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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:42, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Francisco Gómez (footballer, born 1967)

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Contested BLAR. Article created by a blocked sockpupeteer evading a salting of Francisco Javier Gómez. Cites no sources containing significant coverage. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in the Philippines

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WP:USEFUL. I also advise those to create a Fandom page for your favorite sport if you want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete per Howard; as with many WP:TV Fliipino articles he had good intentions but nobody has brought any sources (six of them here), and it's as usual a complete free-for-all of poor overall organization and especially for the basketball section which gets down to semi-pro junior leagues only the gamblers and family are watching, a complete failure to understand that a list article should be a list, not a compilation of 'network fan drama'. Nate (chatter) 01:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in the Dominican Republic

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WP:USEFUL. I also advise those to create a Fandom page for your favorite sport if you want to save it so much. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 00:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Nylon Pink

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Sources on page do not appear to be reliable (except maybe LA Weekly, though it is a blog), and I couldn't find any other coverage aside from this very brief AllMusic bio. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 23:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete – Per nom. Most sources are now unavailable, and the band's notability is completely questionable. Svartner (talk) 05:31, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vasilisa Kaganovskaia

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Fails

WP:NSKATE; any medal placements are at the junior level. PROD was removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:49, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete per WP:NSKATE, as far as I can tell. Halfadaniel (talk) 05:32, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. The "Grand Prix" is not a senior-level national championship. Bearian (talk) 14:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Trimukhi Baavdi

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No reliable sources Sohom (talk) 20:34, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete per
    WP:RS. It's a hole in the ground. There's no allegation that this well is anything more than one of hundreds of thousands of wells, even if someone famous paid for it to be dug. There are no reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 14:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 00:46, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Som River

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Fails

WP:NGEO, no reliable sources. Google tells me https://guj-nwrws.gujarat.gov.in/showpage.aspx?contentid=1845&lang=english should be a source, however that appears to be statistics and a dead link. Sohom (talk) 20:26, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Sipu River

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Fails

WP:NGEO, no reliable sources. Google tells me https://guj-nwrws.gujarat.gov.in/showpage.aspx?contentid=1845&lang=english should be a source, however that appears to be statistics and a dead link. Sohom (talk) 20:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 00:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sports broadcasting contracts in Montenegro

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WP:LISTN. Also, no source whatsoever. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:32, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Delete - No merit under
WP:NLIST BrigadierG (talk) 10:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:32, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Volkswagen Golf Variant

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Model isn't notable in its own right to warrant an article, Each Golf article has a Variant section (and and none of the Golf articles even mentions this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Volkswagen_Golf_Variant), It would be like creating Volkswagen Golf Cariolet or Volkswagen Golf 3-door etc if that makes sense, no evidence of any notability, Fails GNG –Davey2010Talk 19:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete As noted in nom, discussion of variants belongs in individual articles; we don't need a separate article to aggregate those variants. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:53, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - no need for a redirect, or we would set ourselves up for redirects for every single bodystyle ever created of every car out there.  Mr.choppers | ✎  17:25, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Consensus to delete for non-notability. Valereee (talk) 14:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guarana (energy drink)

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Fails

WP:NPRODUCT. Admittedly, the name doesn't make searching the easiest, but I haven't found any significant coverage. ARandomName123 (talk
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blisk (web browser)

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As far as I can tell, the only notable source for this is Mashable. Hence, it currently fails

WP:GNG. I did a quick search and didn't really find any sources more notable. Allan Nonymous (talk) 22:00, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Weak Keep: A lot of the sources I found were press releases or overly promotional, but with the reviews from Mashable, Fossbytes and Softpedia, (both a little questionable but at least they have actual authors and ratings), and coverage of the data breach in Zdnet I think it can be kept. Weak keep because it only got coverage when it released and when it had a data breach and nothing really in between or after. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 19:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @StreetcarEnjoyer On 2 December 2023‎ the user Lotje has removed almost the whole article with lots of sources. I'm asking to revert the majority of changes. The software works and gets released constantly. Let's discuss on how to rewrite the features and press releases. Can you help with this? And85rew (talk) 08:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I am against including that content. The article does not need "features and press releases". The content that was removed is contrary to policy. I will remove it again if it's readded. If you have specific additions in mind, it's best to suggest them on the talk page. And if you have a conflict of interest, please disclose it. —Alalch E. 09:14, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Could you please explain why features are not needed? The features describe the software. The article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome names the key features (User interface, Built-in tools, Desktop shortcuts and apps, Extensions, Speed, Security, Privacy). Why cannot this article list the features of the software? And85rew (talk) 09:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article will never be the way it used to be. The misuse of Wikipedia at this page has been put to an end. It lasted for a while, but that time has come and gone. Disclose your conflict of interest. See the edit history of the article where the reasons for removal are stated in the edit summaries. —Alalch E. 09:53, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The experienced editor Alalch E. is correct here. The article in its prior status was exclusively cited to primary sources and violated the Wikipedia guidelines of not being a blatant advertisement. Features listed in other web browser pages like Google Chrome and Firefox are (mostly) cited to independent, reliable sources, have enough coverage in independent sources, and were given by other editors who generally do not have a conflict of interest. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 22:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. In all likelihood, I find the initial flurry of coverage to be almost certainly based substantially or entirely on press kit, i.e.
    not that. Alpha3031 (tc) 12:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete: I'd like to change my vote. Frankly the sourcing available is bad and sourcing a web browser entirely to "it was released and had a data breach once" is not a good idea. All the sources not about the data breach do sound like press release churnalism, even the Mashable article. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 23:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge‎ to Carrot cake. Liz Read! Talk! 22:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carrot cake cookie

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Non-notable cookie that does not pass

WP:SIGCOV. Should be merged into Carrot cake#UK and US if not deleted outright. BaduFerreira (talk) 21:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete I have bookmarked scores of cookies I'd like to try making. This one isn't in it, but it appears to be a prime example of something that's just an inspired recipe with many variations, not a notable dish that's cohesively described outside of a cookbook writer's introduction. This could be a sentence in Carrot cake. Reywas92Talk 02:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Carrot cake and redirect, at least for now. It's possible this one could get there -- oreo makes a version, subway and aldis have a version, I've added that content+refs. Gourmet did something in 2004, but on a quick search I'm not finding it, and it was not unlikely it was a simple recipe, but if anyone can figure out their archives, ping me to a link and I'll add. Commercial uptake is probably a promising sign for this cookie's notability, so it would be good to have that info at carrot cake for future consideration. Valereee (talk) 12:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Selective Merge to Carrot cake, which presently has no mention other than a link in its See also section. North America1000 10:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge as suggested, as a good compromise. Bearian (talk) 14:34, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Also, "Checking notability" is not a deletion rationale. Please do not bring articles to an AFD if you just want to check them out. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gaston Gelos

