed-acing-dark-comedy-in-101-talaqain/
https://fuchsiamagazine.com/zahid-ahmed-takes-on-marriage-woes-in-upcoming-drama-comedy-101-talaqain/
https://dunyanews.tv/en/Entertainment/710739-Zahid-Ahmed-hitting-the-screens-as-lead-in-101-Talaqain
https://www.independenturdu.com/node/152791
https://www.dawnnews.tv/news/1199629 Hkkingg (talk) 00:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you're new to WP, I recommend familiarizing yourself with our policy on
WP:PRIMARY. The issue isn't about the origin of these websites but rather the credibility of the sources. There are plenty of Pakistani sources acceptable for WP usage, but the ones you mentioned are not among them. Further, I'll ping @S0091: so they can review these sources and offer their opinion, too. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:12, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
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WP:CANVASS. S0091 (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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S0091, Well I'm not asking for your vote, just your opinion on the quality of the sources provided by @Hkkingg, which is permitted, I guess. Given your expertise, you're better equipped to assess the sources.Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per
WP:CANVASS The audience must not be selected on the basis of their opinions—for example, if notices are sent to editors who previously supported deleting an article, then identical notices should be sent to those who supported keeping it. You are not pinging a range of editors with various opinions, only me. As you know, I have participated in a few similar AfDs, have expressed an opinion on many of these sources and thus far have !voted delete in all of them. It may not have been you intent to canvass but you are. S0091 (talk) 16:17, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Just one thing. Hkkingg has been editing WP for over a year. He is not "new to WP" at all. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:41, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mushy Yank, Hkkingg only has 323 edits so I assumed they might be new here.Saqib (talk I contribs) 15:01, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You assumed so, but he is not. And 323 edits is not "new", I'd say, especially when you have participated in a number of AfDs, as is the case. Thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Saqib I do not consider myself a new editor, as I have been making edits for over a year and have participated in many AFDs. You have provided no details or evidence to support the claim that the sources I suggested are paid blogs or otherwise unreliable. Your blanket statement that they are all low quality seems unjust. Surely in comparison to American publications, they probably are of lower quality, but can't assume unreliable or paid articles without a deep analysis of the reasons, which you have failed to provide. However, the extensive coverage this series has received in its own country attests to its notability. Claiming that every single source is unreliable or paid for is unreasonable. Hkkingg (talk) 06:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hkkingg, Well there was a quick chat over at WP:RSN about Fuchsia Magazine, where it was labeled an unreliable source. Social Diary, on the other hand, seems to lack a proper editorial team besides one editor, yet you view it as reliable. They even label themselves as a "lifestyle magazine." If you're inclined to overlook this as well the community consensus WP:NEWSORGINDIA, it's up to you.Saqib (talk I contribs) 18:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 03:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brighton & Hove Breeze routes

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Non-notable WP: Run-of-the-mill bus route, see discussion of similar recent deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton & Hove bus route 6 --woodensuperman 12:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep, the routes have been discussed in various sources including the national broadcaster BBC News. I've added some of these to the article. Garuda3 (talk) 15:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the nomination statement is misleading. This article is about a group of three related bus routes, not an individual one as stated, bringing into question how much attention has been paid to it and to whether any
    WP:BEFORE has been attempted? Thryduulf (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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    Good spot. Garuda3 (talk) 22:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Makoma Mohale

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Check notability by

WP:GNGACTOR Claggy (talk) 22:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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I've struck the duplicate vote. I can't see why CSD G5 would apply here. It would also help if you gave a better deletion rationale demonstrating BEFORE had been done before nominating this article. Liz Read! Talk! 01:49, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Morakot Sriswasdi

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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Appears to fail

WP:GNG. Uhooep (talk) 09:55, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Individual ambassadors might not merit a stand alone page.
Wikilover3509 (talk) 11:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't merge/redirect. Not mentioned at target, and it wouldn't be appropriate to do so. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: There are plenty of news mentions, but virtually all of it is in the context of her official capacity. She was featured in The Cloud's "Talk With Ambassadors" podcast[2], but that's also mostly about her work. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Devarishi Dasa Asamoah

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There is no significant coverage in reliable sources. The first source was published by a contributor on a site that doesn't appear reliable. The second and third sources are practically identical, providing nothing about the subject beyond a name drop. This fails to meet the criteria of

WP:NBIO imo. GSS💬 15:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The sources used are to establish the subject as a spiritual leader of Hare Krsna Movement in Ghana. Most of the stub centers around this. As the author of this stub, I do not have access to any information on anything else other than this. It may be a little short for a biography, but the beauty of Wikipedia is that another contributor may carry on the work that has been started. Heatrave (talk) 17:13, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for the reasons stated by the nominator. BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 15:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: as a stub about a religious leader but invite future contributions on the subject.
Heatrave (talk) 19:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:BIO. GSS💬 03:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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.Keep as he's a the lead priest of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness in Ghana, which is one of the 69 affiliated ISKCON centers in Africa.[3]. I believe that this is unusual to deserve attention in the context of Ghana which has a growing Hindu population.[4] Heatrave (talk) 08:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not inherited. Just because he is the lead priest of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness in Ghana doesn't grant him automatic notability. You need to provide sources that establish significance according to the policies. GSS💬 10:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 01:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HE Higher Education Ranking

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Contested PROD. Article currently has no sources that would meet

WP:GNG. Most are sourced to the universities themselves, so are not independent. Same goes with the first and last citation, to the article subject. There are also two cites to books published by IGI global, a vanity press listed on Beall's list, which are written by an employee at HE, so are not independent. I haven't found any usable while searching, though false positives with THE made it a bit difficult. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 16:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to List of largest stars. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RX Telescopii

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This star fails the

largest known star
at a radius of ≈1900 R, but it used a highly inaccurate distance and newer estimates give radii of 300 or 800 R.

