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Kastrioti CoA

From Armorial. The Red-Black version is OR.--Zoupan 13:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Something for you!

		The Epic Barnstar
		I award you with this in recognition of many valuable contributions to Balkan, especially Serbian and Albanian, history, and for not fearing to enter some very explosive minefields like Skanderbeg. Keep up the good work! Cheers, Constantine ✍ 17:43, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Gojko Balšić

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) 08:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive

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WikiCup 2012 June newsletter

Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working. We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's igordebraga (submissions), who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's Grapple X (submissions), whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's Muboshgu (submissions), with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.

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Resolution

Hi there, is there any chance we can work out our differences here without continuing our disagreement on the Albania page. I would love it if we could work together to improve this encyclopaedia. Regards - Ottomanist (talk) 00:17, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Welcome back!

Thank you Antidiskriminator...--Kebeta (talk) 15:32, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Antidiskriminator. You have new messages at Kudpung's talk page.
Message added 10:20, 9 July 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

:Re: New user

Yes, my friend, I am. Praxis Icosahedron (talk) 06:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Brand new as they come.Praxis Icosahedron (talk) 09:00, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Disruption

This edit of yours is highly disruptive as you deleted sourced content. That being said as you have received ARBMAC warnings regarding Skanderbeg-related topics, it'd be prudent to avoid such edits. Btw if you can't contribute in English just avoid editing as contributions like men left despot's forces after despot's defeat only lower the article's (already low) quality.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 14:44, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Will you please be so kind to present the sourced assertion which I deleted?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 05:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

There's nothing related to NPA regarding comments about proper prose. You removed the alliance with Venice and I let you know about the article in order to avoid any unnecessary discussion afterwards. Of course feel free to add anything that I may neglect to include.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 20:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

The source says that "none of these figures actually mobilized to help Venice militarily", i.e. there was no alliance with Venice. Your accusation was unjustified. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Stefan Branković

Unresolved

Go ahead and add them. It is possible since he left Serbia, and married

Angelina.--Zoupan

08:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	For your endless efforts to make wikipedia a friendly place and make other users feel like they have a good colleague (i.e. you) here Alexikoua (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	For your endless efforts to make wikipedia a friendly place and make other users feel like they have a good colleague (i.e. you) here Alexikoua (talk) 12:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

George Strez Balšić

Unresolved

George Castriot, surnamed Scanderbeg, king of Albania, p. 20: "But these domestic intrigues were, for a while, interrupted by the weight and importance of foreign affairs ; for war was declared against George, Lord of Misia, commonly called the Despot of Servia. It is said that Amurath was induced by two ..." Is this true? And where exactly did Misia lie, which towns and forts did it have, it would be great if a map was added.--Zoupan 14:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I should have noted that. But what possessions did the Balšić brothers have?--Zoupan 15:09, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree. No problem, its just copyediting.

• Schmitt 2005, p. 167: "Die von den Balsici beherrschten Gebiete zwischen Kruja und der Küste"
• Gopčević 1914, p. 74: "in Misia(1)" - there is a footnote, but I can't see it.
• "... fe prigione il Signor Giovanni e il Signor Coico Balsa fratelli e li mando al re Ferrante vecchio in Napoli, chi li tenesse prigioni, e li tolse il stato loro ch'era tra Croia et Alesio, dico il paese della Misia." - no idea what it says
• "Er nahm die Brüder Giov und Coico Balsa gefangen (seine Schwestersöhne) und schickte sie an den alten König ... sie dieser gefangen halte, und nahm ihr Land weg, welches zwischen Kroja und Alessio lag und Misia ') genannt wurde."

