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before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! --Flex (talk/contribs) 05:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)reply to Flex
Thanks for the welcome and links to the Tutorial etc. I originally logged on since I felt that contributions as large as I was making (I have added 2 paragraphs to the Hugh Bourne article) were better done by someone who did not remain anonymous. I have some interest in Methodist history, and was pleasantly surprised to find that the originator (presumably) of this article had linked to a biography of Bourne which I posted some years ago on my web site. My original choice of user name was already taken, and I thought that this one would probably be unique. I have Methodist ancestors from Ramsor, Staffordshire, and it is one of the significant places in Primitive Methodist history.
I looked at your Talk Page, and found so many posts I thought it best to reply to you here. As far as I can see, the only means of posting in this way is to use the Edit Page option, which also means learning the peculiarities of the Wiki codes for formatting. I will now add the 4 tildes and see if it works for me.
Robert of Ramsor (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Using the Preview option, I see that it has added my signature.
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Hello. Take a look at my recent edits to Methodist Union. Wikipedia:Manual of Style calls for fairly sparing use of capital letters in section headings. Thus "See also" and "External links", with lower-case "a" and lower-case "l", are correct. In the case of "Hymn Book" I decided it could be considered an abbreviation of the book title, so I left the "B" as capital, but since book titles are to be italicized, I set that section heading in italics. Michael Hardy (talk) 21:35, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
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I think the best way to proceed with a possible Methodism group would be to list one on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals page, and see if it gets sufficient interest. The proposal is now listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Methodism. My guess is it will garner enough interest.
Regarding the changes to the articles, I think what you're basically talking about is to set up those sections in accord with Wikipedia:Summary style, which is something we would all clearly have no objections to. Whether they would be necessarily be identical in both articles is possibly questioinable, but the idea is definitely in accord with wikipedia editing guidelines. John Carter (talk) 15:16, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
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copying my note on Methodist doctrine from Methodism discussion
This is what I posted on the Methodism article Discussion page about my Difference between arminianism and calvinism. I have copied it here in case anyone wants to discuss this on my Talk rather than the wider Methodism pages.
note in Lead on armininanism calvinism difference
Please note that this needs moving (later, when the whole article is further revised) from the Lead section to one on Beliefs in the article body, since the Lead is too long. I hope to work on this in April to cut down the number of words in the Lead.
I have changed back to what I said on the distinction between arminianism and calvinism for the following reasons.
My original is
The primary difference is that Arminians interpret the Bible as teaching that the saving work of Jesus Christ is for all people (
end of extract.
A. Jacobus Arminius and John Wesley are fully within Reformation principles and thinking. Note that I did not say Reformed here, partly because some calvinists equate reformed with calvinist ignoring the wider strands of the Reformation. The principles known as the "4 Solas" (or 5 in some lists) are common ground between arminians and calvinists.
B. "Election to damnation" is one of the basic tenets of calvinism (though not part of the TULIP summary), as is "limited atonement". (I think it is the 1659 Particular Baptist Confession, I need to check when I get time.) On calvinist discussion web sites (example, Challies), some refer to unbelievers as "VOWFTD" - "vessels of wrath fitted to destruction". While I would not include this in a Wikipedia article, it can be found by anyone looking at these discussions.
C. As an engineer by training, I see the calvinistic emphasis on the decrees of God from the beginning of eternity as being deterministic, hence including the term.
I therefore maintain that my original (accepting with thanks the edit by KitHutch) is an accurate and factual description and I therefore stand by it as according with Wikipedia principles. But there may be a case for inserting a note that calvinists also accept the Solas.
