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The result was delete. Clear consensus that the article fails notability guidelines at this point in time. TheSandDoctor Talk 00:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Youssef Chreiba

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promotional and non-notable (though I cannot evaluate adequate the Arabic references, they seem merely to reference matters that do not show notability ) DGG ( talk ) 23:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Widerberg (musician)

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No clear indication of notability. PepperBeast (talk) 21:49, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. There is strong policy-based consensus to keep.

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Anasuya Bharadwaj

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Subject is a non-notable TV presenter. Salimfadhley (talk) 21:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Ab207: @Veera Narayana: Invite these Telugu users to discussion.TamilMirchi (talk) 23:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
question - I confess, I am not familiar with this subject. My AfD nomination was based on the poor quality of sourcing. I could not find reliable, independent sources which significantly cover this subject. If they exist, let's add them to the article and then I can withdraw this AfD. --Salimfadhley (talk) 00:08, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Sources will be added. Kindly close the discussion.TamilMirchi (talk) 00:09, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Stray Bullet (1960 Mexican film)

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This film, tagged since March 2019, is basically an IMdB mirror. A

WP:NFILM, as it needs at least 2 reviews and none are to be found. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia...not a film database site. Donaldd23 (talk) 21:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:32, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Una Lettera dall'Africa

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This film has been tagged since May 2019, and is basically an IMdB mirror. A

WP:NFILM, as it needs at least 2 reviews and none are to be found. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia...not a film database site. Donaldd23 (talk) 21:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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http://www.archiviodelcinemaitaliano.it/index.php/scheda.html?codice=DC5796 https://www.mymovies.it/dizionario/recensione.asp?id=46504 https://patrimonio.archivioluce.com/luce-web/detail/IL3000017780/12/ripreso-leggermente-dal-basso-cartellone-pubblicitario-del-film-lettera-dall-africa.html?startPage=0 https://www.spettakolo.it/2018/06/24/crema-film-festival-i-edizione/ (still being screened at festivals today) http://senato.archivioluce.it/senato-luce/scheda/foto/IL3000017780/12/Ripreso-leggermente-dal-basso-il-cartellone-pubblicitario-del-film-Una-lettera-dallAfrica.html?start=12 https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=w19CDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq=Una+Lettera+dall%27Africa+1951&source=bl&ots=b-Ma3f9SlQ&sig=ACfU3U2qDN0ibXJQk7Zkoy37odYom2TVgA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiLw8DAsJ_sAhWwRBUIHaRvDk44FBDoATACegQIBRAB#v=onepage&q=Una%20Lettera%20dall'Africa%201951&f=false https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=AMcKAAAAMAAJ&q=Una+Lettera+dall%27Africa+1951&dq=Una+Lettera+dall%27Africa+1951&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjCv6uAsZ_sAhUSTxUIHbQdBbs4ChDoATAGegQIAxAB https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uW4s4n7Q5NIC&q=Una+Lettera+dall%27Africa+1951&dq=Una+Lettera+dall%27Africa+1951&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiR0JznsJ_sAhVFQxUIHTWJASUQ6AEwBnoECAQQAQ https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=I-tkAAAAMAAJ&q=Una+Lettera+dall%27Africa+1951&dq=Una+Lettera+dall%27Africa+1951&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiLgqfLsZ_sAhUdQRUIHZ3PA2A4HhDoATACegQICRAB

Keep Hits in enough sources even if not detailed. [7] was screened at the Venice Film Festival, huge poster there. That it's still being shown today in a notable film festival illustrates notability. †

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All of those links you listed are film database sites and passing mentions in books. No in-depth coverage, no reviews. And being shown at festivals do not establish notability. Have you read ]
To further comment, if an editor creates an article and someone comes along and tags it for notability, why do they not address it as soon as it happens? If one person questions its notability, another user is bound to come along and also question it and that editor might find nothing to help it pass the guidelines so they put it up for discussion, as I have done. If these films can be saved by adding something to pass
WP:NFILM then great. The notability tag gets removed, which is my goal. Not sure why so many people cannot understand that these articles are being sent for discussion because of a tag that someone else placed on the article. Boggles the mind that an author of an article will leave a notability tag for 10 years (as some of the articles that I have put up for discussion) without even once trying to address the issue. Donaldd23 (talk) 21:48, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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I get the impression that the nominator knows nothing about Italian cinema of the 1950s or Mexican cinema of the 1960s: the studios, distributors, magazines, directors, actors and so on. The nomination is not based on an informed view that a film such as this would not have been noted by the critics. It is purely based on the fact that the article has been tagged for some time and a cursory search does not show any online English sources. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:32, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And I get the impression that many editors want to keep articles for sentimental or ]
User:Encyclopædius has already added enough sources to demonstrate notability. The article can be improved as the old magazines come online. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:13, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to Ken Russell#Later career. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alice in Russialand