Although this is a deletion discussion, I suggest merging into

talk) 18:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Redirect List of largest stars or delete. User:Hamterous1 (discuss anything!🐹✈️) 00:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 04:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Danila Kashin

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Per

WP:SINGLEEVENT. The remaining sources are news articles. Skepsiz (talk) 18:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete: Sources in the article are in non-RS per Cite HIghligher or appear to be primary. I don't see any sources about this person in my searches Oaktree b (talk) 23:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Social media of all types, then off into non-RS territory. Oaktree b (talk) 23:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Fails to have significant coverage by multiple independent reliable sources. Contributor892z (talk) 02:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 zebra escape

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Declined PROD. Short-lived event that has, even a few weeks later, had no discernable lasting impact. Per

WP:N(E), the depth and duration of non-local coverage is not sufficient to establish notability. SounderBruce 19:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per nom
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  • Delete Quintessential
    WP:NOTNEWS of a local event with no actual significance. Escapes of exotic animals are not particularly rare, even if their unusualness attracts some public attention. Reywas92Talk 13:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Merge the few lines about the impact on the town and the "zebra specials" to the article on North Bend, Washington, otherwise this is a non-notable event. Oaktree b (talk) 23:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Merge per
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Delete Sustained coverage issues 104.7.152.180 (talk) 03:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Completely fails NOTNEWS as a trivial "and finally" story that is unlikely to have sustained coverage. JoelleJay (talk) 22:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Capital Sports Hall

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Small sports stadium lacking in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. Mccapra (talk) 07:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean that the hall itself is small, not that the sports it hosts are small. As to the sources you’ve provided above, none of them offers in depth coverage of this particular hall. They just confirm it exists, that it seats 7500-8000 people and it’s part of the larger Olympic complex. They are either about the handball matches or about the Olympic city. The sports complex as a whole looks notable and therefore potentially a redirect target, but it doesn’t seem to have been written yet. Mccapra (talk) 14:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, I think the sports hall is good enough with sourcing and notability to be kept here. While Arabic sources may not be the best, they do help fill the gap in sourcing. Old-AgedKid (talk) 10:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, If the article stays, it should be on the proviso of improving it and adding a lot more to it. Shouldn't stay as 2 lines. MaskedSinger (talk) 05:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There isn’t really anything to add though, that’s the problem. It’s not an expandable stub. Mccapra (talk) 15:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
nothing at all? MaskedSinger (talk) 16:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Günther Janse van Vuuren

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet

WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 20:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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List of Division I FBS broadcasters

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WP:PRIMARY to teams, two of those are 404 and two are staff roster pages; two of those are about announcers and one leads to a home page. None of these are doing anything at all to help assert notability of lists like this nor have anything to with this list. All the others are unsourced. SpacedFarmer (talk) 07:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 05:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Golf Course News International

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Looking through the sources, I'm not finding any evidence of

WP:SUSTAINED due to all the sources being from 2006. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete Can't find anything about event for recent news. 104.7.152.180 (talk) 03:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Billie Sparks

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Doesn't meet

a 💬 19:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Complex/Rational 18:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Achievement motivation inventory

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Articles have multiple big issues with it. Starting with

WP:PROD it, but unfortunately, it got deleted. GoodHue291 (talk) 17:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KESU-LP (Hanamaulu, Hawaii)

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Fails

WP:GNG. Redirect unnecessary due to parenthetical disambiguation. Not mentioned at list of television stations in Hawaii, either. AusLondonder (talk) 16:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to Emmy Awards#Regional. Liz Read! Talk! 23:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chicago / Midwest Emmy Awards

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This doesn't appear to meet

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The result was delete‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Education Facilitators

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Potentially ambiguous title. Doesn't appear to meet

WP:GNG. Unreferenced for 14 years. Boleyn (talk) 16:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Complex/Rational 18:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trump, Ohio

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Does not seem to have any significant coverage according to

WP:NOTE ImTheAvidPheasant (talk) 15:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete It's hard to do a before on this for obvious reasons. I found a few Ohio place name books, and Stark county history books. This is the only way to quickly tackle the problem, and at the end of the day Unincorporated places are not legally recognized and need secondary source for notability. The Trump family were early settlers in stark county, but I find no mention of any place called trump in the books I could find. My carefully considered opinion is this is just a neighborhood in Canton, Ohio. We delete neighborhoods all the time.James.folsom (talk) 01:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Stark County! Famous for Phil Davison. The "Trump" location is now in Canton, but no one calls it "Trump". Trump appears on the 1901/03 USGS 1:62500 maps as a place name, though not with any noticeable development aside from residences along the road leading to Canton.[10]. The next more detailed map in 1958 (1:24000) doesn't list it anymore.--Milowenthasspoken 14:44, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Complex/Rational 18:44, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qupital

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Can't find anything meeting NCORP, most of the results were the usual ORGTRIV funding announcements. Oddly enough Forbes (Contributor) article was in the regular tab and not News, guess Google is filtering them out now? Results for 橋彼道 (or 桥彼道, they didn't seem to care much) were pretty much the same, Sogou might have been slightly better than Baidu for this one but nothing of note there either. There's an article in Cifnews (雨果网) but it's a paid placement (properly marked, won't bother going into their reliability). I judge

WP:NONENG to be very unlikely also. Alpha3031 (tc) 13:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.. Complex/Rational 18:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails

WP:GNG; questionable sourcing. BMarGlines (talk) 08:20, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎. Nomination Withdrawn

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Mirai (band)

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As per my

WP:GNG
, but I found nothing that makes this band notable. The cited sources can't establish the subject's notability.

Breakdown of cited sources:

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The result was redirect‎ to Shooting at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's 25 metre rapid fire pistol and delete the article about the footballer. Complex/Rational 18:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Josef Kopecký

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With only database source listed, the article of this

WP:GNG. According to Results
on Sports Reference, Kopecký was not in the top three winners of 1936 Summer Olympics. He also had not gained any medal record. My Google search came up with similar namesakes.


I would also consider footballer of the same name for deletion due to possible dubious info. I also couldn't find anything to verify his death; EU-football.info stated that he played two games each for Meteor Prague and now-defunct Bohemia national football team. Unlike the shooter, footballer has corresponding article on Czech Wikipedia but it's an unsourced stub.