Robert of Ramsor (talk) 19:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Correction - Baptist Confession is 1689 not 1659. Anyone who reads Section 3, on God's Decree, cannot fail to see either determinism or election to damnation. By way of example, young Andrew Fuller (1754-1815) scandalised the society of Soham Baptist Church for rebuking a fellow member for drunkenness; the pastor excused Fuller for his youth, and argued responsibility for keeping from open sins, and was forced to resign; the man admonished by Fuller "smelt ... the Arminian heresy that a man could be his own keeper in matters of conduct." (Griffiths, "A pocket History of the Baptist Movement", p.109) Yet calvinist Paul Washer is preaching this "arminian heresy" of holy living as vigorously as John Wesley. (I am giving reference for my original statement, not advocating a doctrine.) I need to add the 1689 Confession as a reference to the Methodism article. Robert of Ramsor (talk) 20:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia is (or so I understand) not the place to debate issues of doctrine in great detail. But I think it is allowed to debate references to primary material to authenticate particulars (no pun on calvinistic baptists intended) in articles. BTW, I find that I have contributed 11 references on the numbered list of 20, just on my revision of the Lead section alone. Robert of Ramsor (talk) 21:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for the heads up. I have made some edits to the article to bring it in line with
Three Shires Head
Thanks for your comment on this (which I've moved by the way - by convention these usually go on the User Talk page not the User page). There are of course many of these '3 shires' places (there is one called Three Shires Stones near us, which I didn't know about until it started appearing on Tesco egg-boxes). Yes you're right about the Dove, but somehow Derbyshire always calls the shots on Peak District matters ('Some of the best bits of 'Derbyshire' are in Staffordshire'... and under the Maud report on local governement of the early 70s nearly where in reality :-)). Bob aka Linuxlad (talk) 08:28, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Pass, I've not got involved in Co ordinates and the maps yet. I'd seen the comment about it not liking boundaries on the talk page. Did not get what you mean about it showing Edinburgh at first but i see what you mean on the Hollinsclough map about it goeing a bit out. I'll copy question over to Keith D on the Yorkshire project and see if he can help or point out an expert. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 00:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
H B Kendall
I am new to contributing to Wikki and not au fait with its netiquette and nuances [so I hope I am posting this right]. I have been researching the KENDALL family for about 25+ years [I am a descendant]. I have extensive knowledge and collected vast amounts of data for them. Which I am using in a book I am currently writing on them and this takes all of my free time at the minute.
As a family historian I know there was no standardisation of spellings of names [you have noted this]. Bickerstaff can indeed be spelt with or without an 'e', in my own documentation for the family the spelling switches between both. However from family knowledge [I am in touch with several of HBK'S descendants] and some of the documentation I have; we know Holliday went by the name of H. Bickerstaffe Kendall and not H.B. Kendall [his descendants also use the 'e']. A biography in the Aldersgate Magazine p396-397 1919; the Primitive Methodist Magazine of 1900 p723-4; the PM minutes 1919 p274, Who Was Who vol II (1916-1928)and the book Ministers and Probationers with circuits etc 1963 [Martin & Sheldon] and his gravestone; all use H. Bickerstaffe Kendall. In his will he uses his full name; again with addition of an 'e'. So for the sake of continuity I have used Bickerstaffe with an 'e' in my research. There is also an online portrait for him in the New York Public Library Digital Archive which also uses the 'e'.
Whilst I agree William Leary is an excellent staring point for Methodism [he helped me immensely after personal contact in starting my book] My research into Methodism has shown there are discrepancies and errors in his works [just like HBK and probably mine]. Leary's "Directory of Primitive Methodist Ministers and their Circuits" is a secondary source. Leary may have made the errors in transcription or the anomaly comes from the original document(s) for the missing 'e'.
I am not sure what you mean in this sentence "Bickerstaff is NOT listed in Leary, so was not a Primitive Methodist Minister."