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Film tagged for notability since February. I couldn't find any reviews in a

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:44, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 60's Generation

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No significant coverage per

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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor Talk 00:08, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

John Friskillo

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non notable victim of a routine crime. The only continuing coverage is that one of the criminals, out on parole, committed a similar crime. That does not make the original victim notable DGG ( talk ) 02:10, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Radio personalities aren't all automatically notable just because they exist, so the fact that the death coverage mentions that he used to be a radio host is not in and of itself a mic drop in the absence of any notability-making career coverage while he was alive and working in radio — but the sources which actually predate his death are all either unreliable sources (Fold3, the self-published websites of directly affiliated organizations) or glancing namechecks of his existence in sources that are not about him in any substantive or non-trivial way. In determining whether somebody is notable as a radio host or not, we're not looking for short blurbs which technically verify facts — we're looking for sources that write about and analyze the significance of his work in detail, and no sources like that have been shown. If the strongest source you can actually show is a 20-word blurb in Billboard's "broadcasting employment notes" column, mentioning that he was program director of a radio station but not going into any further detail about that, then that's not enough. Bearcat (talk) 13:00, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Barely found anything about him aside from his death, an indication of ]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

David Lawler

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Fails

WP:ANYBIO. This article came through the Articles for Creation process so I hesitated to nominate it, even though it reads like a press release and indeed is sourced entirely to brief articles in newspapers and trade organs picking up BP press releases generated when Mr. Lawler rose to his present position. There is NO "significant coverage." I assume that if there was, the article creator, a BP public relations person, would have cited it. Perhaps someday BP public relations will work real hard and there will be significant coverage. Until then this article should be either deleted or merged into BP. Coretheapple (talk) 19:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete a non-notable engineer and businessman.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:37, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The CEO of BP has a BLP, but Lawler is the president of BLP America. There aren't many sources, and they don't say much. I can't find any independent RS (there may be one in the article but I can't read it). I thought Arturo at BP had agreed to stop writing drafts for BP, and to make suggestions on talk instead, but perhaps I misunderstood. The problem with his drafting BP bios is that he and/or his colleagues have helped to create the sources, most of which (all but one) appear to be based on BP press releases. If that is correct, this article would be BP's creation in just about every sense. SarahSV (talk) 02:10, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I worked at the BP article as well and was quite surprised to see that Arturo had submitted this article. As I said on my WP editor page years ago, one of my major concerns is that corporate America would find a way to weasel into controlling their WP articles. Best to not set a president here. Gandydancer (talk) 18:04, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:42, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of time and places in cases of Sherlock Holmes

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Listcruft and fails

WP:IINFO - article reads as original research and the list itself doesn't cite any sources. Even if improved with reliable sources, I don't see how this particular list merits Wikipedia inclusion. ~EdGl talk 18:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to

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I'm struggling to find any independent, reliable coverage for this organisation. Its notability seems to be confined to its involvement in a copyright infringement lawsuit, as described at

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kerala Police Academy

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no indication of notability for this police training school. No 3rd party sources DGG ( talk ) 17:33, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Justin Ross Lee

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pr for non notable career. Even though I would inrterpret much of what is said as negative from my POV, given the titles of the person's books, he thinks its good self-advertisement. Asf or the refs, NOT TABLOID. DGG ( talk ) 17:32, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 17:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Christopher Bauer

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Promotional page for an individual who lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources hence fails to satisfy

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The result was delete. There is consensus in favour of deleting this article at this time for failing to meet notability guidelines. TheSandDoctor Talk 00:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

James Holloway (actor)

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minor actor , according to the article itself , his 2 best known roles -- are a unnamed minor character in a series , and a partially named, but exceedingly minor character in another.. The refs are PR or mere notices, like the NY Times DGG ( talk ) 18:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. TheSandDoctor Talk 00:25, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Burke (lawyer)

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lawyer, with nothing notable about them, except one reference to participation in a peripheral matter of a major case, No other 3rd part Reliable sources for notability. I tried to draftify, but was reverted by the contibutor. DGG ( talk ) 16:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep. Closed per

