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Just a note: you are using the word "falsifiable" wrong on your user page. You have currently written: The Genesis account is a falsifiable truth, as it cannot be proven wrong but that doesn't exactly mean it's right. "Falsifiable" means, roughly "can be proven wrong," so "it cannot be proven wrong but that doesn't exactly mean it's right" is only correct if you mean that the theory in question is not falsifiable. Just though I would try to clarify that, since it looks like either a misunderstanding of the meaning or else a typo. :-) --Fastfission 00:21, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
And while we're on the topic of misunderstandings.
You may also want to be aware that Java Man was almost certainly not a gibbon. Among other problems, the skull is much to large. See [1]. Also, the claim about part of it being found 70 miles away is a misunderstanding arising from the same group discovering 70 miles away the Wadjak skull pictured here [2]. JoshuaZ 03:26, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks JoshuaZ for the awareness. Perhaps the femur was more recnt that the skullcap, so then as a matter of fact we must assume that they were not even related species. Java man had 940 cc, perhaps being most likely some king of athrophied human or something like that. You just got the skullcap. Java man is allegedly a homo erectus, just like the Peking man, right? That's just trusting in C14 dating, and for your sadness a recently dead seal in Antarctica was dated 1300 years old by C14. How could it have been 1300 years old if it had been killed 3 days ago?--Arturo #7 03:35, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't want to get in an extended discussion with you about this on Wiki (if you want to continue over email, that would be fine). I was merely pointing out that Java man was not at all Gibbon like. Also, I did not intend to make any claim that Java man is by itself very useful evidence- we have many other homo erectus remains at this point. Your others claims are similarly flawed or misguided. Note for example, that seals could easily be found to be much older by C14 dating than they are due to the reservoir effect (which is why when dating marine life using C14 one often needs to think carefully about what sort of life it was and what its habitat was (and why one in fact often uses other methods to cross-calibrate)). JoshuaZ 03:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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Please do not recreate deleted material such as template:User christian... thanks. I've deleted this template. ++Lar: t/c 20:05, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- it's your stuff if you do believe or not in God, do not parrot your lame ideas into others. --Arturo #7 20:35, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- I prefer to keep discussions threaded, see the header on my talk page, so I've refactored to here, and you can answer here. I deleted this template under our civility policies and keep them in mind for further comments, thanks. Finally, there are review processes if, after reviewing our practices and policies, you really think this deletion was not justified... ++Lar: t/c 20:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)]
- I prefer to keep discussions threaded, see the header on my talk page, so I've refactored to here, and you can answer here. I deleted this template under
- So then why was it deleted? =S--Arturo #7 21:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- CSD G4, as I said before, "Recreation of previously deleted material". This template is divisive and it (and close variants) have been deleted multiple times already. See the Templates for deletion archives. Note also that the template has been userified, if you really want to use it, see User:Xoloz/UBX/User_Christian and transclude it onto your page and change it around as you see fit. ++Lar: t/c 10:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)]
- CSD G4, as I said before, "Recreation of previously deleted material". This template is divisive and it (and close variants) have been deleted multiple times already. See the
- what do you mean by divisive? I'm just asking why it was deleted the first time.. There are templates for atheists and agnostics I guess, so why shouldn't there be a template for christians? Seems kinda suspicious..--Arturo #7 15:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
- See WP:DRV. This box has been discussed to death many times. Note that "X is bad and Y is bad and X exists so why can't Y exist" is invalid as an argument here. The atheist and agnostic templates need to go too. Sorry, I'm done with this, there's nothing more to say. ++Lar: t/c 16:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)]
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- I'm currently working on this article, and I'll edit on my own words but I used the s8int.com stuff as a basis for it. I'm trying to find more external documentation on the findingd, perhaps doesn't seem to work out so well. As it seems like www.misteromania.it is the sole site providing good information on the Caria unknown civilization, I'm going to ask for permission to translate and publish it, perhaps how could I put the authorization tag here? Could you explain me please? Thanks --Arturo #7 21:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Yeah, thanks for coming! I was working on an article on an alleged unknown civilization near Girifalco, Italy. But a more in-depth research led me to just 2 results on Google about it, so that doesn't make sense. Is it just a hoax? --Arturo #7 21:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
- I can't tell you if it's a hoax or not, but I can advise you on what you should do; but I'll have to see the page first. Also, in future, you should put the {{don't talk|email] 21:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)]
- I can't tell you if it's a hoax or not, but I can advise you on what you should do; but I'll have to see the page first. Also, in future, you should put the {{
- This alleged unknown calabrese civilization doesn't have a proper name and doesn't have so much sources. --Arturo #7 21:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
- Does the subject of that page has its own Wikipedia article? —don't talk|email] 21:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)]
- Does the subject of that page has its own Wikipedia article? —
- This alleged unknown calabrese civilization doesn't have a proper name and doesn't have so much sources. --Arturo #7 21:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I think you have to put the hang on on the article page not the discussion page.