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Checking notability. Dejaqo (talk) 20:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Following a review of the article and its sources, I made some changes. With sources like [1], [2] an other citations in that, notability can be clearly demonstrated. Also he is frequently quoted by major financial media outlets including Bloomberg, CNBC, and the Financial Times, as an economist. Southati (talk) 14:33, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Looking on GS under both RG Gelos and Gaston Gelos seems sufficiently well cited for a pass of WP:Prof. (Msrasnw (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC))[reply]
  • Keep In addition to WP:Prof, clearly passes WP:GNG. Gedaali (talk) 20:17, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2023–24 CD Alcoyano season

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Contested PROD. Not playing in professional division, does not appear to meet

WP:GNG, not being regularly maintained Crowsus (talk) 20:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:56, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Jerusalem unrest

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Per

WP:NOTNEWS: "Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion" AusLondonder (talk) 20:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 22:59, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Shakira tribute albums

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Contested

WP:OR, I don't see anything worth merging. hinnk (talk) 20:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:01, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anuradha Bhattacharyya

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Main claim to fame in lede appears to be winning an Chandigarh

WP:SIGCOV and any other reliable sources in the article, just bibiographies and mentions. Was deleted previously by AfD and quickly recreated by the original author soon after. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/chandigarh/honour-for-17-authors-by-csa-52965 Cash prize mentioned. The Chandigarh Sahitya Akademi is the State Award in Literature. Without 'Chandigarh', Sahitya Akademi is the National award.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/features/sahitya-akademi-honour-for-writers-384418 This was in 2017 for the book One Word, same government body.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190204231321/http://chdpr.gov.in/dashboard/sites/default/files/Commendation%20Certificates%20for%20distinguished%20service.pdf This one is the State Honour from the government presented on the Republic Day of India, state level. For this, a police verification is conducted for eligibility. It is not a small matter to receive this honour in India. Atul Bhattacharyya (talk) 16:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This looks like a paid Job or an intention to promote subject article on wikipedia. I was just taking a look at the external link section and after clicking the twitter link I found out that the subject has already started promoting her wikipedia page by using the twitter link on her bio.

https://twitter.com/AnuradhaAuthor Beside that, subject article fails

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clementine cake

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Despite being a good article, not a single source has

WP:SIGCOV of this specific cake. The majority of sources are recipes which is fine if they're accompanied by significant coverage and discussion of the dish, but there isn't any. The only shred of notability that I'm seeing comes from being a minor plot in a 2013 film and supposedly being an adaption of an ancient Jewish cake. The sources for this second claim are a personal blog (which isn't a reliable source) and the Encyclopedia of Jewish Food which makes no mention of an orange cake that this article claims Clementine cake was adapted from. We need sources that speak about this cake's notability (not just more recipes) and if that doesn't exist, I believe a selective merge to Fruitcake#United States is the best option. BaduFerreira (talk) 20:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The claims about the ancient cake appear to be from the New York Times? Valereee (talk) 21:28, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice catch, I missed that. That source is a recipe on the
WP:SIGCOV. BaduFerreira (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
You also missed that the recipe is connected to an article. The NYT does that with their food writing: they write an article, and then they put the recipe(s) from that article into separate article/s with the main article attached with a "Featured in" link. Valereee (talk) 22:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh wow, I didn't realize that at all. Looking at the broader article shows where that earlier blurb came from: "The star of the feast came last: the Clementine Cake (pictured above). Baked by Dawn Datso, a family friend and professional pastry chef, it didn’t come from the book. But the cultural mash-up involved in its creation made it seem supremely appropriate. Years ago, while living in Malaysia, Ms. Datso was browsing in a library and came across a cookbook with some random recipe for Sephardic orange cake. A big fan of clementines, she eventually adapted the cake to feature them". The only
WP:SIGCOV that can be pulled from this source is a person adapted a recipe for Sephardic orange cake by adding clementines and made her friend a cake. The baker (Dawn Datso) is described as a professional pastry chef, but I can't find any information about her. This doesn't show that Clementine cake has any notability. BaduFerreira (talk) 22:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
You've been told twice before this on the talk that not every source used in an article has to represent significant coverage. Other RS can be used to support assertions. Valereee (talk) 22:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What sources currently used in this article show significant coverage? There isn't a single source used in this article that has significant coverage of
WP:100WORDS. BaduFerreira (talk) 22:55, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
Well, the Perelman source is quite lengthy. But even the sources you're objecting to for not having enough words -- that's an essay, btw, not policy -- are calling it famous and a classic. They're discussing its ancient roots and that it's a traditional Sephardic passover food. Significant coverage isn't just about wordcount. Sometimes it's about what they're saying and who's saying it. In this case, RS and experts from all over the world are saying it. Valereee (talk) 23:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I've added several more sources, although frankly I don't think this article needed it. The NYT has covered this cake multiple times. The Guardian has covered it. The San Francisco Chronicle. Claudia Roden has covered it. Nigella Lawson has covered it. Joyce Goldstein. It appears to be a cake that has ancient roots, which is always an indicator of notability. I didn't have to look very hard. Valereee (talk) 22:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This nomination gives me a weird feeling. First sources get removed and when they are restored and expanded on, a nomination follows. The Banner talk 23:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Enough coverage in the sources found and added by Valeree for a GNG pass. Rupples (talk) 19:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Quick keep per above. on a side note, the GA should be reassessed tho. I feel the article doesn't quite match the standards mainly due to its brief length. X (talk) 22:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. I failed to search for results using his nickname. (non-admin closure)JTtheOG (talk) 22:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bradley Porteous

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Cricketer BLP that fails

WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 19:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was moved to

alternative to deletion, per request. BD2412 T 15:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Amelia Hamer

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Only claim to notability is being a candidate for the next Australian federal election. Sources cover her in the context of winning a party selection process. She is not notable by virtue of connection with notable family members. It is long-standing practice that we don't create articles for unelected election candidates. AusLondonder (talk) 19:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General Mariano Alvarez Technical High School

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the article's topic is unnotable, the aricle contains 0 references, and is only 1 sentence long. Gaismagorm (talk) 19:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jaspa's Journey: The Great Migration