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Community preference (EU)

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I start this discussion has the one that created the article in the first place following evidence that “Community preference” isn’t actually A principle or a legal requirement within the European Union. Now I neither support deletion or support further expand in the article however we need more information regarding community preference to see whether it is viable for it to have its own article or not. (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 20:51, 3 September 2020 (UTC))[reply]

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  • Comment. This AFD should be withdrawn or closed. The nom is not seeking deletion ("Now I neither support deletion or support further expand"), and AFD is for proposals for articles to be deleted. It would be better for them to open a discussion on the article's talk page, possibly soliciting input on one or both of the Wikiprojects that cover the article. If, after determining that deletion might be appropriate, they can restart the AFD.
Note, sometimes an AFD proposer is not certain that deletion is the right course, and there's nothing wrong with an AFD to cement a decision like that; but it's not helpful for purely exploratory discussions like this one. TJRC (talk) 15:54, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 17:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conan Altatis

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Non-notable filmmaker, failing

WP:NACTOR. See also the recent Googling that JoelleJay carried out and has documented at Talk:Conan Altatis. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Last minute reprieve, by the looks of it. Continued discussion of possible merger to be done on talk page, please.

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Nicole Saphier

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There is no RS coverage of this person, thus failing notability and also preventing us from building a proper page.

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The result was delete. Eddie891 Talk Work 18:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yogacharya K. B. Sahasrabudhe

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Article uncited for 11 years now. Nothing usable found on web, nor in index of any of a shelf of books on yoga as exercise. Subject seems not to be notable. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to

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article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject Bill Cipher, Stan, Twins, Dipper - Gravity falls and J.Smile 14:28, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment (undecided) - It is confirmed as an upcoming release in about two weeks and it will probably hit the Korean charts, like most of this group's other releases. Normally I would say "delete" because it is a future item, but the situation will surely change two weeks from now. We could just let it go and revisit the page later if the song somehow flops. DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 18:43, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per
    WP:NSONG. Technically we should redirect the title to the album or group until the song's release, at which point it will hit the charts or unexpectedly fail, either way generating the qualifying coverage for an article. But technically the nominator has not provided a valid rationale for deletion, since the topic of this article is a song, not a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble. Are kpop/jpop articles terrible? Yes. Are they a battleground for competing promoters and fans whose English language skills confine them to copy/pasting Google Translated press releases and appending entries to endless lists of tedious minutiae? Yes. Does A7 apply to songs? Regrettably, no. But this song will pass NSONG right around the time this AfD is over, meaning that even if is deleted here it will just be recreated. Indignant Flamingo (talk) 20:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Tone 08:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aruba–United States relations

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There have been several discussions which have concluded that foreign relations of entities that do not have a foreign policy are not notable. See e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Foreign relations of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands (after which Foreign relations of Aruba was deleted) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Netherlands Antilles–United States relations which concluded with a redirect to Netherlands–United States relations. The current page is extremely poor and unmaintained although it does mention that foreign affairs are conducted through the Dutch government. Its only reference is an archived page which also states that US consular activity in the Dutch Caribbean is actually conducted from Curaçao, not Aruba, and the page about that was already deleted after AfD.

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The result was delete. Editors are free to undelete for the purpose of transwiki if Wiktionary wants this content. Sandstein 16:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bahiraṅga

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Dictionary definition. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:08, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 08:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drew Ray Tanner

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Non notable actor, fails to satisfy general notability criteria and

WP:NACTOR. A google search returns with trivial mentions. The added sources fails to establish notability. The article was draftified but the author recreated it with the same material and also managed to remove proposed deletion without making improvements needed to determine notability. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 14:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Consensus is the coverage rises above BLP1E, and satisfies GNG. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ben Simons (politician)