Read the template on your article and follow the instructions. It tells you exactly were to put the hang-on. Mattisse(talk) 21:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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- In regard to [[Portal:Evolution, you may want to be awat that WP:NPOVapplies to portals as well, and it regards evolutionary proccesses as factual. That's a clear NPOV violation--Arturo #7 02:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)]
- First, I don't believe there is a WP:POINT). JoshuaZ 02:31, 9 August 2006 (UTC)]
- I mistook, in Biology portal evolution is treated as a fact. There's a WikiProject for evolution. And the main idea for this Creationism portal is not supporting it, it's rather debating issues between evolution and creation. A skeptical developing a creationism portal. Notice that is NOT a creationist portal (it would be more likely to support creationism as it's cevouted to it the term "creationist"), it is a CREATIONISM one, regarding it as a valid topic. Stop bothering with nonsense. You might be blind if you don't see the clear NPOV violation across Biology Portal. This portal will be treated according to Wikipedia's NPOV policy, rather than "consensus-defined" topics like mainstream science. Or does the word consensus mean true to you? If the entire catholic church has an unproven consensus over Mary's virginity, does it make it true? No. Consensus are for unproven stuff and their belief is a matter of faith, as they cannot be proven right. --Arturo #7 02:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- First, Wikiprojects are often given more leeway than normal space pages(since they are not encyclopedia content). Second, a Portal that claims that Creationism has "its roots in the truth behind the creation from a biblical perspective" is hardly NPOV regardless of what comments you make. Third, if you thinkt here is an NPOV problem at the bio portal, then bring it up there. However, there isn't one- the vast majority of biologists support and acknowledge evolution and to give any credence to creationism as a scientific idea would be undue weight. Fourth, even your claims contradict themselves because in the portal title you say that it is biblical and that it is scientific - theology and science are not the same things. As for the meaning of consensus, where science articles are concerned, we have well developed understanding of how to handle these matters. Remember, Wikipedia never cares about what is true, it cares about what is Verifiable. JoshuaZ 03:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)]
- Also, I'm curious as to what directly on the bio page you think is so POV. At present there seems to be little evolution on the page. Did you have a specific sentence in mind? JoshuaZ 03:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's hard NOT to figure out what is so POV.. Just look at the Major fields in Biology... don't you read the Tree of Life and numerous references to evolutionary biology? And take a look at the millions of evolutionist references in all of those themes. --Arturo #7 03:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't understand, so now referencing evolution is POV? Do you think those aren't major areas of biology? Are you arguing that there are not thousands of researchers in those areas? I would think that even most diehard creationists would agree that these are major areas of biology. They might think that the conventional understanding of those areas is wrong, or they might think that the entire basis for those areas is flawed, but they would agree that those are major areas. Am I missing something here? (And keep in mind that even if it were POV, my above other comments still apply, especially WP:POINT) JoshuaZ 03:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)]
- They refer as if they were essential and factual fields of biology. And oh I'm sorry, they're not. They're everything but a fact. Anyway I'm not interested in that portal, I'm developing this one as a true-false issue, not to counter any other wikiproject (a.k.a. Wikipedia:Wikiproject Evolutionary biology and its senseless references (nothing in biology makes sense if not under the light of evolution). Thanks for NPOVing the intro. --Arturo #7 03:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't touch the intro, someone else did. I also don't know what you mean as a true-false issue, but I can't reiterate more, that Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. Also as I've attempted to explain before, Wikiprojects and portals are different and have very different rules applying to them. Additionally, I don't see anywhere the words "essential" and "factual" were used there. JoshuaZ 03:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)]
- I didn't touch the intro, someone else did. I also don't know what you mean as a true-false issue, but I can't reiterate more, that Wikipedia is about
- They refer as if they were essential and factual fields of biology. And oh I'm sorry, they're not. They're everything but a fact. Anyway I'm not interested in that portal, I'm developing this one as a true-false issue, not to counter any other wikiproject (a.k.a. Wikipedia:Wikiproject Evolutionary biology and its senseless references (nothing in biology makes sense if not under the light of evolution). Thanks for NPOVing the intro. --Arturo #7 03:34, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't understand, so now referencing evolution is POV? Do you think those aren't major areas of biology? Are you arguing that there are not thousands of researchers in those areas? I would think that even most diehard creationists would agree that these are major areas of biology. They might think that the conventional understanding of those areas is wrong, or they might think that the entire basis for those areas is flawed, but they would agree that those are major areas. Am I missing something here? (And keep in mind that even if it were POV, my above other comments still apply, especially
- It's hard NOT to figure out what is so POV.. Just look at the Major fields in Biology... don't you read the Tree of Life and numerous references to evolutionary biology? And take a look at the millions of evolutionist references in all of those themes. --Arturo #7 03:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- First, Wikiprojects are often given more leeway than normal space pages(since they are not encyclopedia content). Second, a Portal that claims that Creationism has "its roots in the truth behind the creation from a biblical perspective" is hardly NPOV regardless of what comments you make. Third, if you thinkt here is an NPOV problem at the bio portal, then bring it up there. However, there isn't one- the vast majority of biologists support and acknowledge evolution and to give any credence to creationism as a scientific idea would be undue weight. Fourth, even your claims contradict themselves because in the portal title you say that it is biblical and that it is scientific - theology and science are not the same things. As for the meaning of consensus, where science articles are concerned, we have well developed understanding of how to handle these matters. Remember, Wikipedia never cares about what is true, it cares about what is
- I mistook, in Biology portal evolution is treated as a fact. There's a WikiProject for evolution. And the main idea for this Creationism portal is not supporting it, it's rather debating issues between evolution and creation. A skeptical developing a creationism portal. Notice that is NOT a creationist portal (it would be more likely to support creationism as it's cevouted to it the term "creationist"), it is a CREATIONISM one, regarding it as a valid topic. Stop bothering with nonsense. You might be blind if you don't see the clear NPOV violation across Biology Portal. This portal will be treated according to Wikipedia's NPOV policy, rather than "consensus-defined" topics like mainstream science. Or does the word consensus mean true to you? If the entire catholic church has an unproven consensus over Mary's virginity, does it make it true? No. Consensus are for unproven stuff and their belief is a matter of faith, as they cannot be proven right. --Arturo #7 02:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- First, I don't believe there is a
