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The result was delete both. North America1000 00:39, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One Shot (Serbian band)

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No results in a Google search. No presence in Serbian or Serbo-Croat Wiki. The only citations are to (1) their FB page and (2) their record label Bassivity Music, whose page does not mention them. All non-trivial links are redlinks. Narky Blert (talk) 23:45, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page because this album by this band also fails

WP:MUSIC

One Shot Mixtape (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Narky Blert (talk) 00:02, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Both pages for lacking any kind of notability. Meatsgains (talk) 00:39, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Charles & Eddie. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:18, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Pettigrew

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This really doesn't require an article on its own. The stuff on Charles & Eddie should suffice. Launchballer 23:27, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge to Charles & Eddie. A merge seems so obvious I have to wonder why AfD was even considered. --Michig (talk) 06:28, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to seek a second opinion first.--Launchballer 06:30, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. First, to dismiss several off-point opinions: The sanctions violation is not grounds for deletion by itself because

WP:ARBPIA3
's remedy reads "This prohibition may be enforced by reverts, page protections, blocks, the use of pending changes, and appropriate edit filters" - i.e., not by deletion, so I can't follow Epson Salts's "delete" opinion and delete this as an arbitration enforcement action. Peterkingiron's "keep" is just insubstantial.

The remaining opinions are divided about whether this is either an unsourced hoax or a notable topic of discussion in geopolitics. Sadly, editors divide largely along predictable lines, insofar as I recognize the usernames. That being said, Nishidani's sources show convincingly, and so far uncontestedly, that this idea, associated with one Mr. Yinon, has been the topic of substantial discussion in reliable sources. This makes many of the earlier "delete" opinions less convincing - but it does not render them obsolete, as their contention that the current content is of poor quality and based on at best questionable sources is, in turn, not substantially contested.

So, while we don't have formal consensus on the "delete"/"keep" question, I consider this discussion to have established that there is a good case to be made for covering this topic in some shape or form, but that the current content urgently needs cleanup and that a later renomination for deletion might be successful if editors don't address this problem.  Sandstein  10:18, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yinon Plan

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In it's current for it's libelous, because there is no actual fact Oded Yinon ever existed and this looks like modern version of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 21:57, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have made some changes to remove any libelous element and make it more about the article than the person. However, it should be noted that the author self-identifies as Oded Yinon in a respected journal which no-one has challenged. If it were a pseudonym, then it is still OK to call it the Yinon Plan, but we would remain in the dark about who it is. If is is a pseudonym, then clearly we are no longer talking about a living person but a fictitious one and you cannot libel an non-person! If it is a pseudonym, it does not alter the fact that this article has been published in a genuine journal and deleting it would mean that Wikipedia was missing information on something that truly exists which would make it less of an encyclopedia (albeit by just 1 small article).
I have also changed the reference to the Protocols and it is clear that it is not a modern version of it. Firstly, the article has been categorically published in a real journal which no-one disputes. Secondly, my article does not claim it is an official policy but that the article has been written, and that there are those who see that the events in the middle east since 1982 could be following this plan either by coincidence and opportunism or deliberately. I do not make a judgement about this as it is and will always be purely speculative.
I have also taken out some repetition and added a section with a summary of the actions set out in the plan which makes it easier for others to add more details there if they want to.
I strongly believe this article adds something that is missing on Wikipedia and would be hugely disappointed if the page were deleted. Martyn.Preller (talk) 16:40, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The editor who created this article and is practically the only contributor to it is not allowed to edit anything related to the Arab-Israeli conflict, per
    WP:ARBPIA3. This may even qualify for speedy deletion because of that, but I am not versed enough in speedy deletion policy to say for sure. Epson Salts (talk) 18:33, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep If, as
    World Zionist Organisation. It was translated into English by Israel Shahak, published by the Association of Arab-American University Graduates, and was available on Amazon.[1] I have a copy on my shelves. The subject is notable, and at the time of its publication (1982) was widely discussed in the context of Israel's attack on Lebanon. Many books cited the plan, and Shahak's translation. This is a valid and important topic, it is a significant oversight that an article did not previously exist, and we should certainly keep it regardless of who initially created the article. RolandR (talk) 22:58, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Comment This book (p94) appears to be a reliable source by an author who has seen the original and checked up on "Oded Yinon". He is described as a "senior Israeli Foreign Affairs Official and journalist for the Jerusalem Post". He also published an academic article in the same year (which provides no more personal information about him). The reasons for proposing deletion are not valid, but the article is very poor at the moment and I'd like to see suggestions for improving it before voting. Zerotalk 00:16, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I am changing my vote from noncommittal to delete with some reluctance, as most of the delete arguments presented on this page are unconvincing. To mention some: (1) Oded Yinon never existed (dirt easy to disprove), (2) Yinon's article never existed (likewise false), (3) Yinon's article is antisemitic (huh?), (4) our article is antisemitic (so fix it), (5) Yinon was non-notable (irrelevant — many important works even have unknown authors), (6) Shahak was <insert favorite nasty words> (the old shoot-the-messenger technique, nah). Having read several other of Yinon's articles, I don't have the least doubt that he wrote much as in Shahak's translation; it would have been perfectly in character. So here is why I am voting to delete: Yinon's article's only lasting notability is that it is presented as some sort of official blueprint for Israeli policy, but nobody has come up with a reliable source that Yinon had any influence on policy. As far as we can show with reliable sources, it was just some ephemeral article appearing in a magazine. Nor do I see enough sources to sustain a narrative about the reception and reaction to the article. I could change my mind if someone came up with a better source than I've seen so far. Zerotalk 12:40, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment What is the argument for deletion here?
    WP:ARBPIA3
    , but according to that page it is supposed to be enforced by "reverts, page protections, blocks, the use of pending changes, and appropriate edit filters", not page deletions (or, to put it less legalistically – the ARBCOM's intention appears to be to prevent new editors from making further edits, rather than removing their good-faith contributions after the fact).
It seems to me that if this is a modern-day version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, then it's probably notable and something we should cover appropriately (i.e. in line with
WP:FRINGE). From some quick research it looks like it is indeed widely cited by anti-Zionists/conspiracists, but I'm hesitant to commit to a keep !vote on an area I don't know much about. Joe Roe (talk) 12:24, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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So, you think Arbcom's intent was to prevent such users from adding any new material (good faith or not) in existing articles, but it was fine with letting them create new articles? I'm sorry, but that sounds like wikilawyering of the worst kind, that doesn't make any sense. But I'll ask for clarification. Epson Salts (talk) 14:51, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, I think ARBCOM perhaps did not foresee deleting decent content purely because it was created by a new editor. I'm willing to be convinced this particular article isn't decent or salvageable. But I don't think your accusation of "wikilawyering of the worst kind" is particularly warranted, given that I've abstained from !voting and explicitly said I wasn't sure about any of it. Please remember that AfD is a venue for discussion,
not a battleground. Joe Roe (talk) 16:32, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The article is still not supported by any reliable sources. For example, statements like this "the ideas set out in this article were largely taken by successive Israeli governments since 1982" are quite bold and require verifiable source. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:16, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Quite true, but again an argument for cleanup rather than deletion. I'd invite you to either source or remove the statement you've identified as problematic. Joe Roe (talk) 16:32, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • source # 1. globalresearch.ca the website of Canadian conspiracy theorist Michel Chossudovsky
  • # 2.Conspiracy Watch, a website with which I am not familiar
  • # 3. Hani Ramadan a radical Islamist
  • # 4. Roger Garaudy a notorious Holocaust denier
  • # 5. self-sorurced to Israel Shahak
  • # 6. a purported copy of this purported plan by the conspiracy theorist who brought you source # 1.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as an antiIsrael hoax hoax. I have tagged this page as a hoax. Zero reliable sources have been found for the existence of this alleged article, none are on the page. The sources on the page are conspiracy theorists and notorious anti-Semites and anti-Israel activists.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:56, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I removed your tag. The article is not a hoax. Above I posted a reliable source that gives the full citation including the Hebrew title. There was also at least one review in an academic journal. The aspect of Yinon's article that historians can argue about is the extent to which it matched Israeli policy rather that being just one journalist's opinion. There is no reason at all to believe that the article didn't exist. I found several later articles of Yinon in the Jerusalem Post that show a consistent attitude, though nothing so wide-ranging as this. So far I see nothing to convince me to change my non-vote here. Zerotalk 00:10, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I also found a letter of Oded Yinon in Commentary (Dec 1986) which is entirely consistent. After calling the "territory-for-peace" concept a "folly" and a "myth" that is "now dead", he ends mysteriously with "In the coming years, however, we are going to see a totally different Israeli policy..." (ellipsis in original). Zerotalk 02:34, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
30 September 2016 (UTC)Card1&Daf=2 Here is proof that the article existed. Zerotalk 08:54, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Although this is not the right forum, I'll also note that if you want to know what Shahak wrote about anything you have to read his words and not trust the reviews written by his enemies. While Cohn might want us to think that Shahak said that Jews worship Satan, what Shahak actually wrote is that the prayer is intended to confuse Satan so that he is distracted from his evil ways for a moment. I have no idea whether this has any basis in fact, but I do know that the idea of confusing Satan occurs in many religions. Zerotalk 00:59, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note that Werner Cohn cites the Satan comment as an exact quotation from Shahak's book.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:34, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but Cohn removed the remainder of the sentence, which is "who likes Jewish prayers and ritual acts so much that when he is offered a few of them it keeps him busy for a while and he forgets to pester the divine Daughter". He is discussing a kabbalistic interpretation and by "daughter" he refers to this. Zerotalk 00:43, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In other words, you admit that Shahak did write that "both before and after a meal, a pious Jew.... is worshiping Satan..." but Shakak qualifies this by stipulating that such worship effectively appeases Satan. This is a falsehood, an anti-Semitic falsehood.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It may indeed be a hoax in the sense that Shahak's misleading mis-translations and malicious, often bizarre, misinterpretations of Hebrew texts are described as falsehoods or as libel by RS. At most, this was a minor flurry created by an unreliable man notorious for his hatred of Israel and Judaism.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:06, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note that no one appears to have taken the trouble to make a second (that is, a reliable) translation of this allegedly notable article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:09, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as a
    We are not a soapbox. Bearian (talk) 20:49, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
    ]
Congratulations on learning how to use wikilinks. Zerotalk 00:50, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Technically, as Epson Salts argued, this could be deleted since the editor, in good faith, brokeARBPIA500#30. There is, in short, a formal flaw. The rest of the objections here are neither here nor there, except for Zero's point that it was ephemeral. Well, it apparently has had an impact throughout the Arab world, though at the time largely in Lebanon, and a good many publications cite it and comment on various aspects in the context of Israeli and neocon policy debates as they later developed. E.M. Gregory has created large numbers of articles on terror events, by showing they are mentioned over a week or a month and thus satisfy multiple sourcing and notability. By that criterion, he should vote for its retention, to be coherent policy wise. This article has been mentioned for three decades in numerous sources, eg.