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Does not meet

WP:BASIC. There is coverage, but it is local to Oregon. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 13:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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  1. "Small Oregon town elects first teenaged mayor". WNYT NewsChannel 13. 2018-11-09. Retrieved 2020-10-05. (Albany, New YorkY)
  2. "From high school graduate to small town mayor". www.kitv.com. Retrieved 2020-10-05. (Honolulu, Hawaii)
  3. McGowen, Jordan. "18 year-old Mayor elected in Oregon". WILX.com. Retrieved 2020-10-05. (Lansing, Michigan)
  4. Boston, Alysen; Editorial Board (Nov 16, 2018). "Our View: Qualifications, not age, should be criteria for public office". Moscow-Pullman Daily News. Retrieved 2020-10-05. (Moscow, Idaho)
  5. Associated Press (November 11, 2018). "Oregon teen mayor: People can serve no matter their age". The Washington Times. Retrieved 2020-10-05. (Washington, DC).
Delete His age is a curiosity but part-time officials in very small towns are generally not notable from routine coverage. A merge to Yoncalla, Oregon may be appropriate. Reywas92Talk 04:35, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd be fine with adding this information to the Yoncalla article and that is probably the correct result. The local news station article on a local mayor, which is the "first year in office" article, wouldn't be enough for him to have a standalone article given how we treat local American mayors, especially of small towns such as this one. He's still not really eligible for a standalone article (in spite of the ARS !votes below) as all of the coverage is a one-off or hyper-local but I think this would be well suited for the town article. SportingFlyer T·C 22:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    As nom, I'd also support a selective merge to Yoncalla, Oregon. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 22:53, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 17:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Capital C Corporation

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Startup company, had first round of financing in late 2018, does not meet

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Author now blocked as a sock  Velella  Velella Talk   20:11, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 08:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jagat Singh (raja of Isarda)

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Royal genealogical entry and no sources provided to indicate otherwise. He was born in post-independence India and so was always only a titular Raja (King) as the princely states had been abolished by the time he came to the throne. All the books listed in the ref section are about his mother

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The result was delete. Tone 08:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sahasavanthudu

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Film tagged for notability since January 2018. Nothing found in a

WP:NFILM, but has many notable actors. Can we get a consensus? Thanks. Donaldd23 (talk) 12:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Garmiani

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Non-notable BLP article, with questionable sourcing. Salimfadhley (talk) 12:39, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete this article Garmiani, because it clearly shows that the person is not suitable for Wikipedia article — Preceding Pakmusicana comment added by Pakmusicana (talkcontribs) 10:25, 7 October 2020 (UTC) struck vote by sockpuppet of Saqlain Malek. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Saqlain Malek.[reply]

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The result was redirect to

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Okay, it's a song by Queen, but not nearly enough in-depth coverage from reliable sources to meet WP:GNG, and clearly doesn't meet WP:NSONG. Onel5969 TT me 12:22, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 08:17, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Charlotte Pourret Wythe

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Child actor, who was the replacement on stage for a significant role, but that has been their only significant role, so does not meet

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  • Hmmm. I'm not clear on which role the nom refers to as significant and which they claim were not significant. This young actor has been performing steadily in professional theatre, including in the West End and national tours, since she was eight years old, and now she has appeared in at least two West End shows, an off-West End show, a long-running national tour and numerous pantomimes. So, which roles were not "significant"? -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:01, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 09:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shahab Khan (Actor)

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Non-notable actor.

WP:NACTOR, and his name has been added to multiple articles, repeatedly, by a plethora of sockpuppets, so there is clearly a promotional effort going on. This article was moved to draftspace but then moved back by the article creator despite the total lack of sources. bonadea contributions talk 09:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Comment: Imarmaan is employed by Shahab Khan to promote him. This is not the first account created for that purpose – see
WP:V
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Unfortunately, this is a systemic and very wide-ranging problem.
rant about the systemic issues

Take Adaalat as an example – a series with more than 450 episodes where Khan appeared in one episode (according to IMDb), but he was added to the longish and unsourced list of "recurring" roles. The list of "episodic" roles, presumably meaning people who appeared in one episode, is huge and sprawling and also unsourced – so what ought to be done there and in many, many other articles is to go through it and cut every name that is not supported by an independent source. I did remove Khan's name from that article, but the same issue comes up in almost every article where Khan's name has been added, and it is not a satisfactory solution to just remove that name when there are others, maybe dozens of others, that are probably equally inappropriate. It is not strange perhaps that Khan's PR agency keeps spamming his name, when so many other names are spammed.