I was very pleased to see your addition to Wikki for HBK. At long last an opportunity for his story to be told. You asked for contributions and sources to this entry which I have duly supplied. I would love to add more but have no idea how to upload images and it is all still a steep learning curve for me. My main priority at the minute is completion of my book and so I do not have the time to devote to Wikki at the moment. Ironically my final chapter is that of HBK. Today I have been to take photographs of William Clowes and other noteworthy PM's of Hull headstones [what a sorry sight it was](MBorrill (talk) 21:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC))
I found the Wikipedia article while preparing for the anniversary of a General Baptist church which split off from a Particular Baptist church in 1833. A personal viewpoint here. The number of hymns celebrating Election seems to me to show a distortion, by taking one small point and magnifying it out of all proportion. Which is how error starts. (I will probably have many of the calvinists after me like a Synod of Dortrecht.) A couple of William Gadsby's very good hymns are used in the book Christian Hymns (Evangelical Movement of Wales, Bryntirion Press), and I quoted one of these in my sermon. But I have to look to Wesley for a truer understanding of such doctrine as Election. Thank God for those who have continued to bring received doctrine into line with what the Bible has to say. Robert of Ramsor (talk) 15:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Joseph Chance
I just redirected the article Joseph Chance to Chance Brothers. In case you want to keep some of the content for the article Chance Brothers, here it is:
Joseph Chance gave his name to a glass manufacturing company which was one of the largest such companies in 19th century Britain. The Chance Glassworks was located in the industrial area between Smethwick and Oldbury in the Black Country. This site is now bisected by the M5 motorway betweens junctions 1 and 2, where two of the ornate buidings make prominent landmarks. The southern section of the glassworks site is now an industrial estate whose origins are commemorated in the road name Crystal Drive. One of the many significant products of the Chance Glassworks was the Fresnel lens pieces for lighthouses. --Afluegel (talk) 21:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments on my talk page. I am also looking forward to the contributions of your friend.--Afluegel (talk) 16:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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The strength of Wikipedia, which is that it may be updated by anyone in the world, is its fatal flaw.
One of the rules of Wikipedia is that contributions must always be referenced back to another published source. In most cases, that earlier source is such that it may be regarded as authoritative for the subject matter of the article.
So when I wrote an article about the village of Peterstow (Herefordshire), as well as personal observation and my own photographs, I made extensive use of the Peterstow Millenium Book, which was written by the villagers for the year 2000. When suggesting that the Ivy Bush public house on the Hagley Road in Edgbaston was mentioned in The Lord of the Rings, I referenced this with the exact page in (my copy of) TLotR and a photo, plus the information that it is the closest pub to the Oratory which J R R Tolkien attended; there being no known published reference to this item.
The fatal flaw, Wikipedia's overwhelming weakness, is that in many cases it has been hijacked as a propoganda machine. So when I added a small note in the article on David Bellamy to the effect that his views on global warming had some support amongst scientists, my edit was immediately deleted by another editor who was a propogandist for the man-made global warming agenda. (My restoration has remained.)
I commonly hear comments about the factual unreliability of Wikipedia.
Now World Net Daily has highlighted how Wikipedia has been hijacked so that vital historical and scientific information has been erased from the record. A WND article, History of climate gets 'erased' online, details how a Wikipedia Adminstrator has fiddled the facts.
When Wikipedia Administrators falsify articles the reputation of Wikipedia as a trustworthy source of information lies in ruins.
-- Robert of Ramsor (talk) 00:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Llanelwedd
I was about to ask one of the BBC WM presenters to look at this article to get the link to the Llanelwedd Arms Hotel. So I have sent her the link to the previous version. As far as I am concerned, the link I put in is not "spam", but part of the general encyclopaedic information about Llanelwedd. I would have like to say a lot more about this hotel, having found it to be one of the relatively few places to eat out wher you wish you lived near enough to go back there regularly. I restrained my contribution to mere encyclopaedic facts, rather than what could be counted as partisan advertising. -- Robert of Ramsor (talk) 09:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not the Michelin Guide or the AA Travel guide. Unless the hotel or any other premises is notable in the history or culture of location which is the focus of that article, then its inclusion is wholly questionable. See WP:NOT where it states that Wikipedia is not a travel guide. Unless you can justify it on grounds within an encyclopedic entry, then I or another editor will continue to remove it. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 09:20, 5 August 2010 (UTC)]
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- No problem, we all make mistakes, and this was one easily cleared away. You may wish to be particularly careful when composing your titles; even if "Arranging" had been correct, "Aranging" with just one R certainly wouldn't have been, and correcting an error in the title, while not difficult, does add a bit more complication than correcting a misspelling anywhere else in the article. Perhaps that same spelling error afflicted your searches? --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:11, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
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By John Carter
Church of the month
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by User:Diliff
Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of
Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. As biographies are often a bit easier, this month we are choosing two biographies:
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Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, William de Chesney (sheriff), Knights of Columbus, and Angelus Silesius were promoted to GA level.
Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.
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Wikinews is our sister site for developing news stories. Several events relating to Christianity, like the installation of bishops for instance, do not necessarily merit extensive coverage in wikipedia encyclopedic articles, but can and easily could be covered at greater length in a news article format. Given the number of significant news events that relate to religion, including claims of miracles, assignment of bishops and other religious leaders, church conferences, and other events, this site provides an excellent opportunity to provide in-depth coverage of current events at greater length than wikipedia.