In terms of pure policy, it probably should be deleted per Epson Salts. In terms of the fact that it has reverberations, being cited at the time by the Wall Street Journal, being echoed by Joseph Kraft, perhaps reflecting or influencing Ariel Sharon's approach to the region, and references to it perdures in the scholarly literature, I agree with Roland's estimation that we need an article on it. Nishidani (talk) 17:09, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I don't think it is practical to delete the article per
    WP:ARBPIA3#50/300
    , because the topic it self is notable and someone will just recreate the article. I assume the creator now understands that he can no longer edit this article until he reaches the 30/500 requirement. One might say, that this is not a complete violation, beucase he only mainly translated the article
With that said, I think the current state of the article is awfull. The article was translated from the French Wikipedia, but there are some problems with the French article. As it seems, the French article was created by an IP user, but expanded by an alledged pro-Palestinian, who wrote many sections, with no sources, except for one source he added, referring to an anti-Zionist radical Islamist preacher in Switzerland. The unsourced sections he added seem to have a lot of support for the theory and as mentioned before, mostly unsourced. While sources were added to this article, still there are many unsourced sentences, which seems to display a very strong POV here and makes it look more like an essay rather than an encycloped article. The article should be completely re-written and all of its POV and unsourced content should be removed immidiately.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 22:51, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken. If no one objects, I will rewrite it this afternoon according to a dozen different sources and show how it would look were it wikified. It should only take an hour, and then people can judge whether it's irretrievable or not.Nishidani (talk) 07:05, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:50, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

IEEE Transactions on Emerging Topics in Computational Intelligence

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Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable new journal. Not a single article published yet (first issue expected to be published in 2017!!) Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet

no way of knowing whether this journal will actually come into being or whether it will actually turn out to become "core literature of the subject". Therefore, PROD reason still stands. Hence: Delete. Randykitty (talk) 21:44, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Question. Randykitty, is there any existing IEEE transactions that you would not consider notable? If they all are, and this is like the many others, then it's a reasonable induction that doesn't require guesswork. I suppose it might get renamed, but if so we can change the title. DGG ( talk ) 00:58, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I don't know. I haven't gone through our category of IEEE journals (nor do I know that we actually have articles on each and every IEEE journal. However, even assuming that every IEEE journal published up till now has become notable, that is not a guarantee that this will become notable, too. Likely, sure. Certain? No. The argument that this one is notable because other journals of the same publisher are notable is a prime case of
    WP:INHERITED. The journal doesn't even exist yet! --Randykitty (talk) 04:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete  In Wikipedia's voice, we learn here that this journal is "opening doors to a plethora of exciting opportunities".  At Wikipedia, we don't have to guess about the future, we can wait for it.  Given that there are no sources, this is a worthless article, that must be rewritten once sources are available, so there is nothing lost by deletion.  There is even a BLP problem by referring to a living person without an inline citation.  Fails
    WP:DEL14 for what Wikipedia is not.  Unscintillating (talk) 02:31, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. —SpacemanSpiff 06:40, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rape of a live-in partner

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Basically a rehash of a newspaper article. A sad story but

WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. Yintan  21:16, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Retain It is strange that (1) the parents of a minor girl allow her to stay away from home for a year, with or without knowing that she is having a live in relationship . (2) The girl endures such trouble for one year before deciding to return home. It is a strange phenomenon considering Indian social norms, and hence these events do possess the requisite notability for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Since police and POCSO are roped in, the outcome of the case will give insight into the changes occuring in Indian society. So this article's value to the enclopedia's readers is more than the value of a story in a tabloid newspaper. It is premature to say whether further publicity will emerge to indicate how the case was resolved. There is only one source for the events related in this article, but Deccan Chronicle is a reputed newspaper and less likely to publish false news. Allsfasle (talk) 12:01, 24 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allsfasle (talk • contribs) 11:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Don't see how an ordinary crime should get its own article, and even if it should, then the title needs to be changed. AlphaBetaGammaDeltaEpsilonZeta 13:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:19, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Eta Phi Zeta (sorority)

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While I'm usually reluctant to delete articles about fraternities or sororities that exist at multiple universities, this article has zero sources, and I can't find any reliable independent sources myself, so it's not clear that the subject is considered notable under

WP:ORG. I have taken into consideration the fact that this sorority is active only in Puerto Rico and have searched for sources using the search term "sororidad" in place of "sorority" along with "Eta Phi Zeta", but I have still only found references in social media at best. Metropolitan90 (talk) 21:15, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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    ORG). I couldn't find anything, even trivial coverage in questionable sources (discounting unquestionably unreliable social media sources). The closest I came up with was a document commemorating the fortieth anniversary of a Eta Phi Zeta in North Carolina, but that appears to be unrelated. Rebbing 20:54, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to

non-admin closure) Lourdes 01:38, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Chasmology

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As I already said elsewhere [5] unlike e.g. endocrinology, which is a vast and ramified field in which work hundreds of thousands of researchers and specialist practitioners, "chasmology" is a neologism, coined by this guy Walusinski, not in the OED and producing ten (count 'em -- ten!) hits on Gscholar [6] -- one of which is a typo. There's no recognized "science of yawning", and absolutely nothing in this article that wouldn't be completely at home in the

yawning article. EEng 20:38, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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    yawning; neologism. Jytdog (talk) 23:58, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was already deleted by Jimfbleak. Discussion is now moot. Deor (talk) 16:11, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Aifan Shahran

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Article on a nonnotable 17-year-old person, apparently an autobiography. I tagged for an A7 speedy deletion, but the tag was removed by an IP, who may well be the article's creator (and subject). Deor (talk) 18:41, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. North America1000 00:44, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Glam India 2016

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Delete. Poorly sourced article about this year's running of a beauty pageant of unclear notability; there isn't even an main overview article about the pageant to justify separate articles about each annual iteration of it yet. And for referencing, what we have here is a Facebook post, the

WP:NEVENT, is required for an article to become earned. Bearcat (talk) 17:01, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge to Sustainable Development Goals. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:36, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ending poverty in all its forms everywhere

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Because this goal is already well explained on the Sustainable Development Goals page already and we don't need to create a separate page for each one of the goals, also the title is unwieldy, so due to these factors, i recommend this article for deletion. --RuleTheWiki (talk) 16:50, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • The more common formulation of this goal uses "end" rather than "ending":
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  • Merge to
    WP:PROMOTION, however wholly commendable the cause. Oh, and by the way, Ending poverty would in any case be a more appropriate title, eliminating the tautological repetitions – eliminating something necessarily requires that it be removed in all its forms, everywhere (otherwise it wouldn't be eliminated). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 23:52, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Done. --RuleTheWiki (talk) 08:37, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge - it's
    already covered, yet additional sources and notes could improve the article. Bearian (talk) 20:53, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Userfy. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:34, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Book (film)

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This is premature. The film is in production (though it's not clear in which state exactly) and there are simply no references discussing it. Also note that the username of the creator suggests a possible conflict of interest. Finally, it's not clear if the film's title is "The Book" or "The Black Book". Pichpich (talk) 16:56, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Question... I literally started working on this 5 to 6 minutes before you flagged it. The Film title is the Black Book, however there is a redirect for that to an earlier film and as I am new and not sure how to put that change up, modified things so I can still move forward. As for the premature nature of the article, we are already filming and are close to finishing. I have seen several other films in progress on here. I didn't realize, with the amount of Personal bio pages on here that it would be a conflict of interest. Topherchambers (talk) 16:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Topherjchambers (talk • contribs) [reply]

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The result was speedy delete. self-written vanity page, promotional and nn Jimfbleak (talk) 05:45, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Harish pandey

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Doesn't have the depth of coverage to meet

WP:BIO. All references have merely a passing mention of him; he is not the subject of any. Drm310 (talk) 16:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 07:45, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mohit Ul Alam

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Non notable. Sources are very very poor, which includes blogs, and personal website. Mar11 (talk) 18:02, 7 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:33, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

JM Family Enterprises

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No apparent notability. No references. Tagged since 2014 for multiple issues. Nowa (talk) 15:48, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Speedy Delete as this is advertising in that it begins with advertising its services, going to PR business awards and then finally listing everything else about the company's business, none of that is an article....it's an advertising business listing. SwisterTwister talk 19:49, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or add references from reliable and independent media. As it currently contains no references, there is no evidence of notability provided.Newtonslaw40 (talk) 13:27, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 23:09, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Empires (video game)

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Non-notable mod with no substantive independent sourcing, by non-notable modder. Guy (Help!) 15:46, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete -- no indications of notability or significance. The above link is not RS. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:03, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Unless author or editors can add sources ASAP from reliable / independent media (ideally national/international) to support notability, article should be deleted as no support for notability whatsoever. I've completed a quick google search, and nothing of note turns up that might support notability. Newtonslaw40 (talk) 16:05, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:13, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ramsay Wood

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Flowery

original synthesis. duffbeerforme (talk) 09:48, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep - Per
    WP:NEXIST. Google News does in fact pop up sources, per David Gerard, and Google Scholar does deem to cite him, or even discuss him, which is more than enough to establish notability. Fieari (talk) 00:26, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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That is a complete misrepresentation of
WP:GOOGLEHITS. "Google News does in fact pop up sources". What sources? "Google Scholar does deem to cite him". Um no. It does list some articles/books. The most cited of these hits a huge 6. "or even discuss him". Where does it discuss him (or anyone). duffbeerforme (talk) 12:00, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The holdings does suggest he is notable however I'd suggest some
TNT for all the promo and original research. On Lessing. The person employed to write the books intro is not independent, that and the are both connected through Afghan Relief. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:10, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  09:51, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

XNUMBERS

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The subject does not establishes its notability as required by

WP:N. Codename Lisa (talk) 09:17, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep per
    WP:NEXIST. Google scholar has quite a few references to this software, in that many scholarly works apparently rely on it. That alone would make it notable, and something that a researcher would want to learn more about. Going further, one of the scholarly articles [8] goes in depth about how this software is used and why it is useful... this published peer-reviewed academic paper doesn't just use the software, but is ABOUT the software. This firmly establishes notability. Fieari (talk) 03:45, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Unfortunately, you have been mislead by false positives.
Please take another look at Google Scholar results. Here is a sample that appears in many results (boldface is original):

... F 2 120 12.90 by 38.35 a' DISCUSSION F 7 120 3.19 c 7.56 c xNumbers followed by different
letters are significantly ... XNumbers followed by different letters are significantly Indications
are that factors for resistance to disease that different (P = 0.05). ...