This does make it very clear that Khan is not notable per
WP:GNG though, so there is that. --bonadea contributions talk 11:33, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Tone 08:17, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rothschild Memorial Archway

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does not appear to be significantly notable in its own right--mentions only, anf a mere listing at the unviesity site. There are available merges. DGG ( talk ) 08:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 09:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kalakari film festival

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Pure promo of a non notable film festival that fails

WP:GNG. Sources added mention the subject trivially. Faizal batliwala (talk) 08:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to Affinity (band). Eddie891 Talk Work 12:19, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

1971–1972

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Appears to fail

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The result was redirect to

WP:NBAND, and that Carrie Bradley is the best redirect-target. The existing contents of the article should not be merged without providing adequate sourcing. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 09:42, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Ive just given a reliable source, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 16:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Launch CD no. 46

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Fails

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You're right. I'd intended to change my vote after taking a look at
Launch Media, but must have forgotten to do so. DELETE per nomination and per the above comment. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 10:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Subject to Change: Artists for a Hate-Free America

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The result was delete. Tone 17:09, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

9xdead

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  • Delete Non-notable band. The sourcing in the article is trash. The "Metal Hammer - Louder" page takes you to the homepage of the site so that's crossed out. The rest of the presented sources are concert sites, social media and databases. The same sources are found in a Google search. So I did not found any reliable sources. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 09:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Article does not meet GNG or NBAND   // Timothy :: talk  13:04, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 17:09, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

.5 Honkey/Wreckage + Ruin + & + Regrets + (Redemption)

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The result was redirect to List of Hellblazer characters#Ritchie Simpson. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:17, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ritchie Simpson

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I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing

WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar." It was deprodded by User:Andrew Davidson with copypaste rationale (despite the fact that I explicitly asked for a proper rationale in the PROD). So here we go, as usual. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Tone 17:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mahalakshmi (Tamil actress)

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Non notable actress who lacks in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources hence fails

WP:NACTOR is also not satisfied as she doesn’t feature in lead role characters. Celestina007 (talk) 17:06, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to Nasty woman#"Nasty Woman" Apparel. TheSandDoctor Talk 00:39, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Amanda Brinkman

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Potentially controversial, but this should be redirected to

WP:NBIO, non-notable outside of her association with Nasty woman. Eddie891 Talk Work 19:20, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The WIRED article is an interview presented by Salesforce, meaning that it is of doubtful significance (likely reliable, but I don't think it's a good indication of significance. All it tells us is that she works at a small company and hosts a non-notable tv show). The other article is local coverage, again not really indicative of significance. Also how did you determine that this is the same Brinkman? Our article doesn't mention 'deluxe' or 'Small Business Revolution' once. Also, where do you see this 'wide quoting' in the press? I saw little indication of that and even if that was true, how does it meet our notability standards? Eddie891 Talk Work 23:53, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict above): Coverage of 'Small Business Revolution' is essentially limited to local publications except for a short fox news article. And regardless, this would go to establishing the shows notability before it made her notable. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:55, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. A google search proves it is is the same person. I can appreciate that you are trying to discount the sources, but to me it is plain that she is widely mentioned in the press. Other examples include this California paper, this Buffalo TV station and this Fox 12 Oregon segment. ]
I'm afraid that A google search proves it is is the same person. just doesn't convince me whatsoever. In fact, a google search proves to me that they are definitely not the same person. See, for instance, this linkedin profile, that of the subject of this article. In what I can see, there is a section that says "other people named Amanda Brinkman", which holds the profile of the other Amanda you have been talking about. Apologies if I've absolutely messed up here, but you seem to have conflated two different people. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 00:20, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Withdrawn. Consensus is clearly going against me, and it's been open for about three weeks, so might as well withdraw it.

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State Historical Society says "Needmore is the name of a store." 1956 topo calls it Needmore Church; the GNIS entry is pulled from a Corps of Engineers pamphlet, not any topos. I'm awaiting a response to my request for Newspapers.com access through

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The result was delete. Tone 17:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ivy, Missouri

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State Historical Society calls it a store. The topos never show Ivy until 2011, when things got copied over from GNIS. All pre-GNIS topos label Ivy as "West Union Church". Google Maps shows a Missionary Baptist church named West Union at the site. I've applied for newspapers.com access through

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Delete. No evidence that it was a community and whatever else it might be, does not meet basic threshold for notability. Glendoremus (talk) 02:09, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 17:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Swan Lake (Martins)

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For those who don't know how Swan Lake works: most versions we see today shares similar choreography, especially the two lead dancers' parts, but choreographer / stagers can add some of their own choreography and make an alternate ending.

George Balanchine's version and Matthew Bourne's version have their own pages because they are significantly different from the classical version (I intend to rewrite / expand / cleanup the Balanchine version page at some point) I don't see why should the Martins staging have its own article as most of the information is covered on Swan Lake#Alternative endings and List of productions of Swan Lake derived from its 1895 revival, and as far as I can tell, it's a version of the classical ballet.

