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Is the change to the greatest depth correct? What was wrong with it? Is this a clever vandal? -- Ram-Man


We now list a Norwegian-Greenland Sea as a subsea of the Atlantic, while we already list Greenland Sea and Norwegian Sea as subseas of the Arctic Ocean. I will leave the resolution of this mystery to greater minds than mine. -- Walt Pohl 01:29, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Norwegian-Greenland Sea

I found this reference to "Norwegian-Greenland Sea". As a Norwegian I find myself not objective in this matter so I did not change anything, but doing a quick search on Google seems to indicate that there are quite few links to this, but loads of links to "Norwegian Sea".

Quite a few of the links to "Norwegian Sea" are ads and commercial for cruiseships - but all the same I find this strange. As a seaman I have not heard of "Norwegian-Greenland Sea" before I found it today in Wikipedia.

Would appreciate some more comments on this term.

Suggest 25 possible wiki links and 317 possible backlinks for Atlantic Ocean.

An automated Wikipedia link suggester has some possible wiki link suggestions for the Atlantic_Ocean article:

  • Can link The Atlantic: ...Atlantic and the [[Indian Ocean]] is the 20° east meridian.
    The Atlantic
    is separated from the Arctic Ocean by a line from Greenland...
  • Can link Puerto Rico: ...77 ft). The greatest depth, 8,605 m (28,232 ft), is in the Puerto Rico Trench. The width of the Atlantic varies from [[1 E6 m|2,84...
  • Can link northern Africa: ...E6 m|4,830 km]] (3,000 miles) between the United States and northern Africa....
  • Can link mountain range: ...ottom topography of the Atlantic Ocean is a great submarine mountain range called the [[Mid-Atlantic Ridge]]. It extends from Iceland ... (link to section)
  • Can link great rift valley: ...reaching a maximum width of about 1,600 km (1,000 miles). A great rift valley also extends along the ridge over most of its length. The d... (link to section)
  • Can link manganese nodules: ...upwelling. Authigenic deposits consist of such materials as manganese nodules. They occur where sedimentation proceeds slowly or where cu... (link to section)
  • Can link parts per thousand: ...f the surface waters in the open ocean ranges from 33 to 37 parts per thousand and varies with latitude and season. Although the minimum s... (link to section)
  • Can link sea ice: ...by evaporation, precipitation, river inflow, and melting of sea ice.... (link to section)
  • Can link Surface water: ...tion, precipitation, river inflow, and melting of sea ice. Surface water temperatures, which vary with latitude, current systems, an... (link to section)
  • Can link solar energy: ...ems, and season and reflect the latitudinal distribution of solar energy, range from less than 2° to 29°C (28° to 84° F). Maximum te... (link to section)
  • Can link middle latitudes: ..., and minimum values are found in the polar regions. In the middle latitudes, the area of maximum temperature variations, values may var... (link to section)
  • Can link North Atlantic deep water: ...rmediate water extends to depths of 1,000 m (3,300 ft). The North Atlantic deep water reaches depths of as much as 4,000 m (13,200 ft). The [[Ant... (link to section)
  • Can link counter clockwise: ...rection, whereas water circulation in the South Atlantic is
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  • Can link Ocean currents: ...dest regions corresponding to the areas covered by sea ice. Ocean currents contribute to climatic control by transporting warm and col... (link to section)
  • Can link British Isles: ...e [[Gulf Stream]], for example, warms the atmosphere of the British Isles and northwestern Europe, and the cold water currents contri... (link to section)
  • Can link seafloor spreading: ...ent, [[Pangaea]], were being rafted apart by the process of seafloor spreading. The Atlantic has been extensively explored since the earli... (link to section)
  • Can link Hydrographic Office: ...iversity's Lamont Geological Observatory, and the U.S. Navy Hydrographic Office.... (link to section)
  • Can link oil spills: ...ecause of the threats to the ocean environment presented by oil spills, plastic debris, and the incineration of toxic wastes at se... (link to section)
  • Can link international treaties: ...ebris, and the incineration of toxic wastes at sea, various international treaties exist to reduce some forms of pollution.... (link to section)
  • Can link transatlantic flight: ... two men named [[Alcock and Brown]] made the first non-stop transatlantic flight from [[Newfoundland]] to [[Ireland]].... (link to section)
  • Can link tropical cyclones: ...ed States|US]] '''Coastline:''' 111,866 km '''Climate:''' tropical cyclones ([[hurricane]]s) develop off the coast of Africa near [[Cap... (link to section)
  • Can link sea level: ...in the [[Puerto Rico Trench]] -8,605 m * ''highest point:'' sea level 0 m... (link to section)
  • Can link marine mammals: ...=Natural resources=== [[oil]] and [[gas]] fields, [[fish]], marine mammals ([[seal (mammal)|seal]]s and [[whale]]s), sand and gravel a... (link to section)
  • Can link industrial waste: ...Lake Maracaibo]], [[Mediterranean Sea]], and [[North Sea]]; industrial waste and municipal sewage pollution in Baltic Sea, North Sea, an... (link to section)
  • Can link US Navy: ...n. * See http://oceanographer.navy.mil/warning.html Thanks US Navy Oceanographer... (link to section)