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The result was keep‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bubble Gum (NewJeans song)

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The article is just a copy-paste of the "How Sweet" article. Poirot09 (talk) 09:30, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a stub and also it is a song article not a single article. It is also important to have a separate article as both songs are notable since Bubble Gum topped music videos in South Korea and became a big hit there. I would also like to add I am planning on adding more information and sources but as it is a b-side which was never released I simply just copy and pasted information from that article. However this will be changed. This0k (talk) 10:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: it certainly was released, otherwise we would never had heard it. But I would question if this was a B-side as stated... it appears that "How Sweet" and "Bubble Gum" were released together as a double single, and I wonder if it might be better to merge the two into a single article titled "How Sweet / Bubble Gum", because apart from the two chart positions, most of the content seems to apply equally to both songs. Richard3120 (talk) 10:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Personally I'd be fine with retitling the article. This0k (talk) 20:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Richard3120 Yeah, there has been a bit of a discussion going on over what classification to use for these singles, since publications have described them as double single,[1] single album,[2] and extended play,[3] even though the group has used the term double single. I'm not able to engage in a long discussion atm, but you can check out Talk:NewJeans discography if you wish to contribute to the discussion with other editors.
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  • Comment: Sources 12 and 14 are about this song, rest aren't. I'm not sure why were using sourcing from 2023 for a song that came out in 2024... Oaktree b (talk) 23:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep: Enough sourcing in RS about the music video, [17], [18], [19], with coverage from Korea and the United States. Likely TOOSOON as the song was just released, but it's got coverage in spades. Oaktree b (talk) 23:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, although the article should be rewritten with content specific to this song only. I don't see a problem having two separate articles for double A-side singles, as this kind of release is pretty common outside Korea (especially Japan). ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 00:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Nkon21. If the issue is duplicative content, rewrite it with information pertaining to this song only. Ss112 02:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Legion of Super-Villains. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Radiation Roy

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I found nothing that shows notability. Non-notable character. SL93 (talk) 08:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎.

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Axel Downard-Wilke

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Downard-Wilke does not meet our

notability guidelines for people, with very little (if any) independent sourcing. See the first nomination which was speedy kept as it was linked from the main page's DYK section. It was promptly removed after the COIN case was brought up. To me this page seems to be relatively unambiguous self-promotion. wound theology 08:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep, based on encountering what I consider significant coverage in two profiles [20] (in this one he is rendered as "Wilke" rather than "Downard-Wilke") and [21]. This combined with the less significant but also more than trivial coverage across sources cited in the article leads me to consider the topic notable. I'm also perplexed by the OP's comment that this page seems to be relatively unambiguous self-promotion. This article wasn't created or edited by its subject (who would be the "self" in self-promotion); the COIN case is about someone who knows Downard-Wilke interpersonally having contributed to the article. Downard-Wilke, who is disclosed to be Schwede66 on Wikipedia, has never edited this article. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 12:38, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't really want to go too deep into source debates for reasons stated in my comments below, but you might want to read my original nomination statement from the first AfD – certainly that first Stuff article you linked is not an independent source. It was written to promote this edit-a-thon to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Stuff itself, which Downard-Wilke appears to have played some role in organising. This does call into question more broadly whether Stuff articles can be considered independent of Downard-Wilke.
    The apparent less significant but also more than trivial coverage you refer to I believe amounts to a
    notability bomb when carefully investigated – although there are many sources, none turn out to contribute to notability. – Teratix 16:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
It's not self-promotion but it is a prolific DYK contributor being asked to make an article about a prominent Wikipedian and get it on the front page. Obviously we don't know who did the asking. It all stinks, anyway. Secretlondon (talk) 15:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Original AfD nominator here. I think this follow-up AfD is slightly premature. There is an evolving discussion underway at COIN, where Schwede66 has mentioned a cache of 50-odd potential sources for review. It would be better to take some time to properly go over these sources before going straight back to AfD. Plus, this way interested participants would not have to split their energy between content and conduct discussions, and so we can get all the facts right about the circumstances behind the article's creation (for example, I agree with Hydrangeans that calling it "self-promotion", given what we know right now, is tenuous because Schwede66 hasn't touched the article).
As it stands I would prefer this be suspended or closed procedural keep with no prejudice against renomination once other discussions have taken their course and Schwede66's sources been thoroughly reviewed.Teratix 15:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Echoing the two previous comments. I feel this AFD is a bit rushed, and I don't see reasons why it may be labelled as self-promotion yet. AFA notability is concerned, the sub meets borderline notability IMO. X (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, notability is clearly determined by multiple reliable news articles on the subject from The Star and Stuff. Both outlets are reliable independent sources in New Zealand. Before anyone questions whether I have a CoI, I have met Axel once in an online Wikipedia meetup call, and all of my interactions with him have been on and about Wikipedia. However, outside of Wikipedia I have heard his name mentioned in several places related to urban planning in Christchurch. He is certainly a notable figure in this city, and I also consider him notable enough for a wikipedia article.
David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 23:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As Teratix pointed out, the Stuff article is not an independent source. Not sure about The Star. wound theology 06:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are other Stuff articles that establish notability, particularly on the macron debate. Believe it or not that was newsworthy in NZ. When I tell people I edit Wikipedia, people ask me about that specific topic. Wilke was a fairly central figure in the coverage of that debate., as established by the sources. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 06:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to List of largest stars. Liz Read! Talk! 07:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Not exactly sure why I created this article. Anyway, does not meet

WP:GNG. Should be deleted or redirected to the list of largest stars. SpaceImplorerExplorerImplorer 08:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete. The {{
    WP:NASTRO
    . Also, you were the one who created this article.
talk) 13:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete because the {{Notability}} tag has been there since March 2021 and issue not resolved. User:Hamterous1 (discuss anything!🐹✈️) 00:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of largest stars per other similar AfDs. SevenSpheres (talk) 16:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Alter

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Fails

WP:ROUTINE coverages, statistical or PRs. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to List of largest stars. Liz Read! Talk! 07:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SMC 018136