If you read the source, however, you see this:

x Numbers followed by different letters are significantly different (P=0.05)

Google has mistakenly parsed "x Numbers" as "xNumbers". (Sorry.)
Of course you did find one good source, but that alone does not indicate notability.
Best regards,
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Hi Lisa! Thank you for the clarification, although I was actually able to tell the difference in my earlier post. Allow me to clarify-- if you do a google scholar search for "XNUMBERS" excel, you will find a large number of articles that specifically refer to this excel addin package. Either simply using it, or discussing it. Some additional examples, from this search:
Low cost environment for rapid prototyping of control algorithms for mechatronic plants based on Microsoft Office Excel application - A feedback system dynamic response analysis by root locus method using Excel spreadsheet and XNumbers add in package.
The Quantitative Structure–Retention Relationship (QSRR) analysis of some centrally acting antihypertensives and diuretics - Single and multilinear regression models were devel- oped for the dataset by use of the MicrosoftExcel 2000/ Regression Data Analysis and Multi-precision Floating Point Computation for Excel (XNUMBERS.XLA-Ver. 4.7 – 2006)
Design and QSAR study of analogs of α-tocopherol with enhanced antiproliferative activity against human breast adenocarcinoma cells - Single and multivariable linear regression models were developed for the data set by use of the Microsoft-Excel 2000/Regression Data Analysis and Multi-precision Floating Point Computation for Excel (XNUMBERS.XLA-Ver.4.7-2006).
Application of experimental design method in optimization of glucose-based surfactant production process - [6] Volpi L. (2007) XNUMBERS ver. 5.6. Multi-precision Floating Point Computation for Excel.
I know, not all of these are discussing XNUMBERS itself... but the fact that they are using XNUMBERS, and citing XNUMBERS, I believe establishes notability, as someone doing research on any one of these papers (and there are many many more I did not link) would want to know what XNUMBERS is, how reliable it is, how it works, and so forth, in order to aid in verifying the other research. There are sufficient sources for us to be able to accurately write the article, some primary, some secondary, and I firmly believe that notability is established. Fieari (talk) 23:47, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep per Fieari - I think they make a good case for sufficient demonstrable coverage and notability. The screenshots could go, though - that's just padding of no interest. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 20:13, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Pls see below: Original comment: per the sources presented by Fieari; I believe this is borderline, but passable. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I'm sorry but per GNG, significant coverage in reliable secondary sources (independent of the subject) is required. This falls far short of GNG. The references in google scholar only show that the plug in exists (See
    WP:NOTDIR. I would be glad if someone can show me some reliable secondary sources which demonstrate notability, but I have certainly not been able to find them. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 23:08, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comfibook

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Nothing serious or serious to be a part of Wikipedia. Definitely not notable to be here. Light2021 (talk) 15:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus is that the subject does not meet Wikipedia's notability standards. Of note is that cursory source searches demonstrate that iDubbbzTV also does not appear to have received any significant coverage (e.g. Gnews search, Gbooks search, Highbeam search), so a page move to this name is not warranted at this time. North America1000 00:05, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Carter (entertainer)

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BLP of a YouTube content creator. While the YouTube channel iDubbbzTV has a lot of subscribers and views, there is actually very little written about it in reliable sources, and even less about its creator. None of the sources currently in the article mentions his name at all, and they all fall into one of three categories: a) trivial mentions of iDubbbzTV, b) primary sources for iDubbbzTV, or c) sources not mentioning iDubbbzTV or Carter at all. When I searched for more sources per

significant coverage of him. bonadea contributions talk 15:14, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Move to iDubbbzTV or something and remove the BLP content. I think the channel is big enough to warrant an entertainment page, but I fully agree that Carter himself is not independently notable. Jergling (talk) 15:35, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete non-notable YouTube personality.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete It unfortunately does not matter how 'big' a channel is, (even on YouTube itself the subscriber metric is largely considered unreliable,) there really isn't enough evidence of outside notability for edups or his channel to warrant an article at this point. Tpdwkouaa (talk) 15:33, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per
    WP:PROMO; a self-cited vanity page. No indications of notability or significance. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:32, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Move to

WP:RFD Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:32, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Wikipedia article traffic

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Previously, I deleted OR and poorly sourced material in this article. The scant remaining material is unsourced, and also appears to be OR. Better treatments of this topic include

WP:MILE
.

However, the page has averaged 15 views per day over the past three months. Would it be inappropriate to convert it to a disambig page (or redirect) that points to the WP namespace? Should we just delete? Ringbang (talk) 14:33, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Move to
    Wikipedia:Wikipedia article traffic and delete the cross-namespace redirect left behind. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 14:45, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment: Despite being a co-writer of the
    WP:TOP25 and Signpost Traffic Report, and a popular 2013 Special Report on Wikipedia traffic, I never knew this article existed. Some form of it may be appropriate with a Wikipedia-prefix, unless we have sources.--Milowent • hasspoken 23:27, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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    @
    WP:ATJ, we could confirm the stats, add any to the list that are deemed historically relevant, and write blurbs for them. But do we ever redirect from mainspace to WP? —Ringbang (talk) 03:02, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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@
List of online newspaper archives was redirected to Wikipedia:List of online newspaper archives a few years ago.--Milowent • hasspoken 10:16, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Okay, great. If there are no objections, I can take-on that task. —Ringbang (talk) 00:40, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Move as suggested to wikispace. Bearian (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete per

non-admin closure) Optakeover(U)(T)(C) 01:34, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Syed Mohi uddin Ahmad Al- Hasani Wal Hussaini Ajmeri

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Initially tagged this with PROD, but the creator attempted to include a references section that pointed to this source, which I believe does not meet

WP:RS. I'm unable to find any sources other than perhaps unreliable primary sources for the topic. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 14:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. Provided sources are self-published and not reliable. These Indian religious articles are always challenging to evaluate, because of inconsistent English spellings and, frankly, the sheer volume of sources that don't meet the project's reliability standards. That said, I'm pretty confident in saying this fails any notability standard, and may indeed be an outright hoax. Searches for "Mohiuddin Ahmad" reveal a lot of clearly unrelated people. Searches for Sufi "saint by birth" provide plenty about
    Syed Shah Afzal Biabani, the two historical figures to whom that phrase is generally applied, but nothing suggestive of the current topic. Furthermore, additional digging suggests that the content here is, shall we say, extremely similar to the content from the repeatedly-deleted Syed Mohi ud Din Ahmad Jillani. I'm not able to determine if the same editor is responsible for creating both articles, but the two articles are unquestionably related. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 20:55, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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    WP:GNG. --HyperGaruda (talk) 11:36, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Speedy delete as per
    G4. Also I have tagged the article for speedy deletion already. Optakeover(U)(T)(C) 12:45, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 23:08, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

SKP Pro Audio

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Meets neither

WP:ORG. Google finds fewer than 100 instances, all of them product descriptions, "for sale" listings, and problem reports. Largoplazo (talk) 14:08, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete and Salt as this was deleted once before as advertising this month, and this is so blatant, it could be speedied again. None of it is anything else but advertising the company and its services, there's no actual "encyclopedia" information. SwisterTwister talk 19:50, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Unless references supporting notability can be found and added to support the article. The article contains some insightful facts about the company, it's history, etc. But no indication of notability unfortunately. Some grammar issue also need to be addressed should it not be deleted. Newtonslaw40 (talk) 16:16, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 23:08, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

