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The result was delete. North America1000 10:16, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The NewsMarket

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Limited coverage, fails

WP:NWEB. Störm (talk) 05:23, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete agree with nom. - Jacobz1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:17, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I'd suggest merging into the parent but that now seems to be DMA Media and we don't have an article on them. I get the impression that this scene is too fast moving for us to keep up with and so we should wait until the process of consolidation and pivoting settles down. Andrew D. (talk) 09:42, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Per nom and per above. Barca (talk) 12:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability, topic fails GNG and
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The result was keep. Clear "Keep" consensus based on the principle of the article passing the

(non-admin closure) AmericanAir88(talk) 23:39, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Terrence Parker

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I can't find any evidence that the "top 20" claim of charting was anywhere meaningful and I can find almost nothing in the way of actual in depth, meaningful coverage or anything else that would otherwise meet

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The result was redirect to Ma and Pa Kettle. Clear consensus to redirect. Just Chilling (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cape Flattery (Ma and Pa Kettle)

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Unnotable film series location. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:01, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect 454 people saw this article in the past 90 days. Just redirect it to Ma and Pa Kettle. Dream Focus 05:21, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect as it is a viable search term that is already present in the parent article. Aoba47 (talk) 02:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Ma and Pa Kettle. Non-notable on its own, but can serve as a logical redirect to the show's main article. Rorshacma (talk) 15:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect no reference at all. Not notable to have it's own article.
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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 23:24, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 International Championship of High School A Cappella

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PROD removed by creator. Unreferenced and fails

WP:INDISCRIMINATE and Wikipedia is not a webhost. SportingFlyer T·C 21:55, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Additional sources have been produced since nomination and I am now seeing a 'keep' consensus. Just Chilling (talk) 23:15, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jacqueline Saphra

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reliable sources: the notability test for writers is not the things the article says, but the depth and quality of the referencing that the article uses to support the things it says. But the only references here are her self-written biographical blurbs on the self-published websites of directly affiliated organizations and events, not reliable or independent or notability-supporting media coverage. None of these sources cut it as evidence of notability, and the article claims nothing about her that's "inherently" notable enough to exempt the sources from having to cut it as evidence of notability. Bearcat (talk) 20:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep I am seeing some good coverage in GNews:
It's not enough for WP:AUTHOR, but it is enough for GNG.
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The result was delete. Consensus that this party fails our notability guidelines. Just Chilling (talk) 23:10, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Artsakh Conservative Party

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Fails

WP:GNG AmericanAir88(talk) 20:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was merge to

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Roscommon Hospital Action Committee

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It seems like this article should at best be a section in Roscommon University Hospital. This organization has hyperlocal notability - basically a group opposing a single hospital's administration. Toddst1 (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep The organisation has attracted national level coverage in mainstream media over a five year period. Mccapra (talk) 22:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect. Keep the title. But summarise and merge the content to sit as a section of
    newsy" nature of the content in the organisation's article. (We seem to have represented every news headline associated with the organisation as a line in the article. When, perhaps, this is overkill, and each of the protests, some of which were years ago and a few days apart could be covered in one line). Otherwise I would note that there are hospital action groups associated with any number of hospitals. 6 or 7 in Ireland alone that I can think of. And hundreds if not thousands worldwide. These organisations occasionally each receive some coverage. But their notability (and that coverage) doesn't really stand independent of the associated hospital. And so I don't see that such groups (like this one) are notable enough for their own independent articles... Anyway, merge and redirect would seem the most appropriate action to me. Guliolopez (talk) 12:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Merge and redirect per
    WP:FORK. Bearian (talk) 16:42, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Merge and redirect per Guliolopez. Spleodrach (talk) 05:58, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect per Guliolopez and others. The topic itself does not seem notable enough to have its own article.
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  • Merge and redirect. I don't see much coverage in reliable sources.
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The result was delete. Clear consensus that the subject fail notability guidelines. Just Chilling (talk) 23:17, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher C. Lee