Just received your reply, interesting. Is there not even one map of medieval Albania during the League of Lezhe by any scholar?--Zoupan 15:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Kruje-Shkoder region makes the districts of Shkodër, Pukë, Lezhë, Mirditë, Kurbin possible, and Zaharia held Sati and Dagnum, and Spani held mountains behind Drivasto. In the vicinity, there is a "Mise" and "Myselimi" in Postribë. "Mushan" in Dajç. And some more toponyms which might be connected, but nothing can be known without scholarship. Elsie does not explain where Misia is.--Zoupan 16:29, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ivan Strez Balšić

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Orlady (talk

) 08:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Revolt of 1432

I've been writing for some time an article on the event, so please don't add yet another article with disconnected sentences etc. on the mainspace, but wait for me to finish and then add whatever it is that you think that I haven't written. --— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 00:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you please present a link to the draft which you started in your userspace?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 05:55, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I always work offline and I have written an almost complete article, so please don't add on mainspace your draft, not to mention that there's nothing about it that's not included in what I've already written.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 07:32, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

It is obviously impossible to verify your claim about the draft you started since it is in offwiki space. You expect me to AGF in your case which is not easy because:

1. your request is unnecessary harsh (so please don't add yet another article with disconnected sentences etc.)
2. this is not the first time you write me comments like this (i.e. diff). It was described as incivility and you were warned not to engage in further ethno-nationalist tendentious editing ...misrepresenting sources .... in incivility or personal attacks.
3. you yourself started two articles in the mainspace right after I started drafts in my userspace (link).

Will you please be so kind and reply to my above question which hopefully help me to AGF in your case and respect your request.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

There's nothing related to NPA regarding comments about proper prose. You removed the alliance with Venice and I let you know about the article in order to avoid any unnecessary discussion afterwards. Of course feel free to add anything that I may neglect to include.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 20:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

The source says that "none of these figures actually mobilized to help Venice militarily", i.e. there was no alliance with Venice. Your accusation was unjustified. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Ankara

Would you care to participate in the discussion concerning the removal of

Stefan Lazarevic from the template on the Battle of Ankara article? --Kansas Bear (talk

) 00:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

71.178.108.23 latest additions to the

original research

. His sentence, "Also, his role in the battle was differently interpreted: he was commanding right flank [13] or not being seen in commanding role."[14][15]

• 14. "History of the Byzantine State", does not mention Stefan Lazarevic, nor does it mention any other commanders under Bayezid and only mentions the battle in passing. This source needs a quote for verification.
• 15. "The Turkish empire: its growth and decay", by Baron George Shaw-Lefevre Eversley.

1.I am very interested in this

Baron George Shaw Levevre Eversley

's qualifications.

2.The book does NOT state that Stefan Lazarevic wasn't in command of the left wing. Nor does it state anyone else being in command of the left wing.[1]

3.Copyrighted in 1917, where methodology and historiography come into question.

Odd how The Cambridge Medieval History volumes 1-5, By J.B. Bury, [2], states Stephen of Serbia was in command of his own troops and formed the left wing. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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Toma Raspasani

I was bold and added some refs from the talk page, you should expand with the rest. It could not stay a stub.--Zoupan 20:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 July newsletter

We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

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Discussion concerning IP's edit warring on Battle of Ankara

[3] If you were interested in giving your opinion on the matter. --Defensor Ursa 01:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!!!

A thanks for you!!! I wanted to thank you for being one of the few users being patient enough to descuss with me about Religion in Albania for 4 days (unlike with unhelpful users at Religion in Turkey; you could help with that). Sadly, I can't thank you any more than this. Sincerely, 109.92.219.199 (talk) 11:56, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Religion in … dispute

• Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Religion in Turkey

You probably didn't know, but you're all actually in one dispute. Uncle G (talk) 08:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you, Antid! This means a lot to me! And specially from you! Thanks again! :) --WhiteWriter^speaks 17:38, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for Invitation

Thank you for Invitation in Wikiproject Serbia. --Dalibor Đurić (talk) 16:36, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you know nominations/Cetinje chronicle

I added the image to the nomination if it is OK? You can revert if you want.--Zoupan 20:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Tomasevich

I don't see how I could be any clearer—whom ever was making that reading was obviously reading my comment tendentiously. Fifelfoo (talk) 07:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:58, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012