Christian art
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One of our newer editors, User:David_FLXD, has recently gone through much of our content related to Methodism and assessed it. We are very grateful for his efforts, and that of all the editors who have had a role in developing that content. We have every reason to believe that this will make it significantly easier for the Methodism work group to create and develop content relevant to Methodism. To help that along, we certainly encourage everyone to do what they can to help David and the other Methodism editors to bring the content relevant to their tradition to the highest possible level of quality.
I believe
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Church of the month
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by User:Diliff
Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of
Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. Last month's challenge articles were
Calendar
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Featured content and GA report
Since the last report,
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Christian art
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Spotlight
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I believe
... that human nature is insufficient for salvation, and the grace of God is required to do so. I believe that God has preordained who will and will not achieve salvation. I believe that Jesus's atonement was sufficient for the purposes for which it was done. I believe that God's grace is of such power that it can overcome any person's resistance. I believe that those whom God has chosen for salvation will, by the undeniable power of God, persevere in God's grace. I am a
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WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter
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Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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Church of the month
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by User:Taxiarchos228, recently promoted to Featured Image
Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will be to develop content related to the
One of last month's challenge articles,
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Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Augustinian theodicy by User:ItsZippy was promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Merseyside by User:Peter I. Vardy was promoted to Featured List. The images in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status. John Wheelwright by User:Sarnold17, Christmas Party (The Office) by User:Gen. Quon and If We Are the Body by User:Toa Nidhiki05, were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Cathedral of Saint Demetrius, Craiova, by User:Biruitorul, Nerses IV the Gracious by User:John Carter, Church of St Candida and Holy Cross by User:BarretB, St Laurence's Church, Morland by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Mary's Church, Longfleet by User:Bermicourt, Chor von St. Bonifatius by User:Gerda Arendt, St Andrew's Church, Penrith by User:Peter I. Vardy, Holy Rosary Cathedral (Vancouver) by User:Bloom6132, Sacred Heart Cathedral (Kamloops) by User:Bloom6132, St Columba's Church, Warcop by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Oswald's Church, Ravenstonedale by User:Peter I. Vardy, and W. E. Biederwolf by User:John Foxe. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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Spotlight
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Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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By John Carter
Church of the month
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Recently promoted to Featured Image. Great work!
Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will continue with the
Calendar
This coming month (mid-November through mid-December) includes the
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report,
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George Cosens
Sorry for the delay in responding. I have copied the article onto my own computer, and will attempt to find any information available to me and add it to the articles in the next few weeks. However, I really at this point am not sure that this biography, based on the current text, is necessarily the best one for a collaboration. I'm basing the current selection of articles on those which are included in the roughly 3,000 article Encyclopedia of Religion edited by Mircea Eliade and Lindsay Jones, of which I think only about 5 or 6 hundred specifically relate to Christianity. Yeah, even at this point, there are several articles, although, admittedly, not so many biographies, included in that comparatively short number of subjects seen to be important enough to include in that encyclopedia of religion which we still don't have here yet, and I hope that the broad significance of those topics, and, honestly, the easy availability of that source, should make those articles among the more likely to be created. The comparative lesser broad significance of this topic makes to my eyes the likelihood of it getting even the attention the recent selections have gotten, at this point, still unlikely.
I am in the process of getting together lists of articles included in various more focused reference books, including where possible one for each of the existing related/sub-projects, and hope to have most of them done by the end of the year. When I do accomplish that, I hope to maybe have a broader list of proposed articles for each newsletter thereafter, maybe including up to one or two articles for related group. Even on some of the lists I have already finished, I am finding several of the articles included in the sometimes rather short list of articles in those reference books don't exist yet here either.
Give me a few weeks and I will see what I can find on this subject myself. Luckily, I have access to a few really good libraries. John Carter (talk) 20:19, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - December 2012
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From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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By John Carter
Church of the month
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This image of
was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!
Contest of the month
As I imagine many of our editors will be editing at a greatly reduced level for the next few weeks, what with the Christmas and New Year's holidays coming, there is no specific content-related contest this month. The contest, if anything, is to make the most of the season, in whatever way, if any, you deem appropriate.