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Fails

WP:SALTing. GPL93 (talk) 19:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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No credible sign of notability. That problem aside. . . .
Let me quote the version of 3 February 2019, at 01:37 (and therefore before deletion at AfD):
Christopher C. Lee was born to Taiwanese parents, Jeff Lee and Ai-Ling Tracy Chuang, in San Jose, California. His parents immigrated to California from Taipei, Taiwan and lived in Fremont during his childhood.
He began to develop an interest in various forms of artistry and was heavily involved in
hip hop. He immersed himself into streetwear, graffiti and urban culture through exposure to underground artist exhibitions and fashion shows. He conversed with Haight Street, San Francisco artists and designers to gain more knowledge. Growing up in his teenage years, he was known for being a polymath
. He excelled in many topics such as physics, mathematics, philosophy, dance, fashion design, computer science, photography, cinematography, business and marketing.
By contrast (or not), here's the current version:
Christopher C. Lee was born to Taiwanese parents, Jeff Lee and Ai-Ling Tracy Chuang, in San Jose, California. His parents immigrated to California from Taipei, Taiwan and lived in Fremont during his childhood.
He began to develop an interest in various forms of artistry and was heavily involved in
hip hop. He immersed himself into streetwear, graffiti and urban culture through exposure to underground artist exhibitions and fashion shows. He conversed with Haight Street, San Francisco artists and designers to gain more knowledge. Growing up in his teenage years, he was known for being a polymath
. He excelled in many topics such as physics, mathematics, philosophy, dance, fashion design, computer science, photography, cinematography, business and marketing.
(From which I've removed one reference, to a book by the biographee and self-published via Blurb, Inc..)
Therefore yes, this qualifies for deletion as an improper re-creation or as a creation by a blocked user. The article was re-created by Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alexkia1399 and I imagine that it will be re-re-created by some other sockpuppet if not salted. -- Hoary (talk) 08:16, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
PS In the wordy message immediately above, I forgot to emboldify the important bits. So here you go: Delete and salt. -- Hoary (talk) 13:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Adding these two sources is the same edit that has been persistently added to the article by numerous IPs over the past few days. Neihter help with notability. The first source is a Yahoo republication of an AccessWire press release, so not RS. The Forbes source is one sentence: "Photomochi, founded by Christopher C. Lee, is one such agency that deals with the impact of how visual media today can quickly and succinctly capture an entire message within a single frame or a short film." This editor has a lot of similar interests as the other IP editors adding the same material to the page.
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  • Delete Non notable subject. Don't have enough coverage to include in wikipedia. Zinzhanglee (talk) 15:49, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus is that this topic doesn't meet the notability guideline. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 19:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Interaction Styles

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The only sources documenting the Interaction Styles scheme itself appear to originate with Linda V. Berens or the Temperament Research Institute. Would need citations to reliable third-party sources to demonstrate notability. Unclear that this scheme is based on any actual research as opposed to just a framework to support a commercial enterprise; MBTIs themselves have been challenged as invalid, and this is a derivation of a derivation of that. -- Beland (talk) 19:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete this article looks as if it exists to promoted the author's work. It also contains a large amount of original academic-style research. A search for sources leads mostly to the Berens web site. (n.b. There is also a conflicting concept in the field of computer programming that deals with how people interact with computers. There are many more sources for that than there are for this model.) I would have to say GNG fail.
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  • Delete - as per nom and ThatMontrealIP. No evidence of independent notability.Onel5969 TT me 13:35, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Consensus that the subject fails

WP:NSONG. Just Chilling (talk) 18:18, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The Hook Up Song

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Unnecessary seperate article for a song from the movie Student of the Year 2. -- CptViraj (📧) 17:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to Student of the Year 2 as it lacks enough coverage for an independent article, but it could be a valid search term. Aoba47 (talk) 18:59, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The song isn't any special that it may require any Wikipedia page. — Preceding
    talk • contribs) 07:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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delete, the song isn't remarkable at all

@CptViraj: Explain "Unnecessary". Guidelines approves this. IRIEN✓ (aka MAh'ia)🙏 12:01, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete I couldnt find any notable awards won by the song. It is to be noted that India doesnt have chart(ing) system, but this song doesnt stand out at all; and there isnt enough
    WP:NSONG as well. Even though redirects are cheap, it wouldnt make any sense "hook up song" redirecting to the film. Hence no redirect needed either. —usernamekiran(talk) 12:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete: fails NSONG. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:54, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Article is well modified meeting
    AfD. [reply
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Not really. It does not meet any of the 3 criteria of
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The result was delete. Clear consensus that this list fails notability guidelines. Just Chilling (talk) 17:19, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

List of recurring Mario franchise enemies

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Nominated per the suggestion of participants in the Zelda enemies AfD. The list fails

Piranha plant, to prevent recreation if the article is deleted. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete but Merge relevant content to - most likely -
    Mushroom Kingdom. Referencing the Zelda enemy AFD, we had Universe_of_The_Legend_of_Zelda#Creatures that would be an appropriate replacement for a list. I don't see a "Universe" article for Mario, but Mushroom Kingdom sufficiently covers it (and yes, I know there are some games that don't take place in it proper, but we're not Wikia, that's a trivial issue). That allows keeping brief one-two lines about various enemies, keep blue links to the notable ones, but cuts out the weight of in-universe descriptions. That type of list can then at least to be sourced to strategy guides or the like. --Masem (t) 17:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete - Wikia cruft, not independently notable. Sergecross73 msg me 17:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete.
    WP:GAMECRUFT. Ajf773 (talk) 20:11, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per above. Aoba47 (talk) 20:38, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete but merge relevant content per Masem. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:51, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - per Sergecross73; notability independent of the subject is not established. Take what's relevant to other articles and conduct a deletion - not a plausible redirect nor is the history valuable if the subject will only ever be in-universe, so an alternative to deletion is not practical here. Red Phoenix talk 15:07, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Per nominator. Barca (talk) 15:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect for edit history and links to items within the list. The list of recurring Zelda enemies was also redirected in the same vain. Utopes (talk) 23:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, I see that somebody has undone the redirect at the Zelda article and the is being nominated for deletion. I couldn't care less there. But here, as somebody who had put in effort to clean up the article as best that I could, I can't support a full deletion of this article. I would rather redirect and protect it, as I do know that there are links to individual subheaders of the article. Merge at the least. Utopes (talk) 23:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • But why? Not to be mean, but “I put a lot of work into it” isn’t a valid rationale for a merge/redirect, nor is anything else you said. Sergecross73 msg me 00:33, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • You can also continue said work at a fan Wiki if you so wish. That has no bearing on whether it should be here.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:39, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • You can do all of that without user userfying though. Very little here is usable. If by some miracle you found appropriate sourcing, you’d pretty much
    have to start from scratch anyways. Sergecross73 msg me 00:17, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Unanimity that the subject fails our notability guidelines. Just Chilling (talk) 17:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jorge Luis Diaz Granados Lugo