VsTortoise

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This is a

WP:NCORP. -- Lemongirl942 (talk) 13:36, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete As already has been said this is just a small SVN plug-in for a developer framework. No indication of notability. It fails WP:NSOFTWARE and WP:GNG. This tool has/had 0 coverage anywhere, except for a few blogs with install instructions and some download links. It also seems to be still in beta. According to its github page it seems to be abandoned since January 2015. It has been created by a single-purpose account. It should therefore be deleted. Dead Mary (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - not even worth a redirect, as Dead Mary notes - David Gerard (talk) 12:38, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - don't see any notability in the article. AlphaBetaGammaDeltaEpsilonZeta 13:46, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - yup, not close to notability, nothing of substance to merge. W Nowicki (talk) 22:55, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:24, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

JGI Group

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WP:CORP: parent company of a notable university does not inherit notability. No independent sources given; Google search only turns up sources covering JGI Group in reference to Jain University. Separate article not warranted. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:07, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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just for the sake of bureaucracy, and that's not a good enough reason to do most things. In fact in most cases it's a bad reason to do anything. Respectfully, I think it's best to let this run its course, as much of a mess as it is. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:20, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Well, someone should have notified you long before. It appears like you are not proposing an article for deletion at articles for deletion venue. While an afd can be closed as non-consensus due to lack of participation (as it seems to be the case here); if you have left a message on talk page and no one showed up, you could still go ahead and do a
bold
redirect/merge. It could have been turned into a redirect by now had you followed the proper procedure. Bureaucratic methods tend to make simpler things complex, I was suggesting otherwise.
You do not set a course of action for Afd. It is predetermined, i.e. to evaluate notability, and one has to argue either against or in support of it (it mostly results in either keep or delete. Sometimes middle path is adopted as redirect or merge but I believe that was never a purpose of afd). The big red notice is not really an ideal method to attract attention of interested editors.
An individual notable subject can have more than one articles, and two or more subjects notable in themselves (but closely related) could have only one. There is a sharp difference between these two (afd and redirect/merge) discussion types and are not really the same. It is all right if you do not want to withdraw, but you must struck your double !vote. And yes, if you plan on continuing this discussion, move it to either yours or mine or this afd's talk page.
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You are being unexpectedly pedantic, and I admit that your latest comment confuses me, but since it does not seem to be a comment on this topic but merely trying to lecture me again, I'll assume that it's of no consequence. But do not accuse me of double-!voting again. I have explained my rationale both generally and to you directly; no double-!vote has occurred. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:21, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn. There doesn't seem to be any interest in discussing this topic, and this is attracting an unexpected level of drama of the "you're doing things differently and I don't like it" variety, and that rarely ends without butthurt and even more rarely results in any benefit to the encyclopedia. Thus, I'm out. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:24, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was No consensus. I cannot see any other outcome for this discussion, which has already been open for 6 weeks (!). I will note that those users arguing for keeping this have said that the problems with original research can be fixed; therefore, if these problems prove intractable, the

WP:TNT argument will be more persuasive. Vanamonde (talk) 04:32, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Timeline of popular Internet services

