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Thanks for providing the Radio Times reference for Daleks in Manhattan. Would you mind doing the same for the plot section at 42 (Doctor Who)? I'd do it, but I don't have the magazine myself, so I don't know the page number and details like that. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 10:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
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Article of the month: Forti (current GA candidate)
Forti Corse, commonly known as Forti, was an Italian motor racing team chiefly known for its brief, and unsuccessful, involvement in Formula One in the mid-1990s. It was established in the 1970s and competed in lower formulae for two decades, with some success. The team graduated to F1 as a constructor and entrant in 1995 and continued into 1996, before succumbing to financial problems mid-season. The team competed in a total of 27 Grands Prix, scoring no points, and is recognised as one of the last truly privateer teams to race in an era when many large car manufacturers were increasing their involvement in the sport. (More...) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Good Article Max Rufus Mosley (born April 13, 1940) is president of the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), a non-profit association that represents the interests of motoring organisations and car users worldwide. The FIA is also the governing body for Formula One and other international motorsports. Mosley is a former car safety performance assessment programme. He has also promoted increased safety and the use of green technologies in motor racing. In 2008, Mosley retained his position after stories about his sex life appeared in the British press.
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Proof that 22/7 exceeds π
At talk:Proof that 22/7 exceeds π, you wrote:
- Sorry if this seems stupid, but I don't know why this article exists. Do we also need to prove that 4 is bigger than 3? That 50 is bigger than 1.2? No.
- I can see it now:
- 'Proof that 4 exceeds 3'
Well, pardon me if these seems blunt, but that question does seem stupid, but also seems puzzling: I wonder just what people like you who ask that question could have in mind (and you may have noticed that several people raised the same question in the extensive deletion discussion).
I wonder whether those who ask that question even know how to prove, only by a loose heuristic argument, that π > 3 or that π < 4. Are those things that you know how to do, or do you just take the textbook's word for it that π = 3.14159...? If that last possibility is the case then you've cut yourself off from the means of understanding anything. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
- In response to your post on my talk page:
- The textbook says: circumference of a circle / diameter of same circle = pi.
- In school, one is taught this and looks at circles and manages to work out a couple of decimal places of pi. Mathematical people have proved time and time again that pi ~ (from memory) 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944. That is less than 22/7 (work it out). Ergo, pi < 22/7.
- I think many people who are not as well versed in maths as most of the editors of that page would not understand why that page exists, and it needs to be made clearer to them (me included). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thelb4 (talk • contribs)
That is a truly bizarre way of viewing things, almost bordering on psychotic, as it appears to me. We face a question:
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- Thelb4's Answer: Because our textbooks tell us so. And "mathematical people have proved it".
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- Thelb4's Answer: The textbooks and the history books say they have. That's how. Therefore we don't need Wikipedia articles that explain how.
You stop BARELY short of asserting that that number was brought down from Mount Sinai by a prophet and that that's how we know it. The article on which you comment, on the other hand, tries to EXPLAIN how it can be known (although not as many digits as you quote above).
You claim that in school you worked out a couple of decimal places by "looking at circles". I don't know how I would do that. I do know how I can quickly show that pi is more than 3 but less than 4. And it's NOT by saying "we were taught that, and the textbooks say it".
To say that we know that pi is less than 22/7 because we know that pi is 3.14159etc., is a put the cart before the horse. The article MUST start from the assumption that we DON'T know that sort of thing. Any reasonable reader would be very offended if it didn't. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
PS: I used template:unsigned on your comments because you didn't put four tildes ~~~~ after them so that your signature and the date and time stamp would appear. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
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Featured Article The 1995 Pacific Grand Prix (formally the II Pacific Grand Prix) was a Williams car, with Damon Hill third in the other Williams. Schumacher's win confirmed him as 1995 Drivers' Champion as Hill could not pass Schumacher's points total with only two races remaining.
Hill started the race alongside Coulthard on the front row, amidst pressure from the British media for not being "forceful" enough in battles. Schumacher attempted to drive around the outside of Hill at the first corner, but Hill held Schumacher off as slick tyres , to close on Coulthard who was on a two-stop strategy. Schumacher opened up a gap of 21 seconds by lapping two seconds faster per lap than Coulthard, so that when his third stop came, he still led the race.
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Good Article Candidate The 2008 Belgian Grand Prix (formally the LXIV ING Belgian Grand Prix) was a 2008 Formula One season. The race, contested over 44 laps, was won by Felipe Massa for the Ferrari team, after the initial winner, McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton, was penalised for cutting a chicane and gaining an advantage over Ferrari's Kimi Räikkönen .
Hamilton started from BMW Sauber .