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Fails

WP:ACTOR. Recreation of an article previously deleted via AfD by soft deletion (so I don't think it qualifies for G4) but essentially the same article, with the same non-RS sources and with exactly the same problems – fails WP:AUTHOR because all his work is self-published and has no reliable independent reviews, fails WP:ACTOR as an uncredited role in a short film, fails WP:CREATIVE as a participant in a non-notable local competition (see the previous AfD nomination for more detailed explanation). Richard3120 (talk) 16:30, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Delete Speaker616 (talk) 07:50, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 social media strike

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Fails notability requirements, at the very least per

WP:PERSISTENCE. -- Fyrael (talk) 15:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep. Total complete consensus.

(non-admin closure) AmericanAir88(talk) 13:28, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Mehrshahr

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WP:V. See the past discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mehrshahr/here. Also, the subject lacks verifiability meaning it is hard to judge if it is notable. Willbb234 (talk) 14:55, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eden Garden Boarding School

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No indication of notability, no sources. Usedtobecool ✉️  11:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ZineWiki

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Non-notable wiki with no obvious reliable sources anywhere. The page seems to be a combination of

more fitting the spirit of the policy rather than the letter, and would defer to AfD if challenged. That has now happened, so I'm coming here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:18, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Actually, it's at least four. The article mentions Niedzviecki 2011. That did not exist at the time of the 2nd AFD discussion.
    • Niedzviecki, Hal (2011-07-29). "Zine Wiki and the great indie cultural reservoir". Broken Pencil. No. 84.
  • Uncle G (talk) 20:16, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The article also says "Other media sponsors of ZineWiki include Broken Pencil...." so that's not really an independent enough source that can show notability. It doesn't even explain what a zine is. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:16, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete "To write with a broken pencil is pointless." The Broken Pencil website even talks about the results of the prior AfDs. Anyway, it can now be shown that no independent reliable sources exist that mention ZineWiki in depth. Hence, the article should be deleted.
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  • Delete reference is too narrow. Barca (talk) 12:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is obvious non-notable open-source online wiki. SA 13 Bro (talk) 14:14, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete and close I am surprised it had passed two AFDs before, very clearly non notable Wiki, lacks RS. Meeanaya (talk) 04:05, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Non notable site. Not enough sources. Must be deleted. Agree with all above! -- User:Vermont (talk) 10:16, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the article because it's not well sourced and notable subject.Forest90 (talk) 12:19, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 13:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Grady Bryant

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Non-notable drag racer, article only sourced with primary sources, along with the article being created by someone directly close to the subject. Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Edits) 10:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete page created by an SPA [17]. Books appear to be self published. But I find very few sources, and can find no book reviews except what may be a book review in the Ft. Worth paper, or a feature story - I could not access the article. (Catch this This book's no drag: [NORTHEAST AM Edition], Fort Worth Star - Telegram; Fort Worth, Tex. [Fort Worth, Tex]06 Oct 1996: 14. ), also (What a drag Racer recalls better, cheaper era for sport: [ARLINGTON AM Edition] Harris, John. Fort Worth Star - Telegram; Fort Worth, Tex. [Fort Worth, Tex]05 July 1997: 1.) I am guessing that he lived in Ft. Worth.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:24, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete- Non-notable drag racer, agree with nominator, all signs of
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The result was keep.

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Ben_Lee_(violinist)

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Page is blatant advertising of the individual and his business News & Old (talk) 09:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. Additional sources have been found but several of the 'keep' comments are not well based on policy and there is a question about the depth of coverage. Just Chilling (talk) 15:21, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yuzu (emulator)