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Non-neutral by definition. damiens.rf 18:54, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • As an indication of how non-neutral this is I note that Baidu, which must be either the most popular Internet service or very close to being so, doesn't even get a mention. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 20:40, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • ? This is Wikipedia. It's not a static document. If something is missing, add it. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:39, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Note that I didn't preface my comment with a bolded "delete", because I wasn't offering this as a reason for deletion. It was more shorthand for a sense that the content of the article doesn't match the title, so if this is kept a decision needs to be made about whether it should be edited so that the content matches the title, which would involve adding stuff about extremely popular services such as Baidu and Yandex, or whether it should be renamed to a title that reflects the content, something like Timeline of popular Internet services in anglophone countries. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 10:28, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • @86.17.222.157: These services were simply missing until now. Crucial information is missing on many articles so please just go ahead and add it. If you're asking for a reason why they've been missing until now it's probably because most of the page's editors are from anglophone countries. --Fixuture (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment - Not quite sure I understand the nomination. Are you saying that if it were renamed to be e.g. Timeline of websites in Alexa's top 100, it would be a workable list? In other words, I presume the problem is the "popular" part? Thing is -- and this is another aspect to this discussion -- there's already a timeline like this built into History of the Internet as "Examples of popular Internet services". So I guess the first question is whether that's problematic (I suspect there's a reasonable way to set inclusion criteria), and second is whether it should have its own stand-alone timeline. I'm not sure. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:39, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as OR and unclear criteria for inclusion -- i.e. who determines which service was popular? Besides, History of the Internet already provides a similar timeline, so this is redundant. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:07, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - please create a new talk page entry about establishing specific inclusion criteria if you think that's needed here instead of an AfD: notability of the topic and public interest is pretty high - there's no reason to delete the article. --Fixuture (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Fixuture: Not to try to change your mind, but since it's relevant to the deletion discussion, how would you work the criteria for inclusion? (I.e. what's "popular"?) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:22, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Rhododendrites: That would be the matter of that talk page entry - I'd suggest something like "Internet services with over 20 million monthly (or registered?) users" (at one point in their lifetime; reliably sourced). --Fixuture (talk) 19:34, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • @
          WP:OR. It would have to be based on reliably sourced definitions of "popular"... and sources don't agree on that sort of thing. That's why I floated the idea of reframing it in more specific terms (I used Alexa, but anything with a clear bar that doesn't require OR would work). I've not yet looked to see what they used in the history of the Internet article... — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:38, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply
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        • Update: Oh, hm. From the looks of it, there was no real discussion about that outline. It was added here in 2011, a few entries were added between then and 2013, when it was split off to Template:Internet history timeline. Damiens.rf tagged it as pov yesterday, but otherwise I'm not seeing much by way of discussion, so who knows. As an aside, Damiens, part of the usage guidelines for the pov template requires opening a discussion section the tag points to. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:51, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. I agree that this is inherently original research. Who defines what's popular? How do you decide whether it should be restricted to the Alexa top 10 or 50 or 100? If all aspects of original research were removed, it would end up being a duplication of
    history of the internet, as above. I just don't see any way for this to survive. Either way, it's breaking policy. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:52, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Who defines what's popular? How do you decide whether it should be restricted to the Alexa top 10 or 50 or 100?
Per discussion. Just not here but on the page's talk page.
If all aspects of original research were removed, it would end up being a duplication of
history of the internet
How that? The history of the Internet is a history of the infrastructure, technology and general usage and not the specific content and services on it.
I just don't see any way for this to survive. Either way, it's breaking policy.
I don't agree on that. At worst case the name of the article would need to be changed. But imo that's nitpicking / inconvenient.
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  • Delete per
    WP:NOT#OR. This is patent original research. There is no way to decide what is "popular" without a bit lot of OR. I see this list as totally unencyclopeadic and considering that the information already exists in other forms, I will go with a delete. No point in wasting time to find out a criteria for inclusion. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 13:01, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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@Lemongirl942: There are multiple ways how "popular" can be bound to specific inclusion criteria for this article. Also one could rename the article, removing "popular". In what other forms does this information exist in the extent & openness of the article in subject? I think a timeline of the content & services on the Internet is very useful and important info.--Fixuture (talk) 19:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Popular" is an unencyclopaedic word with no clear definitions. If someone can find a scholarly definition of "popular Internet service" I would be glad to keep the article. But I doubt anyone has ever found something like that in the entire history of Wikipedia and . If we define it ourselves, it will be OR. Basically I don't see any way this is useful for an encyclopaedia. There is no way to solve this by "editing" either. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:11, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Per my comments above. I was looking for an indication this could be salvaged, but nobody has suggested a way to do so here or on the talk page where I opened a discussion. I'll open the same discussion at history of the Internet and would not be opposed to it being spun off in the future if an appropriate inclusion criteria can be determined. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:59, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Rhododendrites: Well it hasn't been long since you started the discussion. Also the suggestions you made there seem good enough - why not use one or multiple of them? I'm wondering why you'd vote delete despite having made useful suggestions for the inclusion criteria. --Fixuture (talk) 19:13, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Fixuture: The point of that thread is to figure out what the list was to be based on (after the discussion was initially closed as no consensus). I didn't have a good answer -- all of those I listed are problematic in various ways -- and nobody suggested something better. I've now opened a similar thread at Talk:History of the Internet. If it can be worked out for the purpose of that sidebar, then I wouldn't be opposed to a stand-aloen article in the future. For now, however, we have a pile of OR and no inclusion criteria. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 19:18, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Delete, or maybe
    WP:TNT. I think the concept is a valid basis for an article, and History of the Internet is such a broad topic (and long article), this could easily be spun off as a useful an interesting article on its own. But, as several people have pointed out, the inclusion criteria are are ill-defined. For example, the current article leaves one with the impression that Coursera, Vine, and Tinder were the three most important things to happen on the Internet in 2012. Were they? I don't know, but I'd like to have some better way to determine that. -- RoySmith (talk) 16:04, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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@RoySmith:
For example, the current article leaves one with the impression that Coursera, Vine, and Tinder were the three most important things to happen on the Internet in 2012. Were they?
Why do they leave you with that impression? The article is just about new services not about everything happening on the Internet. The list is incomplete but more or less these are the three most important new services/websites that were initiated in 2012.
But, as several people have pointed out, the inclusion criteria are are ill-defined.
As said earlier, the inclusion criteria can still get defined better on the talk page.
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  • Keep - Perhaps it would be better to change the title of the article, and refocus. It is more a collection of services that acquired most of the market share in their own area, and that has been changing over time. Neutrality of this topic is going to be always an issue, but it is nevertheless a useful article. If necessary discuss inclusion criteria on the talk page.--Micru (talk) 10:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have no objection to changing the title and being more specific in its criteria. In order to successfully do that we should close the AFD as keep so enthusiastic editors can discuss and edit.--Paul McDonald (talk) 13:57, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • You (and some other editors above) are basically saying "Keep, as long as we change its title and its contents.". Mindblowing.--damiens.rf 14:13, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
        • Not exactly. I'm saying to keep it first. Then if consensus wants to change the title that's one avenue to a final solution.--19:59, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Keep - Even if it is OR, it is still useful information. Maybe the title should be changed to Timeline of Internet services so that way we don't get arguments about what is "popular". Swordman97 talk to me 16:31, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – don't we have enough of these already? Between the Timeline of web browsers, List of Internet pioneers, more specific articles like List of virtual communities with more than 100 million users, History of blogging, and history of webcomics, and categories like Category:Internet properties by year of establishment‎, I'd want to see a pretty well-established list here or none at all. The topic ("internet services") is incredibly general. This timeline includes technologies, websites, and web applications, without distinction. "Popular" is even vaguer. Was Keenspot popular enough to be listed? The service was influential and used by many people, but I think everyone here would agree it doesn't even come near the likes of Yahoo!. How about Outlook.com? Used by millions, but so are plenty of other services. Honestly, I don't think this list can serve any purpose other than being a popularity contest. Can I add Marktplaats.nl? It's used by millions of people, so that counts as popular, right? ~Mable (chat) 19:44, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment @Maplestrip: None of these captures what this list is about. Category:Internet properties by year of establishment‎ includes every Internet property and not just the popular ones and the other articles are about specific types of Internet services. It's supposed to be that general - especially as there are new types of Internet websites/services/... getting established (innovation and novelties per year is a main point of the article). For the definition of "popular" please see the previous discussion - let's decide upon inclusion criteria on its talk page. Keenspot seems to have been several orders of magnitude beneath the other items of the list in terms of popularity - it may have been used by many people interested in webcomics which aren't that many. I think this list has been going fine until now so why should that change just now...and there is the issue of the missing inclusion criteria - but that's not a point for deleting the article but instead requires us to simply define some on the talk page. --Fixuture (talk) 20:15, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm not just worried about the lack of inclusion criteria, however, but I am also audited about the actual scope. Are there even sources specifically listing or discussing major "Internet services"? If so, what sources would list web browsers and websites side-by-side? The vagueness of "internet services" worries me a lot. I would prefer a
        like this?). These kind of things are much better defined and result in a meaningful collection of items. ~Mable (chat) 21:27, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply
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        • I'm not concerned. Bing News Search turns up many listings.--Paul McDonald (talk) 21:43, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
          • Huh, seems like Bing only gives regional articles, so all I see is unrelated Dutch stuff. A Google News search using the same query also doesn't give anything useful. Could you link some of these articles directly? ~Mable (chat) 09:03, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:28, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The show broadway group

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I'm skeptical of the validity of this article. The group won "The Music Award": What is "The Music Award"? It was "nominated" for best jazz single at the Akademia Music Awards: Artists "nominate" themselves for these "awards"—for a fee—according to this. And these "awards", which seem to consist of their hosting a web page for your group, are given out every month. I guess it's what you'd call a vanity award service.

"TOP 20 world's best jazz musicians", according to whom? The author wrote "a 16th place in world ranking"; the source, from which these several sentences were otherwise copied, says 62nd. Either way, world ranking according to whom? And the group certainly doesn't pass

WP:GNG. No applicable coverage. Largoplazo (talk) 11:25, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete, Largos rationale is sound--Jac16888 Talk 19:24, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: fails WP:GNG and WP:NBAND. I smell a huge amount of
    WP:PROMO here: the references in the text are to "The Akademia" - this is the organization that gave the group their "music award", and which states on its home page that its business is helping promote new acts, so it's a marketing agency. The one in-line reference is to a blog site for "mrgorbunoff": a bit of googling brings up Igor Gorbunoff, whose social media accounts are full of references and links promoting the Akademia and the Show Broadway Group, and almost nothing else. Oh, and "Mrgorbunoff" just happens to be the username of the editor who created the article. Richard3120 (talk) 22:25, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. NeilN talk to me 01:41, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Trump plant theory

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This page is the lone survivor of the three articles dedicated to "conspiracy theories" of the 2016 U.S. presidential elections. Similar to