- (reduce indent) It seems to me that Arturo is really trying to create what should be a blog or private web page, not a WikiPortal. In addition, the selection of categories seems to be clearly POV driven, rather than following any logical rationale. For example, I'm at a loss as to how "Jesus" plays a part -- that seems to be a bit outside the issue. I'll need to look over the portal page further to see if any other clearly POV-driven cats/subjects/etc., play a part. •Jim62sch• 09:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Jesus will be used to show creationism-christianiy incompatibility. Thanks Arturo #7 16:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Er what? Your saying that Jesus shows that creationism and christianity are incompatible? I know a few people who think that, but given your earlier comments that seems a bit odd coming from you. Incidentally, you may want to be aware that a Wikiproject and a portal are very different- projects are behind the scenes for organizational purposes, not encyclopedic in themselves. Thus, projects should not be listed in "related portals" JoshuaZ 16:36, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- This is my first portal, and I'm working on the scheme of Big Bang theory Arturo #7 16:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)]
- Er, I'd be highly surprised if the bio portal had anything about the Big Bang (that's physics and cosmology, not bio and has nothing to do with biological evolution)- a glance through confirms that there isn't anything there. At present your portal seems mainly NPOV, if any specific issues come up, I will be happy to point them out. (I also took the liberty of reincluding the project list and labeling them as projects rather than portals which should deal with that). JoshuaZ 16:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Lol, I refered to the anti-creationism references found in the Creationism Portal. Thanks for moving the project list! Arturo #7 16:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes much more sense. JoshuaZ 16:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hey dude, the "feat" lists can be edited for changing once a while or they have to be edited maunaully every day? Arturo #7 16:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you are reffering to. Could you give a link? JoshuaZ 17:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Creationism's selected picture. I can't stand how to set a list of featured pictures for them to change daily. Is it possible? --Arturo #7 17:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of a way to do so. For most portals that I keep track of they change it manually, and only once every few days or weeks. Only the very large portals with a lot of contributors change things daily. If you want a possible way of doing it I would ask on Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). JoshuaZ 19:44, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Creationism's selected picture. I can't stand how to set a list of featured pictures for them to change daily. Is it possible? --Arturo #7 17:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you are reffering to. Could you give a link? JoshuaZ 17:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hey dude, the "feat" lists can be edited for changing once a while or they have to be edited maunaully every day? Arturo #7 16:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes much more sense. JoshuaZ 16:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Lol, I refered to the anti-creationism references found in the Creationism Portal. Thanks for moving the project list! Arturo #7 16:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Er, I'd be highly surprised if the bio portal had anything about the Big Bang (that's physics and cosmology, not bio and has nothing to do with biological evolution)- a glance through confirms that there isn't anything there. At present your portal seems mainly NPOV, if any specific issues come up, I will be happy to point them out. (I also took the liberty of reincluding the project list and labeling them as projects rather than portals which should deal with that). JoshuaZ 16:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Jesus will be used to show creationism-christianiy incompatibility. Thanks Arturo #7 16:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Mystery Stone
Good news, we were given permission to use the images! I've put them back up, but I'm thinking of adding a different one for the second one. Have you seen the Historical Society's picture of the back of the stone? I think it's a better picture of the symbols we are describing in the article, so I may upload it later today.--TurabianNights 18:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, thanks so much! Currently I'm trying to re-edit the Noah's vineyard article as it was created when I was almost going to sleep so it lacked of any encyclopedic content at all, so that's why I erased it. I'll re-edit it and perhaps I'll look for more OOParts like that. Seems like a great topic for debate. Arturo #7 18:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)]
- While I've got you on the line here, could we standardize OOPArts? I see them listed alternately as OOPArts and OOParts - I believe the former is the more correct, since "Art" is a separate word. As it is now, it looks like we're talking about "Out Of Parts" instead of "Out Of Place Art's." Thanks--TurabianNights 18:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Also, I'm not sure Noah's Vineyard is an OOPArt, judging from what I've dug up about it. There's so little material on it, and most of it from Wyatt himself, don't you think it would do better as a section on the Wyatt page than a little stub in its own right?--TurabianNights 18:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've thought something else about it. On Wyatt's entry it already lists his claimed discoveries, so we could take a deep look at them and create an entry like Ron Wyatt's alleged discoveries for a general detailed view for all of them (ranging from Noah's Ark, the Ark of the Covenant and the Exodus.Arturo #7 18:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Is there enough literature on that not written by Wyatt? I agree that could be very interesting.--TurabianNights 18:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm... on Noah's Ark I've seen a lot of TV shows related to it, specially on the History Channel, and some about Wyatt's findings about the Exodus on a few creationists sites. I'll check them out on Google.Arturo #7 18:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Just did a little Googling myself - don't know how reliable tentmaker.org is, but they've sure got Wyatt's number! Also, [[3]]. Work it up and we'll see how it goes - there is already some analysis of Wyatt's findings on the Wyatt page, and we wouldn't want things to get too redundant.--TurabianNights 18:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm... on Noah's Ark I've seen a lot of TV shows related to it, specially on the History Channel, and some about Wyatt's findings about the Exodus on a few creationists sites. I'll check them out on Google.Arturo #7 18:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Is there enough literature on that not written by Wyatt? I agree that could be very interesting.--TurabianNights 18:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've thought something else about it. On Wyatt's entry it already lists his claimed discoveries, so we could take a deep look at them and create an entry like Ron Wyatt's alleged discoveries for a general detailed view for all of them (ranging from Noah's Ark, the Ark of the Covenant and the Exodus.Arturo #7 18:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- The more I read the current Mt. Sinai, Sodom and Gomorrah etc. etc.? They'd probably be more apropos there.--TurabianNights 19:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)]
- The more I read the current