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No evidence of any real notability, just another emulator. Slatersteven (talk) 13:32, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The Next Web, but I kept it to 10 in my comment. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 21:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Those are reliable, but not significant. It's a case of
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They're clearly, unequivocally significant per
WP:TOOSOON makes absolutely no sense here. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 02:40, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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"Significant" does not mean that a prominent site mentioned it. That's a reliable source, but a decent amount has to be written on the subject that goes beyond just mentioning it and what it does. I'm not seeing that. Also, Dream Focus votes Keep on almost everything regardless of merit, so I wouldn't take his word as gospel with regards to policy and you should read it yourself.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:52, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What's with this personal insult? I clicked upon all the links posted and saw significant coverage. This isn't just announcements about it, but also mentions of when they made the bestselling game on the Switch run perfectly on it, etc. So over a period of time it still gets mentioned. Significant is context not just the number of words. Dream Focus 11:51, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's true that significance is not 100% guaranteed to be based on wordcount, but it almost always is. Usually very short articles don't indicate significant coverage, because significant coverage spends a long time talking about the subject and going in-depth.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 13:05, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"and you should read [the policy] yourself" I already had when I agreed with
""Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." And like that, we have at least 10 different articles from reliable, independent sources featuring this emulator as their primary (and, for most of them, only) subject; regardless of their shorter-than-average length, each of them clearly exceeds a 'trivial mention' and constitutes significant coverage. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 13:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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"Significant" mean more then a couple of paragraphs that say "this is coming soon".Slatersteven (talk) 09:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how many of those articles you actually read or even clicked on, but half of the 10 I presented cover progress being made on the emulator. Moreover, the other five are still significant coverage of the then-upcoming emulator; that it was in its infancy doesn't somehow render its coverage insignificant. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 13:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
wp:crystal may also come into this. Do you have anything that indicates it is notable now?Slatersteven (talk) 18:16, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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This is not a crystal ball situation since as I have said, some of the sources given are after it was developed, it getting coverage for being able to run Super Mario Odyssey. Dream Focus 19:23, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Then there is a serious problem with our article, as it does not give any release date and implies it is in fact still largely in development. Its website however does not imply it "yuzu is an experimental open-source".Slatersteven (talk) 19:34, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It is still in development (which the website explains had you read into the second paragraph: "[...] with builds actively maintained [...]").
WP:SUSTAINED as demonstrated by the sources above. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 20:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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There is no deadline on how soon is too soon. Only that it has to be enough to get significant coverage. Significant as in: something more than "oh hey, this exists, check it out" which those articles are.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Too soon" is just an essay, not a guideline or policy. And it has ample coverage now Dream Focus 19:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep but heavily rework the article to be at the very least longer than a stub, otherwise Move to draftspace. TheTechnician27 has provided plenty of reliable sources proving and establishing notability but the article itself does not reflect this, since right now it's basically just "this thing exists". --letcreate123 (talk) 16:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete due to lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Woodroar (talk) 02:24, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Yuzu was the first emulator and is the one currently furthest along in development. Usually an emulator remains obscure until it can run full games not available on any other platform. The emulator is just now at that stage and actively being developed, I think the article right on time, not too soon. Lunamoff (talk) 04:04, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Yuzu can run Super Mario Odyssey, so that is notable. It is not perfectly running though. --Frmorrison (talk) 22:24, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep why delete it? Yuzu already exists, you can downlad a stable version of it (not alpha or beta), and it is not vaporware, its not something like 6G wireless networks, that article was deleted because we don't know if 6G is going to be a thing, specially if 5g succeeds on its mission, unlike 4g. Pancho507 (talk) 02:51, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, Yuzu has sufficient RS and stable version, really Dream Focus's comment are noteworthy for a keep vote. Meeanaya (talk) 07:32, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I think that there is enough significant coverage in reliable sources, but I think the article should be expanded and reworked to make it longer than a stub.
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The result was keep.

(non-admin closure) MrClog (talk) 10:17, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Tanzim Qaedat al-Jihad

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WP:BEFORE: [23][24][25]

This seems to me to be a case of a non-notable terrorist group per

WP:LASTING impact). Some of the articles I thought were going to be on this group were about the temporary rename of some militant metagroup in Syria. If this is somehow kept, it's likely going to just be a permastub. MJLTalk 04:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep, but not strongly. I can also see a case for a redirect to
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  • Weak Keep. At the very least - a merge to Noordin Mohammad Top is in the offing, however I do see continuing coverage of this post-2009 - e.g. [27]. I would consider renaming this to Al-Qaeda in Malay Peninsula (per [28]) as there are multiple "Tanzim Qaedat al-Jihad fi somewhere else" which are not related (beyond sharing militant Islamism). Icewhiz (talk) 08:15, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. T. Canens (talk) 04:56, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Banjo Billy's Bus Tours

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Subject is not notable. It is just a small business that received a small amount of press coverage at one stage. I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 00:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete as the firm has only local notability. Mccapra (talk) 03:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - cute but not notable. The coverage is the local coverage which a tour company would expect to get. Fails
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  • Delete - agree with nom MaskedSinger (talk) 17:21, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I was able to find national coverage in this NPR Morning Edition transcribed segment; it doesn't contain many facts to use to bolster the entry, but is it enough to demonstrate notability beyond local coverage? Pegnawl (talk) 16:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:29, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aleksander Mikic

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Actor who doesn't appear to meet

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  • Delete - agree with nom, a decent smattering of roles but nothing significant enough to meet
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The result was keep. Article meets

WP:NAUTHOR, as demonstrated post-improvements by David Eppstein. TheSandDoctor Talk 05:41, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Olivia Milburn

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Doesn't seem to meet any of the criteria at

WP:ACADEMIC. The Book Award isn't really prestigious, to my knowledge. She's not highly regarded in the field (perhaps decades down the road) and isn't a holder of a distinguished chair at a major university.  White Whirlwind  咨  06:12, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:28, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The Water Network

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I found no significant coverage for this website. The article states that it "is the largest online knowledge sharing platform for the global water professionals", but I can't find any verification for that (This was brought up in February 2018 on the talk page). The article was created by single purpose account AquaSPE, which is the same name as the company that owns the website. Fails

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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. Low traffic AfD but such comments as have been made point to 'delete'. Just Chilling (talk) 14:28, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Ikeda Center for Peace, Learning, and Dialogue

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This organization does good work, but per