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the article seems to be promotional in nature, with it's only two references being from the publisher of the book, and the other being a website about the book. the articles creator has only only one edit, with it being the creation of this article. Gaismagorm (talk) 19:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1993 Space Machine

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Sourcing is exclusively interviews, with no critical commentary in sight. Metacritic turns up no critic reviews, and searches per

general notability guidelines. λ NegativeMP1 18:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Buran Parks

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African

WP:SIGCOV that I found was this coverage for winning a club player of the year award. JTtheOG (talk) 18:24, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete. Consensus is clear.
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Yaimara Aguilar

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a Cuban women's footballer, to meet

WP:GNG. The ideal redirect would be List of Cuba women's international footballers, which doesn't exist, but another user suggested a redirect to Cuba women's national football team. JTtheOG (talk) 18:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Volunthai

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I am struggling to find any recent information about Volunthai. Their website - volungthai.com - widely quoted in older online pages and previously in their wiki page (until I removed the reference) - points to a 'free hookup' site. The organisation appears to have always been very small. Can't find any associated organisations that I can link it with. Newhaven lad (talk) 17:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: It does not appear the organization exists anymore so if suitable sources exists, they will be hard to find. I searched ProQuest for the Washington Post and other sources mentioned in the article but those and others were all first hand accounts so
    ProQuest 308904716, an 26 August 2003 piece by The Bangkok Post titled "Building bridges" but only the abstract is available. S0091 (talk) 16:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah Gohar

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Little evidence of NPROF: citation record is wholly inadequate, and student awards don't count for much. There is some human-interest type coverage in conjunction with an ancient whale he was involved in studying, but I think that it is at best a

WP:BLP1E, with coverage all around Aug/Sep 2023. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 15:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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also should delete based on
WP:NOTRESUME User:Sawerchessread (talk) 16:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Delete. "pursuing a Ph.D. ... at Oklahoma State University", so he's not there yet. Maybe some time in the future. Athel cb (talk) 16:36, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll add a comment here, though I still think it's too soon. In some countries (Chile, for example, which I know far better than I know Egypt) it's not unusual to advance a long way in one's research career, and even acquire an international reputation, well before finishing one's doctorate. Getting a doctorate takes a long time, because unless one comes from a wealthy family one needs to work almost full-time as a university teacher at the same time. I don't know how much, if at all, that applies to Abdullah Gohar. Athel cb (talk) 09:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: How notable are the awards listed? Oaktree b (talk) 19:26, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not very. They are discussed here [3]. One is for "Student fieldwork in vertebrate paleontology", the other "To enable scientists from economically developing nations to present research at the SVP Annual Meeting". Russ Woodroofe (talk) 21:05, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete -- Athel cb's comments are very important to take into account. (in music, a lot of significant performers get their doctorates much later when they are financially secure enough to take the time off after their careers have already passed a notability stage), but typically the recognition of prior work + recent studies pays off in the form of indepedent coverage, and I'm not seeing it here. -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 10:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per
    WP:TOOSOON applies. Bearian (talk) 14:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Comment: I'm skeptical of why? What is
    WP:NPROF if the individual's research has appeared on a notable coverage which i can see through ABC news. I don't know how notable is the award, but it seems to be from a notable academy or institution which meets the policies and guidelines. Though it looks like TOOSOON, do deletion appy here? Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:22, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pierre Gervois

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Pretty random artist; article authored by a suspected paid editor. Biruitorul Talk 15:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: in general sources of
WP:YOUTUBE are not notable and usable except under specific criteria. most sources are not independent of author. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 16:35, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mikko Kärkkäinen

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The article on this guy’s company, RELEX Solutions, just got speedily deleted as spam. The article’s author is a suspected paid editor. I think I know where this is headed. Biruitorul Talk 15:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bed Kingdom

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Pretty random company; article authored by a suspected paid editor. Biruitorul Talk 14:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neeraj Tripathi

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Fails

WP:NPOLITICIAN too soon. Theroadislong (talk) 14:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Then please add them to the article! Theroadislong (talk) 08:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: As i understood
    WP:GNG, this candidate of BJP is not notable until he is victorius. TheChronikler7 (talk) 15:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎. A possible merge target, if applicable, can be discussed on the article's Talk page. Owen× 20:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of French loanwords in Persian

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Ehrmagerd, werds! As interesting as I find this, Wikipedia is

not a dictionary. PepperBeast (talk) 12:33, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 14:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: In general, same reasons as Mccapra. This article's intro could be improved, like List of loanwords in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic.
Also, comment, but we've nominated a ton of these type of "Loan words" articles for deletion today.
it seems that we are having a discussion about a large swathe of articles across multiple deletion discussion, and we should instead focus on maybe a broader discussion of these? User:Sawerchessread (talk) 18:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lists of abbreviations used on British Empire World War I medals

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This contains potential copyright violations, it is not adequately sourced, it provides more ambiguity than guidance, lack of provenance Keith H99 (talk) 12:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I had some challenges with the nomination, so I may have inadvertently nominated it more than once. That I can tell, it's an article that not been nominated prior to today, and has been generally ignored. The Article is a long list that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, for each and every item. This duplicates content from other sites, or hosts POV on interpretation, and is best consigned to the trash can, as I perceive it. Keith H99 (talk) 12:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The incorrect information in the article prompted me to take a look at the Silver War Badge article. This needed reworking, which has been done. That article could be corrected, I fail to see that as plausible for this article, hence nomination for deletion. Keith H99 (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There is a single usable reference in this article, to the National Archives [4], and that content sensibly is not quoted or summarized (because it can't be). This reference could be included with a single sentence at
    WP:NOTCATALOG if it were sourced by just replicating a complete list of unannotated items found in the original. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 06:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Delete - Clear violation of
    WP:NOT. Whether this is a directory or extract from the table of a textbook, it is not an encyclopaedic article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎. plicit 14:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Giuseppe Zappella

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fails

WP:GNG Joeykai (talk) 13:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep he is literally the current head coach of Juventus FC (women) [5], and a quick Google search returns plenty of articles about him. I recommend expanding and sourcing it instead, as the subject is clearly notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Angelo (talk) 15:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - Per above. Current manager of high profile team with ongoing career and had extensive pro career in pre internet era. I found [6], [7], and [8] among many more Italian sources. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 19:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per sources above which show notability. Clearly notable as both player and coach. Lazy nomination where no BEFORE has been performed. My Google search has this as the 3rd hit, which would have shown the nominator (had they bothered) that the article was simply in need of an update and clean. GiantSnowman 21:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment 12 lines in the lasentinella is not SIGCOV, calciogiappone.altervista.org is a blog and "Museo Grigio is an independent, non-political and non-profit association and aims to support, disseminate and promote the image of Alessandria Unione Sportiva, its culture, its history and its fans." Hardly unbiased. juventus.com is his employer and therefore non independent. Dougal18 (talk) 10:02, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. After discussion