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19:31, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Cetinje chronicle

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1. Grapple X (submissions) once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially The X-Files and Millenium, with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
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4. Casliber (submissions) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
5. Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
6. Muboshgu (submissions) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
7. Dana Boomer (submissions) was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance lettuce reach featured article status.
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September 2012

You currently appear to be engaged in an

try to reach a consensus

rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's

This edit contained comment about me. There is a policy which says: Comment on content, not on the contributor.. Please be so kind and comment on the content, not me.----Rereward (talk) 09:05, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me for butting in here, but what..? That is not a "comment on the contributor" in any meaningful sense, or a comment to which a

WP:NPA violation than several of your own comments on the same page.) Bishonen | talk

10:25, 5 September 2012 (UTC).

No problem, thank you for helping here. As a newer user, I am all about learning and have been learning much from Antid who gave me

WP:NPA warning seems relevant — But since he is so experienced a user, he must be illustrating both the standard and the method of how to address it." Perhaps you can assist me to understand the difference between his NPA warning and mine? I want to make sure I am a responsible editor. I'm all ears.--Rereward (talk

) 10:43, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

No, there's no difference. Antidiskriminator's warning to you wasn't warranted either. (The only difference is that I didn't see that one. :-) ) Bishonen | talk 12:52, 5 September 2012 (UTC).

Thank you. Lessons learned. I acknowledge that neither warning was warranted and will do my part to avoid similar issues in the future. Matter resolved on my end.--Rereward (talk) 13:20, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

This reference gives further evidence of sarcasm and charges of absurdity. Please exercise civility.--Rereward (talk) 20:48, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Rereward, frankly, I think you're focusing too much on things you don't like about the way Antidiskriminator speaks to you. Please try to look past that to whatever point it is that's being made, because I don't find AD's tone any different from what's normal all over this site. It might be agreeable if there was never ever the slightest tinge of sarcasm in talkpage comments and edit summaries, but, well, as long as the comments aren't sneering and unpleasant, it tends to be regarded as acceptable. And if you think AD was sneering at you in the conversation you linked or the edit summary you quoted there, I think you might be overinterpreting his wording. Please think about it. Bishonen | talk 21:35, 5 September 2012 (UTC).

Thanks, Bishonen. Good advice. Antid is clearly brilliant and also incredibly helpful when choosing to answer questions specifically on the discussion pages. Still, do not bite the newcomers is a good idea that will only help Antid to allow others to hear his usually excellent arguments.--Rereward (talk) 22:03, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's

You've unwittingly been a fantastic help to me and I wanted to say thanks. I tried to find a good barnstar for you but the only thing was that silly miscellaneous rainbow barnstar. In your honor I've proposed this barnstar to be created. Keep up the great work.--Rereward (talk) 08:01, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

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The Military history WikiProject has started its 2012 project coordinator election process, where we will select a team of coordinators to organize the project over the coming year. If you would like to be considered as a candidate, please submit your nomination by 14 September. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact one of the current coordinators on their talk page. This message was delivered here because you are a member of the Military history WikiProject. – Military history coordinators (about the project • what coordinators do) 08:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi, could you revisit this for an opinion ? Thanks. - ☣Tourbillon ^A ? 10:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello Antidiskriminator, thanks for your review of my DYK nomination. I have responded to your concerns about the hook at the nomination page. Yazan (talk) 02:23, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hello,

These are very interesting questions, but they are also hard to answer.

Big number of unassessed articles. Indeed, almost 3,000. Also, quite probably, a sizable number of untagged articles. ([4][5][6]). This should be treated like a backlog, really. Article assessment is not a straightforward task, so it is naturally suited to more experienced editors. Plan: find some candidates, give them a tool or two, initiate project-wide discussions whenever something's doubtful, try to generate awareness and interest in the wider circle of editors. And hard work, of course...