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Definitely no significant coverage in literature and therefore does not meet WP:NASTRO. Either delete the page or redirect it to list of largest stars. SpaceImplorerExplorerImplorer 08:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of largest stars. User:Hamterous1 (discuss anything!🐹✈️) 19:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Kokotajlo (AI researcher)

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Almost all sources show that Kokotajlo is notable only because of his controversial resignment from OpenAI. There are no profiles of him or his research, and I can't find any info that he won any major award or led a major team, etc. Wikipedia is not a news site, and I think that the policy says exactly this: Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Subjects_notable_only_for_one_event and Wikipedia:What BLP1E is not. Artem.G (talk) 08:15, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Willian Forte

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Professional player with a career that started in 2019 and without any activity since 2022 [22]. There appears to be a spell at SE Palmeiras but I didn't find anything. Fails in

WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 08:04, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Peters (media executive)

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Fails

WP:JOURNALIST. Run of the mill coverage of this executive who used to run Euronews, but not much in terms of in-depth of independent from the subject (interviews, press releases) which would indicate this is a notable individual under our guidelines. Pilaz (talk) 14:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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There is literally so much coverage about him in multiple languages, that it will take a very long time to sort through. Just added a New York Times article that would at least help pass
WP:BASIC. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Included another article in which his career is being described. It was published by French newspaper Libération in 2012: https://www.liberation.fr/medias/2012/02/09/eurostar_794664/ Zamekrizeni (talk) 09:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That NYT article has a one sentence quote from him; it is not about him at all and what he says in that article is not what is in the sentence (fails validation). The Liberation one is about him. I see that as possibly meeting GNG as there are two articles about him. As a BIO, though, we must be careful that all stated facts are from reliable sources. He was not mentioned on the about page for Africa news, and the remainder of that section is from a press release. I removed the about page and the facebook citation (not a reliable source). If those facts cannot be sourced the data should be removed from the article. If, as you say, there is "literally so much coverage" it should be possible to source those facts from a reliable source. (Yes, I know that AFD is not cleanup, but sometimes cleanup is needed to assess the article. Also, I can't help myself.)Lamona (talk) 15:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. The NYT piece only offers a brief quote, which is a passing mention and not independent, and the Libération article is an interview, so primary and not
WP:INDEPENDENT. The suggestion that no BEFORE has been done is questionable (as a side note, this nomination was made as part of the NPP process), unless one significantly lowers the BIO bar to include material that is not in-depth, not independent, or not secondary. Pilaz (talk) 16:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Whatever. We can keep going and evaluate one article at a time, sure. Cielquiparle (talk) 21:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I have read all the comments more carefully now and think it's really great that everyone is engaged. Let's all get editing! Cielquiparle (talk) 22:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that the Libération article is an interview. It contains some quotes of him, but I wouldn't consider it an interview. It is more of a profile or portrait, in my opinion Zamekrizeni (talk) 06:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that the Liberation article counts towards notability per
WP:BASIC. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Cielquiparle The "Women in Tech" cite is not independent (such bios are usually supplied by the biographee). There may be a better source, else that sentence could be removed. Note that I removed some unnecessary sources (one good one per fact is enough), and I removed the NYT source and that sentence because that information could not be verified in that source. Should an actual source be found for that information it could be added back in. Lamona (talk) 04:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Lamona Could you please move this discussion to the Talk page? I didn't even make that edit so not sure why I am being pinged in an AfD discussion. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Lamona: To clarify: I did not add Women in Tech but I did actually carefully reword the sentence citing The New York Times per your concern, so as not to overstate. But whatever, this discussion belongs on the article Talk page, not here. The very fact that this AfD discussion has turned into article workshopping, plus the nominator's NPP comment suggest to me that this was more of an article cleanup session rather than a genuine AfD discussion. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NPP recommends nominating articles at AfD which fall below the threshold for notability after a BEFORE. It's not uncommon for the articles to be improved in the process as more scrutiny is given to the sources in the article. Pilaz (talk) 12:15, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Matt Hannaford

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despite being flagged for improvement for nearly a decade now, the article still has major issues. much of the article seems to be either original research, or things Matt has been only involved with tangentially (like stars his coworkers at the company represented). this could be improved if the article met

WP:BIO, but even that seems doubtful. Free Realist 9 (talk) 13:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎. Sufficient secondary sourcing has been shown to exist Star Mississippi 13:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Job Bogmis

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None of the sources used contribute to notability: #1, #3 are interviews, #4 is not an independent source (associated with the team of the University he was playing for), #2 does not show significant coverage. I could not find other sources to fulfill

WP:GNG. Broc (talk) 07:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

This source "analysis" is infuriating and incorrect... all the sources have secondary coverage ("In Cameroon he spent all day working on whatever he could to help his large family. They had nothing left over. The ball was just entertainment... he has the African presence in his game. Dizzying power and potency... Bogmis has always been a believer, but his faith became more intense during lockdown... he was a figure in the UdeC title in youth football", "Originally from Yaoundé, the capital of the African country... a loan, the difficulties of the climate and language, the desire to return to his country during the pandemic and endless obstacles he had to overcome before his sweet present, the one that has him as one of the figures to follow in the 'B' during this 2022", "The story of Job Bogmis is that of a fighter full of dreams. He arrived in 2019 with three young people from Cameroon. They were all promised heaven, but some were left stranded in Temuco and he was the only one who continued in soccer... He speaks Spanish better and better, he no longer needs a translator", "the cold, the difficulties with the language and the few opportunities left him alone very soon. Today, at 22 years old, he dreams of being recognized for his talent, although his team is in last place in the Primera B standings... plays on the right wing, his pass is worth $200,000 and he was the last victim of verbal violence on the Chilean fields")