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Coriolis Force

I just noticed it, but the article states that water flows clockwise in the North Atlantic due to the coriolis force. The coriolis force article claims that air is induced to flow counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere. Why is water different? Is either article wrong? -Lommer | talk 02:39, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Air & water are deflected to the right in the northern hemisphere - this gives rise to clockwise gyres seen in the oceans and around high air pressure cells. The counterclockwise flow around a low pressure system is due to being deflected to the right from a straight streamline into the center of a low. That sounds confusing - keep that to the right in mind and study the diagram of flow around a low pressure system in the coriolis discussion. Does that help? Vsmith 23:07, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
That all makes sense, but it would seem to indicate a "high pressure system" in the centre of the ocean. What causes this? -Lommer | talk 02:11, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
OK. Don't think there's a high pressure system there. Let's try it this way, water near the equator is heated more by absorbed radiation and thus expands. This piled up water tends to flow downhill to the north & south. As it begins to flow the coriolis effect deflects it to the right in the northern and to the left in the southern hemispheres aided by the prevailing wind systems. This deflection, along with continents blocking the way, sets up large rotating surface gyres in each ocean basin. This results in west flowing currents both north & south of the equator (with an east flowing counter-current between - but, that just confuses the issue). Confused yet? :-) Vsmith 18:13, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Not totally. What you've said makes sense, but would seem to generate a counter-clockwise flow: east-flowing currents in the south-north-atlantic and west-flowing currents in the north-north-atlantic. This would agree with the coriolis force article, but disagree with this article. I'm just visualizing water flowing due north from the equator, where it's heated, and being deflected to the right... -Lommer | talk 03:41, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Surface Area

There are three (different) values given for the surface area of the Atlantic, two at the top (explained) and another later on - can anyone confirm the (sourced) correct figures, please? Thanks, Ian Cairns 13:12, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Needs to be consistent. Not sure that there is an accurate value considering the rather poorly defined boundaries w/ the Southern (Antarctic) and Indian oceans. Or the Arctic for that matter. The value at the bottom, 76.762 million km², is from the CIA factbook. The one at the top, 41,100,000 square miles or 106,400,000 km², is from US Navy Ocean talk. Both say they include adjacent seas. Both are now sourced :-). The difference may be in the arbitrary boundaries between the Indian & Antarctic? Which do we go with for consistency? I'd vote for the CIA value. Also don't know about the volume value. Vsmith 18:13, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

One explanation for the difference in surface area may be the Southern Ocean which acccording to Wikipedia was adopted officially in 2000. The 60th paralel forms the boundary for the Southern and Atlantic Ocean. If one doesn't recognize this ocena than the coast of Antartica would be the Southern Boundary. I came here looking the boundary dividing atlantic and pacific but it's not here or in the pacific ocean article (at least not as of June 2006). Also, the northern boundary is presented incompletely (nothing between Greenland and North America). If anyone could add these facts to the article that would be a nice improvement. Just to clarify, I'm looking for the merridian or other boundary that separates the pacific from the atlantic in the area between South America and Antartica. Is it the Merridian (somewhere around 65° or is it a line from the tip of Tierra del Feugo and the Pen of Antartica? Or something else entirely?. --Cplot 22:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Alternative Names

Should it be mentioned that the Atlantic is sometimes called the Pond (disambiguation), in the sense of "across the pond"? Martin Rudat(T|@|C) 15:10, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Name meaning

"Of Atlas" or "of Atlantis"? I suspect it's the latter. TCC (talk) (contribs) 02:31, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Or does Atlantis come from Atlantic ? – Beardo 17:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Both come from Atlas. 74.38.35.171 02:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Ocean comes from the Ancient Greek words O Kyanos which mean "the blue", referring to any large body of water because it's looks blue. Ethopia comes from the Greek words Ethi Ops which mean "burnt face" or burnt appearance, used to describe the areas where blacks lived.

