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Radzymin - again...

Hi there, could you take a look at Grandiose's comments on copyright of photos you uploaded to commons here? I'm not an expert and I'm not sure what is it that he really want. //Halibutt 22:37, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I took a look at Staszic and did a quick ce, adding some {{who}} tags here and there. Sadly, I wouldn't feel comfortable assessing the article myself as I can't really tell much of the prose. Not a native speaker. //Halibutt 20:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
This horse never dies apparently. Would you mind?. I mean the question No. 2: "File:The_fighting_near_Radzymin.jpg: what steps have been taken to look for previous publication? Same for other images from that source". Any ideas? I must say I also liked the questions about the architect of the church depicted on one of the photos. //Halibutt 21:29, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

History of Poland (1569–1795)
+ History of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (various)

You appear to have left various split/merge tags on these pages. Do you intend to update these articles? Op47 (talk) 20:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm aware of the merge issues that have been raised. What keeps it from happening is that History of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (1764–1795), the third and last of the detailed History of Commonwealth series is not finished, as I'm being distracted by several other projects. May be I should prioritize this work to get the Commonwealth situation cleaned up. Orczar (talk) 22:34, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I've made new suggestions under
Talk:History of Poland in the Early Modern era. Orczar (talk
) 15:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

We miss you!

Piotrus: On behalf of WPPOLAND - we hope to see you back with us again one day!

Hopefully inside the next 5 days we launch a new website with the first of 5 printed booklets on anti-Polish sentiment. I planned to inform Wiki Polish editors encase they can use it. Jniech (talk) 22:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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Bias real or perceived?

Hello, I'm the anonymous editor that recently got involved in a coupe disputes regarding the editing style on a coupe of pages such as Haller's Blue Army and Poland Armed Forces. As a casual user of Wikipedia I was unsettled by editing which I consider as bias towards polish subject matter. When comparing pages on similar topics I noticed that the language used on pages related to a polish topics used much harder (judgmental) terms, and the phraseology used created a subtle, but clear bias towards Poles that presents them in a negative way.

One example was the recent Buckshot06 edits on Polish Armed Forces page, when I stumbled on this page there was only one picture in the "History" section, and it showed Polish soldiers in a diminutive way that only invited negative and stereoscopical perceptions. So, I added the current pictures which show the Polish military in a respectable, but neutral way. Now, user Buckshot06 is trying to remove them one at a time, by claiming that they have nothing to do with the text.

Another, editing issue that I'm involved in is that of American football coach Jerry Sandusky who was accused of child abuse. Sandusky himself is an American first... of mixed Polish and Irish descent. But, the page only mentioned his Polish roots omitting his Irish ancestry, and when his Irish ancestry was added, administrator Milowent was insistent on only highlighting Sandusky's Polish roots first, as if the man was 100% Polish. Please see the edits below to see how he keeps changing the page structure to highlight this, and in the most recent edit he locked the page despite the fact that no vandalism or edit warring took place.

1st edit: Sandusky was born in Washington, Pennsylvania, the only son of Evelyn Mae (née Lee) and Arthur Sandusky. His paternal grandparents were Polish immigrants and his mother came from a small coal-mining town.

2nd edit (neutral): Sandusky was born in Washington, Pennsylvania, the only son of Evelyn Mae (née Lee) an Irish Catholic homemaker who came from a small Pennsylvania coal-mining town, and Arthur Sandusky who's parents immigrated from Poland.

...and this is what the section was changed to (below). It seems strange how in this case someone wants too highlight the man's Polish root, even if it means that the structure of the text is moved in a incoherent way, since the earlier sections listed the mother first, than the father, and proceeded to list the father's accomplishments, Also, how many times is the editor going to try to use Poland or Polish in one sentence, it seems like he's trying to fill the page with this fact.

3rd edit: Sandusky was born in Washington, Pennsylvania, the only son of Arthur Sandusky, whose Polish parents had immigrated from Poland, and Evelyn Mae (née Lee) an Irish Catholic homemaker who came from a small Pennsylvania coal-mining town.

Now, since the page is locked, I'm not able to revert the changes, and I can't constantly argue with an administrator who clearly has more power to block IP's or lock pages. And, to prove my point of a bias, don't see any mention of Polish ancestry on pages related to other football players/coaches such as Mike Ditka, Don Majkowski, or Rob Gronkowski. Yet, in the case of child abuser Jerry Sandusky his polish background is highlighted and edited to maintain this bias. --76.118.227.161 (talk) 02:01, 4 December 2011

There's always the WP category for "Polish bank robbers". PЄTЄRS J VTALK 20:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

tb

Hello, Piotrus. You have new messages at Volunteer Marek's talk page.
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If you set up a questionnaire sandbox, I'll fill out. Best, PЄTЄRS J VTALK 19:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Never mind, added mine to the sandbox! PЄTЄRS J VTALK 20:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

guilt trippin'

Ay, with this [1] you're making me feel bad. I'll try to do some of these soon. One thing though that has turned me of is that the particular time period that is being dealt with - 18th century - is both one that I'm not all that familiar with and one that, relatedly, not that interested in.VolunteerMarek 00:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Billboard charts

I've thought of organizing the various charts into genres such as rock, country, dance, pop, etc. It would at the same time split

Alternative Songs
and
Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks. Take out #1 lists and/or the chart records trivia and they are little more than stubs. One of these days, I'll propose it to the Record Charts project group, but it would be something like Billboard rock charts, which I created in my user space. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk
) 22:57, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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Billboard charts

I've thought of organizing the various charts into genres such as rock, country, dance, pop, etc. It would at the same time split

Alternative Songs
and
Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks. Take out #1 lists and/or the chart records trivia and they are little more than stubs. One of these days, I'll propose it to the Record Charts project group, but it would be something like Billboard rock charts, which I created in my user space. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk
) 22:57, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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February meeting