- Check this out: Ron Wyatt's alleged discoveries. I'm currently working on it, but I'll go out to my beach house for a few days (short vacation here in Chile =D) and I'll edit it later on next tuesday or wednesday. Check it out and tell me what you think about it. I'll later add a further research on each one of the alleged discoveries. Arturo #7 19:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. — Dunc|☺ 21:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- While I'm not sure Dunc should have given the above vandalism warning, I have also reverted your edition of the cat to a number of articles. For most of the people you added it for I'm not even sure the term makes sense in their time periods, and given that it wasnt a major issue for almost any of them it is at minimum over-categorizing. JoshuaZ 21:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- U r just parroting ur evolution ideas!!! C'mon who's a NPVOV admin here??? They WERE creationists, just READ their works =S. This "encyclopaedia" makes no sense with that POV thing u do...... Arturo #7 21:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh calm down. Labeling most of these people creationists is akin to labeling Carolus Linnaeus since creationism is relevant to them and some of them were more later time period where creationism was a distinct view in contrast to other viewpoints. However, I strongly suggest that you go to individual talk pages for each article you wish to put the cat on and discuss it there rather than going through en mass. JoshuaZ 21:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)]
- I've also asked the uninvolved admin Slimvirgin to take a look at this conversation when she has a minute. Hopefully that will satisfy your desire for an uninvolved admin (although since this has nothing to do with admin related activities it isn't clear to me why you would want one anyways). JoshuaZ 21:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)]
- I've also removed it from Rudolf Virchow because unless I'm mistaken he actually was not a creationist. This is why you should go through them individually. JoshuaZ 21:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- OMG.....I'm NOT talking about being involved. I talk about a NEUTRAL point of view. Saint Isaac Newton WAS a creationist, like it or not. And do u think that if all past creationists were alive 2day they'd believe in evolution? Oh, assh*le.. B disappointed... Evolution and old-earth thought are PRETTY old. Democritus, for example, was an old earth creationist. And even post-darwin .scientists didn't back up evolution, like James Joule, Louis Pasteur, Gregor Mendel, John Ambrose Fleming and MANY more. Even I'd dare to say that NO well-known scientist has ever supported evolution, perhaps Albert Einstein. Arturo #7 21:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)]
- Again, calm down. Pasteur wasn't (hence I just removed him) see [4]. Also, I think your defintion of well known scientisit is a bit small. And you seem to be confusing anti-evolution or skeptical of natural selection or favoring guided evolution etc. with creationism. As for other well known scientists, it isn't that relevant, but oh Sagan and Hawkins come to mine. Or Gould. Or about 10 others. But I have dinner now. In the meantime, please stop posting the category everywhere. And be mindful of WP:3RR. JoshuaZ 21:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)]
- Oh no, Pasteur was NOT a creationist according to who? A EVOLUTIONIST SITE? lol... you are so lame. do u no what a well-known scientist is someone who has made science greater. Galileo's telescope. Saint Isaac Newton's gravity. Pasteur's pasteurization.. what has Gould done 4 science except for promovin a THEORY? (evolution is just a theory, unluckily 4 u it hasn't been proven right EVER) Arturo #7 21:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- And researching again, guess what..... SAINT LOUIS PASTEUR was a creationist! :) Pasteur’s works on abiogenesis should have dealt the death blow to the idea of spontaneous generation. But spontaneous generation is an essential part of the theory of evolution. Despite all the efforts of evolutionary scientists, not one observable case of spontaneous generation has ever been found. Pasteur’s findings conflicted with the idea of spontaneous generation (as do all scientific results since). Consequently, Louis Pasteur was a strong opponent of Darwin’s theory. And keep on trying! The origin of the universe is a dicotomy: was or not created by God? That leads 2 3 types of answers, the yes, the no and the dunno. The yes stands for young earth creationism, the no for naturalist evolution and the dunno for theistic evolution. Saint Louis Pasteur couldn't have supported any form of evolution, haven't u heard of HIS Law of Biogenesis? Keep on trying evo-loser. Arturo #7 21:56, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- Again, calm down. Pasteur wasn't (hence I just removed him) see [4]. Also, I think your defintion of well known scientisit is a bit small. And you seem to be confusing anti-evolution or skeptical of natural selection or favoring guided evolution etc. with creationism. As for other well known scientists, it isn't that relevant, but oh Sagan and Hawkins come to mine. Or Gould. Or about 10 others. But I have dinner now. In the meantime, please stop posting the category everywhere. And be mindful of
- OMG.....I'm NOT talking about being involved. I talk about a NEUTRAL point of view. Saint Isaac Newton WAS a creationist, like it or not. And do u think that if all past creationists were alive 2day they'd believe in evolution? Oh, assh*le.. B disappointed... Evolution and old-earth thought are PRETTY old. Democritus, for example, was an old earth creationist. And even post-darwin .scientists didn't back up evolution, like
- Oh calm down. Labeling most of these people creationists is akin to labeling
- U r just parroting ur evolution ideas!!! C'mon who's a NPVOV admin here??? They WERE creationists, just READ their works =S. This "encyclopaedia" makes no sense with that POV thing u do...... Arturo #7 21:13, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
- There are many problems with what you've put above. First, abiogenesis and evolution are distinct issues. WP:NPA. And to just rehash the primary point, none of this is relevant as to whether in individual articles the cats should be there or not. JoshuaZ 23:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)]
- There are many problems with what you've put above. First, abiogenesis and evolution are distinct issues.
- Unfolding astonishing ignorance once again, how surprising? You claim John Paul II, for example. Arturo #7 19:18, 31 August 2006 (UTC)]
- Unfolding astonishing ignorance once again, how surprising? You claim
- This is going to most likely be my last reply on the matter since Wikipedia is not for debating but for constructing encyclopedia articles and this seems to be far off the original point. First, by "naturalistic evolution" you seem to mean philosophical naturalism which has little or no bearing on evolutin. And again, evolution doesn't say life came from nowhere, it just doesn't care. Where life came from is a question for biochemistry not biology. To use an analogy, if you ask me how I made some potato dish, and I give you all the steps starting with buying the potato at the store you don't reject my instructions and recipe because I don't know how the potato got to the store. It simply isn't relevant to the information I am trying to impart to you. I'm still puzzled by your defintion of "well-known." This may be a linguistic issue (I don't know what your native language is) but in English well-known simply means known by many. Your insistence that it has something to do with their work having applications is unique to you. In any event, as to the people you have mentioned, I think it would be hard to find much in the way of practical applications by Kepler or Galileo. I'm also puzzled by your claim that "more science in their little finger than in Gould's white fat ass" in that I don't know how you intend to measure levels of science (and to the sentence before that please mind the personal attacks). As to your not being interested in abiogenesis on other planets, you interest or lack thereof isn't relevant, and the idea that insects on the moon or kittens on mars would somehow be expected indicates a deep misunderstanding of evolutionary theory. Among other problems with that comment, the same thing would evolve twice with probability 0 and given how different the Martian and lunar environments are from earth's one would expect any life on them (if there were(there certainly isn't on the Moon)) to be radically different from life on earth (at minimum, there is no reason to expect chitinto evolve on multiple planets).