WP:NCORP and associated subguidelines. This is a case in which I found the delete arguments as whole to be more policy compliant. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 14:47, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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5ire

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Fails

WP:ORGIND), or "best startup" type awards that don't convey inherent notability. ~ A412 talk! 09:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:12, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my experience, three well-chosen sources usually suffice to establish notability
WP:NCORP. My comment was to check if the current sources in the article would be enough, as I noticed from the edit history that some unacceptable sources were removed. This company has been making headlines for three reasons: first, it achieved unicorn status. Second, its token was listed on exchanges. Third, its collaborations have garnered a lot of media attention. About the first, as I red, you believe its WP:TOOSOON. In the second case, you would raised a concern that the sources might be too specific to cryptocurrency. In the third case, you clearly rejected it. I bring again some of the sources that I think meet the criteria. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and... . This article has potential, but I think there might be ways to strengthen it.Gedaali (talk) 11:25, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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In my experience, three well-chosen sources usually suffice to establish notability WP:NCORP. But your experience is limited by the fact that you have only ever commented on AfDs today. Moreover, rather than giving 3 well chosen sources, you pasted in 8. Source 3 does not mention 5ire, and 3 of these are all from the Economic Times so count as one. They are also not the fruit of new searches but sources already on the page, so already considered. I can put together a source analysis table, but which of these do you actually think are secondary sources that meet
WP:CORPDEPTH? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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I looked through the sources provided, and I think the Economic Times source actually has analysis, but in general, the rest of the provided sources fall short on
significant coverage, basically reprinting the funding announcement of "5ire raised money on a 1b+ valuation, here's what they said they're doing with it". ~ A412 talk! 17:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Comment Sourcing. No answer to my query above asking for which of those 8 sources meet CORPDEPTH, so I have analysed them all. As I say, 3 of them are from the Economic Times and count as one. That is moot too because only one of the Economic Times articles has anything substantive. My analysis lacks some work I did not check the reliability of sources that failed on other criteria. My feeling is they all look reliable, but appearances can be deceptive. I also did not check the independence, which will be affected if we find a press release or evidence of a press release that they are written off. My analysis is my own, and I am happy to discuss any points made. Here is the table:
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Independent?
Reliable? Significant coverage? Secondary? Overall value toward
ORGCRIT
Economic Times [12] [13] [14] Yes Yes Indian financial paper, part of the Times of India group. There are three links, the second has no coverage and the third is not significant, just reporting, along with others, the high valuation. It is the first of these that goes beyond that. Note that the first is also occasioned by the same issue - the valuation - but it leads the writer to dig out additional history and analysis and is significant and useful. The piece raises queries about the high valuation as no product is yet released. Note that my evaluation is based only on what I can see in preview as the content is paywalled and when I attempted to pay it told me that readers in Europe and California are prevented from making payments for their content. This is an Indian news source but I have no access to the content. However, my evaluation of the depth is based on the claim it is a 10 minute read, suggesting 1000-1500 words. Coupled with what I see, I believe this is significant analysis, but I could, in fact, be wrong. ETA, in light of the analysis below by Highking, I am unable to refute that analysis as I have not read the full text and cannot read it. I would have paid, but the content is geographocally restricted. I cannot therefore verify my view and could well be wrong. I am updating this to unkown. 17 April 16:28 Yes
Tech in Asia [15] Yes Probably reliable, I just haven't checked. No "And that brings us to today’s two-part Big Story. 5ire, a blockchain company that few had ever heard of a year ago, rocketed to unicorn status in July. On closer inspection, the deal seems doubtful, given it hasn’t yet launched a product or gotten significant traction." Yes It is occasioned by news but the quoted paragraph, just about all it says on 5ire, is analysis. Extremely brief analysis.
inc 42 [16] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Partial. Inasmuch as it is news reporting, it is a primary source.
Business Standard [17] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Partial. Inasmuch as it is news reporting, it is a primary source.
Money Control [18] Is this off the back of a press release? Probably. I haven't verified. No There is some coverage, but it is all company supplied history and no analysis. Does not meet CORPDEPTH. No Report of becoming unicorn. Primary news reporting
Mint [19] Is this off the back of a press release? Unclear. If this is Mintpress news, then this is no. Mintpress news are a deprecated source. But I think they may be different. No There is some information about 5ire but does not meet CORPDEPTH. It is all company supplied history and no analysis. No Report of acquisition of a stake in Network Capital. This is primary news reporting.
My summary: we have one source counting towards notability, but sources must be multiple. We are not there yet. I also note the source that points out lack of any products. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see a couple of issues with your analysis. The Tech in Asia article seems quite significant. With over ten paragraphs, and repeated mentions of 5ire (10 times), it appears to offer a detailed exploration of the topic. Why wouldn't you consider it significant? Do you consider it as a "passing mention"? I did not see this website among the unreliable news websites that you doubt its reliability. Also there are two other sources from same website, The convicted fraudster backing 5ire, ‘India’s 105th unicorn’ and 5ire investors angry over delay on promised refunds. CEO blames mystery fund. Regarding the second source of the Economic Times, reference number 4 and 5 are essentially the same and the problem is presented in the link. Anyway, 5ire wins the AIBC 2022 'Social Impact Project of the Year' award, this article looks like it covers the subject quite significantly. In my opinion, this article meets the
WP:SIGCOV. Also, I'm not sure about reliability and independence of Blockchain Unicorn 5ire Unveils a New Approach Towards Sustainability Pratik Gauri, CEO - 5ire, please check it out. Gedaali (talk) 16:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
You are commenting on an NCORP AfD. So I have repeatedly mentioned
WP:CORPDEPTH
. This is the relevant test for significant coverage:

Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. Such coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization.

