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Page: Yeh Rishtey Hain Pyaar Ke (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Krish990 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [1] on 9 February 2020
2. [2] on 2 February 2020
3. [3] on 29 January 2020
4. [4] on 28 January 2020 at 18:07 (UTC)
5. [5] on 28 January 2020 at 13:15 (UTC)
6. [6] on 28 January 2020 at 09:12 (UTC) and many more times

Comments:
User Krish990 has been edit warring the article Yeh Rishtey Hain Pyaar Ke since a long time stating the supporting characters Rithvik Arora and Kaveri Priyam also as main cast while the original main cast are only Shaheer Sheikh and Rhea Sharma. Despite discussions in talk page of the series by providing reliable sources to prove that incorrect, the user still reverts back and is firm in his point without properly supported sources.

Page: Mudaliar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Kavin Mudaliar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [7]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. [8]
2. [9]
3. [10]
4. [11]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. [12]
2. [13]

Comments:

This user has been involved in an ongoing edit warring since August. There has been several attempts at the talk page to try gain consensus with the user, however due to among other pov-pushing, lack of knowledge of wikipedian policies and language barrier, have consensus not been reached. The user has already been banned before. However, the ban has not changed anything with the users edit warring approach.Xenani (talk) 21:25, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Xenani: When was the ban? I see a DS warning and a 24-hour block for edit warring, but I don't see a ban. —C.Fred (talk) 22:05, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

C.Fred, sorry I meant the user have been blocked, not banned. Xenani (talk) 09:49, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stale. El_C 19:23, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page:

Previous version reverted to: [14]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Reversion #1
2. Reversion #2
3. Reversion #3
4. Reversion #4

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [15]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [16]

Comments:

• Reversion # 1 was February 3. The others were reverts to Editgram's attempts to restore their preferred version. This editor has not properly warned me, nor posted to any talk pages before now. Neither of us has violated
  WP:3RR. Grayfell (talk) 21:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply
  ]
• Yes, reversion one doesn't count. The changes by Editgram should have been reverted and they have the onus to gain consensus. I see no 3RR violation for anyone. O3000 (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• No violation Both editors should take this matter to the talk page and discuss the situation there—something neither of them have done. —C.Fred (talk) 22:03, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes sir, we've both begun a discussion on the talk page. Please also note that AzureCitizen just reverted the page back to Grayfell's original which looks like a workaround to 3RR, and Grayfell posted "You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions" and various other official-looking messages to my personal talk board. We'll update you as this progresses. Thank you.

Editgram —Preceding undated comment added 22:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@C.Fred:

Please let me know how to proceed.

Editgram (talk) 23:07, 19 February 2020 (UTC)Editgram[reply]

1) You can take the content dispute where it belongs -- the

article talk page

-- not here.

2) You could actually discuss the CONTENT, instead of attempting to use this noticeboard as weapon as you did or attacking the the other editor as you are doing now. --Calton | Talk 15:26, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page

Selman Akbulut (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Ustun YILDIRIM (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 05:45, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "Well good if it is being discussed at the moment. We should refrain from writing wrong things."
2. 05:42, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "It says "due to the determination that he continuously attacked several of his colleagues by email". The quoted article does not state so. If it does please tell me exactly where it says that."
3. 05:31, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941540622 by Mr. Vernon (talk) It is a quotation not the official reason. There is a difference between the two. At the moment article represents a quotation from a person as if it was juries decision. So, this must be undone."
4. 05:22, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "No where it says he is fired due to determination that he attacked people by email."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 05:28, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "General note: Removal of content, blanking on
   TW
   )"
2. 05:37, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "Caution: Not adhering to neutral point of view on
   TW
   )"
3. 05:42, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on
   TW
   )"
4. 05:44, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "Warning: Removal of content, blanking. (
   TW
   )"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 03:58, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "/* The statement regarding allegations in the Career section needs to go */"

Comments:

There's a discussion on the talk page of the article trying to hammer out good wording - which I've participated in. I get being bold, but edit wars are not that. Mr. Vernon (talk) 05:47, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page protected. El_C 19:22, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page

101 Dalmatian Street (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

BaldiBasicsFan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 01:29, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941676693 by CrypticalFiery (talk) Again, they need to be like in the overall"
2. 23:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941579190 by 184.63.190.254 (talk) My god would you please stop! This page definitely deserves some protection"
3. 06:26, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "I literally meant by how the overviews supposed to be, they are supposed to have their confirmed overall and not like how are they released"
4. 15:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941410751 by 184.63.190.254 (talk) No! That is not how it goes!"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 01:49, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on
   TW
   )"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

User has repeatedly reverted other users' edits. Considering how active they are on the page, I suspect there might be a case of

Page

Rat (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Itlnstln921 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 14:50, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941763115 by
   talk
   )"
2. 14:45, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941762684 by Loadedonloaded (talk)"
3. 14:40, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941761999 by Loadedonloaded (talk)"
4. 14:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941759619 by Loadedonloaded (talk)"
5. 13:53, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941755911 by Loadedonloaded (talk)"
6. 04:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941683063 by Loadedonloaded (talk)"
7. 01:53, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941674383 by Loadedonloaded (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 14:49, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule. (
   TW
   )"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

• Blocked Itlnstln921 and Loadedonloaded (talk · contribs · count) for 24 hours.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:32, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page

Caroline Flack (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

SchroCat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 16:56, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "(edit conflict) Twks"
2. Consecutive edits made from 16:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC) to 16:51, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
   1. 16:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Principal shows */"
   2. 16:51, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Career */ Replacing Primary source; tweak"
   3. 16:51, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Career */ Twk"
3. 16:03, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "/* top */ For this one too?"
4. Consecutive edits made from 15:36, 20 February 2020 (UTC) to 15:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
   1. 15:36, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "/* top */ twk"
   2. 15:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Principal shows */ Twk (It's not "today", and I don't know what a "tabloid world" is supposed to mean)"
5. 15:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "/* top */ Grammar"
6. Consecutive edits made from 14:32, 19 February 2020 (UTC) to 14:35, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
   1. 14:32, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Strictly Come Dancing */ If it's not going to be hidden, then we should remove it: too much, particularly given the fact we have an article about the series where all these scores are held. The information is also sourced to an unreliable source and fails BLP by that"
   2. 14:33, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Career */ Putting this back into the chronological runthrough where it should be"
   3. 14:34, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Career */ Have her look 'into' the page, not 'out' of it"
   4. 14:35, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Career */ ~sigh~"
7. 10:55, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941568603 by Thursby16 (talk) Per BLP - needs a very good source"
8. 22:57, 18 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Death */ One individual's opinion shouldn't have any more weight than any other."
9. 17:05, 18 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Death */ This is trivia and something that we would expect from nearly every celebrity."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 07:25, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "r"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

1. 23:20, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Cause of Death */ side comment"
2. 23:45, 19 February 2020 (UTC) "/* Cause of Death */ r"

Comments:

And I'm apparently a "petty troll" for reporting and notifying the editor. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:03, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ABF seriously. Please keep that in mind. (Whoops. Seems the Reply script broke. Moved.) —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 19:16, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply

]

Thanks Moony; I do take it seriously but, as I've outlined before, when there has been disruption by an editor over three talk pages including untruths told about me and explanations of my actions being completely ignored because of a trifling grudge, my reservoir of GF runs a little dry. - SchroCat (talk) 19:21, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• No, you're a petty little troll for being disruptive on my talk page, the article talk page and the lies you wrote on MelanieN's talk page.