Lack of editors who are active in the project. Same problem for WP Croatia, obviously: less than 30 active members. Fortunately, some of them are really outstanding contributors, and I guess this is what compensates for the lack of brute force. No easy solutions here. Plan: identify non-members who contribute within the scope and invite them, and motivate members to contribute more. The members should be aware of each other's work, the project's page should advertise it - this is a powerful motivation.

Introduction of formal assessment procedures. My guess is the less formal the better, especially in the beginning. Whether the project needs e.g. an assessment subpage is anyone's guess, it's hard to say. It's important for members to be aware of assessment process, even if they are themselves not familiar with the mechanism - they could always inquire in the project's talk page ("Hey, I've just written an article about XY, how would you assess it?").

Any other thing you think could help WikiProject Serbia. I like DYKs. (And so do you, apparently...) It is gratifying for the editor, it is good for Wikipedia as a very strong generator of above-average quality content, and it is good for the project (content, visibility, cooperation, motivation). DYK collaborations between two or more editors are great. I wish more people did DYKs. GregorB (talk) 14:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I noticed your question regarding these issues at GregorB's talk and I thought to add an issue which might be of use to WP:Croatia, but you might take a look if you feel that the proposed approach may be of interest to WP:Serbia.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Not sure what more I can bring, you've already notified another admin who is dealing. GiantSnowman 19:38, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Why me? And what if the editor who you feel has had personal information revealed doesn't agree? i.e. why are you making this request on their behalf? There may be no harm. GiantSnowman 19:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

No problems, glad it's been sorted, let me know if I can help again. GiantSnowman 12:31, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Apology accepted. There was no personal info there. It was only a joke combining the user and city names.... (I hope the user might have seen that before you intervened in vain. :-) Thanks for your good-will and time. All the best. --E4024 (talk) 20:29, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hello. OK, I'll try to do something (I do not promise because of lack of free time), but I need the images of the COAs. Which one are subject of the request? Pozdrav--MacedonianBoy (talk) 09:30, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Apart from the outdated sources that you shouldn't have been using either way and the use of out of context quotes from some sources, you've misrepresented almost every quote you've used. As examples I've added the quotes you've used from Buda's work on the talkpage. Also you can't copy almost half a page from Inalcik as that's

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In a 2007

Posting what seems to be a deliberately misleading quote attributed to me as you did here is exactly the kind of thing which leads to blocks under these sanctions. I'd appreciate an apology. Nick-D (talk) 09:52, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Search for "In 1437 another revolt broke out in the district of Berat, led by Theodor Korona Muzaka." on gbooks--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 23:03, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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Imaš email od mene. Pozdrav! --Kolega2357 (talk) 22:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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G'day Antidiskriminator. Given our previous and ongoing interactions at

Peacemaker67, do not accuse others for WP:WIKIHOUNDING when you do that yourself to others. Nemambrata (talk) 12:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

We're over half way through the final, and so it is less than a month until we know for certain our 2012 WikiCup champion. Grapple X (submissions) currently leads, followed by Sasata (submissions), Cwmhiraeth (submissions) and Casliber (submissions). However, we have no one resembling a breakaway leader, and so the competition is a long way from over. Next month's newsletter will feature a list of our winners (who are not necessarily only the finalists) and keep your eyes open for an article on the WikiCup in a future edition of The Signpost. The leaders are already on a par with last year's winners, but a long way from the huge scores seen in 2010. That said, a repeat of the competition from 2010 seems unlikely.

It is good to see that three-quarters of our finalists have already scored bonus points this round. This shows that, contrary to criticism that the WikiCup has received in the past, the competition does not merely incentivise the writing of trivial articles; instead, our top competitors are still spending their time contributing to high-importance articles, and bringing them to a high standard. This does a great service to the encyclopedia and its readers. Thank you, and good work!