the reason the third source is "associated" with the team he played for was because it was from the same city... like seriously? Young player with onoging career in Chilean pro soccer that will definielt get many more sources in his ongoing pro career as well. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 08:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. That specific source is not independent. JTtheOG (talk) 18:09, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep – Per all above. Svartner (talk) 08:27, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails GNG. Far too many quotes in those articles. Claiming racist abuse doesn't give sigcov. Dougal18 (talk) 09:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I provided secondary coverage from each source above... If I'm not mistaken, most articles about people are a mix of quotes with secondary coverage... I never said "claiming racist abuse gives sigcov" and even the source about that provides seocndary coverage of him as well as background info and important context... Young player with onoging career in Chilean pro soccer that will definielt get many more sources in his ongoing pro career as well. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 21:19, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source assessment table:
Source
Independent?
Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward
GNG
?
https://chile.as.com/chile/2022/02/17/futbol/1645063190_412510.html No interview Yes Yes No
https://redgol.cl/chile/Job-Bogmis-reclama-tras-ser-victima-de-racismo-en-duelo-de-U.-de-Conce-ante-Wanderers-en-Primera-B-20230427-0023.html Yes Yes No specific racism episode No
https://www.emol.com/noticias/Deportes/2022/03/03/1048355/job-bogmis-camerun-futbol-udeconcepcion.html No interview Yes Yes No
https://www.diarioconcepcion.cl/deportes/2021/09/01/job-bogmis-marco-cuatro-goles-y-le-gusta-el-lila.html No not independent, publisher is the owner of the football club Yes Yes No
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This source "analysis" is infuriating and incorrect... its not like the so-called "interview" is like a mere Q and A... all the sources have secondary coverage ("In Cameroon he spent all day working on whatever he could to help his large family. They had nothing left over. The ball was just entertainment... he has the African presence in his game. Dizzying power and potency... Bogmis has always been a believer, but his faith became more intense during lockdown... he was a figure in the UdeC title in youth football", "Originally from Yaoundé, the capital of the African country... a loan, the difficulties of the climate and language, the desire to return to his country during the pandemic and endless obstacles he had to overcome before his sweet present, the one that has him as one of the figures to follow in the 'B' during this 2022", "The story of Job Bogmis is that of a fighter full of dreams. He arrived in 2019 with three young people from Cameroon. They were all promised heaven, but some were left stranded in Temuco and he was the only one who continued in soccer... He speaks Spanish better and better, he no longer needs a translator", "the cold, the difficulties with the language and the few opportunities left him alone very soon. Today, at 22 years old, he dreams of being recognized for his talent, although his team is in last place in the Primera B standings... plays on the right wing, his pass is worth $200,000 and he was the last victim of verbal violence on the Chilean fields")

Young player with onoging career in Chilean pro soccer that will definielt get many more sources in his ongoing pro career as well. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 03:25, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@
WP:TOOSOON? Broc (talk) 11:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Something being an interview does not mean it is not independent, that is a ridiculous thing to say. As such, on your own analysis, there would be multiple sources towards GNG. GiantSnowman 19:09, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alex (2025 film)

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Article on a planned film, apparently created by its director, hasn't actually begun filming yet, zero coverage so far outside of two posts on director's YouTube channel. Moved to draft three times, where it was correctly declined once as failing

WP:NFILM. My speedy A7 was declined in favour of a third move back to draft, but article creator moved it back to main space minutes later, so here we are. Wikishovel (talk) 07:40, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete per nom. Also keeps removing COI templates despite doing nothing to actually resolve it, although seems like they've stopped for now.
talk) 10:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete – Self-promotional and non-notable. Creator has already been blocked. Sgubaldo (talk) 01:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails
    WP:NFILM. The 2 YouTube sources are hardly reliable. LibStar (talk) 19:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of television programmes broadcast by ITV

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Fails NOTDIRECTORY/NOTTVGUIDE. List criteria is programming "that are either currently being broadcast or have previously been broadcast", Wikipedia is not an electronic program guide, current or historical. Fails NLIST, no independent reliable sources discuss this as a group. BEFORE found programing schedules, nothing more. List has grown so much is it hard to tell if any of it is original programming, BEFORE did not find sources showing original programming discussed as a group.  // Timothy :: talk  07:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: As per nominator. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 13:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment A couple of comments on the nomination. For those more familiar with television elsewhere, the UK traditionally only had a very small number of TV broadcasters - the ITV group was one of two from 1955 to 1982, the other being the BBC. So there is a lot of original programming in that list - prior to 1982, about half of the UK's locally-originated TV programming was made by one of the ITV companies. In terms of reliable sources discussing this as a group, one I'd suggest is Asa Briggs' The History of Broadcasting in the United Kingdom, Volume V: Competition, which has a lengthy chapter (Audiences and Programmes (1955-1960), pp141-255) discussing the early development of ITV programming across a range of genres and contrasting it with BBC TV in the same period. Adam Sampson (talk) 16:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep Two more references for notability: ed. Stuart Hood, Behind the Screens: the Structure of British Broadcasting in the 1990s discusses ITV programming as a group in the Television, Audiences, Politics chapter; Jack Williams, Entertaining the Nation: a Social History of British Television contrasts BBC and ITV approaches across several genres. (Jeremy Potter's Independent Television in Britain, which picks up the history of UK TV from where Briggs left off, has loads of discussion of ITV programming, but it was commissioned by the IBA so it doesn't count for GNG.) Adam Sampson (talk) 17:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I find the Keep vote and comment above convincing. Content was covered as a set so that this meets
    WP:NLIST; and if this rather standard page should be deleted, it should indeed imply a broader discussion. The page is less a "TV guide" than a history of a notable network. Can be considered a split/detailed articles. At the very least, anyway, a redirect/merge, should be considered, if size is not an issue (but it is; 74 kB WKtext for the main article; 34 kB for the list). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:51, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect‎ to GNU nano. The sense of the discussion here is that there is insufficient sourcing to keep the article. While there was no clear distinction between deleting and redirecting, no argument was offer against a redirect, and policy favors it as an alternative to deletion. No prejudice to mentioning the subject at the target article, but i will leave that to those who edit in this area. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 12:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Micro (text editor)