WP:NOTNEWS. Content very similar to what's in the article was deleted as part of the Conspiracy theories article, and I don't see a reason to keep it in a stand-alone article. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:59, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep At first, I thought I agreed with the notion that "if the content isn't on the campaign page, then it should't have it's own article." If it's not notable enough for the campaign's page, why should it get it's own page? But with as many reliable sources (BBC, The Washington Post, CNN, etc.) cited, and my remembrance of this theory being more prominent in the media than the other two mentioned theories that have already been deleted, I don't believe this specific theory should be wiped from Wiki entirely. Comatmebro User talk:Comatmebro 03:24, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was just pointing out that the sources indicate typical "news cycle driven" chatter, rather in-depth academic analysis. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:06, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- anybody really thinks that Trump is a plant? :-) Or was that sarcasm? K.e.coffman (talk) 05:07, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@K.e.coffman: --- never doubt the accuracy of twenty-twenty hindsight :-) Steve Quinn (talk) 06:37, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This conspiracy theory is only interesting in context of the ongoing election. WP:RECENTSIM and WP:NOTNEWS apply. Not an encyclopedic subject. My very best wishes (talk) 04:57, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete NOTNEWS, RECENTISM, and due the previously mentioned, it fails GNG. Although this "rumor" is quite entertaining, it has not managed to outlast the news cycles that originally carried it. Also, as mentioned above, it was never taken seriously and therefore does not demonstrate the durability of other more well known fringe theories. Steve Quinn (talk) 06:26, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Yet another
    WP:FRINGE, semi-jocular "theory." It's very obvious speculation, and we needn't treat every piece of speculation - no matter how intriguing and/or well-covered - to its own article. For instance, the Cruz-Oswald slur (remember that?), the "OMG Clinton wore an earpiece" nonsense, and all of the rest do not need their own articles, even though they've certainly generated sourcing. With every twist and turn of the campaigns, more of this sort of thing will come up. GABgab 00:29, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep – Highly discussed subject, covered in several reliable media sources.
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  • Delete An encyclopedia is not a place for conspiracy theories - such articles are inherently POV by their very existence. Nwlaw63 (talk) 13:09, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Conspiracy theories There's plenty of em. ZN3ukct (talk) 16:56, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, fringe theory at best. Wikipedia is not a newspaper and it is not a tabloid, either. Kierzek (talk) 13:55, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: future generations would be amused to read about this, but most likely only in the context of an article section that discussed all notable kooky theories of this election. Including the theory that Trump is a legitimate candidate for President of the United States of America.--Milowent • hasspoken 23:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)--Milowent • hasspoken 23:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Even if we say something passes GNG (and I'm not necessarily saying that's the case here), that doesn't automatically mean it should have a stand-alone article. There are hundreds of individual aspects of individual campaigns, incidents involving individual candidates, etc. that, taken on their own, could be viewed as notable. But we don't have to take them on their own. Wikipedia is
    WP:WEIGHT/relative significance to the larger topic of which they are a part. It's possible this could be included in a campaign/election-related article, but the existence of sources about an aspect of those subjects that gets a bit of superficial attention in the news doesn't necessitate an article. There's some coverage -- but what's certainly not established is lasting significance outside the campaign/candidacy. I would support deleting the lot of stand-alone "controversy", "conspiracy", etc. articles that have no life outside of 2016 election/campaign/candidacy coverage until after the election, when we can see what has lasting significance. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:55, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to Interstate 93. We have 2 each for merge, redirect or delete. This makes redirect the most consensual option, as it allows to merge any material that has consensus from the history, or conversely to separately RfD the redirect.  Sandstein  09:49, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Methuen rotary reconstruction (2010s)

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Should be merged into I93 Anmccaff (talk) 17:57, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree to merge this into I93. While the notability of the rotary intersection may be contentious, the project itself is noteworthy as a capital outlay, as is its associated political dealings Tylr00 (talk) 15:37, 1 September 2016 (UTC)Tylr00[reply]
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The result was delete. Also salted. Sam Walton (talk) 17:01, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Streetrunner

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Procedural nomination as a rejected

the notability guideline for music producers
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I have no argument for keep/delete, but it's likely worth discussing here. Appable (talk) 06:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect Delete to The Marshall Mathers LP 2 & Salt - The article was created by a paid editor (In all fairness to them they did put a template on the tp stating it) but in my eyes articles should be created by anyone who simply wants to create something ... not by someone paid to get the article up and not by someone who knows the subject, That aside they've gained some notability for producing The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (& the songs for it) but other than that the rest of the sources are Grammy awards/lists (again for working on the album), There's nothing out there that says "Yes this person has done something else that's gained notability", I wonder if it's a BLP1E case but could be entirely wrong on that, Either way they've only got some notability for working on album & that's it ..... So IMHO it's better off redirected deleted & perhaps salted. –Davey2010Talk 12:39, 23 September 2016 (UTC)(Updated: 12:16, 29 September 2016 (UTC))[reply]
  • Keep. (I created the article - I was paid and disclosed that on the talk page). To address the above, Streetrunner is not only notable for producing a track on
    Royce da 5'9". Two albums he has worked on have won Grammy awards. Some of the singles he has produced are pretty big, such as Nicki Minaj's "Roman in Moscow" and Lil Wayne and Big Sean's "My Homies Still" (which went platinum). Simply put, the guy is notable in the hip hop world. There is press from Vibe, XXL, HipHopDX and MTV News. I feel the previous page on Streetrunner was deleted primarily because it was very poorly written, so here I have created one that is sourced and well-written and demonstrates his notability as a hip hop producer.--Bernie44 (talk) 14:11, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete non-notable record producer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:35, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and Salt as this is enough, there is literally nothing else different and nor should there be, since this was deleted a month ago; persistent actions like of clear advertising, is what causes damages and it's unacceptable. SwisterTwister talk 05:59, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete.

SOFTDELETE per low participation herein. North America1000 23:40, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Leo Justi

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No evidence of WP:Notability TheKaphox (talk) 23:16, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to

Lists of Transformers characters.  Sandstein  19:32, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Iguanus

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This article fails to establish notability. The one reception source in the article is too trivial on its own. TTN (talk) 22:30, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: The sources that are there aren't actually that terrible, but they aren't sufficient to support an article. They'd be very useful to help source a list entry or two, though. Josh Milburn (talk) 18:43, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Redirect - Not notable enough to stand on its own, but notable within the fiction. Since the character has appeared in multiple stories, redirecting to
    Lists of Transformers characters will be the best way to help a user find the specific Iguanus they're looking for. Argento Surfer (talk) 16:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The only sourced information is that toys of this character exist. The bulk of it, which is the part I assume you're describing as pertinent, encyclopedic, and useful, is all unsourced plot material. Adding primary sources to this won't help prove notability. I agree that this is information that people may want. I
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I agree here. The information is useful, but the question is if Wikipedia is the correct place for it. Looks too much like
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:26, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Natalia Ghilascu

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Aside from one interview that isn't really quotable, I'm really not seeing anything in the way of significant coverage in independent sources. There are some passing mentions, and then there are websites of organizations, or blurbs written by entities affiliated with the subject, and things of that nature. So as far as I can tell, the subject fails

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The result was keep. (

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Dmitry Kawarga

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Considerably lacking evidence of notability, mostly primary sources, appears to be promotional article created in several languages (the others are about this quality too). Not much on the web (except "Dmitry Kawarga is a mysterious artist, who never appears neither in photos nor on video") and zero GNews. A week at PROD did not turn up any improvement in sourcing. Previously CSDed, then recreated at