Calendar
This coming month (mid-December through mid-January) includes the
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report,
Christian art
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Spotlight
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In the spirit of Christmas, the spotlight for the coming month might actually best be on those people closest to you. We know that a lot of our editors here are associated in some way or another with schools, and many if not most of them are going on rather extended breaks for the holidays. This can give some of us a chance to meet up with old friends, spend time with our families and those close to us, and, in a sense, "recharge" for the new year. So, for all of you who are in some way part of that group, we wish you the very best of holidays. We hope you all return to editing after the holidays with your spirits lifted and with your energies at peak level. There are some small matters in development here as well, and it is our hope that some of them will be ready come the next newsletter. But, until then, we wish you all the happiest and holiest (if appropriate) holidays.
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - January 2013
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January 2013 |
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Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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By John Carter
Church of the month
This image of Alexander Nevsky Cathedral in Tallinn, Estonia by User:Poco a poco
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, the image in the "Church of the Month" section of this newsletter was promoted to Featured Image status.
Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes, BWV 40 by Gerda Arendt and others, Teuruarii IV by Lemurbaby, KAVEBEAR and others, and Peace on Earth (Casting Crowns album) by Toa Nidhiki05 and others, were all promoted to GA status.
Also this past month, the DYKs on the main page included St James' Church, Cardington by Peter I. Vardy, Bishop's Palace, Kraków by Poeticbent, Kippinge Church by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Trinitatis Church, also by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Steindamm Church by Olessi, St Laurence's Church, Church Stretton by Peter I. Vardy, Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Meteora, by Peter I. Vardy, Sonrise Church, by Aboutmovies, St. Peter's Episcopal Church (Albany, New York), by Daniel Case, All Saints Church, Claverley, by Peter I. Vardy, and Church of the Holy Virgin Mary of Lourdes, by Poeticbent. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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This image was created by User:Dcoetzee. Thank you, Dcoetzee!
Spotlight
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The Spotlight this month turns to the
By John Carter
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter April 2013
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April 2013 |
Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 357 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members,
From the Editor
We apologise for the hiatus in the publication of this newsletter due to unforseen circumstances leading to the wikibreak of John Carter, and so I have taken over as acting editor, and have taken this opportunity to move the publication date to the start of each month as planned, to better reflect on the previous month and look ahead to the next. This issue covers the period of time from mid-January to the end of March.
Since the last issue we have seen the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of Pope Francis. This has received much coverage both in the world media and on Wikipedia. While there is still much work to do, several quality articles have been written and the editors involved are thanked for their efforts.
This month we look ahead to Easter and the celebration of God's love for mankind through the crucifixion and resurrection of his Son Jesus Christ. With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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By Gilderien
Church of the month
This image of the Church of Saint Ildefonso, Portugal by Poco a poco was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report;
Grade I listed churches in Cumbria was promoted to Featured List status, thanks to Peter I. Vardy, and the image above of the Church of Saint Ildefonso was promoted to featured picture status.
Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included
Christian art
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Spotlight
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The Spotlight this month turns to the
By Gilderien
Calendar
This coming month (end-March through end-April) includes
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (May 2013)
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May 2013 |
Membership report
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From the Editor
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This month we hear the news that the Bible is to be made into a film after outstanding success of a biblical miniseries on the History Channel, and we have seen the release of Iraqi Pastor Ali Hamzah from his confinement in Iraq.
After last month's spotlight on the Jesus work group, the flagship article, Jesus, was nominated for Good Article status after much work from FutureTrillionaire and History2007, and provisionally passed by the reviewer, although they have requested a second opinion. Our many thanks for the hard work that has gone into restoring this article to a quality piece of work.
This month the second largest denomination of Christianity, the Eastern Orthodox Church, celebrates Easter and the death and resurrection of the Son of God Jesus Christ.
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By Gilderien
Church of the month
Wells Cathedral was this month promoted to GA status. Rodw has appealed for any help project members can give to improve this article for a FA nomination.
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content.
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report;
Featured report;
Wells Cathedral, by Rodw, Robert of Ghent, by User:Ealdgyth, Christianity in Medieval Scotland, by Sabrebd, and Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, also by Sabrebd were promoted to GA status.
Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included
Christian art
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Spotlight
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SPOTLIGHT
This month, we turn our attention to the
By Gilderien
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)
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From the Editor
Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.
From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.
We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.
Church of the month
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The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.
Good articles and DYKs
The article
Focus on...
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THE
HISTORICAL JESUS
Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.
In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.
The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.
From the bookshelf
Just a few years after its publication,
Did you know...
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- ... that Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handelat times did the same?
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (July 2013)
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WP:X has gained another Featured Article, Gospel of the Ebionites, by Ignocrates. The Gospel of the Ebionites is the name scholars give to an apocryphal gospel that supposedly belonged to a sect known as the Ebionites. It consists of seven short quotations discovered in a heresiology known as the Panarion, written by Epiphanius of Salamis, and its original title remains unknown. The text is a gospel harmony composed in Greek, and is believed to have been written during the middle of the 2nd century.
St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn was promoted to Good Article status, as was two other welsh churches, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, and St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch.
The main page also featured several DYK hooks for articles in our project, namely
Church of the month
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 367 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members,
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HISTORICAL JESUS
When did Jesus live? When did he die? How do we know? We do, in fact, have excellent information about the time intervals for the life and death of Jesus. As in other people who lived and died in the first century, this gives an approximate date range, but still, give or take 3-4 years and we have pretty good estimates confirmed by a number of really diverse sources, ranging from inscriptions in Delphi to Roman and Jewish sources. The Chronology of Jesus article discusses how a wide variety of Christian, Jewish and Roman sources are used to establish the time-frame for the life and death of Jesus.
And all of his data fits together. For instance, the chronology of Paul had been discussed based on the
From the bookshelf
This two volume book (with a very apt title) is gem-filled with scholarly research.
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- ... that the Russian journalist Hemis monastery that an adult Jesus had traveled to India, later confessed to fabricating his evidence?
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August 2013 WikiProject Christianity Newsletter
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Welcome to the August 2013 issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. We focus on the historical Jesus and reflect on the last month.
The project has another featured picture,
Our project had several of its articles featured in the main page DYK section, including
Our thanks go to all of those who have worked to achieve these article milestones.
Church of the month
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This image, of Maillezais Cathedral and created by Selbymay was this month promoted to featured picture status.
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HISTORICAL JESUS
What was Jesus like? What did he preach? Did he claim to be the Messiah? Did he predict an apocalypse? What can we know about him outside a religious context? The Historical Jesus article discusses what can be known about Jesus with various degrees of probability. While scholars agree on the over all flow and outline of Jesus' life (his baptism by John, debated Jewish authorities, healings, and his crucifixion by Pilate) they have built various and diverging portraits of the rest of his life. These range from minimalist portraits that accept very little of the gospel accounts to maximalists who accept most of the accounts as historical.
The portraits of Jesus have at times been unwitting reflections of the researchers themselves, and Crossan once quipped that some authors "do autobiography and call it biography". However, the study of historical Jesus has made one thing clear: there is so much to learn about Jesus that the more one looks, the more there is to discover.
From the bookshelf
In this book Maurice Casey not only draws on his special expertise in the Aramaic traditions and the Q source, but provides a comprehensive review of the various approaches to the historical Jesus.
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- ... that in 1951 Christianity was the second largest religion in the world with 500 million followers, compared to 520 million Buddhists, but by 2013 it had gained the top spot with about 2.2 billion Christians?