You are new to AfD, and very welcome here, but I think you are missing something here. Not surprising. NCORP AfDs have a lot to consider. But what have we got about this company that allows us to write more than a stub that tells us it has a big valuation? What notable thing does it do? The sources considered above indicate a lack of product, so it is not just this AfD asking that question. That last one you just asked me to look at purports to answer the question, but it doesn't. All it tells us is that it is a proof of stake blockchain. Sorry... a sustainable proof of stake blockchain. Whatever that means. I mean... all proof of stake is eminently more sustainable than proof of work. But How is that notable? I suppose it may become notable if people start using it. But it isn't yet. But then, you might say that at least that source is telling us about a product. Except it is telling us about a product in 5ire's words with 5ire's diagrams and 5ire's examples. That piece is clearly not independent. So nope, we can't use that. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:06, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation! I appreciate the clarification. I think your last explanation was about Outlook, perhaps we discuss that another time, but for now. About 3 sources of
WP:CORPDEPTH and their absence in Examples of trivial coverage consider them as significant coverage. You asked about this company's product. Going back to the above comments posted by others. This company has a track record of providing service. I do not expect physical product/service from this company. Their collaborations are focused on delivering service, not on promoting each other or their own agendas. For example their collaboration with Goa Police was in order to digitize its operations and utilization of paperless document by using blockchain technology (3) and also delivered other services in their other collaborations. This company's product are its services. About its service delivery, I think it has been discussed enough here service delivery.Here is my analysis of several sources: Gedaali (talk) 05:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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This company has a track record of providing service. No it doesn't. The example you cite is a Memorandum of Understanding to assist Goa police with something that is, in any case, unrelated to the blockchain. It is an MoU. They haven't done anything yet. This all looks like press release and vapourware. To be honest, at this point I am concerned this looks like an investor scam and we are being made participants in it. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:36, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After reviewing all the comments that have been posted in this discussion so far, evidences and clues, I agree with you. Delete. Gedaali (talk) 19:55, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Economic Times [20] Yes Yes Yes Yes
Economic Times [21] Yes Yes Yes This article refers to the award of this company, but it also deals with other issues Yes
Tech in Asia [22] Yes Yes Yes I checked this from WP:CORPDEPTH and the entire article consists of more than ten paragraphs focusing on the company Yes
Tech in Asia [23] Yes Yes Yes Yes

For now, these 4 cases are enough for analysis. Gedaali (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The question (as with many of these crypto articles...) seems to be whether the alleged fraud has generated enough in-depth coverage to merit inclusion. Citing (talk) 15:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reply to second table I have already explained to you that you should aggregate multiple sources from the same publisher. For notability purposes, sources must be unrelated to each other to be "multiple". per
WP:TOOSOON for an article about the alleged fraud? Or could we be looking at renaming this article and repurposing based on reliable secondary coverage of alleged fraud? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:56, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]
I am just going to expand on my view that there is no product here, because checking the crypto exchanges, you can actually buy 5irechain tokens [24] as of last December. Hopefully you didn't, as the price is falling... but meh, it's crypto. However that token would suggest there is a blockchain product. Except there isn't. Here is an announcement for what you can buy: [25]. This is an ERC-20 token which uses the Ethereum blockchain. So we still don't have any actual blockchain, and what we have is just another cryptocurrency token. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
this has no byline, neither does this which indicates NEWSORGINDIA. You will notice that second one starts with location which is classic press-release style confirming churnalism. For this and this are from a publication that does not appear to have editorial oversight. Not to mention the writer is a freelancer journalist who writes for many different publications. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is a company therefore GNG/
    in-depth information *on the company*
    . "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. In plain English, this means that references cannot rely *only* on information provided by the company - such as articles that rely entirely on quotations, press releases, announcements, interviews, website information, etc - even when slightly modified. If it isn't *clearly* showing independent content then it fails ORGIND. Looking at the references which other editors claim to pass GNG/NCORP in their analysis tables above:
    • TechInAsia Article 1 has insufficient in-depth information on the company from a source unaffiliated with the company, fails
      WP:ORGIND
    • TechInAsia Article 2 ais commenting on the same story as Article 1, is little more than a gossip column but more importantly, has zero in-depth information about the company, also fails CORPDEPTH
    • Article 3 and Article 4 from TechInAsia also both fail for the same reason, there is insufficient in-depth information about the company.
    • There are a couple of articles in the Economic Times. This one is a puff profile based entirely on information provided by the company and their execs after their funding announcement, fails ORGIND and CORPDEPTH. This one also appears to rely entirely on information originating from the company or people connected with the company or investors. Fails CORPEPTH and ORGIND.
    • This from Inc42 is based entirely on an interview and information provided by the company, fails ORGIND
    • This in the Business Standard is also regurgitating information provided by the company in an announcement, fails ORGIND
    • This from MoneyControl fails for the same reason
    • This in Livemint is just one of many many article on this date regurgitating the company announcement. You can see a list of other articles on Crunchbase following the announcement. Fails ORGIND
None of the references meet GNG/
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lyle Adams

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fails

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The result was keep‎. plicit 14:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio Susini (baseball)

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fails

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Gergő Máté

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Máté played 67 mins of professional football then completely disappeared. I can't even find evidence of any statistical coverage of an amateur career. The best that I could find were Nemzeti Sport and Rangadó, both being trivial mentions and far from

WP:SPORTBASIC, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Szabolcs Horváth

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Played in 2 matches 15 years ago but has only played in the lower tiers since and does not seem to have any

WP:SIGCOV. The best that I could find in Hungarian sources were HEOL, Rangadó and Nemzeti Sport, none of which are even close to being in-depth coverage. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was delete‎. plicit 14:20, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firside Junior School

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Fails GNG and NORG. Sources in article and BEFORE did not support notability. Found routine mill news, database records, etc, nothing establishing notability.

Being the "is the closest junior school in the United Kingdom to an airport" is not a basis for notability.  // Timothy :: talk  11:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Procedural close, this is a redirect not an article. It needs to be nominated at

WP:RFD. Liz Read! Talk! 06:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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It's a typing error. Title doesn't make any sense. — Hemant Dabral (📞) 11:17, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Mojo Hand (talk) 13:37, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brian Grosz

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The article doesn't cite any sources (only linking the subject's MySpace profile and a music project's website) and I was unable to find significant coverage. There's an interview with the Dogs of Winter where Grosz speaks for the band, but interviews don't contribute to notability. Grosz is, of course, mentioned at least a few times on the website of the college he went to (Vassar College), but that's not really anything either. I don't see an alternative to deletion. This is the page creator's only article, and it was previously speedy-deleted. toweli (talk) 11:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Krankschaft

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Unreferenced article since 2012. Being the backing band of someone with a Wikipedia page and having members with Wikipedia pages does not make this band notable as notability is not inherited. A look online for significant coverage doesn't yield much - a post on jericsmith.com is a self-published blog, and I'm unable to find anything else substantial. InDimensional (talk) 11:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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RYNA

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Nothing of notability in the article, a single TV appearance isn't enough for

WP:BAND criteria. One member was in another band of notability, however notability is not inherited. A look online brings up no coverage whatsoever. InDimensional (talk) 11:14, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Scarlet Carmina

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Only notability is having a song featured on a DVD release, they seem to not pass

WP:BAND. Both references in the article are from very local news sources, and an online search brings up no additional coverage. InDimensional (talk) 11:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The Reelers

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Unsourced since 2011, some moderate achievements in the lead section but not sure if enough to pass

WP:BAND. A search on the web for references brings up nothing on them, even when including band members names into the search. InDimensional (talk) 11:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was Speedy keep.