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Besides one potentially

WP:GNG. "[D]esigned around simplicity and ease of use" also makes the article quite promotional. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 12:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The promotional wording wasn't intentional. Anyhow in the context of WP:NSOFT, having 20k stars on GitHub and coverage in Linux Magazine and many other FOSS-focused sites makes it notability imo. Wqwt (talk) 13:13, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Hmm. I'm inclined to add a single sentence on GNU nano and redirect there. I don't think the sourcing is quite sufficent to justify a separate article yet. Github stars aren't really something we can write an article from, and how to guides aren't that great either, and that, rather than a measure of how significant or important something is, is what "notability" means here. A single sentence shouldn't be too undue either Alpha3031 (tc) 14:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The sourcing seems comparable to say Geany or Kate or Code::Blocks. Surely you would consider Linux Magazine a RS. Is there a consensus on itsFoss as a source? MakeUseOf seems to be a borderline case. In the context of FOSS applications, which are still niche in coverage compared to Windows and Mac programs, there is extensive coverage here. Wqwt (talk) 21:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not aware of any prior consensus regarding It's FOSS either on RSN or elsewhere, but based on their about page and what I know of them, they're a group blog, not something that has a formal editorial review process. Not that I would be unhappy if this is kept, either also as no consensus or outright, I just don't think there is sufficient consensus for a carve out for FOSS from the usual coverage based requirements. Though, to be honest, I'm fairly sure most Windows and Mac programs wouldn't be notable either. Alpha3031 (tc) 09:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: The Linux Magazine link is the only applied or presented source which in my opinion passes RS (and it's not that great as direct detailing). The FOSS, HowToGeek, and MakeUseOf are not reliable sources because they are providing software usage instructions, not a directly detailing product review or coverage of the product or producer. My reasonable BEFORE finds nothing better. BusterD (talk) 00:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Linux Magazine is the only source that is reliable enough to establish notability. There isn't anything outright wrong with the rest of the sources, but I can't come up with a compelling defense for why those sources are reliable enough to establish notability. This is a sourcing discussion, and this subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability standards with respect to sourcing. I also couldn't find any sources not in the article that could establish notability, which is kind of shocking considering how many stars it has on GitHub. HyperAccelerated (talk) 22:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect and merge to GNU nano per above, this doesn't seem like enough for a standalone article but certainly enough for a mention in the article about nano. jp×g🗯️ 00:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Rahaman Abiola

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Fails

WP:GNG. Sources are either announcing him as new editor-in-chief of Legit.ng, passing mentions or dependent on the subject. Being Reuters-trained, or working with other Nigerian media outlets, etc, isn't a credible claim of notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Comments Source
Interview, fails WP:IS 1. "Award-winning Journalist, Rahaman Abiola Shares Tips for Creating Quality Stories -". primusmediacity.com. 18 April 2022. Retrieved 2024-04-03.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 2. ^ Obi, Daniel (2024-03-20). "INMA appoints Legit.ng's Editor-in-Chief Rahaman Abiola into its Africa Advisory Council Board". Businessday NG. Retrieved 2024-03-27.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 3. ^ Jump up to:a b Ola (2023-04-24). "Legit.ng gets new Editor-in-Chief, Head of Desk". I-79 Media Consults. Retrieved 2024-03-28.
Nothing about subject, fails WP:SIGCOV 4. ^ Toromade, Samson (2023-06-14). "Nigeria Health Watch lands over 250 solutions journalism stories in 2 years". Pulse Nigeria. Retrieved 2024-03-28.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 5. ^ Mix, Pulse (2024-03-20). "INMA appoints Legit.ng's Editor-in-Chief Abiola to Africa Advisory Council". Pulse Nigeria. Retrieved 2024-04-03.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 6. ^ Tosin, Alamu (2023-04-12). "Legit.ng Appoints New Editor-in-Chief, Head of Desk and Others". NGNews247. Retrieved 2024-05-09.
Routine mill news, fails WP:IS fails WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth 7. ^ INMA appoints Legit.ng's Rahaman Abiola into its Africa Advisory Council Board.
Name mentioned in list, nothing meets WP:SIGCOV addressing the subjeect directly and indepth 8. ^ "INMA: Africa Advisory Committee". www.inma.org. Retrieved 2024-05-09.
BLPs require strong sourcing.  // Timothy :: talk  09:22, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - Entity featured on notable news websites, held talks on globally recognized platforms for journalist and his works are widely recognized. --Siagoddess (talk) 14:00, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: source analysis from User:TimothyBlue is compelling and my reasonable BEFORE doesn't help. User:Siagoddess is the page creator and I'm not seeing anybody else asserting keep here. BusterD (talk) 01:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Per rationale by VWF, Timothy and BursterD. Best, Reading Beans 13:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus‎. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 03:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC) Amended close. After discussion on my talk page I amend my close to no consensus on Piano Sonata in B minor and redirect to Sonata in B minor for Violin Sonata in B minor. As was pointed out to me, the rationale offered for the piano DAB did not apply to the violin DAB, and my close is modified accordingly. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 00:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Violin Sonata in B minor

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This disambiguation page is redundant of

partial-title match
because it is generically for strings, not solely for violin. I propose restoring the redirect. I am also nominating the following page for redirecting as well since it is also redundant:

Piano Sonata in B minor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) voorts (talk/contributions) 19:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect both to Sonata in B minor. There's zero reason to have two different DA pages which include identical subjects. One unified DA page dovetails better with WP:Disambiguation guidelines than multiple redundant entries. BusterD (talk) 01:12, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Vikrant Adams

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Fails

WP:GNG. Can’t see them passing any of these. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. Have searched, cannot find any independent coverage of this person. Mentions are only in the blurbs for his books, Linked In, press releases. Tacyarg (talk) 13:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Horace Pierite, Jr.