And on the cast list of this article, it is impossible to record all of them as there are many revivals with a number of casts each run, and injuries can always alter the cast. Several lists of ballet casts are deleted after I nominated them. Corachow (talk) 14:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Since most people qualified their views as "weak", I don't think either side had the upper hand. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Crossed Out

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Non-notable band. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 18:12, 18 September 2020 (UTC) Powerviolence band from Encinitas, California. Despite their "legendary" status (and they are quite awesome, might I add, along with the genre itself - despite the rather stupid name of the genre in my opinion) I couldn't find anything reliable, just the usual junk like databases, streaming service links, download sites, playlists (including the one included in the article), youtube videos and trivial mentions (they are mostly mentioned in the context of the powerviolence genre). I have found some album reviews but they are featured on sites of dubious reliability, including the ones that are already cited in the article. Just because they are mentioned among other names in the context of this genre, does not make them notable. But prove me wrong. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 18:10, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak delete per nom. Agree that they are somewhat legendary, as far as that goes, but there's no way that enough RS are going to be found in 10-12 Google pages... I'm mostly ok with the existing refs, aside from the blog, but they're not much. Caro7200 (talk) 19:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep WP:CREATIVE for their contributions to a genre Wm335td (talk) 21:51, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete due to the lack of multiple in-depth reliable sources. Although they do seem to important to the genre of "powerviolence" it's not clear exactly how much because the few sources that claim it are either other bands or a person saying that someone else said they were. Which doesn't really pass WP:CREATIVE IMO. Since reputable sources still have to discuss their influence, preferably in an in-depth way, and it can't be based on a game of telephone or what other bands have said about them. --Adamant1 (talk) 07:46, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Barbara Gilewska

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The article does not meet GNG, BASIC or NACTOR.   // Timothy :: talk  02:48, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete I cannot find any RS that cover her in depth. There are some mentions in Google books but only passing in cast lists. It's possible that there is coverage in non-digitized Polish print sources from when she was alive, but I can't support keeping an article for which the GNG-providing sources are purely hypothetical. (This appears to have been translated from plwiki which likely has different notability guidelines). (t · c) buidhe 09:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I would like to offer a different rationale. The mentions in Gbooks show a short if sustained career in the industry. These very early actors weren't documented very wheel, particularly if they bit-part actors and they were working-class. Only the star in general were feted and subsequently documented. Most of the stars are now in Wikipedia and editors are turning to less well know. There is consensus I think, particularly at Afc/NPP that these very early stage actors are notable. scope_creepTalk 09:50, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, an article cannot be kept based off the belief that sources might exist.
    Wikipedia does not exist to right great wrongs. Devonian Wombat (talk) 11:40, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Misciting RGW is not a useful argument, that piece is largely satirical. Montanabw(talk) 17:32, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Devonian Wombat is citing Wikipedia:Tendentious editing, which definitely isn't intended to be satirical. Either way, their point holds: "this obviously must be notable" is not a policy-based reason to keep an article that does not verifiably demonstrate notability. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs talk 19:38, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This is an article of historical interest. There was no internet when she died in 1986. I am sure that if anyone has access to the Polish press of that period, they would find all the necessary source.--Ipigott (talk) 17:01, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Clearly another example of a notable individual who doesn't "google." The internet was in its infancy (see ARPANET) when she died, but there are news sources from the time, probably not in English. Also, as there was a copyvio issue with the article earlier on, some material used may have been deleted and is not currently visible. Montanabw(talk) 17:23, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The world exists beyond the English version of Google. -Yupik (talk) 22:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment: I posted to Wikiprojects Poland talk page and Wikiproject Film asking if anyone could help locate any sources. I will also search again.   // Timothy :: talk  19:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. I really would like to solve it but I don't see any sources outside few mentions in passing. She might be mentioned in this pre-war publication but I don't know how to open djvu files I am getting. She has an entry in this online Polish theatre encyclopedia but it seems just a wikidata style entry (but the site is reliable maintained by a gov't institution
    National Film School in Łódź: [18] Few pictures at [19] and [20] which are also maintained by government agencies. I cannot find anything other than a passing mentioned in book / journal sources, but plenty of old Polish sources are not digitized or indexed properly. This is borderline, but when I think we keep one-sentence sport-bio entries because they meet some game-played criteria based on a single game record or such... eh, she played in few old movies too and is as notable as many minor players we have substubs on, probably more given her inclusion in the cited databases including that threatre encyclopedia. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:38, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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    Piotrus, I checked the source you mentioned [21] (I think any browser with support for HTML5 should open it). She is listed as a cast member on pp.10 and 14 and her photo is on page 14, but no details.   // Timothy :: talk  17:20, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I still haven't been able to find any sources. I checked Polish Cinema: A History by Marek Haltof and found nothing about her (two of her films are listed, but without details and no mention of her).   // Timothy :: talk  17:10, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The sole Keep !vote does not seem to cite specific policy/guideline on why the article is notable, and is specifically rebuffed. As such, notability does not appear to be demonstrated Nosebagbear (talk) 10:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Almon, Missouri