WP:ROUTINE announcements of events. The books that are already cited in the article are about the organization's general areas of interest, or about works done by some of their associates, but are not about this group themselves. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:35, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The book Global Citizens published by the Oxford University Press, one of the references I used, is an independent book from a variety of scholars from the U.S and U.K. who are not associated with the organizations related to Daisaku Ikeda. The Soka Gakkai is one of the many organizations he is either president of or founder of. The SG is a active supporter of the UN and the Center's work on themes of care for the earth, nonviolence, abolishing war and the Earth Charter seem important enough to appear in Wikipedia.Ltdan43 (talk) 20:14, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete, I could find some superficial coverage in some scholarly sources here,here and here, as well as two news sources which mention them,[29][30] but no significant coverage, nor of their previous name Boston Center for Research.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 18:35, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This organization seems to be doing good and important work, but it's the kind of work that would not necessarily r3eceive a lot of press or other coverage - conferences, seminars, etc. A significant institutin should not be deletged from Wikipedia jsut because its significance is subtle.--Daveler16 (talk) 18:17, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. The nominator notes that the article fails

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Richard A. Fineberg

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Fails

WP:ANYBIO. No sources in article, and I couldn't find any usable ones in a search. Marquardtika (talk) 01:18, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - Created 12 years ago and this is the best it now is? MaskedSinger (talk) 17:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article may be notable man in need of an editor. He was more active a decade and more ago. GBooks search on Richear Fineberg oil: [31], Richard Fineberg Alaska [32]. E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per sources brought to light by E.M. Gregory. The editors who argue delete appear to believe that notability depends on the whims of one particular day's incidental Google search within the past X number of years, or that we're here to be a popularity contest instead of a collaborative information resource. At any rate, the excuse "I couldn't find any sources" offered by both was shown for what it really is by E.M. Gregory. While I don't have time right now to examine all the sources, the ones I saw indicate that he's been cited as an expert on energy policy for nearly half a century. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 23:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. It's unfortunate the only detailed personal biography appears to be his own website, but I have to agree with
    WP:NOEFFORT. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 14:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC) — Further research turns up an article about him in The Province from 2009, so that makes at least two independent bios (this article and the Congress one). —Nizolan (talk · c.) 14:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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As such a Wikipedia expert
WP:NOEFFORT is not actually Wikipedia's policy. MaskedSinger (talk) 14:08, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Hi @MaskedSinger: I am not claiming to be an expert and I am not claiming NOEFFORT is a policy; I am just pointing you to an essay that explains why it is an invalid argument. AfD is a process for deciding whether an article can and should be included on Wikipedia, not for general comments on the quality of an article. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 14:11, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Article fails
WP:GNG - adding anything else would be window dressing. MaskedSinger (talk) 14:22, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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You need to explain that rather than asserting it. (GNG isn't a policy either, by the way.)Nizolan (talk · c.) 14:32, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have now added three sources to the article and rewritten it to reflect them. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 15:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. After two relists I am not seeing signs of a consensus emerging. Just Chilling (talk) 14:26, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Johannes Wahlström

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  • Delete - Renominating because the subject is only notably sourced for his relation to
    Wikileaks and through his father Israel Shamir, both of which have their own page. There are no independent indications of notability in terms of sources, outside the Wikileaks controversy and his relation to his father. The latter two are covered in their own articles, and it seems content forking to use them for a separate article. Otherwise, there is no indication of independent notability, relevant to his actual work. The article itself relies on archives of non-notable sources, except one English article mentioning him in relation to the Wikileaks controversy, and that is through the link to his father and to Wikileaks (both of whom have own article that can cover this issue). Avaya1 (talk) 03:27, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep - Was kept as late as December 2017. I see nothing that would change my !vote since then. Still passes WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 06:04, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - It isn't mentioned in the English version of the article but it should be noted that Wahlström was also part of the team behind the TV documentary that exposed the fatal research fraud of Paolo Macchiarini (see information about the program as presented by SVT, Swedish national television: [33]) /FredrikT (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Reasonably decent article. Cant see anything that would push this into Afd. scope_creepTalk 22:31, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:RS referring to him as notable, or secondary-sources coverage about him (also the sources cited only mention in him in relation to content covered in other articles - his father and wikileaks)? Where is the evidence of any independent notability?Avaya1 (talk) 11:56, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Comment - Reminds me of the guy from the girl with the Dragon Tattoo! MaskedSinger (talk) 17:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • MERGE to his father
    WP:JOURNALIST. Merge with his Dad, with whom he shares his Jew-hatred, use of fake quotations and fake facts, and boot-licking worship of Julian Assange.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Keep: Length=notability. ThatLawStudent (talk) 20:37, 7 July 2019 (UTC) Striking !vote by a sockpuppet. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 15:35, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length ≠ notability. Especially when, as here, many of the claims to notability, employment history are unsourced. And the well-sourced material is about his having been fired for falsifying quotations in his writing. When a low-level journalist is fired for faking his material, it doesn't make him notable. Just temporarily unemployed. He now works as paid propagandist.
    Daily Beast dismisses Wahlström as a "fabulist hack". E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:54, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The article seems to be self-promotional (pehaps written by the subject) and much of its claims are self-sourced again (i.e. to IMEMC, which is the subject's website). There's little evidence of notability for an English Wikipedia article, especially as it was the basis for this article. Avaya1 (talk) 01:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There does not seem to be much independent notability, only through his relations with Wikileaks and Israel Shamir.
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The result was redirect to Starbomb. Nothing very clear in the way of consensus but what is clear is that there is no significant support for keeping a standalone page. The best fit appears to be 'redirect' but with the history retained, under the redirect, to allow any sourced content to be merged as a subsequent editorial action. Just Chilling (talk) 14:23, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The TryForce