The planning for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Some

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Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Peacemaker67 (talk) 07:20, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello. You are the subject of a report at

Just a reminder that you are the subject of a report at

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Re: Moba

Well, I'm sure if either of the two projects sets up a drive and invites members of the other to pitch in - there would be help offered. I, for one, would definitely lend a hand. Setting up a drive with achievable objectives (along with an invitation to help) would, IMHO, ensure that the process goes smoothly and that it improves the project as designed.--Tomobe03 (talk) 13:41, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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There is a tool that could help with the unassessed WP Serbia articles. The idea is to find articles which are unassessed by WP Serbia, yet are already assessed by some other project. So, for example:

• Unassessed by WP Serbia, but assessed as B by at least one other project: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?depth=3&categories=Unassessed+Serbia+articles%0D%0AB-Class+articles&ns%5B1%5D=1&doit=1
• Unassessed by WP Serbia, but assessed as C by at least one other project: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?depth=3&categories=Unassessed+Serbia+articles%0D%0AC-Class+articles&ns%5B1%5D=1&doit=1
• Etc., it is a matter of supplying the parameters. (Although it may not work for Stub and Start, as these classes are too large for the tool.)

For these articles, the existing class could be copied to WP Serbia banner. Note however that not all assessments are reliable: e.g.

With the same tool one can also find articles that were assessed by WP Serbia as X, and by some other project as Y (Y<>X). These cases can be inspected further then. GregorB (talk) 17:31, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

No problem... Unfortunately, assessment can't be made easy, and that's why every bit of help is useful. GregorB (talk) 18:08, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, there are no clear rules regarding importance (and that's part of what I meant when I said it "can't be made easy"). Generally speaking:

• Rivers will probably range from high to low
• Mountains too: very prominent ones are "high", important ones "mid", merely notable ones "low"
• Cities (for Croatia, this means that every
  designated city
  ) are at least "mid". These are chiefly settlements with population of more than 5000, so villages and remaining towns are invariably assessed as "low".

To me, the difference between "mid" and "low" is best explained as follows:

Importance assessment	Mid	Low
Could be described as...	Important	Notable, but not important
Average native person has heard of it and knows something about it	Very likely	Probably not
Likely to appear in a national paper encyclopedia	Very likely	Somewhat likely to very unlikely

Note: this is my personal "yardstick" rather than an official policy (there is none). And it is subjective after all, it can't be helped. GregorB (talk) 21:46, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought there might be some official policy but I guess it is normal that importance is in the eye of the beholder.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:50, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

This tool works for start class articles.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:12, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Although I generally agree with the above, there's a possible source of "inspiration" at Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Assessment#Importance scale - tailored to Germany, but you'll get the picture.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:31, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Tomobe03. Maybe it would be good to create similar subpage on WPS or WPCro with similar guidelines in order to reduce possibility of non consistency of future ratings.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:51, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Maybe, but there's no pressing need for those unless considerable numbers of editors perform such ratings - in which case their efforts need be coordinated. On the quality rating subject, I took a look at

cn}} tags where necessary (not as criticism per se, but pointers what need be added).--Tomobe03 (talk

) 11:22, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, both in case of Politikin Zabavnik (where I copied B class rating from WP Comics) and in case of "considerable numbers of editors" who perform such ratings. In order to attract more editors to resolve this huge backlog of unassessed articles I had an idea, besides 'moba' idea, to organize some kind of competition (diff). What do you think about it?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:40, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

If there are that many editors (presumably some of them misguided although acting in good faith), a review of some of the assessments may be useful. Wikiproject Good Articles employs a system (see

Yes, rating verification system is a good idea and developing wikiproject (involving more editors in the drive to resolve unassessed articles backlog is probably just one of many ways to do it) to have more featured and good content is what is most important. Thank you for your suggestions. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 12:51, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

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Here is a list of articles that probably belong to WP Serbia, but are not tagged as such: http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?depth=3&categories=Serbia+stubs&templates_no=WikiProject+Serbia&templates_use_talk_no=1&doit=1 - quite a few of them, and these are just stubs. GregorB (talk) 11:01, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

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