WP:SNOW. (non-admin closure)GRuban (talk) 13:31, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Russell Bentley

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This individual is of little

notability. Barely covered in any media. He only recently resurfaced due to being missing. Definitely does not deserve his own article. BeŻet (talk) 10:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep, per above. Providing one more additional link btw. [31] PoisonHK Sapiens dominabitur astris 10:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, people have short memories but Bentley received a lot of coverage in 2014 when he first went to fight with the separatists. He was interviewed at the time by Vice and Newsweek. He has not only just become of interest due to reports of his alleged disappearance. --Katangais (talk) 16:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, He is now reported mudered. I looked up this article when I saw a report of his death PeterNimmo (talk) 16:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, He has been a subject of interest many times since the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine in 2014. 2600:1007:B037:10F5:1556:E6F3:9C9A:6781 (talk) 19:20, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, per Klbrain and Katangais. Multiple, independent reliable sources over a period of time should demonstrate notability. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 20:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge‎ to CID (Indian TV series)#Cast. plicit 14:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of episodic appearances in CID

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Everything mentioned here (and more) is (or can be) covered in CID (Indian TV series)#Cast. Recommend redirect. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:15, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please give me 2 days of time so that I can add a long list of names so that this article is independent enough. Please don't delete this article. 103.87.143.74 (talk) 05:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please read
WP:NLIST and add enough applicable references that discuss the list (and not just the list entries). AfDs last for a week at minimum, so you have lots of time. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎.

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Intercontinental Hotel Bali

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Fails

WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 09:03, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Keep Notable hotel with plenty of potential sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. All the references provided above are essentially reviews from past customers, and I don't consider reviews from past customers to be a reliable source due to their lack of
    significant coverage requirement. Ckfasdf (talk) 12:20, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep. Clearly notable. Cunard has dug up plenty of reliable, independent, in-depth discussions of the hotel, which could be used for an extensive article. It would be surprising if a hotel of this size and calibre had not been noted. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:51, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:03, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. PhantomSteve/talk¦contribs\ 10:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Club Med Ria Bintan

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Fails

WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 08:48, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Keep Appropriately sourced, meets requirements.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:12, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Hotels[reply]
  • Keep. Well sourced and clearly notable. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:05, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment For some reason, the nominator considers that all the hotels and resorts in Bintan Regency fail to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 08:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mayang Sari Beach Resort

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Fails

WP:CORP. Insufficient independent significant coverage. Uhooep (talk) 08:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

Delete, no independent source provided. Neocorelight (Talk) 03:31, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pulling out my !vote because
    WP:HEY. I have no opinion now. Neocorelight (Talk) 22:35, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep. I pumped the article up a bit. There are plenty of sources, including various books, unfortunately mostly just in snippet view. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:18, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Notable beach resort...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 08:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Moderate nationalism

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The content of this article seems to be a

WP:REDUNDANTFORK that entirely overlaps with information already on the Civic nationalism page. Is there any appetite for deletion on this, or perhaps any other, basis? Yr Enw (talk) 08:09, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was no consensus‎. CBE meets weak sourcing. No indication a 3rd relist would change the split here. Star Mississippi 01:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leslie Butterfield

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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of WP:notability under SNG or GNG. Basically a promotional -resume. The lead just says that he is a British brand and communications expert.

The references are just a collection of mentions / announcements on him. Nothing anywhere near even one GNG source.

Some concern that the creator has 28 lifetime edits, all on this article. Article was tagged for UPE concern by somebody else and the tag was quickly removed by an IP. The IP that removed it has 2 lifetime edits...one removing the tag and the other putting a link at another article to this article. North8000 (talk) 03:18, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, looking at it again, I think it's obvious that there's an undeclared COI here and I'm going to tag the article accordingly. 07:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Dozens every year in a country of 67 million is not many! These are highly prestigious honours. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:41, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While I think that wp:notability does unofficially take real world notability into account a bit, for biographies the core of it is about available of GNG sources from which to build an article. As I noted in the nomination "The references are just a collection of mentions / announcements on him. Nothing anywhere near even one GNG source. " Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 15:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Neutral - I added the Authority control template at the bottom of the article. For what it's worth, that did kick up VIAF hits in multiple languages that show his woks are in various international libraries. Seems to me that makes him notable.— Maile (talk) 14:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changing to Neutral. I am not British. and not knowledgeable on the subject matter. — Maile (talk) 15:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

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Dialdirect

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Cannot find any sources proving notable, other than advertising. Not to be confused with the UK company "Dial Direct". GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 05:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Amount of failed verifications makes me wonder if aside from the from the company existing, the rest of the article is fictitious. -- D'n'B-t -- 10:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:24, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Defiant (band)

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A newly created band consisting of notable members fails to establish independent notability. I tried, but couldn't find significant coverage in third-party reliable sources. A Google News search yielded some sources, but they mostly consist of passing mentions or routine coverage. IMO, it fails to meet the criteria outlined in