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In Arminianism, the chart 4.1 “Comparison among Protestants” contains (a) only one vague citation and (b) material that contradicts well-documented material in the Arminianism article. Please give me your opinion of my draft of a replacement table at User:Vejlefjord/FullWikiTable - draft in which I have (a) added citations for every cell, (b) corrected spelling, and (c) conformed table’s content to its context. Thanks. Vejlefjord (talk) 20:58, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- Wow! your response displayed an erudition beyond mine or the table. My draft table seems more consonant with the facts than the current one, so I plan to use it. Please feel free to edit it after I do so. Vejlefjord (talk) 21:18, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Proposal to move Methodism work group to child project
You are listed as an active member of the Methodism work group, as such I'd like to bring my proposal to your attention Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Methodism. Jerodlycett (talk) 12:58, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
- Like I said there, if you have any way to digitize, preferably in .djvu or .pdf forms, any of the books and documents you might have which are in the public domain, and upload them to commons, we would greatly welcome it. I at this point do more over at wikisource than at wikipedia, transcribing the texts, breaking them up into sections, and that sort of thing, and if the files were generated and pointed out to me, particularly if they might have content which is already of a broadly "encyclopedic" nature, I would be more than happy to help transcribe them, break them up into separate pages per article, and make it easier to import to wikipedia content from them. John Carter (talk) 17:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
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Belated Happy Easter and Kalo Pascha! We're excited to announce the return of our newsletter Ichthus! Getting this issue out was touch-and-go for a while. Check out what's happening at the Project:
- There was a lively discussion about the Easter Did You Know nomination Christ the Lord is Risen Today
- RFC at Knights of Columbus regarding a question about having Prop 8 in the lead
- In anticipation of being nominated for Featured article, Presbyterian Church in the United States of America was put up for Peer Review by Ltwin
- The death of Billy Graham on February 21 was a profound loss for many. For the Wikipedia reaction see this discussion. Graham received a blurb.
- And... Order of Friars Minor--nominated by Chicbyaccident--is still waiting for a GA reviewer. Please help out if you can.
Achievements
In March the Project saw four articles promoted to GA-Class. They were the oh-so-irresistible Delilah (nom. MagicatthemovieS) (pictured), Edict of Torda (nom. Borsoka), David Meade (author) (nom. LovelyGirl7) and last but not least Black Christmas (2006 film) (nom. Drown_Soda). Black Christmas? How did that get in there lol? Congratulations to all of the nominators for a job well done!
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Nominated by The C of E
... that some people know
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Ichthus: May 2018
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Last month's auspicious relaunch of our newsletter precipitated something of an uproar in the Wikipedia community. What started as a localized edit war over censorship spilled over onto the Administrator's Noticeboard finally ending up at Wikipedia's supreme judicial body ArbCom. Their ruling resulted in the admonishment of administrator Future Perfect at Sunrise for his involvement in the dispute. The story was reported by Wikipedia's venerable flagship newspaper The Signpost.
The question of whether to delete all portals--including the 27 Christianity-related portals--was put to the Wikipedia community. Approximately 400 editors have participated in the protracted discussion. Going by !votes, Oppose deletion has a distinct majority. The original Christianity Portal was created on November 5, 2005 by Brisvegas and the following year he successfully nominated the portal for Featured Portal. The Transhumanist has revived WikiProject Portals with hopes of revitalizing Wikipedia's system of 1,515 portals.
Stay up-to-date on the latest happenings at the Project
Achievements
Four articles in the Project were promoted to GA: Edict of Torda nom. by Borsoka, Jim Bakker nom. by LovelyGirl7, Ralph Abernathy nom. by Coffee and Psalm 84 nom. by Gerda_Arendt. The Psalm ends with "O Lord of hosts, blessed is the man that trusteth in thee." Words to live by. Please support our members and send some WikiLove to the nominators!
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"... that, shortly after being sentenced to death for treason, Ioan C. Filitti became manager of the National Theatre Bucharest?"
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The big news was the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. The Top 7
- Elizabeth I of England – legendary monarch who ushered in the Elizabethan Era over the dead body of her half-sister(#5)
- Henry VIII of England– on his deathbed the last words of the king who founded the English Reformation were "Monks! Monks! Monks!"
- Martin Luther King Jr. – can't wait to see the new US$5 bill featuring the "I Have a Dream" speech
- Seven deadly sins – surprisingly "original research" is not one of the Seven deadly sins
- Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC)
- Michael Curry (bishop) – our article says that he upstaged Meghan at her wedding. Did you see her wedding pictures? All I can say is {{dubious}}
- Robert F. Kennedy – when informed that missiles were being installed in Cuba he famously quipped, "Can they hit Oxford, Mississippi?"
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... that the little-known 1758 Methodist hymn "Sun of Unclouded Righteousness" asks God to send the doctrine of the "Unitarian fiend ... back to hell", referring to both Islam and Unitarianism?