- As to your fifth point, if you think "proof" has anything to do with science and continue to insist that "unproven theory" is somehow a bad thing that makes something not science, I strongly suggest you read a book on the philosophy of science or at least the intro chapter of most college science textbooks. As to the pharmacology point- perhaps I wasn't clear enough. A large amount of pharmacology research and related research using the evolutionary links between species to predict what species are good for modeling what (for example predicting that mice are good for modeling the human immune system). As to your related point about the origin of the universe- I don't know how many times I need to repeat this, evolution isn't about that, or about abiogenesis or much else. Please read evolution to get some idea what it is about. For all evolution cares the universe could have been created by God or Vishnu or could have been always around. It doesn't matter at all.
- Sixth- calling a site "bullshit" does not in anyway actually refute any point, and you'll forgive me if given your track record I don't immediately decide to trust your view of what constitutes bullshit.
- Seventh- as to the defintion of "dichotomy" it might help if you checked a dictionary. A dichotomy is two mutually contradictory possibilities. By defintion, a dichotomy cannot be a continuum, there is no middle ground. As to your claim that "Theistic evolution is just trying to believe in God but with evolution and go to hell in peace." and related claims, you may want to consider that you don't have a personal monopoly on faith nor on interpreting the Bible nor on anything else. I am shocked and appalled that anyone would have the arrogance to decide who goes to hell and who doesn't. Do you think on the final judgement you will be sitting at Jesus's right hand and telling him whether people should go to hell or not based on how old they thought the earth was? "Sorry, I know you have faith in me and accepted me as your lord and Savior and my blood washed away all your sins, but Arturo here says you thought the world was too old so you are going into the fire reserved for the devil and his angels"? Do you really think God is going to damn people based on believing how old the world is? Your comment about leftists is almost as appalling- the notion that somehow modern political alignments have something to do with whether people are good or evil or saved or lost or whatever is off the wall. And what for that matter do you even mean by "leftist"? After all, in most countries today it is the right that is in favor of capital punishment, and yet Jesus said "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." I could go on for hours, the point is that neither the "left" nor the "right" in any country have an agenda which has much to do with what Jesus preached. As to your insistence that evolution is a religion, again evolution doesn't care about the origin of the universe and such. And even if it, would that magically make it a religion? Do you see evolutionist churches or temples? Are there evolutionist doctrines? Do they call anathema on Lamarck?
- Finally, as to asserting that Newton and Kepler were "true believers"- Newton had is own peculiar beliefs which rejected the Trinity and Kepler had similarly odd beliefs, not exactly true believers. It might help if you would do a little research before you claimed everyone as your own. JoshuaZ 21:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
- This is going to most likely be my last reply on the matter since Wikipedia is not for debating but for constructing encyclopedia articles and this seems to be far off the original point. First, by "naturalistic evolution" you seem to mean
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I totally disagree with creationism, but I agree it would be useful to the debate to have this so called list of evidence. And I will not "vandalise" it by putting in al the obvious refutations. Go ahead and bud your list. But, to me it has nothing to do with science, it has everything to do with religion. You cannot deny others the right to categorise your articel as they feel appropraite. I'll leave your science-stub tag there if you'll leave my reli-stub there.
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- And do you think Evidence for evolution is a NPOV article?? You gotta be nuts. And you do know there are no refutations, as a matter of fact your theory is so leaky, most likely all theories in crisis.Arturo #7 12:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)]
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Please do not have a debate in this evidence of creation page. Even more so, do not pretend to have a debate, where you put up what you suggest are evolutionists' (weak) arguments, and then yourself counter them. To do so will only invite a lot of counter debate from evolutionists.
The page will be more useful just as a basic list of your claims of the Evidence for Creation, or, as you seem to be doing, putting up evidence againt evolution (which is not really the same thing at all, but we can let that pass)
Let's try to at least to keep it civilised.--Richardb43 12:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Per Richard, the article seemed like a soapbox. That is inexcusable even for talk pages, but for articles it represents a whole new level of nerve. I've accordingly made some major changes and have described my reasons in the talk page.UberCryxic 06:12, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
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One of our newer editors, User:David_FLXD, has recently gone through much of our content related to Methodism and assessed it. We are very grateful for his efforts, and that of all the editors who have had a role in developing that content. We have every reason to believe that this will make it significantly easier for the Methodism work group to create and develop content relevant to Methodism. To help that along, we certainly encourage everyone to do what they can to help David and the other Methodism editors to bring the content relevant to their tradition to the highest possible level of quality.
I believe
... in the
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WikiProject Christianity September 2012 newsletter
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Membership report
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From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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By John Carter
Church of the month
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by User:Diliff
Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of
Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. Last month's challenge articles were
Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-September through mid-October) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of the
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report,
Wikimedia Foundation report
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As some of you may have seen, the
Christian art
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Spotlight
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I believe
... that human nature is insufficient for salvation, and the grace of God is required to do so. I believe that God has preordained who will and will not achieve salvation. I believe that Jesus's atonement was sufficient for the purposes for which it was done. I believe that God's grace is of such power that it can overcome any person's resistance. I believe that those whom God has chosen for salvation will, by the undeniable power of God, persevere in God's grace. I am a
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WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter
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September 2012 |
Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 347 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members,
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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By John Carter
Church of the month
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Basel_-_Pauluskirche1.jpg/200px-Basel_-_Pauluskirche1.jpg)
by User:Taxiarchos228, recently promoted to Featured Image
Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will be to develop content related to the
One of last month's challenge articles,
Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-October through mid-November) includes
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Augustinian theodicy by User:ItsZippy was promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Merseyside by User:Peter I. Vardy was promoted to Featured List. The images in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status. John Wheelwright by User:Sarnold17, Christmas Party (The Office) by User:Gen. Quon and If We Are the Body by User:Toa Nidhiki05, were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Cathedral of Saint Demetrius, Craiova, by User:Biruitorul, Nerses IV the Gracious by User:John Carter, Church of St Candida and Holy Cross by User:BarretB, St Laurence's Church, Morland by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Mary's Church, Longfleet by User:Bermicourt, Chor von St. Bonifatius by User:Gerda Arendt, St Andrew's Church, Penrith by User:Peter I. Vardy, Holy Rosary Cathedral (Vancouver) by User:Bloom6132, Sacred Heart Cathedral (Kamloops) by User:Bloom6132, St Columba's Church, Warcop by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Oswald's Church, Ravenstonedale by User:Peter I. Vardy, and W. E. Biederwolf by User:John Foxe. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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Spotlight
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WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter
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November 2012 |
Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 349 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members,
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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By John Carter
Church of the month
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Recently promoted to Featured Image. Great work!
Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will continue with the
Calendar
This coming month (mid-November through mid-December) includes the
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report,
Christian art
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Bruxels_April_2012-11a.jpg/200px-Bruxels_April_2012-11a.jpg)
Spotlight
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - December 2012
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December 2012 |
Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 350 active members. We would like to welcome our newest member,
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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By John Carter
Church of the month
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This image of
was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!
Contest of the month
As I imagine many of our editors will be editing at a greatly reduced level for the next few weeks, what with the Christmas and New Year's holidays coming, there is no specific content-related contest this month. The contest, if anything, is to make the most of the season, in whatever way, if any, you deem appropriate.
Calendar
This coming month (mid-December through mid-January) includes the
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report,
Christian art
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Spotlight
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In the spirit of Christmas, the spotlight for the coming month might actually best be on those people closest to you. We know that a lot of our editors here are associated in some way or another with schools, and many if not most of them are going on rather extended breaks for the holidays. This can give some of us a chance to meet up with old friends, spend time with our families and those close to us, and, in a sense, "recharge" for the new year. So, for all of you who are in some way part of that group, we wish you the very best of holidays. We hope you all return to editing after the holidays with your spirits lifted and with your energies at peak level. There are some small matters in development here as well, and it is our hope that some of them will be ready come the next newsletter. But, until then, we wish you all the happiest and holiest (if appropriate) holidays.
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - January 2013
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January 2013 |
Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 354 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members,
From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
With that, I wish you all happy reading!
P.S. Please click here to add the new
By John Carter
Church of the month
This image of Alexander Nevsky Cathedral in Tallinn, Estonia by User:Poco a poco
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, the image in the "Church of the Month" section of this newsletter was promoted to Featured Image status.
Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes, BWV 40 by Gerda Arendt and others, Teuruarii IV by Lemurbaby, KAVEBEAR and others, and Peace on Earth (Casting Crowns album) by Toa Nidhiki05 and others, were all promoted to GA status.
Also this past month, the DYKs on the main page included St James' Church, Cardington by Peter I. Vardy, Bishop's Palace, Kraków by Poeticbent, Kippinge Church by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Trinitatis Church, also by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Steindamm Church by Olessi, St Laurence's Church, Church Stretton by Peter I. Vardy, Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Meteora, by Peter I. Vardy, Sonrise Church, by Aboutmovies, St. Peter's Episcopal Church (Albany, New York), by Daniel Case, All Saints Church, Claverley, by Peter I. Vardy, and Church of the Holy Virgin Mary of Lourdes, by Poeticbent. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!
Christian art
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This image was created by User:Dcoetzee. Thank you, Dcoetzee!
Spotlight
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The Spotlight this month turns to the
By John Carter
Calendar
This coming month (mid-January through mid-February) includes
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter April 2013
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April 2013 |
Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 357 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members,
From the Editor
We apologise for the hiatus in the publication of this newsletter due to unforseen circumstances leading to the wikibreak of John Carter, and so I have taken over as acting editor, and have taken this opportunity to move the publication date to the start of each month as planned, to better reflect on the previous month and look ahead to the next. This issue covers the period of time from mid-January to the end of March.
Since the last issue we have seen the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of Pope Francis. This has received much coverage both in the world media and on Wikipedia. While there is still much work to do, several quality articles have been written and the editors involved are thanked for their efforts.
This month we look ahead to Easter and the celebration of God's love for mankind through the crucifixion and resurrection of his Son Jesus Christ. With that, I wish you all happy reading!
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By Gilderien
Church of the month
This image of the Church of Saint Ildefonso, Portugal by Poco a poco was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report;
Grade I listed churches in Cumbria was promoted to Featured List status, thanks to Peter I. Vardy, and the image above of the Church of Saint Ildefonso was promoted to featured picture status.
Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included
Christian art
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Spotlight
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The Spotlight this month turns to the
By Gilderien
Calendar
This coming month (end-March through end-April) includes
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (May 2013)
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May 2013 |
Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 363 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members,
From the Editor
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This month we hear the news that the Bible is to be made into a film after outstanding success of a biblical miniseries on the History Channel, and we have seen the release of Iraqi Pastor Ali Hamzah from his confinement in Iraq.
After last month's spotlight on the Jesus work group, the flagship article, Jesus, was nominated for Good Article status after much work from FutureTrillionaire and History2007, and provisionally passed by the reviewer, although they have requested a second opinion. Our many thanks for the hard work that has gone into restoring this article to a quality piece of work.
This month the second largest denomination of Christianity, the Eastern Orthodox Church, celebrates Easter and the death and resurrection of the Son of God Jesus Christ.
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By Gilderien
Church of the month
Wells Cathedral was this month promoted to GA status. Rodw has appealed for any help project members can give to improve this article for a FA nomination.
Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content.
By John Carter
Featured content and GA report
Since the last report;
Featured report;
Wells Cathedral, by Rodw, Robert of Ghent, by User:Ealdgyth, Christianity in Medieval Scotland, by Sabrebd, and Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, also by Sabrebd were promoted to GA status.
Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included
Christian art
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Spotlight
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SPOTLIGHT
This month, we turn our attention to the
By Gilderien
Calendar
This coming month (end-April through end-May) includes
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)
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June 2013 |
From the Editor
Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.
From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.
We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.
Church of the month
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The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.
Good articles and DYKs
The article
Focus on...
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THE
HISTORICAL JESUS
Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.
In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.
The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.
From the bookshelf
Just a few years after its publication,
Did you know...