WP:NOTINHERITED. GSS💬 07:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Music, and United States of America. GSS💬 07:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep meets
    WP:BAND#C6, coverage in the Boston Globe and Phoenix New Times. Mach61 08:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    I doubt these sources discuss the band in detail; rather, they likely provide routine coverage. GSS💬 08:45, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @GSS why are you writing this as if you haven't actually read the linked articles Mach61 17:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's your assumption; nothing else. Could you explain how the sources you mentioned above satisfy
    WP:INDEPTH? GSS💬 17:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    @GSS The New Times piece is over 1000 words long Tangential:INDEPTH links to WP:Notability (events), which is obviously not applicable in this case. Perhaps you caught a case of WP:UPPERCASE? Mach61 18:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ⁤I agree that the article is lengthy, but it seems to lack sufficient independent focus on the band itself. ⁤⁤Throughout this article, the band's name is mentioned only five times, excluding the title and image description, and often in passing. ⁤⁤It's quite normal to receive such attention in the media when the subject is linked to notable people. ⁤⁤However, as of now, since the band was formed, it hasn't achieved anything notable. ⁤⁤They have released a few single and only one album, and that too on a non-notable label. ⁤⁤While the band has garnered some attention because of its notable founding members, this doesn't establish independent notability. Therefore, I would say it's too soon for an independent article until the band becomes independently notable. GSS💬 04:36, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @GSS Your statement that Throughout this article, the band's name is mentioned only five times, excluding the title and image description, and often in passing} is nonsensical, the term "passing mention" refers to coverage 1-2 sentences long in an article. Obviously, an article about the band is not a passing mention of them.
    Your statement that the band hasn't "achieved" anything notable is just an opinion; I've already shown two sources covering them in detail Mach61 23:16, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Meets
    WP:NMUSIC#6 and #12 (featured on Jimmy Kimmel Live). I don't think the Boston Globe article meets SIGCOV because it only really states the band has formed and the members; the rest of it is about Barrett and the Bosstone's. However, the Phoenix New Times does meet SIGCOV with a nice overview of their debut album which in combination with the other criteria, gets it over the hump for me. S0091 (talk) 15:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on

"soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. plicit 00:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Rayyanza Malik Ahmad

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Another case of

WP:INVALIDBIO. Child's notability is solely attributed to their parent, and it's highly unlikely for a two-year-old to have achieved notable accomplishments. Ckfasdf (talk) 09:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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The result was keep‎. plicit 00:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of loanwords in Assyrian Neo-Aramaic

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Ehrmagerd, werds! As interesting as I find this, Wikipedia is

not a dictionary. PepperBeast (talk) 12:35, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Keep: the introduction is clearly not a dictionary. the list defines some words but is mostly serving the functions of a list. should be fine enough as is to keep that too User:Sawerchessread (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and this article is not a dictionary entry. I don't know what gave the nom the idea that articles about linguistics and etymology are somehow not encyclopedic, prompting them to launch their current "Ehrmagerd, werds!" deletion campaign. Owen× 14:55, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Does not read like a dictionary entry, it is a list – and a quality one at that. ~
    talk) 15:00, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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MontageJS

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Currently unreferenced save for an arstechnica piece written by the creators of the framework. Searches on Google result in either Yellowpages-style listings or Githubs. Books return in trivial mentions in author biographies. The fact that the author was SPA on this topic does not help. For these reasons I believe it fails GNG. Good day—RetroCosmos talk 04:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Just looked at their website. Copyright 2017. Another framework that didn't get off the ground. — Sean Brunnock (talk) 14:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:22, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2018 Garland mayoral special election

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Article was incorrectly PRODed [32] after being through an AfD at

Nickps (talk) 20:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

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  • Keep. Unexciting but notable. Elections are never routine. The two relistings suggest to me that AfD participants are being overwhelmed by the volume of nominations. Perhaps we need to tweak policy – so that a few more small-town mayors and random psychology professors are allowed in – in order to keep AfD at a manageable level. I find using Google Translate to make sense of Indonesian-language articles that are better than their English-language counterparts is increasingly draining. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 03:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ow, I would love to see more articles about mayors in small towns/municipalities. The Netherlands had many tiny municipalities (often with less then 500 inhabitants). That those municipalities often survived only a few years is a small detail. The Banner talk 16:02, 13 April 2024 (UTC) No worries. It is true but I am not going to spend time on that.[reply]
  • Delete Nothing really here. Wikipedia is not a database of election results. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:25, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Per NOTDIR and nom. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, Pppery, and The Herald. Every local election gets local coverage, which is insufficient to show encyclopedic notability. BD2412 T 02:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. revised article per the improvements made during this discussion. As for whether this should be subsequently moved or split, that's editorial and doesn't need a relist. Star Mississippi 01:59, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stars and planetary systems in fiction

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This is an extreme (almost 400kb) case of fancrufty "list of appearances of foo topic in every imaginable work" (books, comics, games...). The topic may be notable (recent talk discussion suggests

WP:OR). No prejudice to this being turned into a prose-based stub or start-class if anyone (TompaDompa?) wants to work on this, otherwise we may have to redirect it or just delete it, I am afraid. Note that this list is still growing with unrerenced ORish content (see diff from late March). Sigh. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

*Delete as it currently is. The current article is rife with a multitude of pretty major issues as described already - poor sourcing,

WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. If the current content was replaced by the draft shared by TompaDompa above, then I would be happy to keep that version, but this current list should absolutely not be retained as it is. Rorshacma (talk) 03:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
]