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I don't think this place passes

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The result was delete. Consensus that notability is not shown Nosebagbear (talk) 10:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tumi Aru Moi

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Non-notable film, and no significant coverage in any of the independent and reliable sources for the film, no reviews about the film from notable critics. Fails

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The result was keep. Tone 17:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Slavica Ecclestone

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I do not see how this justifies a separate article. notability is not inherited -- even if it comes with a L 740 million settlement. DGG ( talk ) 09:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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the rule that deals with the situation is NOT TABLOID. DGG ( talk ) 06:05, 3 October 2020 (UTC)`[reply]
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  • Keep - NOTINHERITED means that someone isn't just directly notable for someone else's notability. It doesn't mean that if their coverage (and the actions that sparked that coverage) came about because of another, that they too are waived. Plenty of coverage on Slavica specifically. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:06, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Hackintosh. Sandstein 19:19, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ryzentosh

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Non-notable neologism. All (well, two) sources are in German language. Couldn't find reliable sources with the term mentioned. Purplneon486 (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Consensus that he doesn't meet any of the relevant biographical notability criteria Nosebagbear (talk) 10:03, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Frishberg

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I'm not convinced that this gentleman meets Wikipedia's criteria for a biographical article. —S Marshall T/C 22:56, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:03, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Full Moon Flashlight

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The result was delete. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:02, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Invisible Tape

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The result was delete. Consensus of not meeting NALBUM Nosebagbear (talk) 10:02, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wide Awake Drunk

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The result was delete. Consensus that notability doesn't seem currently established, and a draftify consideration was specifically opposed. As always, should the subject change and notability become more establishable in the future, a request for a draft can be made at that point Nosebagbear (talk) 10:01, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nama-i haftegi-i kuhistan

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The article does not meet

WP:NJOURNALS. The three references in the article are identical and the two external links go the same site, one to the home page with no info on the journal and one which contains a digital version of the publication.   // Timothy :: talk  22:35, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Noting the BLP concerns. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 05:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Saavedra

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I question whether this journalist meets Wikipedia's notabilty criteria. Especially because this short bio mostly consists of incidents of his incompetence or unethical behavior. It might technically qualify as an attack page. There is also a chance that RMSdw, who is edit-warring on this article, is Ryan Saavedra from the Daily Wire who, along with RMSWA90, has only edited this one page. [Liz Read! Talk! 03:15, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I think the Two WaPo pieces, a CNN piece and in-depth Mediaite piece (which describes him as influential) are sufficient in terms of pointing to notability, but I don't have particularly strong feelings about it. ]
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WP:OUTING and I would suggest excising that portion of your comment. I just don't see how it's pertinent, frankly. Coretheapple (talk) 22:17, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Coretheapple Yeah, I agree. I'll get rid of it. Dosafrog (talk) 04:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Radio Free Roscoe. Consensus of no independent notability Nosebagbear (talk) 10:00, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Radio Free Roscoe, Volume 1

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Article about a television soundtrack album, referenced exclusively to its own liner notes with no evidence of any

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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Radio Free Roscoe: Season One – Greatest Hits

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Completely unsourced article about a television DVD, making no claim of notability except that it exists. Given the inappropriate external links to purchase pages on Amazon and Video Service Corp, I suspect that the purpose of this was to drive sales more than anything else -- but that makes them

reliable source coverage about it in media to establish its notability, not just technical verification from online video stores, to qualify for a standalone Wikipedia article as a separate topic from the series as a whole. Bearcat (talk) 02:52, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was redirect to List of Radio Free Roscoe episodes. Sandstein 16:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the Key of F

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Two completely unsourced articles about individual episodes of a television series, written entirely in-universe and featuring no real-world context (critical reaction, etc.) to establish the standalone notability of the episodes. As always, individual episodes don't automatically get standalone articles just because they exist -- they need to be the subject of

reliable source coverage about the episode to warrant being covered separately from the series as a whole. And for a series which produced 52 episodes overall, there's no immediately apparent reason why these two would somehow be uniquely more notable than the other 50, either. Bearcat (talk) 02:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete. Based on