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Mburrell recently made an argument against this notability of this album, stating as follows, "The album's wiki-article citations don't appear to include any news coverage, although it does have chart rankings. [...] Web search found no news coverage of the album. (Multiple independent source requirement to show notability)." They later clarified that this was a general notability guideline (WP:GNG) issue. It was promptly removed from List of 2019 albums. If this album does fail GNG, then surely it is not viable to be an article topic. I've decided to open this up for debate since it not only concerns the future of this article, but also the future of List of 2019 albums and lists similar to it. I have decided to stay neutral in this conversation. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 08:13, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. No coverage? There's this. I'm not sure why it would be removed from a list article while we still have an article on it. Subjects don't have to satisfy the clunky GNG to have articles. The fact that this charted in so many places makes it worth covering. Whether as a standalone article or within the band article should be the question. The chart placings at least need to be in the band article. It shouldn't be at AfD. --Michig (talk) 09:03, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep and comment on prior comment. I am not arguing for the deletion of the article for Starbomb's The Tryforce although I don't think it is well supported. The question for AfD is if the article for the album is non-notable or notable. That is covered under the Wikipedia project for Notability (music), under the paragraph of Recordings
    WP:GNG
    , it merits a standalone article. Otherwise, per the recordings main paragraph, the album must meet any of 7 criteria. Criteria number 2 is that the album should have appeared on any country's national music chart, which The TryForce has done so. Therefore, using criteria provided by Wikipedia, the article is adequate to be kept even without significant reliable news sources.
Since
WP:GNG, which has at it's paragraph header the statement "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." The paragraph then goes on to define the key words in the sentence, such as significant coverage and reliable. Using this criteria, The TryForce fails general notability, and should not be included on the "List of 2019 albums", even if it has an Wikipedia article. There is criteria for keeping articles, and there are criteria for including items on lists, and they are not mutually inclusive. As a side-note, the List of 2017 albums and the List of 2016 albums were subject to a discussion and a mandate
to reduce size of the lists, which is one reason strict enforcement of notability requirements was imposed on the other lists in the series
Geek.com mentioned by Michig does not appear to be a news website, looks like a blog or fansite. When I look it up in Wikipedia, Geek.com is described as a technology news weblog. Wikipedia has a project page for listing reliable sources, Wikipedia:Reliable sources, and it is against personal and group blogs, which leaves open to interpretation organized blogs. Mburrell (talk) 00:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We have an article on Geek.com. It may have started as an amateur website back in 1996, but since been sold a few times and has been a commercial website for many years, now owned by Ziff Davis and run with a professional staff. It isn't a blog. --Michig (talk) 08:28, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. I encourage you to go to the Geek.com article and edit it to reflect current information, with supportive citations. For my other comments, one good news source citation still fails the need for signficant coverage (more than one, preferably four or more in my mind. Still, that goes towards my Keep vote for The TryForce album article. Mburrell (talk) 03:20, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Redirect to Starbomb with any sourced/relevant information merged to the article. I can understand some limited notability being demonstrated with the sources and the chart placement so I am opposed to a deletion, but I do not see enough coverage to support an independent article. Aoba47 (talk) 19:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete.

WP:REFUND applies. T. Canens (talk) 04:55, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Unfathomable Ruination

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Does not appear to meet

WP:GNG. Source never says whether the oxygen stunt actually happened or not, it merely previews it, and is the only non-routine source cited in the page. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 16:09, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Comment I found an article from Stereogum that features an image of the band being placed in the box and the schedule of when they performed in the box in London's Gherkin neighborhood. Don't know if it counts, but it does have an image of the box. [34] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrashbandicoot01 (talkcontribs) 02:09, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. OK, having lots of readers is not a reason to keep an article under notability guidelines. The question of whether GNG is met isn't so clear, as most of the sources are stated to be plot summaries rather than detailed analysis and there is the - somewhat vague - concern about non-independent sources raised. A merger was also discussed, but there does not appear to be a clear consensus either pro ("usual practice for minor characters") or con ("target is too long"). My sense is that while the keep arguments probably out-weigh the delete ones owing to several uncontested sources, the merge/redirect or no case would need a dedicated discussion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 07:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Myrcella Baratheon

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XFD created on behalf of User:Aoba47. No reason provided at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Myrcella_Baratheon but I have asked User to add the reason to this AFD.

ping me) 01:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Reason: The above character does not appear to have enough independent coverage from third-party, reliable sources to warrant a separate article or fulfill