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Saw your quotes

I was reading the University Times on-line and saw your quotes. Great job and thanks for taking a stand. CrazyPaco (talk) 00:23, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

WP Poland in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Poland for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 08:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed the info on the noticeboard and thought that - since you are probably the only wikipedian actively involved with WP:PL, there would be no better person than yourself. Certainly I'm not the one as technically speaking I'm not even a member :) //Halibutt 20:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, Piotr. I hope that you take the time to participate in the interview. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 06:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

You should also direct Vecrumba to the interview (if you haven't already). I don't know if he has listed himself as a project member, but he certainly contributes a good bit.VolunteerMarek 18:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I "promoted" myself to more active status. :-) PЄTЄRS J VTALK 19:18, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Okay, you won, I added my 2 groszes :) //Halibutt 23:14, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Maps

Hello again! I uploaded the finished files and you can see them at

the Map Workshop. As for File:Armia_krajowa_1.png it looks straightforward and can be done quickly, so send in the translations. By the way, I wonder if you could get Lonio17, the creator of these and many other excellent maps, to start doing them in SVG instead. SVG is infinitely more usable and modifiable, and learning the software should be an easy task for someone who already has the skill to produce such maps. Cheers! -- Orionisttalk
19:08, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Here are the the Armia Krajowa and second Berlin maps:
  • Armia krajowa
    Armia krajowa
  • 2nd Berlin map
    2nd Berlin map
I closed the Map Workshop request as "resolved" so there's no need to reply there. As for the Berlin defences map, I've already started working on it. I'm trying to overlay it on a map of the city to make it possible to add more useful details. The Z sector was very easy to figure out, while the second line traces several water bodies closely. I also found a decent map of Berlin in 1945 that shows the extent of the urban area, but if you have a good one and can find a detailed description of the lines it would greatly increase accuracy. Later, we'll be able to use this as a basis for other maps illustrating the battle inside Berlin. Cheers! -- Orionisttalk 05:33, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

WP:Poland interview

Czesc. When is the deadline for the interview? I would like to contribute, but until tomorrow evening I am kinda busy. - Darwinek (talk) 21:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Number of sejmiks

I checked a few books, but found only descriptions, not numbers. Orczar (talk) 14:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Seriously :)

Hi! What've I done? I've been a lazy sloth of late except Calais and a few jazz stubs.. Ja kitty looks quite spiteful..♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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Is created :-) CrazyPaco (talk) 11:28, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Note about deprod on article "Stencyl"

I have removed the {{

prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion
. Thanks!

Additionally, I have an open request for feedback (Wikipedia:Help_desk#Requesting_general_review_by_non-creator_for_new_article) if you have specific concerns about the article's content. I appreciate any feedback a senior editors such as yourself may have. Thanks. DotHectate (talk) 20:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. It's pretty much the same as what User:Captain_Screebo recommended on the help desk page so obviously moving some of the EL to references where appropriate is going to be higher on my to-do list. Thanks again. DotHectate (talk) 23:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue LXXI, February 2012

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We miss you! Update

The new version of the German Camps, Polish Victims website is now live. http://germancampspolishvictims.info/ It has the first of the associated booklets called “German camps, Polish Victims: The BBC coverage of German occupied Poland” available for free download. This 64 page booklet outlines what studying over 500 pages on the BBC website found.

If time please check out the site and download the booklet. Any comments on either would be appreciated. The booklet goes to the printer end of next week, so any comments on its content and format would be useful. Note: the cover is still missing due to it needing to be converted to PDF but I don’t have the software at present.

Perhaps the link to the web site could be added to Polish "Polish death camp" controversy or the Anti-Polish sentiment articles on Wiki Jniech (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

You said: Interesting project, I'll take a look. Have you considered releasing your content under a Wikipedia-compatible license?

This project is why I am not active on Wikipedia. Can you direct me to “Wikipedia-compatible license” details? I am happy for the material to be used on Wikipedia. Jniech (talk) 20:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not publish original research – Is not my booklet original research? Still can’t others use it? It is fully referenced and I am seen as an expert inside the Polish community e.g. my recent award. Jniech (talk) 22:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your reversion in Marx

I can't see the justification for your argument for reversion. In archive 9, arguments from both yourself and Itsmejudith indicate the section shouldn't be present. As such I've started a discussion on the talk page, please comment. Fifelfoo (talk) 23:18, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia Research Newsletter

Hi Piotrus, the draft for the upcoming (Feb 27) issue is here and your contributions would be most welcome! The list of papers to cover is here.

And thanks again for your work last time. BTW, I notified Greenstein and Zhu of the review of their paper and got a very nice reply.

Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 09:23, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I had indeed looked briefly at the "Sciencepaper" paper (haven't had another chance since then, though) and indeed the quality issues at least regarding the writing were obvious. But I thought that they might have something interesting to to say, at least in the sense that the paper contains information that would not otherwise be accessible to non-Chinese speakers. In any case, even bad papers should be covered in the research newsletter; this can save the reader a lot of time ;)
I have added several more papers (CSCW 2012 took place this month), two of which may interest you in particular: [2] (seems essentially a social sciences paper), and [3](slides - I see to recall you have also used Wikipedia in your teaching).
Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 02:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. I did not really see this as DYK material, since it is mostly a collection of lists of names. And I can't think of any tagline. I was more using it as a sort of "to do" checklist: see how many redlinks I could turn blue. But if you would care to submit it, I would be delighted. I think it is "clean" in the sense of being fully-sourced, having no copyright violations and having more than enough non-list text. :~) Aymatth2 (talk) 21:08, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Battle of Grunwald (painting)