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  • Comment: I have filled out the details of the BBC and Süddeutsche Zeitung references which were already there but unclear, and added a Washington Post article as another. However as yet I am undecided as to whether there is enough to meet the rather onerous
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  • Keep -- using the Cyrillic name I was able to locate this rather substantial article in the Russian version of Popular Mechanics magazine. This publication is licensed by English language magazine so appears to be RS: Dmitry Kawarga and biogenic sculpture. There's probably more out there. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:15, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment / Weak Keep -- I feel unqualified to search for and review Russian language sources. I'd be willing to give the benefit of the doubt, given what K.e.coffman found, above, but is there any way we could summon some Russian/English bilinguists to do a better search? I'd prefer if two articles could be found, not just one. Fieari (talk) 06:51, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Here's a bit more in English, where he sometimes appears as Kavarga: Black Beast
  • He also has an entry at the web site of the apparently prestigious Kandinsky Prize: Dmitry Kawarga. He was not a winner though. But this is a by-lined bio sketch.
Kawarga appears to be widely exhibited in Russia. Here's a profile from Erarta, "Russia's largest private museum of contemporary art": link (in English). According to the museum's web site, his works are in a permanent collection there.
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Changing my !vote from "weak keep" to "keep". Thank you for the sources, those are plenty to establish notability. Fieari (talk) 07:43, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, clearly meets
WP:NARTIST with his works included in permanent collections at several substantial museums. I also found consistent coverage in Dialogue of Arts, the publication of the Moscow Museum of Modern Art, which seems to show interest beyond the "Yeltsin sculpture" coverage: link (in Russian). K.e.coffman (talk) 23:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus.

WP:NPASR per low participation herein. North America1000 23:37, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The Blackbirds (Norwegian band)

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Does not seem to have enough media attention, popularity, and Certifications to be considered notable per the notability guidelines in WP:BAND. Wasabi,the,one (talk) 02:07, 9 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was Keep as a week has not suggested anything else (NAC). SwisterTwister talk 00:32, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

John Alagía

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Non-notable living person.

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  • Keep - Reported on in reliable sources. Previous AfD brought up huffington post, for instance, which describes him as "a legend". Google news pops up Guitar Girl Magazine, which confirms 3x Grammy Nominations. Google news goes on to bring up over a hundred mentions in various sources. Most of these mentions are brief, in articles talking about other things, but pretty much every single mention also discusses, at least for a sentence or two, the fact that John Alagia is a notable person for a variety of reasons. On the weight of these numerous references, I will !vote keep. Fieari (talk) 07:04, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Poor sources in this case seem to indicate a lack of freely available news. He's notable in the way film directors are, but there's apparently no IMDB for music producers. He is credited on the WP articles for several famous albums, which is sufficient if those articles are cited. Jergling (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. While
    most producers are not notable, this person seems to make the grade, based on the sources that show he's been nominated for 3 Grammys. Bearian (talk) 20:43, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete.

WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a reason for keeping anything. Given that nobody has indicated that sources indicating notability exist, the delete argument carries the day. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:25, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply
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Bhanot (Brahmin)

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This is a recreation of an article that was deleted via PROD earlier this year. It is still unsourced and still appears to fail

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    WP:GNG. As for Bhanot Rajputs, well, I've struggled to source that over the last few months and suspect I will refer it to AfD also in due course. And just because there are articles about some caste groups does not justify keeping this one. - Sitush (talk) 15:57, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete: I'm not seeing a thing that would hint notability for topic under discussion. It simply fails
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rubika Liyaquat

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Delete. Fails

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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 15:00, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

IWRG Máscara vs. Máscara (August 2016)

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 00:00, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Abadawn

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Not seeing coverage sufficient to pass

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  • Delete Artist has no coverage in third party independent sources (or any at all). Sources in the article are self published or non-RS (and even there its just database entries or a passing mention). He fails WP:GNG, there is nothing on him out there. He generally has low reception, his tracks have only few views in streaming services. He is not aired in a notable station or something related. His albums are self-published. He fails WP:MUSBIO/WP:ENTERTAINER in all points. Article was deleted in the past, but has been recreated with a single purpose account. Should therefore be deleted again, as nothing has changed since the last AFD. Dead Mary (talk) 08:52, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:21, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Shana B. Peterson

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Non-notable person. Brianga (talk) 19:27, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  09:52, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mounif Salem Moussa

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Unsourced BLP, non-notable. KATMAKROFAN (talk) 17:04, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete, pending evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable publications. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 20:02, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and I planned to comment earlier, there's certainly still nothing for WP:AUTHOR or WP:PROF. SwisterTwister talk 23:00, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Worldcat Entry here. Gonna look up more later. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:10, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Given the Worldcat holdings, likely to be a notable author. Many major universities have his books. This is an instance where our own cultural bias prevents us from checkingfurther, butthere is a biography written about him. DGG ( talk ) 03:42, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. North America1000 23:05, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Feeding Fingers

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Fails

WP:COI as well. Hiding T 14:45, 8 September 2016 (UTC) Hiding T 14:45, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete there's a whole cluster of articles on this band which also show to fail notability - David Gerard (talk) 13:39, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Was improved during discussion, making earlier opinions perhaps obsolete.  Sandstein  09:52, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rosoła Street, Warsaw

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Nothing in this article persuades me that this is anyting other than a very dull stretch of tarmac. Wikipedia is not a sreet directory. TheLongTone (talk) 15:49, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete concur with nom, nothing in the article really suggests any notability. MB 21:15, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete per nom and above. There isn't any reason as to why this should be kept, that I can see. Its just a random street in a capital city.

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@Jo-Jo Eumerus:, I don't have the time to do much more ATM, but check the article now. //Halibutt 15:33, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw nomination: article is much improved & imo makes a reasonable case for notability.TheLongTone (talk) 14:20, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in light of above. !Delete vote withdrawn.
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The result was delete. A clear consensus for deletion has arisen in this discussion. North America1000 23:02, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Megan Conte

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Prod removed by an IP with no comment, no changes to article, and virtually no other edit history. As I said in the Prod, playing on a university team is not notable, being the first non-American to score for a particular college team is not notable (and the cited source does not support this), and having played all of one international senior and one international junior game is not notable. Only sources in article are the university team's webpage. No significant coverage of her found in other sources. Fails

WP:GNG. Meters (talk) 01:33, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply
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No offense to the Pirates, but while their fans may be rabid they are at best a regional collegiate sports power, and women's soccer isn't exactly a huge sport there. If we were talking about the first internationally recruited quarterback at Ohio State, I would be much more open to discussing whether that made them notable (and it probably would because I'm guessing there would be significant coverage in many major national publications.) I'm just not convinced in this case. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:38, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, no Wikipedia policy makes that a notable fact in and of itself, if
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Good point. Canada Soccer shows that Canada's full women's team has not played Nigeria in a Tier 1 match since 2011 (Dresden, GER FIFA Women's World Cup). Since Conte is in first year university she is too young to have played on that team. The Canadian U17 team played Nigeria in 2012 (FIFA U-17 Women's World Cup) but even if she were on that team I don't think it would qualify. The Canadian U20 team has not played Nigeria since 2006. http://canadasoccer.com/index.php?t=schedule&genderId=0&seasonKeyword=&tid=all&opponentTeamKeyword=Nigeria&venueKeyword=&month=0&year=All Meters (talk) 02:53, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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