WP:GNG. I would not opposed to a redirect to the List of A Song of Ice and Fire characters list where an entry for the character already exists. Aoba47 (talk) 01:36, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Redirect to
    plot info. The recasting problem is not unique to to this character. Prior attempts to discuss the matter have not gone anywhere.[35] The argument that the topic deserves its own article because of the character's unusual name does not even merit a response. Hijiri 88 (やや) 10:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • A unique and distinctive name is not a reason why a character should have a separate article. Neither is page views. It should boil down to is there a significant amount of coverage on the character and I personally do not believe that is not the case. I can only see a limited amount, and it would be more beneficial for you to locate more sources from third-party, reliable sources to support your keep argument. Aoba47 (talk) 14:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This article has had 165,806 views in the past 90 days. Probably far more popular before the character was killed off. Wikipedia claims to be an encyclopedia, but 99% of the people coming to it just read entertainment articles. Anyway, the general notability guidelines are technically met with the significant coverage found in reliable sources provided. Dream Focus 12:09, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Page views is not a part of WP:GNG and not a strong argument to keep an article. I am not arguing against entertainment articles as I only work with those types of articles with my own projects. The "significant coverage" has not been met, as I can currently only see a limited coverage that justifies the character having an entry on the character list and not a separate article. Aoba47 (talk) 13:55, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apologies for all my responses. I will stay out of the conversation and let other editors discuss this. Thank you to everyone who has participated so far. Aoba47 (talk) 14:44, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to List of A Song of Ice and Fire characters. Even the few reliable sources that discuss the character are brief, don't go much beyond plot, and even mention within them what a minor character it was. The character therefore does not have the significant coverage needed to have a standalone article. However, the character does have an entry in the character list, which this should definitely be redirected to, and since that section is currently completely unsourced, those few, minor sources that are present in this article should be merged over. Rorshacma (talk) 15:42, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to List of A Song of Ice and Fire characters as a non-independently-notable character but one that can merit mention in a list.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:00, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep a notable character from a notable mainstream production. Enough Wikipedia readers turn up each day to show that this subject is important to readers. GNG is met by the existence of references. Esquire, Hello Magazine, Hollywood Reporter, Los Angeles Times, And passing mentions in Business Insider and many others. Lightburst (talk) 13:30, 16 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
None of those references provide any information that could be used to expand this article beyond simple plot summary. The only one that provides more than
a detailed recounting of the events of the show is Esquire, which is wrong to take an unreliable book narrator's statement that she had her ear cut off as plain fact -- there is almost no "word of god" in ASOIAF. Hijiri 88 (やや) 03:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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@
WP:PERX. You need to provide your own rationale, rather than just piggy-backing on another editor whose argument was just waiting to be rebutted. Hijiri 88 (やや) 03:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep Our readers are interested in it. "This article has had 165,806 views in the past 90 days." To update it 157,197 from today's date.
  1. Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Myrcella Baratheon. The "train wreck" continues
  2. WP:NEXIST
    covers it.
  3. Hollywood Reporter., and Richardson, Aimee; Day, Patriick Kevin (July 31, 2014). "Former 'Game of Thrones' actress makes 'Princess for Hire' video" (Video). Los Angeles Times. The actress who played Myrcella Baratheon on the HBO series "Game of Thrones" makes a joke out of her character's recent recasting., and Renfro, Kim (October 25, 2015). "These 5 'Game of Thrones' characters were recast — and you probably didn't even notice". Business Insider
    ..
  4. No compliance with
    WP:Before
    we would not be having this discussion. These sources were can (and should) be added to the article.
  5. The article is
    WP:Hey, and not what it was when it was proposed for this 2nd deletion. 7&6=thirteen () 12:26, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Not to be too nitpicky, but
WP:TRAINWRECK refers to "a nomination of a group of related pages for deletion or renaming which fails due to the disparate nature or worth of the pages" (as explicitly stated in Wikipedia policy) and only one article was nominated during this AfD so (The "train wreck" continues) is not applicable here. Aoba47 (talk) 17:46, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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You are right. Only a single car is involved in this
WP:AFD nomination; and yet it continues. 7&6=thirteen () 17:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Still not a train wreck at all according to Wikipedia policy, but thank you for the links. Aoba47 (talk) 19:37, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thirteen, please do not edit other editors' talk page comments. If this were the first time such an incident had occurred with you I could take it as a good-faith mistake, but this kind of stuff keeps happening with you.[36][37] Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:43, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Also, any claim that
WP:HEY applies when even a cursory glance at the article reveals it still consists exclusively of in-universe plot information is ridiculous. Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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WP:ANI. Your ongoing and needless hostility should cease. 7&6=thirteen () 01:33, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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Please retract the above You are toxic. personal attack, and do not respond again if you are not going to focus on content: you claimed that WP:HEY applied here, I pointed out that it didn't, and you responded with a needlessly off-topic rant about how you don't like me -- this is obviously inappropriate. Hijiri 88 (やや) 01:40, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yada yada. 7&6=thirteen () 01:44, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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@Dimadick: What is in those sources other than in-universe plot information? I looked through them and couldn't find anything useful. Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The article was viewed numerous times during the past month because GoT had just ended in May 2019. Thus, it's reasonable to assume that GoT-related articles attract readers for a few months after the finale, but there's no guarantee that this will be the case after a year or so. Keivan.fTalk 03:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Yeah, I've been trying not to point out the obvious fact that this show is extremely controversial at the moment and so virtually all articles related to it will have their view counts artificially inflated. I'm not sure if Andrew and the others were aware of this fact and actively chose to ignore it (in which case they should really be sanctioned for tendentious cherry-picking of data) or were not aware of it because they know absolutely nothing about the topic and were only !voting here because they saw an opportunity to undermine a Wikipedia process they don't like. Hijiri 88 (やや) 04:59, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The fact of the views exists. 7&6=thirteen () 13:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but it won't in a year's time, and probably didn't a year ago. I don't know about you, but since about a month before Season 8 premiered I've had Game of Thrones related advertising showing up before every second or third YouTube video -- it makes sense that during this particular space of time all Game of Thrones articles on Wikipedia would have their view counts artificially inflated. I saw the same phenomenon with my
nothing has been, or can be, written about her except in-universe plot information. Hijiri 88 (やや) 15:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The fact of the views will still exist. That you don't like them is just your opinion. Your
WP:ANI is aNOTHER hollow threat. And the beat goes on. 7&6=thirteen () 17:33, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The fact of the views will still exist.
page views aren't a valid reason to keep the article, and neither you nor anyone else has addressed the lack of any third-party sources that allow us to discuss this topic in a real-world, non-plot-summary fashion. Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:33, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment: I have done a copy-edit to the article, and did two major changes. I removed the "Character description" section completely as it was just repeating plot summary already present in the "Storylines" section. I have also moved the sources from the lead and tried to show what information they represent. I am still uncertain on whether or not these sources are enough to establish notability for a completely separate article as opposed to the list entry. However, I wanted to try and make a more fair representation to anyone interested in participating in the discussion. I will of course respect whatever the consensus is. Aoba47 (talk) 18:14, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Aoba47 It is not appropriate for the nominator of an article to make wholesale changes (References and sections removed) while the AfD is in place. It is a demonstrable COI based on the fact that the nominator has proposed the article for deletion. Other editors are working to improve the article, it is best to let this process continue without making reductions based on your opinion. Lightburst (talk) 18:22, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I edited the article to better integrate the sources into the actual article and represent their information for editors who would like to get involved in this discussion. Before, they were all just clumped together in the lead for no apparent reason. I did not remove any references as you erroneously claim, and I fail to see how it is a conflict of interest when I am genuinely trying to make information clearer for this discussion and editors to form their own opinion on whether or not said information is enough to form notability for a separate article. Aoba47 (talk) 18:59, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the message and the links. I personally believe the links in the article and the ones you have provided above are enough to satisfy WP:GNG. @Victoriaearle: Should I request for the AfD to be withdrawn to the change in my personal opinion or should it be left open until a consensus has been reached has there are several redirect/merge votes? Aoba47 (talk) 20:21, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • My advice would be to just let it run its course. I literally spent five minutes on this, didn't look in the g-news archives where there might be more to be found, so I'd say wait and see what other people come up with and let the closing admin make a determination. Personally I'd oppose a merge to List of A Song of Ice and Fire characters, which is overly long and does seem to lack reliable sourcing. In my view this character, Jaime & Cersei's daughter, who does get quite a lot of ink in the books, has reliable sourcing, is able to stand on its own. Victoria (tk) 20:28, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the response. I am not sure how I missed the links during my before search, but I am grateful for the participation in the above discussion. Here are some additional ones that I have found: Zimbio, The Week, Screen Rant, Vulture.com, Vulture.com, and Bustle to help with the discussion. Aoba47 (talk) 20:38, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. We are all fallible.
WP:AGF mistakes happen. That's why they put Delete keys
on computers.
It is one of the beauties of the
WP:Article rescue squad, which mobilizes other sets of eyes, including diverse backgrounds, and their research skills. I know there are detractors, but in my experience the focus is on article improvement, not mobilizing !votes. 7&6=thirteen () 20:52, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 04:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kaitlin Cullum