Hamilton received a drive-through penalty, which demoted him to third place and advanced Massa and Heidfeld to first and second positions. McLaren appealed the decision at the FIA International Court of Appeal. Their case, however, was judged inadmissible, with the Court ruling that drive-through penalties cannot be challenged. The penalty created a large amount of criticism from the global press, mainly from the United Kingdom and Italy, with several former drivers questioning the decision. Massa's retrospective win, with Hamilton demoted to third, narrowed the gap in the Championship from six points to just two. (More...) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Good Article candidate.The 2008 Brazilian Grand Prix (formally the XXXVII Grande Prêmio Santander do Brasil) was a Renault, and Kimi Räikkönen third in a Ferrari.
Before the race, Drivers' Championship leader Lewis Hamilton had received heated criticism in the British press for his aggressive driving style at the Japanese Grand Prix three weeks previously. There, Hamilton's late braking at the first corner sent Räikkönen off the road and saw the McLaren driver relegated to the back of the field after a penalty. Massa started the race alongside Toyota driver Jarno Trulli. Massa's Ferrari team-mate Räikkönen began from third next to Hamilton. Rain fell minutes before the race, delaying the start, and as the track dried Massa established a lead of several seconds. More rain in the closing laps did not prevent Hamilton from finishing the race in fifth position, securing him the points needed to take the Championship. (More...) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Featured Article status after review.Damon Graham Devereux Hill OBE (born 17 September 1960) is a retired British racing driver from England. In 1996 Hill won the Formula One World Championship; as the son of the late Graham Hill, he is the only son of a world champion to win the title. His father died in a plane crash when Hill was 15, leaving the family in reduced circumstances and Hill came to professional motorsports at the relatively late age of 23 by racing motorcycles. After some minor success, he moved on to single-seater racing cars, and progressed steadily up the ranks to the International Formula 3000 championship by 1989, where although often competitive he never won a race. Hill became a test driver for the Formula One title-winning 1996 World Drivers' Championship, but was dropped by Williams for the following season. He went on to drive for the less competitive Arrows and Jordan teams, and in 1998 gave Jordan its first win.
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Featured List open-wheeled auto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motorsport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name refers to a set of rules to which all participants and cars must conform. The F1 world championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, held usually on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets. The most famous Grand Prix is the Monaco Grand Prix in Monte Carlo. The results of each race are combined to determine two annual Championships, one for drivers and one for constructors .
Michael Schumacher holds the record for the most Grand Prix victories, having won 91 times. Alain Prost, is second with 51 wins, and Ayrton Senna is third, with 41 wins. Michael Schumacher holds the distinction of having the longest time between his first win and his last. He won his first Grand Prix in 1992 at the Belgian Grand Prix, and his last in 2006 at the Chinese Grand Prix, a gap that spans 14 years, 1 month and 1 day. The youngest winner of a Grand Prix is Sebastian Vettel, who was 21 years, 73 days old when he won the 2008 Italian Grand Prix. Luigi Fagioli is the oldest winner of a Formula One Grand Prix; he was 53 years and 22 days old when he won the 1951 French Grand Prix. (More...) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Article of the month - 2008 Chinese Grand Prix, new
Good Article The 2008 Chinese Grand Prix (formally the V Sinopec Chinese Grand Prix) was a 2008 Formula One season. The race, contested over 56 laps, was won by Lewis Hamilton for the McLaren team after starting from pole position. Ferrari driver Felipe Massa finished second, and Kimi Räikkönen was third in the other Ferrari.
Hamilton, the eventual points tally at the final race in Brazil .
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Article of the month - 2008 German Grand Prix, current Good Article Candidate.
The 2008 German Grand Prix (formally the LXVIII Großer Preis Santander von Deutschland) was a Renault car, with Felipe Massa third in a Ferrari .
Hamilton maintained his startline advantage and led until he made his first pit stop on lap 18. As other cars made their pit stops, Hamilton regained the lead on lap 22. On lap 36 Timo Glock crashed, and the race was neutralized by the deployment of the safety car. Hamilton, on a two-stop strategy, did not stop to get more fuel during this period, while all the cars around him did. Thus when he did eventually stop on lap 50, he rejoined the race in fifth. In the closing stages of the race, Hamilton overtook first his team-mate Heikki Kovalainen, then Massa, and finally Piquet, to take the lead again on lap 60, which he maintained to win the race. The victory was Hamilton's second consecutive win, having won the preceding BMW Sauber and Ferrari. Ferrari still led by 15 points from McLaren, and 12 from BMW, whose drivers – Nick Heidfeld and Robert Kubica – finished fourth and seventh respectively.
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