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Not meeting

WP:NBASIC, and tagged since February 2024 for notability, missing multiple independent sources. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 16:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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He has held national office, as Native American tribes are sovereign per U.S. law. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 12:07, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do we have any citations that go in depth and demonstrate significant press coverage, beyond a mere mention of his name? In order to meet
WP:NBASIC. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 19:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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TulsaPoliticsFan are you finding reliable citations that support this person was an elected official? PigeonChickenFish (talk) 23:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
this chapter from a book on tribes seeking federal recognition has a few chapters on the Tunica-Biloxi. It says in 1974 the tribe elected four council members, from whom the council then named Joe Pierite Jr. as the first tribal chairman; his sister, Rose Pierite White, as the first tribal secretary; Horace Pierite Jr., whose father had been chief before Joe Pierite Sr., as vice-chairman; and Sam Barbry Sr., the son of Eli Barbry, who was married to Horace Pierite Jr.’s sister, as the sole councilman. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 16:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The University of Oklahoma Law Library and The National Indian
Law Library of the Native American Rights Fund have copies of these docs. Here is an example showing Horace was Vice Chairman in 1974. https://thorpe.law.ou.edu/constitution/tunica-biloxie/index.html AvoyellesCajun (talk) 12:23, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Horace Pierite Jr held multiple offices within the Tunica Biloxi Tribal Government. He is also one of the four signers of their original legal documents filed with the State of Louisiana. The Tunica Tribe is a sovereign nation under U.S. law and treaty. I have no idea why PigeonChickenFish is trying to deny or diminish this Native American's contribution to his tribe and his nation. I have noticed a pattern with PigeonChickenFish regarding multiple Native Americans and their tribes in Louisiana. You can review PigeonChickenFish changes to those articles. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 12:12, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CIV. Also an AfD is not a denial of an entire Native American tribe, the issue here was notability. Lots of claims are made in the article with no sources or poor sources. When I tried to find the missing sources, I found none. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 04:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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After you extensively edited the article today, I am not seeing reliable sources still. Is anyone able to find more? PigeonChickenFish (talk) 08:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Who are you to state 13 citations to include those from newspapers, state university law libraries, state public records, and the US government to include the Bureau of Indian Affairs are reliable?
Please explain how these are not valid sources per Wikipedia policies.
Wikipedia accepts all of these as valid sources.
If you continue to violate wikipedia policies, I will file a complaint. You have not presented a single source or valid argument in accordance with the policies for removing this article. 47.189.34.40 (talk) 19:45, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article complies with Wikipedia policies and guidelines. It has 13 citations to include newspapers, news stations, state university law libraries, state public records, and the US Government's Bureau of Indian Affairs, which is the overseeing federal agency for Native American Tribes. All of the citations are reliable, verifiable, and meet Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.
The editor responsible for recommending this article be deleted, PigeonChickenFish has failed to provide any argument, source, citation, etc to delete the page.
Arguments without a valid reason with a verifiable source is not allowed.
Since there has not been a single counter citation or reason to delete the article of this Native American leader and politician, the discussion should be ended and the article remain. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 19:55, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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LOL. PigeonChickenFish, why are you stating that newspapers, state records, and the records from the US Bureau of Indian Affair are not independent. What is independent to you? Wikipedia views those sources are independent. Geez. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 19:57, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, it doesn’t meet
WP:NBASIC, which is still required. A passing mention does not amount to notability. Stop attacking me, this is not personal. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 03:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Dear Friend: The Three Bachelors

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Tagged as unreferenced since 2009. No good hits from GSearch, GNews and GNews Archives. Redirect to

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  • Delete: Some coverage of the show [27], but it's a trivial mention. I don't find any other sourcing we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 23:21, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 07:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ma Hunkel

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I couldn't any relevant source per BEFORE for this character; thus failing

WP:GNG. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 06:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep: The nominator doesn't account for the existing reliable sources cited in the article: Superhero: The Secret Origin of a Genre by Peter Coogan (2006), American Comic Book Chronicles: 1940-1944 by Kurt Mitchell and Roy Thomas (2019), and American Comic Book Chronicles: 1965-1969 by John Wells (2014). These published sources demonstrate notability for the character. Toughpigs (talk) 17:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep. Sources abound. This character has a notable place in history as DC's first costumed superhero even if she was a parody. When the nominator "couldn't any relevant source per BEFORE" [I assume the missing word was "find"], where exactly did the nominator look? The article includes some excellent sources already. For example, many scholars treat Peter Coogan's book as the definitive work on exactly what a superhero is. Did the nominator search for Red Tornado? (I realize it can be difficult to distinguish references to her from mentions of the modern android version of the Red Tornado.) Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 05:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect‎ to Kenji Tanigaki. Liz Read! Talk! 04:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Furious

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Fails

WP:GNG. Does not have sufficient independent significant coverage for a standalone article. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Withdrawn‎.

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The Haunting of Harrington House

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Fails

WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The Immortal Ashwatthama

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Fails

WP:ATD-R and Draftify would not be a bad idea. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Karuna Trust (Sri Lanka)

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Organization fails

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Sri Preston Kulkarni

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Redirect to either the

WP:POLITICIAN
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There is some routine coverage that one can expect in any semi-competitive congressional election. I do not believe that it meets the barrier for "significant coverage." The closest thing the article does to try and differentiate his candidacy from others is say he did outreach to Asian-American voters. Aside from its use of puffery, it's also NOT UNORTHODOX. Most viable campaigns reach out to persuadable voters and have literature/canvassers speak languages written/spoken in the district. Numerous campaigns have affinity subgroups (think Ethnic Americans for Dole/Kemp).

His father is Venkatesh Kulkarni, but notability is not inherited. There is nothing in the article stating his time in the United States Foreign Service was so unique as to warrant an entry and listing every country seems to be a way to mask the lack of notability Mpen320 (talk) 23:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep with some rewriting to focus on what constitutes notability. But I do think notability is there: I think the focus here should be on Kulkarni's unusual, early use of (now-popular) relational organizing tactics, in particular with Asian-American groups. The Intercept article already linked in the piece (legit national outlet, not state based coverage) touches on this but there are plenty of other articles out there, findable via cursory google search, that make this clear:

Two years ago, a Democrat named Sri Kulkarni attempted to oust an incumbent Republican from a congressional district outside Houston. His campaign turned to relational organizing, finding thousands of new voters in tight-knit immigrant communities that weren’t plugged into politics. Kulkarni lost by just 5 points, but his relational strategy caught fire, both nationally and in Texas. His organizing director, Emily Isaac, took the lessons she learned on Kulkarni’s race to Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign as his relational organizing director. Mother Jones, "The Unspoken Reason the Alaska Senate Race Is So Close"