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Does not meet

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  • Delete, sadly I searched high and low. No non-trivial coverage of the subject. Lightburst (talk) 02:25, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Single-cell analysis#Mass spectroscopy–based methods. Consensus has developed for a merge with which all the commentators are happy. Just Chilling (talk) 01:00, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Micro-arrays for mass spectrometry

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No evidence of notability is provided. The references are all primary research articles coauthored by the technique's inventors Renato Zenobi and Paweł Urban, at least one of whom (or someone close to them) appears to have been involved in coauthoring this article. This article appears to be part of a citation farm or self-promotional circle jerk attempting to establish notability for Paweł Urban. The scientific paper that originally described this technique has been cited only 82 times since it was published in 2010 [38], and Google Scholar is known to be very generous in what it counts as a citation. This is not a highly cited article. There is no evidence (e.g., reliable second-party sources) that this is a notable technique deserving of a Wiki article. Bueller 007 (talk) 01:43, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I agree that a merge with a longer article would be appropriate. Vorbee (talk) 06:16, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge is a good resolution. Bearian (talk) 16:47, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Low traffic AfD with no consensus. It has been over a fortnight since the last comment so I can't justify a third relist. Just Chilling (talk) 00:54, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The D&E

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Fails

WP:NTOUR. No substance, but concert dates and setlists Kleuske (talk) 18:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep: more background information has since been added and the article has been cleaned up, citing reputation sources Kodi 6 —Preceding undated comment added 08:34, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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