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Polls conducted in 2012 across 20 countries found over 14% of people believe the world will end in their lifetime, with percentages raging from 6% of people in France to 22% in the US and Turkey. In the UK in 2015, the general public believed the likeliest cause would be
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- Louis XIV of France– a monarch of the House of Bourbon who reigned as King of France. He did say, "Every time I appoint someone to a vacant position, I make a hundred unhappy and one ungrateful."
- Elizabeth I of Englandin 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
- Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
- six marriages.
- Martin Luther King Jr. –" There are three urgent and indeed great problems that we face not only in the United States of America but all over the world today. That is the problem of racism, the problem of poverty and the problem of war."
- Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.
... that the first attempt to build the Holy Trinity Cathedral of the Alexander Nevsky Lavra resulted in the demolition of the nearly completed structure?
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- six marriages.
- Carthusian monk Lanspergiusfrom Spanish into Italian.
- Elizabeth I of Englandin 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
- Bob Dylan – American singer-songwriter, author, and visual artist. " Take care of all your memories. For you cannot relive them."
- Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
- Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.
... that The
When God Writes Your Love Story: The Ultimate Approach to Guy/Girl Relationships is a 1999 book by Eric and Leslie Ludy, an American married couple. After becoming a bestseller on the Christian book market, the book was republished in 2004 and then revised and expanded in 2009. It tells the story of the authors' first meeting, courtship, and marriage. The authors advise single people not to be physically or emotionally intimate with others, but to wait for the spouse that God has planned for them.
The book is divided into five sections and sixteen chapters. Each chapter is written from the perspective of one of the two authors; nine are by Eric, while Leslie wrote seven, as well as the introduction. The Ludys argue that one's love life should be both guided by and subordinate to one's relationship with God. Leslie writes that God offers new beginnings to formerly unchaste or sexually abused individuals.
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Hello To editor Robert of Ramsor:. For your information I reactivated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Arminianism. In addition, I proposed "Arminianism" to be part of the vital articles of Wikipedia, Wikipedia_talk:Vital_articles/Level/4#Add_Arminianism, can you have a look and forward this request to other people who may be willing to vote for it ? ---Telikalive (talk) 12:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
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- Dolly Parton - an American singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer, actress, author, businesswoman, and humanitarian, known primarily for her work in country music.
Quotations related to Dolly Parton at Wikiquote: " I just depend on a lot of prayer and meditation. I believe that without God I am nobody, but that with God, I can do anything."
- Underground Railroads. During the American Civil War, she served as an armed scout, spy for the Union Army.
- six marriages.
- ... that Jesuitcollege established in the southern United States?
- ... that the ancient Jewish text of Perek Shirah asserts that spiders and rats praise God using verses from Psalm 150?
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Being a Ghost Story of Christmas, commonly known as A Christmas Carol, is a novella by Charles Dickens, first published in London by Chapman & Hall in 1843 and illustrated by John Leech. The book is divided into five chapters, which Dickens titled "staves". A Christmas Carol recounts the story of Ebenezer Scrooge, an elderly miser who is visited by the ghost of his former business partner Jacob Marley and the spirits of Christmas Past, Present and Yet to Come. After their visits, Scrooge is transformed into a kinder, gentler man. (more...)
“ | Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another. | ” |
Romans 12:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
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- Pope Benedict XVI – retired prelate of the Catholic Church who served as head of the Church and sovereign of the Vatican City State from 2005 until his resignation.
- Jesuit pope, the first from the Americas, the first from the Southern Hemisphere, and the first pope from outside Europe since the Syrian Gregory III, who reigned in the 8th century.
- Dolly Parton – an American singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer, actress, author, businesswoman, and humanitarian, known primarily for her work in country music.
Quotations related to Dolly Parton at Wikiquote: "I just depend on a lot of prayer and meditation. I believe that without God I am nobody, but that with God, I can do anything."
- ...that the All Saints Church, Henley Brook, the oldest church in Western Australia, held its first service almost eight years before it was consecrated?
- ...that the Virgin Mary?
- ...that the parish church of James Parkinson, after whom Parkinson's disease is named, was St Leonard's, Shoreditch, a church just outside the City of London and most famous for being one of the churches mentioned in the nursery rhyme "Oranges and Lemons"?
- ...that the Grand Patriarch of Constantinople?
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“ | May He grant you according to your heart’s desire, And fulfill all your purpose. | ” |
Psalm 20:4 New King James Version (NKJV)
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