Link broken

The http://oceanographer.navy.mil/atlantic.html site is gone (but may be back later at a changed location). I gather that provided a lot of the content for this article. If so, that leaves a hole in the documentation. –

Talk
) 14:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Per your posting, I've done two things:
  • I moved the two oceanographer.navy.mil links to a new "References" sections, because they are references, not simple external links.
  • I've just pointed to archival copies of these page at the Internet Archive.
I hope that helps
 – DLJessup (talk) 18:01, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Great! I didn't want to mess with it right off, as I've previously had nothing to do with this article, and thought I would let the contributors figure out how to handle it. –
Talk
)
18:19, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not sure what information this link had, but I found something | here.--Cplot 23:57, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Failed GA

Lack of sources (three in all). There's a weird "fact sheet" at the end of the History and economy section, which seems out of context - it's more of an introductory data sheet, perhaps it would best be presented in a template on the right in the lead paragraph? Also, the lists "bays, gulfs, and seas" in the lead, and "Ports and harbours" might be better indexed according to continent - it's pretty chaotically presented as is. Poulsen 17:50, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed from "Ports and harbours" section

I just removed the following subsection from the bottom of the "Ports and harbours" section of this article:

Note on transportation

The

Saint Lawrence Seaway
is an important waterway.

True, but I don't see what that has to do with a Wikipedia article on the Atlantic Ocean.

Saint Lawrence Seaway article, I suppose. --Quuxplusone
07:41, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

History and economy - ocean rowing

The Tori Murden entry is a bit spurious here, as she wasn't the first person to row the Atlantic (by a long shot!), only the first solo woman. If there is going to be an ocean rowing reference, surely it should be something earlier?

Kert01 14:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

More history please?

I'm really curious about pre-Columian ideas about the Atlantic Ocean, from both New and Old World perspectives, particularly from Roman sources. If anyone is knowledgable in this field I think this article would benefit greatly from your additions.

Minor Vandalism "This ocean smells like crap and occupies an elongated" I am guessing somebody messed with it.

Titanic

"The Atlantic is famous for many different historic events, one of them being the sinking of the
RMS Titanic on April 14, 1912 after hitting an iceberg
."

Obviously it is beyond comprehensiveness what makes this event so historical?! It is neither the first ship sunk, nor the last. Quite famous in popular culture but not historical for sure. – Goldie (tell me) 02:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Consistency

In the article it is stated that 'to the east, its boundaries are the European mainland, the Strait of Gibraltar, and the landmass of Africa'. Yet the accompanying image prominently has the Mediterranean and Black sea shaded in blue, signalling them as part of the the Atlantic Ocean.

Which is right? --Evilhairyhamster 18:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

This is a good point – in a sense, I believe both interpretations are right. The bulk of the Atlantic is situated between the Americas and Europe/Africa; however, the Mediterranean and Black Seas are subunits of the Atlantic (and thus, wash upon Asia Minor and the Levant in Asia). In any event, this calls for more specificity when describing the ocean and I have made (I think) appropriate edits. Quizimodo 03:29, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I HAVE NO INFORMATION

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Role of the Atlantic

The role of the Atlantic in warfare is not mentioned at all, as is Mid-Atlantic.--

mrg3105
23:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Proposed oceans project

Anyone interested in joining a project to deal with the oceans is free to indicate their support at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Oceans. John Carter (talk) 22:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

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I believe his cartography warrants a mention in the

WP:BB & add it. :)--Thecurran (talk
) 14:04, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

North / South Division

The north / south boundary is not explicit in this article. I will be

WP:BB and add it. :)--Thecurran (talk
) 14:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

First Man to Swim Across?

Why are there two people who were the first to swim across the Atlantic Ocean?

[from article: History section]

  1. In 1994, Guy Delage was the first man to swim across the Atlantic Ocean, from the Cape Verde islands to Barbados.
  2. In 1998, Benoit Lecomte was the first man to swim across the northern Atlantic Ocean, stopping for only one week in the Azores. Spiekier (talk) 04:24, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


This seems highly implausable, and without any citations I think it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.169.10 (talk) 15:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)