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Soli_deo_gloria.jpg/100px-Soli_deo_gloria.jpg)
- ... that Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handelat times did the same?
Calendar
The coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (July 2013)
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July 2013 |
From the Editor
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WP:X has gained another Featured Article, Gospel of the Ebionites, by Ignocrates. The Gospel of the Ebionites is the name scholars give to an apocryphal gospel that supposedly belonged to a sect known as the Ebionites. It consists of seven short quotations discovered in a heresiology known as the Panarion, written by Epiphanius of Salamis, and its original title remains unknown. The text is a gospel harmony composed in Greek, and is believed to have been written during the middle of the 2nd century.
St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn was promoted to Good Article status, as was two other welsh churches, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, and St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch.
The main page also featured several DYK hooks for articles in our project, namely
Church of the month
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Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 367 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members,
Focus on...
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THE
HISTORICAL JESUS
When did Jesus live? When did he die? How do we know? We do, in fact, have excellent information about the time intervals for the life and death of Jesus. As in other people who lived and died in the first century, this gives an approximate date range, but still, give or take 3-4 years and we have pretty good estimates confirmed by a number of really diverse sources, ranging from inscriptions in Delphi to Roman and Jewish sources. The Chronology of Jesus article discusses how a wide variety of Christian, Jewish and Roman sources are used to establish the time-frame for the life and death of Jesus.
And all of his data fits together. For instance, the chronology of Paul had been discussed based on the
From the bookshelf
This two volume book (with a very apt title) is gem-filled with scholarly research.
Did you know...
- ... that the Russian journalist Hemis monastery that an adult Jesus had traveled to India, later confessed to fabricating his evidence?
Calendar
This month (July) contains the feast days of
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This issue was distributed on behalf of Gilderien, current editor of the Ichthus, at 20:52, 30 June 2013 (UTC). Comments and other feedback are always welcome at his talk page.
August 2013 WikiProject Christianity Newsletter
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August 2013 |
From the Editor
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Welcome to the August 2013 issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. We focus on the historical Jesus and reflect on the last month.
The project has another featured picture,
Our project had several of its articles featured in the main page DYK section, including
Our thanks go to all of those who have worked to achieve these article milestones.
Church of the month
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This image, of Maillezais Cathedral and created by Selbymay was this month promoted to featured picture status.
Membership report
We would like to welcome our newest members,
Focus on...
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THE
HISTORICAL JESUS
What was Jesus like? What did he preach? Did he claim to be the Messiah? Did he predict an apocalypse? What can we know about him outside a religious context? The Historical Jesus article discusses what can be known about Jesus with various degrees of probability. While scholars agree on the over all flow and outline of Jesus' life (his baptism by John, debated Jewish authorities, healings, and his crucifixion by Pilate) they have built various and diverging portraits of the rest of his life. These range from minimalist portraits that accept very little of the gospel accounts to maximalists who accept most of the accounts as historical.
The portraits of Jesus have at times been unwitting reflections of the researchers themselves, and Crossan once quipped that some authors "do autobiography and call it biography". However, the study of historical Jesus has made one thing clear: there is so much to learn about Jesus that the more one looks, the more there is to discover.
From the bookshelf
In this book Maurice Casey not only draws on his special expertise in the Aramaic traditions and the Q source, but provides a comprehensive review of the various approaches to the historical Jesus.
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- ... that in 1951 Christianity was the second largest religion in the world with 500 million followers, compared to 520 million Buddhists, but by 2013 it had gained the top spot with about 2.2 billion Christians?
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Project News
By Lionelt
Belated Happy Easter and Kalo Pascha! We're excited to announce the return of our newsletter Ichthus! Getting this issue out was touch-and-go for a while. Check out what's happening at the Project:
- There was a lively discussion about the Easter Did You Know nomination Christ the Lord is Risen Today
- RFC at Knights of Columbus regarding a question about having Prop 8 in the lead
- In anticipation of being nominated for Featured article, Presbyterian Church in the United States of America was put up for Peer Review by Ltwin
- The death of Billy Graham on February 21 was a profound loss for many. For the Wikipedia reaction see this discussion. Graham received a blurb.
- And... Order of Friars Minor--nominated by Chicbyaccident--is still waiting for a GA reviewer. Please help out if you can.
Achievements
In March the Project saw four articles promoted to GA-Class. They were the oh-so-irresistible Delilah (nom. MagicatthemovieS) (pictured), Edict of Torda (nom. Borsoka), David Meade (author) (nom. LovelyGirl7) and last but not least Black Christmas (2006 film) (nom. Drown_Soda). Black Christmas? How did that get in there lol? Congratulations to all of the nominators for a job well done!
Did You Know
Nominated by The C of E
... that some people know
Featured article
Nominated by FutureTrillionaire
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By Lionelt
Last month's auspicious relaunch of our newsletter precipitated something of an uproar in the Wikipedia community. What started as a localized edit war over censorship spilled over onto the Administrator's Noticeboard finally ending up at Wikipedia's supreme judicial body ArbCom. Their ruling resulted in the admonishment of administrator Future Perfect at Sunrise for his involvement in the dispute. The story was reported by Wikipedia's venerable flagship newspaper The Signpost.
The question of whether to delete all portals--including the 27 Christianity-related portals--was put to the Wikipedia community. Approximately 400 editors have participated in the protracted discussion. Going by !votes, Oppose deletion has a distinct majority. The original Christianity Portal was created on November 5, 2005 by Brisvegas and the following year he successfully nominated the portal for Featured Portal. The Transhumanist has revived WikiProject Portals with hopes of revitalizing Wikipedia's system of 1,515 portals.
Stay up-to-date on the latest happenings at the Project
Achievements
Four articles in the Project were promoted to GA: Edict of Torda nom. by Borsoka, Jim Bakker nom. by LovelyGirl7, Ralph Abernathy nom. by Coffee and Psalm 84 nom. by Gerda_Arendt. The Psalm ends with "O Lord of hosts, blessed is the man that trusteth in thee." Words to live by. Please support our members and send some WikiLove to the nominators!