A couple of things I already mentioned on

WP:NOT3RR already, but it looks like you've ignored it entirely). Many of the actual reverts I have done have been because the sourcing is missing, or it is claiming something that is untrue - it is entirely acceptable to revert such breaches of the BLP policy. Once you take that on board, you will see that there are a few true reversions, and these are spread over an extended period. Many of these are for breaches of WP:ENGVAR or because of woeful grammar. 3. As I've said before, I cannot take someone like you seriously after you edit warred over adding spaces (and bringing in some awful formatting too): you have been extremely petty and disruptive in your approach since then. If anyone wants me for anything useful, you'll have to ping me, because I won't be watching this. - SchroCat (talk) 17:09, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply

]

Any change to another editor's content is a revert. See

WP:3RR. You've made four more since the report. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:40, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply

]

By that logic any edit made to existing text is a revert, is that really your argument here? MPJ-DK (talk) 18:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Görlitz, Yeek. Hate to say this, Walter, but you should withdraw this, take a careful moment to think this over, clean up your argument, and not present every single one of SchroCat's edits, and very carefully decide if this is even a valid report at all. —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 18:27, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) No, the following are exceptions:

# Reverting your own actions ("self-reverting").

# Reverting edits to pages in your own user space, so long as you are respecting the user page guidelines.

# Reverting actions performed by banned users in violation of their ban, and sockpuppets of banned or blocked users.

# Reverting obvious vandalism—edits that any well-intentioned user would agree constitute vandalism, such as page blanking and adding offensive language.

# Removal of clear copyright violations or content that unquestionably violates the non-free content policy (NFCC). What counts as exempt under NFCC can be controversial, and should be established as a violation first.

# Removal of other content that is clearly illegal under U.S. law, such as child pornography and links to pirated software.

# Removing contentious material that is libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced according to our biographies of living persons (BLP) policy. What counts as exempt under BLP can be controversial.

Are you suggesting the multiple edits made by SchroCat are exempt based on one or more of this criteria? Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:31, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Any change to another editor's content is a revert"? Ouch. I have already explained on several occasions that many of the reverts (the real reverts, not the things you think are reverts) were because of the BLP violations. I have explained this to you FOUR times (1, 2, 3 and 4) and I hope the message is now getting through. - SchroCat (talk) 18:36, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Walter Görlitz, I am, by not being reverts in the first place. No 3RR occured. Alongside that, it looks like you're attempting to "inflate" the charge against them by filling it with edits. I'm not going to review every single one, so how about you pick out the ones you feel are actually edit warring. —moonythedwarf (Braden N.) 18:38, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you won't do the work, I will assist. I have removed the trivial and unnecessary edits. What now remains are changes to other editors' work. Despite what SchroCat's understanding is the criteria is clear, that a change to another editor's work is a revert. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:52, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No violation. A change to another editor's work is not automatically a revert. There needs to be a Previous version reverted to shown —a parameter that was left blank in this report— to demonstrate that an edit constitutes a revert. El_C 18:58, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Also, that list of "reverts" includes typo fixes, correcting bad English, MOS fixes, moving text from one place to another, and even removing a BLP violation. We can't look at an EW report on the basis of that. Black Kite (talk) 19:01, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Gosh darn it, El C, For some dumb reason, I spent way too much time reviewing each of the diffs from the original poorly-formed report, only to find that (a) it had been shortened, and (b) you've just closed it. For what it's worth, here's my intended post:

  The report is malformed, and I probably should have closed it without reviewing all of the diffs to discourage future reports like this.

  WP:3RR

  . I also note that, unless I missed one, it does not appear any of them were repeats of a previous revert. No violation.