  • Delete per
    WP:SALAT. Far too broad to be useful. A sizable chunk of science fiction involves other planets and star systems. (Also, no Ringworld?) Clarityfiend (talk) 11:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Note, then why not just go with the version by TompaDompa mentioned and linked above? If the nominator said they'd withdraw the nom if that version is used, and !voters agree, I'm not understanding the problem, which seems to have that easy solution. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:16, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - As TompaDompa said, they attempted to rewrite the article to the version they proposed back in 2021, and after lengthy pushback on the Talk page, it was reverted back to the current version of the article. As they said that they were hesitant on changing it back to their version to avoid looking like they were independently ignoring that previous discussion, I made the statement that I would remove my recommendation to Delete if their version were used instead in order to hopefully show a consensus for them to go ahead with that rewrite. I'd imagine the other commenters and nom have similar thinking. Rorshacma (talk) 15:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Randy Kryn Maybe ping those editors and ask? Not everybody follows discussions after commenting. I concur that deleting is strictly inferior to replacing this with something else. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not an editor, just a lowly user, but I just wanted to say I love this page and use it all the time to suggest colony names when I'm gaming. I'll be sad to see it go.
Will the historical versions of this page still be available once it's gone. 108.31.3.18 (talk) 02:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If it does get deleted, try the Wayback Machine as it has numerous backups of the page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 04:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hear you, and I hope this will be preserved in history. Even better - if someone would care enough to copy this to TVTROPES... maybe you'd like to help? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move (or just merge? It wasn't the original scope of the article) to
    Planets in science fiction to tighten the scope and make it less arbitrary. Merge the "stars" section to Star, adding an "in fiction" section. I assume it must have had one at some point, but probably got spun off to sweep the cruft under the rug. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 05:03, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep per
    WP:HEY (assuming it is kept as the TompaDompa prose version). It really can't be kept the way it was though, per all the arguments made above. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 18:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
  • Keep. This is a perfectly good article, or at any rate capable of being so, at least in the form I am seeing, which is possibly after some
    WP:OR is to be invoked when there's a problem. There's no problem here, it's just incomplete. Sure the article could become really big, maybe too big (but I mean adding material to articles so that they become bigger is not a bad thing), in which case it can be split up or trimmed using some reasonable criteria. Sure, there are articles that don't belong here on account of being too detailed about a subject. But this isn't one.
    Also I dislike terms like "fancrufty", which doesn't put me in a receptive mood as it just bourgeois snobbery and indicates that you are coming the matter with prejudgement, particularly when we are talking about "science fiction in general" rather than "Star Wars" or something. I'd prefer if terms like that are avoided. Herostratus (talk) 06:39, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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    @Herostratus: If you are curious, this is what the article looked like when it was nominated. Which obviously bears very little resemblance to the current version. TompaDompa (talk) 14:52, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wait wait wait wut? Keep and restore. Y'all practically erased the article. Why. Why would you do that. What do you think we are trying to do here??? It was better before. Well, after the article is kept we can talk about that I suppose.
    As I said, original research is only a problem if its a problem. If you're synthesizing a new idea, or implying something in error. The idea here seems to be "Lots of science fiction stories have stars and planets in them", which is not a new idea. It's just true. If you're saying the idea is "Lots of science fiction stories have stars and planets in them, and we're cherry-picking only some of them to make some point", that's not true. The writers are not doing that. It's just that the article is not complete. So what is the problem? Don't
    ALL CAPS at me about this rule and that rule. We all know there are a lot of rules here, many contradictory, and that the devil can quote scripture. Tell me in plain English why you all want to prevent the reader from getting access to this information. It's not like we're trying to decide if its worth our time to make this article. Somebody already has. It's just a question of whether or not to increase entropy by scattering this information to the wind.
    The "primary-secondary-tertiary" rubric is taken from academia. It is fine for academia (I guess) but for what we are trying to do here, not so much. It's one data point of many to consider, yes. But don't give me four legs good two legs bad. We're supposed to be using our brains here. We are talking about throwing a fair amount of some people's work into the dustbin. Tell me why, in this article, the use of primary sources degrades the reader's experience. Can you? I'm all ears. Should the article include only those entities where some obscure reviewer has randomly happened to note "This article takes place on Alph Woo" and not include those where the review randomly hasn't? Why. Why. Good grief.
    It there's stuff that's not ref'd, ref it. If you don't have the time or interest to do that (quite understandable), tag it. If there's reason to believe it's maybe not true, delete it. Keep in mind that, for good or ill, works of literature are considered reliable sources for their own contents here. We don't need refs to describe the contents or plot of a movie or book, the rubric is "To check the accuracy of this data, get a copy of the book". Otherwise 90%+ of our plot sections of books and movies would have to be deleted.
    Sorry to be harsh, but if you all are going to be trying to pull stuff like this, you are going to be called to task. It's depressing to see what we are more and more becoming. Herostratus (talk) 18:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
    ]
    In plain English, compiling raw data about works of fiction is not Wikipedia's purpose, nor is analysing the same (it is, however, TV Tropes' and Wikia/Fandom's purpose). Compiling analysis about works of fiction made by others is, however. The latter approach has resulted in several WP:Featured articles: Mars in fiction, Venus in fiction, and Sun in fiction. TompaDompa (talk) 20:38, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 06:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clarksdale, Indiana

Clarksdale, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A "no there there" intersection, there's a single house and that's it. Searching is masked by the place in Mississippi but turned up nothing. Mangoe (talk) 02:27, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Though it appears as a named point on topo maps[33], there's nothing actually there except an unremarkable intersection, and I see no sign of it on any historical maps. ╠╣uw [talk] 13:37, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The Brown County Democrat mentions it once. Coverage goes back to 1914. It doesn't appear in the book "From Needmore to Prosperity : Hoosier place names in folklore and history" either. Something was probably there at one time, but I don't know what it was.James.folsom (talk) 22:01, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎.

(non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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List of first-class cricket centuries by W. G. Grace

List of first-class cricket centuries by W. G. Grace (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The cricketer does not even have the most number of first class cricket centuries. For example, Jack Hobbs does not have a page for his fc centuries. For convention, this has beend done for cricketers having more than 25 international centuries. Hence, this article should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharaoh496 (talkcontribs) 06:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep I understand the motive for this nomination, given we usually have limit the number of articles like this to record holders for nations etc, but given Grace is probably one of the games greatest players, and one of the players instrumental in the development of the game an article like this, which is incredibly well sourced and deemed good enough to be a featured article is good enough to keep it. There is coverage in articles of his hundreds also, whether in biographies, or more recently in debate whether or not one of many of his hundreds were first class. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:04, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There would be as good players. People can make properly sources articles - but its first class, and not international test cricket; not being as notable Pharaoh496 (talk) 09:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is irrelevant, as there's significant coverage of his centuries. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Don’t make rules by your own. It doesn’t matter if he’s the highest century scorer or not. The minimum threshold of 25 int. centuries is an informal guideline. The fact is that his centuries have been discussed and received coverage in multiple books and online articles. Clearly satisfies the criteria of
    WP:GNG. RoboCric Let's chat 14:18, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep his centuries are covered in multiple books, and therefore passes
    WP:NLIST, particularly One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:08, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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  • Keep - Notable Page and clearly passes
    WP:GNG coverage. 103.121.36.100 (talk) 03:00, 15 April 2024 (UTC).[reply
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The result was keep‎.

(non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Irena Justine

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Fails

WP:GNG, most of these sources barely seem to qualify this person as notable. Allan Nonymous (talk) 01:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply
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Keep Seems important, and references seem legit. In general, multiple references talking about the subject like this is probably enough to indicate notability. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

:*Keep There is no indication that the nominator has done

WP:BEFORE before creating a deletion page [34]. He also lack the ability to understand about Indonesian subject and notability of sources used in the article as he did here in other nomination page that he created [35] [36]. 202.43.93.9 (talk) 03:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply
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202.43.93.9 (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Keep. I added some references from the Indonesian article. I think she had many important roles. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 02:31, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Subjects who are notable in Indonesia are just as important as subjects who are notable in the US, and article editors are improving the references. rspεεr (talk) 17:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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