Kulkarni’s campaign style is very focused on something he calls “relational organizing” — volunteers put effort into getting family, friends, co-workers, or other people they know in the community to get out and vote. “I think that by 2020, this is how all canvassing is going to be done,” he said. Vox, "A Texas Democrat’s radical experiment in turning out Asian-American voters could become a model for the party"

Kulkarni said that other campaigns call him for insight into his relational-organizing model: “They’ll ask us, ‘Is this proprietary?’ Of course not. I want people to copy what we’re doing in Texas Twenty-two all over America.” New Yorker, "Are Asian Americans the Last Undecided Voters?"÷

Kulkarni’s campaign built the largest relational organizing program in the nation during that election cycle, with volunteers phone-banking in 13 different languages. By connecting with so many tight-knit communities within the district, the campaign became something of a community in and of itself. Daily Kos, "A tied house race in Texas"

So - I grant that emphasis may need to change but here you've got really substantial coverage in national outlets, some of which is solely focused on Kulkarni and his pathbreaking use of relational organizing. Even the New Yorker article which isn't all about him gives him 6+ paragraphs. Feels notable to me. Sorry for the sloppy linking here btw, I'm just in a bit of a rush. Vivisel (talk) 18:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Voice of Life

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Radio station fails

WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus‎ but with prejudice against speedy renomination. The keep !voters consider a source reliable, which the rest of us may have difficulty judging. Clearly the nominator is not alone in disagreeing. However, shenanigans in which content including sources got deleted from the article while AfD was in progress may have unduly altered people's evaluations of it and thus the course of this discussion. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Mangal

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Extreme reliance on

WP:RAJ sources, no reliable/good secondary sources. Noorullah (talk) 02:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Note to closer: All the sources from the page were removed by an editor while the AFD nom was in progress. It is an attempt to sabotage other's decision for voting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RangersRus (talkcontribs) 13:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And a simple look at the page's edit history confirms this. Thank you for pointing that out. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:01, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.. Liz Read! Talk! 02:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Subject does not meet the GNG. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was withdrawn‎ (see here). Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:59, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdul Azim Badakhshi

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Doesn't meet

WP:NMMA Claggy (talk) 01:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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*Keep It meet

WP:ANYBIO
. I understand your concern regarding the notability of Abdul Azim Badakhshi on WP. However, Abdul Azim Badakhshi's unique background as Businessmen, social media personality and both an Pro-MMA athlete and a Pro-kickboxer sets him apart. While some athlete may not meet the notability criteria, Badakhshi's multifaceted sports career warrants recognition. Moreover, his status as a public figure in Afghanistan and india further emphasizes his significance. ==hampionship Status==: Abdul Azim Badakhshi's title as the AFC (Afghanistan Fighting Championship) Champion in the 76 kg weight class is a notable achievement in a recognized MMA organization. His participation in significant MMA events, including the main card of AFC - Afghanistan Fighting Championship 3,Brave CF 47 - Brave Combat Federation 47: Asian Domination, ACB 86 - Moscow highlights his prominence in the sport.

Media Coverage: Badakhshi has received substantial media coverage, with in-depth articles profiling his career and contributions to MMA. According to WP , a sportsperson is presumed to be notable if they have won a significant honor and received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. Badakhshi meets this criterion, indicating sufficient sources to meet the general notability guideline (GNG).

WP:BIOFAMILY Abdul Azim Badakhshi being the son-in-law of Jackie Shroff
, one of the most famous actors in Bollywood cinema, has always been a headline in Indian news. Their relationship has garnered millions of fans in India. This has led Badakhshi to become a public figure in India as well. https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/tiger-shroff-wishes-sister-krishna-shroff-on-her-birthday-gifts-her-a-trip-to-maldives-for-one-person-only-101642752859707.html

https://www.bollywoodshaadis.com/articles/meet-tiger-shroffs-sister-krishna-shroff-mma-trained-non-celeb-status-reality-show-debut-more-52002

Business and Social media personality Abdul Azim Badakhshi has extended his influence beyond the MMA ring into business and social media. He has invested in fitness and sports-related ventures, promoting health and wellness through training facilities that support aspiring athletes.

On social media, Badakhshi has garnered a substantial following on platforms like Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. His engaging content, including training videos and motivational posts, connects with millions of fans. He uses his platform to advocate for social causes, such as human rights and youth empowerment, making him a respected public figure.

Through his business ventures and active social media presence, Abdul Azim Badakhshi has become a multifaceted personality, inspiring many both in and out of the sports world.

I hope this information clarifies Abdul Azim Badakhshi’s notability. Thank you for considering this evidence. I am open to further discussion and additional sources if needed to support the inclusion of this article.Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 10:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:NOTGENEALOGY. Claggy (talk) 20:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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please have a look at this (https://www.independentpersian.com/node/199151/%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B2%D8%B4/%D9%BE%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B2%DB%8C-%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B2%D8%B4%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%81%D8%BA%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A8%D8%B2%D8%B1%DA%AF%E2%80%8C%D8%AA%D8%B1%DB%8C%D9%86-%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%B1%D8%B2%D9%85%DB%8C-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D9%87%D9%86%D8%AF)
As I seen
WP:RSP , The independent is considered as reliable source Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 22:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Please have a look at this https://www.bbc.com/persian/afghanistan-43362531 , As of
WP:RSP BBC is considered reliable source. Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 22:18, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The former President of the Republic of Afghanistan, Mohammad
Ashraf Ghani,
congratulated the victory of Abdul azim Badakhshi, the athlete of this country, who was able to defeat his Azerbaijani opponent Gishan Babayev in Bahrain.
Mr. Ghani said that Abdul Azim Badbakhshi and other athletes of this country are the representatives of modern Afghanistan and the guardians of the values ​​of the last two decades, who have proudly represented their nation in various sports arenas.
see this BBC post on social media
https://web.facebook.com/bbcpersian/photos/a.10150584966992713/10158961187972713/?type=3&_rdc=1&_rdr
Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 22:41, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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