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Plymouth Rock Comedy Festival

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Comedy festival that took place two years (2010 and 2011). 2012 and later editions never happened, per website. The one article in a reliable source, from the Boston Globe, isn't so much about the festival as an award being given ([24]). No

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:44, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ismaila Alfa

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WP:GNG. As always, local radio hosts do not get an "inherent" notability freebie just for existing as radio hosts -- he needs either a stronger notability claim (e.g. noteworthy awards or hosting a national show) or considerably more sourcing than this before he qualifies to have his own biographical article as a separate topic from the show. I'd just redirect this back to the show myself, but I'm not interested in getting into an editwar with the other editor (who's very likely to spark one if they are who they're suspected of being) without backup. Bearcat (talk) 00:16, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Him, not her. Just FYI. Bearcat (talk) 16:56, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Although limited participation the quality of the discussion is high with well argued delete arguments that have been tested

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Stephen Quinn (broadcaster)

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WP:ANYBIO (as witness the fact that there are no sources indicating when he won it, or what piece or pieces of work he won it for). And of the nine footnotes, one is just a redundant repetition of one of the others, so there are really only eight sources -- but of those eight, three come from his own employer and one comes from a university j-school magazine, none of which are notability-making sources, and the four that are okay are all just same-day coverage of the initial announcement of his hiring for his job, with no evidence of ongoing coverage about his work in the job. This is not enough sourcing to make a single-station local radio host notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia. Bearcat (talk) 00:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Firstly, Category:CBC Radio hosts is filled with hosts of national CBC Radio programming, not hosts of the local morning or afternoon shows in every individual city where the CBC airs local morning or afternoon shows — and no, for the purposes of passing our notability requirements for broadcasters, we don't reify local hosts into national hosts just because radio stations have web streams now.
And when it comes to the sources, you're not really building the case you think you are. From the Vancouver Sun, you've provided the initial announcement of his hiring and a blurb which just namechecks his existence as the moderator of an upcoming panel discussion — but we're looking for sources that are substantively about him, not sources that just mention him in the process of being about something else. From the Globe and Mail, you provided the initial announcement of his hiring and two links where he's not the subject of the pieces but the bylined author of them — but a person doesn't get an article by being the author of coverage of other things, he gets an article by being the subject of coverage written by other people. From the Georgia Straight, you've provided (yet again) the initial announcement of his hiring and the fact that he once won a category in its "Best of Local Stuff" reader poll — but local alt-weekly reader polls aren't notability-clinching awards in and of themselves. And when it comes to journalists, yes, we do consider coverage from the person's own employer to be less valuable than coverage from external sources — it's not a question of whether the CBC is reliable or not, it's a question of whether the CBC is independent of the subject or not. And even the context in which that CBC link exists — "woot woot, our employee was named in a listicle of prominent local figures in a local interest magazine" — still isn't a notability-securing context.
So in reality, all you've really shown that speaks to notability is a multiheaded
WP:BLP1E blip of "person gets hired for job" pieces the day his hiring was announced, and nothing else that actually builds notability at all. Bearcat (talk) 12:40, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply
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Bearcat, I am genuinely curious. Did you even click on the category link before making that statement that you have made above? Ktin (talk) 03:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I actually work with it on a regular basis, because Canadian media (broadcasting, literature and film) is literally my primary editing area on here. I will grant that CBC Radio has had a fair number of employees who crossed the local-vs-national distinction by having had local roles at one time in their career and national ones at another — people can Matt Galloway it by hosting a local show for years and then going national, and people can Jeff Douglas it by hosting a national show for years and then deciding to move on to one of the local shows because they're tired of the pace of life in Toronto and want to move back to a smaller city again. But if a person has crossed that divide, then their basis for notability is the national hosting gig, not the local one — and there are also sometimes cases where a person who has only been a local host and thus is not strictly notable as a broadcaster per se also has some other claim of notability besides broadcasting, such as writing (Waub Rice) or politics (Joann Roberts) or receiving the Order of Canada (Andy Barrie). But we don't deem local radio hosts notable for being local radio hosts per se — we do sometimes have articles about people who have other notability claims and then oh by the way were also local CBC Radio hosts at some point in their career, but that's not the same thing as deeming them notable because of the local CBC hosting gig per se. Bearcat (talk) 12:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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