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"... that, shortly after being sentenced to death for treason, Ioan C. Filitti became manager of the National Theatre Bucharest?"
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Project news
By Lionelt
Here are discussions relevant to the Project:
- Liberty University has an RFC regarding the university's relationship with President Trump; see discussion
- Is Genesis History? has an RFC regarding acceptability of movie reviews for inclusion; see discussion
- discussion
The following articles need reviewers for GA-class:
. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.Stay up-to-date on the latest happenings at the Project
Did You Know
Nominated by Gonzonoir
... that in 1636, Phineas Hodson, Chancellor of York Minster, lost his 38-year-old wife Jane during the birth of the couple's 24th child?
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The Top 7 report
By Lionelt
The big news was the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. The Top 7
- Elizabeth I of England – legendary monarch who ushered in the Elizabethan Era over the dead body of her half-sister(#5)
- Henry VIII of England– on his deathbed the last words of the king who founded the English Reformation were "Monks! Monks! Monks!"
- Martin Luther King Jr. – can't wait to see the new US$5 bill featuring the "I Have a Dream" speech
- Seven deadly sins – surprisingly "original research" is not one of the Seven deadly sins
- Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC)
- Michael Curry (bishop) – our article says that he upstaged Meghan at her wedding. Did you see her wedding pictures? All I can say is {{dubious}}
- Robert F. Kennedy – when informed that missiles were being installed in Cuba he famously quipped, "Can they hit Oxford, Mississippi?"
Did you know
Nominated by The C of E
... that the little-known 1758 Methodist hymn "Sun of Unclouded Righteousness" asks God to send the doctrine of the "Unitarian fiend ... back to hell", referring to both Islam and Unitarianism?
Our newest Featured list
Nominated by
Polls conducted in 2012 across 20 countries found over 14% of people believe the world will end in their lifetime, with percentages raging from 6% of people in France to 22% in the US and Turkey. In the UK in 2015, the general public believed the likeliest cause would be
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- Louis XIV of France– a monarch of the House of Bourbon who reigned as King of France. He did say, "Every time I appoint someone to a vacant position, I make a hundred unhappy and one ungrateful."
- Elizabeth I of Englandin 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
- Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
- six marriages.
- Martin Luther King Jr. –" There are three urgent and indeed great problems that we face not only in the United States of America but all over the world today. That is the problem of racism, the problem of poverty and the problem of war."
- Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.
... that the first attempt to build the Holy Trinity Cathedral of the Alexander Nevsky Lavra resulted in the demolition of the nearly completed structure?
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- six marriages.
- Carthusian monk Lanspergiusfrom Spanish into Italian.
- Elizabeth I of Englandin 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
- Bob Dylan – American singer-songwriter, author, and visual artist. " Take care of all your memories. For you cannot relive them."
- Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
- Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.
... that The
When God Writes Your Love Story: The Ultimate Approach to Guy/Girl Relationships is a 1999 book by Eric and Leslie Ludy, an American married couple. After becoming a bestseller on the Christian book market, the book was republished in 2004 and then revised and expanded in 2009. It tells the story of the authors' first meeting, courtship, and marriage. The authors advise single people not to be physically or emotionally intimate with others, but to wait for the spouse that God has planned for them.
The book is divided into five sections and sixteen chapters. Each chapter is written from the perspective of one of the two authors; nine are by Eric, while Leslie wrote seven, as well as the introduction. The Ludys argue that one's love life should be both guided by and subordinate to one's relationship with God. Leslie writes that God offers new beginnings to formerly unchaste or sexually abused individuals.
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- Dolly Parton - an American singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer, actress, author, businesswoman, and humanitarian, known primarily for her work in country music.
Quotations related to Dolly Parton at Wikiquote: " I just depend on a lot of prayer and meditation. I believe that without God I am nobody, but that with God, I can do anything."
- Underground Railroads. During the American Civil War, she served as an armed scout, spy for the Union Army.
- six marriages.
- ... that Jesuitcollege established in the southern United States?
- ... that the ancient Jewish text of Perek Shirah asserts that spiders and rats praise God using verses from Psalm 150?
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Being a Ghost Story of Christmas, commonly known as A Christmas Carol, is a novella by Charles Dickens, first published in London by Chapman & Hall in 1843 and illustrated by John Leech. The book is divided into five chapters, which Dickens titled "staves". A Christmas Carol recounts the story of Ebenezer Scrooge, an elderly miser who is visited by the ghost of his former business partner Jacob Marley and the spirits of Christmas Past, Present and Yet to Come. After their visits, Scrooge is transformed into a kinder, gentler man. (more...)
“ | Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another. | ” |
Romans 12:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
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- Pope Benedict XVI – retired prelate of the Catholic Church who served as head of the Church and sovereign of the Vatican City State from 2005 until his resignation.
- Jesuit pope, the first from the Americas, the first from the Southern Hemisphere, and the first pope from outside Europe since the Syrian Gregory III, who reigned in the 8th century.
- Dolly Parton – an American singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer, actress, author, businesswoman, and humanitarian, known primarily for her work in country music.
Quotations related to Dolly Parton at Wikiquote: "I just depend on a lot of prayer and meditation. I believe that without God I am nobody, but that with God, I can do anything."
- ...that the All Saints Church, Henley Brook, the oldest church in Western Australia, held its first service almost eight years before it was consecrated?
- ...that the Virgin Mary?
- ...that the parish church of James Parkinson, after whom Parkinson's disease is named, was St Leonard's, Shoreditch, a church just outside the City of London and most famous for being one of the churches mentioned in the nursery rhyme "Oranges and Lemons"?
- ...that the Grand Patriarch of Constantinople?
![Сретение Господне ("The Meeting of the Lord"), a depiction of Simeon recognising Jesus at the Temple, from a fifteenth-century Novgorodskye School Russian icon.](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Sretenie.jpg/205px-Sretenie.jpg)
A Song for Simeon, is a 37-line poem written in 1928 by American-English poet
“ | May He grant you according to your heart’s desire, And fulfill all your purpose. | ” |
Psalm 20:4 New King James Version (NKJV)
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