--Floquenbeam (talk) 19:06, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. In the future, I will link to this exact link if I'm ever brought here again. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:11, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Or indeed if you ever bring something here again - I mean you were "brought here" by you logging the complaint. MPJ-DK (talk) 04:17, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page:

Previous version reverted to: diff

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. diff
2. diff
3. diff
4. diff

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: link & link

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: here

Comments:
The topic was being discussed, when the reverts begin. Tried to maintain the

A simple comment on the situation:

Orlando nightclub shooting, name the suspect, even though none were convicted (couldn't be convicted, since they died). I'm pretty sure that Life of Colors is in the wrong on that one. MrThunderbolt1000T (talk) 18:46, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply

]

Page

Clonazepam (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

Olly7 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 23:48, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 941836419 by Praxidicae (talk) Vital information correctly formatted is here and could stop people falling ill. So why Praxidicae removes this I'm not sure? Doesn't sound very professional - medically does it?"
2. 23:40, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "My modifications contain VITAL information about drug interactions and are presented/fornatted correctly. This knowledge could maybe prevent someone from have a dangerous drug Interaction. WHY Doc James removed it,...no one knows! SO MUCH FOR A DOCTOR."
3. Consecutive edits made from 17:36, 20 February 2020 (UTC) to 17:37, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
   1. 17:36, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Adding new source as previous was apparently "spam" according to whom shall not be named. All corrected, official "no spam" source :)"
   2. 17:37, 20 February 2020 (UTC) ""
4. 17:08, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Undid revision 940588242 by Praxidicae (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

1. 17:21, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "/* February 2020 */"
2. 23:45, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule. (
   TW
   )"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

persistently adding unreliable spam and predatory sources despite multiple warnings from other users. See also Diazepam and Alprazolam Praxidicae (talk) 23:50, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Blocked indefinitely I've blocked Olly7 indefinitely with specific instructions on how they can be unblocked.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 00:04, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page

Toronto FC (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported

EG 1991 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to

Diffs of the user's reverts

1. 22:08, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Updated logo to reflect 2020 version."
2. 21:59, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Updated the logo to reflect the current version."
3. 21:50, 20 February 2020 (UTC) "Updated the logo to reflect the current version."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page

Comments:

• Declined. New user. No warning given. Only three reverts.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:20, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page: Veridia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Walter_Görlitz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [17]
2. [18]
3. [19]
4. [20]
5. [21]
6. [22]
7. [23]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. [24]
2. [25]
3. [26]
4. [27]

Comments:
This has been an ongoing edit war since August of 2019. Multiple editors have pointed out the same facts using different reliable references, yet their edits are quickly reverted. An RFC was published and the results were split but there seems to have been instances where reference articles were using the Wiki article as one of their sources.

I am trying to make the band's page current and accurate (including using all caps for their name which is accurate) using many different and reliable references, including the official announcement by their previous label where the band was said to be "Alternative", and nothing else. Examples of other band pages that fit this exact issue were given to make a point that references used in their pages seemed to not be allowed on this page. One major reference discrepancy is that other pages used band interviews as references yet it seems that this page cannot use similar articles. Some of these examples are listed in the talk page.
I understand the need for accurate references and multiple editors, including myself, have provided many accurate articles in support of the correction I am trying to make. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MJC8104 (talk • contribs) 04:43, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• No violation – This page is for recent edit warring; Walter has made only one revert so far in 2020. It takes four reverts in a 24 hour period to break the 3RR rule. Consider the steps of
  WP:Manual of style. EdJohnston (talk) 05:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply
  ]

Umayyad Caliphate [[Umayyad Caliphate]] 
Rotating ips 213.205.194.236 , 213.205.240.146 and others User being reported: Rotating ips 213.205.194.236 , 213.205.240.146 and others (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

• On , Umayyad Caliphate (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). There's been a string of ips with big unreferenced changes to data, (which is correct & referenced), starting with this on 12 February - string of ip addresses. Johnbod (talk) 02:35, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Previous version reverted to: [28]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [29]
2. [30]
3. [31]
4. [32]
5. [33]
6. [34]
7. [35]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [36]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [37]

This article gets over 2,000 views a day.

Page:

Previous version reverted to: [38]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [39]
2. [40]
3. [41]
4. [42]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [43]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff] User initiated blocks for multiple users opposing his reverted edits. History of this user suggests approaching him for resolution would not be productive: [44]

Comments: