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Hello! Welcome to one of my Archive Pages. This page contains all comments and discussions that took place on my User Talk Page, were inactive for 15 days or more, and have been archived by a robot. If you would like to leave me a new message or revive some old discussion please leave me a note at my current talk page found here. Thanks and All the Best, --Mifter (talk) 17:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)




WikiProject AFC needs your help... again

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
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WikiCup 2013 June newsletter

We are down to our final 16: the 2013 semi-finals are upon us. A score of 321 was required to survive round 3, further cementing this as the most competitive WikiCup yet; round 3 was survived in 2012 with 243 points, in 2011 with 76 points and in 2010 with 250 points. The change may in part be to do with the fact that more articles are now awarded bonus points, in addition to more competitive play. Reaching the final has, in the past, required 573 points (2012, a 135% increase on the score needed to reach round 4), 150 points (2011, a 97% increase) and 417 points (2010, a 72% increase). This round has seen over a third of participants claiming points for featured articles (with seven users claiming for multiple featured articles) and most users have also gained bonus points. However, the majority of points continue to come from good articles, followed by did you know articles. In this round, every content type was utilised by at least one user, proving that the WikiCup brings together content contributors from all corners of the project.

Round 3 saw a number of contributions of note.

Boletus luridus
.

A rules reminder: content promoted between rounds can be claimed in the round after the break, but not the round before. The case in point is content promoted on the 29/30 June, which may be claimed in this round. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. We are currently seeing concern about the amount of time people have to wait for reviews, especially at GAC- if you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail
) 09:46, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Amusement Park Quarter 3, 2013 Newsletter

22:56, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 July newsletter

We're halfway through this year's penultimate round, and the competition is moving along well. Pool A's

Norman conquest of England by Wyoming Ealdgyth (submissions), and good articles on Nobel laureate in literature Henryk Sienkiewicz, Nobel laureate in physics Hans Bethe, and the noted Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū. These articles are by Poland Piotrus (submissions), Australia Hawkeye7 (submissions
) and Sturmvogel_66 respectively.

Other than that, there is not much to report! If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail
) 23:11, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK RfC

  • As a listed DYK participant, you are invited to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the question of whether Good Articles should appear in the Did You Know? slot in future. Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Thank you in advance. Gilderien Chat|Contributions00:20, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

STiki emergency

WikiCup 2013 August newsletter

This year's final is upon us. Our final eight, in order of last round's score, are:

  1. Australia Hawkeye7 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer who has contributed on topics of military history and physics, including a number of high-importance topics. Good articles have made up the bulk of his points, but he has also scored a great deal of bonus points. He has the second highest score overall so far, with more than 3000 points accumulated.
  2. New South Wales Casliber (submissions), another WikiCup veteran who reached the finals in 2012, 2011 and 2010. He writes on a variety of topics including botany, mycology and astronomy, and has claimed the highest or joint highest number of featured articles every round so far this year. He has the third highest score overall, with just under 3000 points accumulated.
  3. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions), 2012 WikiCup champion, who writes mostly on marine biology. She has also contributed to high-importance topics, seeing huge numbers of bonus points for high-importance featured and good articles. Previous rounds have seen her scoring the most bonus points, with scoring spread across did you knows, good articles and featured articles.
  4. Canada Sasata (submissions), a WikiCup veteran who finished in second place in 2012, and competed as early as 2009. He writes articles on biology, especially mycology, and has scored highly for a number of collaborations at featured article candidates.
  5. Naval history
    , and he has scored a very large number of points for good articles and good article reviews in every round. He is the highest scorer overall this year, with over 3500 points in total.
  6. Wyoming Ealdgyth (submissions), who is competing in the WikiCup for the second time, though this will be her first time in the final. A regular at FAC, she is mostly interested in British medieval history, and has scored very highly for some top-importance featured articles on the topic.
  7. London Miyagawa (submissions), a finalist in 2012 and 2011. He writes on a broad variety of topics, with many of this year's points coming from good articles about Star Trek. Good articles make up the bulk of his points, and he had the most good articles back in round 2; he was also the highest scorer for DYK in rounds 1 and 2.
  8. restoration work leading to featured picture credits, but has also done some article writing and reviewing.

We say goodbye to eight great participants who did not qualify for the final: Poland Piotrus (submissions), Idaho Figureskatingfan (submissions), Ohio ThaddeusB (submissions), Michigan Dana boomer (submissions), Prince Edward Island Status (submissions), United States Ed! (submissions), Florida 12george1 (submissions), England Calvin999 (submissions). Having made it to this stage is still an excellent achievement, and you can leave with your heads held high. We hope to see you all again next year. Signups are now open

for the 2014 WikiCup, which will begin on 1 January. All Wikipedians, whatever their interest or level of experience, are warmly invited to participate in next year's competition.

This last month has seen some incredible contributions; for instance, Cwmhiraeth's Starfish and Ealdgyth's Battle of Hastings—two highly important, highly viewed pages—made it to featured article status. It would be all too easy to focus solely on these stunning achievements at the expense of those participants working in lower-scoring areas, when in fact all WikiCup participants are doing excellent work. A mention of everything done is impossible, but here are a few: Last round saw the completion of several good topics (on the 1958, 1959 and 1962 Atlantic hurricane seasons) to which 12george1 had contributed. Calvin999 saw "S&M" (song), on which he has been working for several years, through to featured article status on its tenth try. Figureskatingfan continued towards her goal of a broad featured/good topic on Maya Angelou, with two featured and four good articles. ThaddeusB contributed significantly to over 20 articles which appeared on the main page's "in the news" section. Adam Cuerden continued to restore a large number of historical images, resulting in over a dozen FP credits this round alone. The WikiCup is not just about top-importance featured articles, and the work of all of these users is worthy of commendation.

Finally, the usual notices: If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail
) 05:11, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Template

Hello, Mifter,
I came across your template for the First Day of Spring and wondered if you created one for other seasons of the year. I'd love to use it later this week. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 14:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello! I do happen to have templates for all four seasons, they can be found at {{
Charles R. Chickering (artist) page for DYK review. At first it was approved by two other reviewers and was approved and promoted (closed for discussion) by a third, but shortly thereafter another reviewer was concerned about a couple of "near" paraphrasing issues, which I have since dealt with almost two weeks ago. Now it seems the nomination has been forgotten about, even after reminders, so I'm hoping you (or someone) will finalize the matter for better or worse. If you have the time could you give the nomination a peek? -- Gwillhickers
17:41, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

October 2013 AFC Backlog elimination drive

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from October 1st, 2013 – October 31st, 2013.

Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 2300 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

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WikiCup 2013 September newsletter

In 30 days, we will know the identity of our 2013 WikiCup champion. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) currently leads; if that lead is held, she will become the first person to have won the WikiCup twice. Canada Sasata (submissions), Australia Hawkeye7 (submissions)—who has never participated in the competition before—and New South Wales Casliber (submissions) follow. The majority of points in this round have come from a mix of good articles and bonus points. This final round is seeing contributions to a number of highly important topics; recent submissions include Phoenix (constellation) (FA by Casliber), Ernest Lawrence (GA by Hawkeye7), Pinniped, and red fox (both GAs by Sasata).

The did you know (DYK)

eligibility criteria have recently changed, meaning that newly passed good articles are accepted as "new" for did you know purposes. However, in the interests of not changing the WikiCup rules mid-competition, please note that only articles eligible for DYK under the old system (that is, newly created articles or 5x expansions) will be eligible for points in this year's WikiCup. We do, however, have time to discuss how this new system will work for next year's competition; a discussion will be opened in due course. On that note, thoughts are welcome on changes you'd like to see for next year. What worked? What didn't work? What would you like to see more of? What would you like to see less of? All Wikipedians, new or old, are also warmly invited to sign up for the 2014 WikiCup
.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail
) 22:36, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Beast54643

I noticed that you blocked the user for 72 hours, but I would think it should be indefinite, given that I also blocked him on Wikidata for similar offenses, implying that this user is only going to continue vandalizing.--Jasper Deng (talk) 05:53, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I opted for only a 72 hour block because the user had received an insufficient number of warnings for his edits. Blocks are meant to be preventative, and in my estimation, 72 hours is more than enough to discourage and prevent negative behavior while also allowing the opportunity of positive contribution should the user have made an honest series of mistakes. Should the user not wish to contribute positively, it is a simple matter to revert and indef block with no long term damage. Best, Mifter (talk) 05:59, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
My rationale for an indef in this case is that additional warnings would not make a difference, given that the user went as far as going to Wikidata to do the same thing. I don't think this user is here to contribute in good faith, or he/she would've taken note of the notices and stopped the vandalism.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:07, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
While that may be true, we have little to lose should he vandalize again. It is as simple as a revert and indef block, but I believe that assuming good faith is more important in this case than the relatively minor risks. Best, Mifter (talk) 06:13, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 October newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year! Our champion, for the second year running, is Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions). Our final nine were as follows:

  1. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions)
  2. Australia Hawkeye7 (submissions)
  3. Canada Sasata (submissions)
  4. Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions)
  5. New South Wales Casliber (submissions)
  6. Scotland Adam Cuerden (submissions)
  7. London Miyagawa (submissions)
  8. Poland Piotrus (submissions)
  9. Wyoming Ealdgyth (submissions)

All those who reached the final win prizes, and prizes will also be going to the following participants:

Prizes will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition. While it has been an excellent year, errors have opened up the judges' eyes to the need for a third judge, and it is with pleasure that we announce that experienced WikiCup participant Miyagawa will be acting as a judge from now on. We hope you will all join us in welcoming him to the team.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. Brainstorming and discussion remains open for how next year's competition will work, and straw polls will be opened by the judges soon. Those interested in friendly competition may also like to keep an eye on the stub contest, being organised by Casliber. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) 00:12, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup award

In recognition of your participation in the 2013 Wikipedia:WikiCup. J Milburn (talk · contribs) and The ed17 (talk · contribs) 15:29, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3

Hey Mifter! I am Petrb, one of core developers of Huggle, the antivandalism tool, which you are beta testing (according to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Members#Beta_testers). I am happy to announce that Huggle 3 is ready for some testing. You can read more about it at WP:Huggle/Huggle3_Beta. Please keep in mind that this is a development version and it is not ready for regular use. That means you must:

  • Watch your contribs - when anything happens you didn't want, fix it and report a bug
  • Frequently checkout source code and build latest version, we change it a lot

If you find any problem with a feature that is supposed to work perfectly, please let us know. Some features are not ready yet, it is listed in known problems on Huggle3 beta page, you don't need to report these - we know it! So, that's it. Have fun testing and please let us know about any problems, either using bugzilla @ http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ or #huggle connect. Please respond to my talk page, I am not going to watch your talk page. Thank you Petrb (talk) 10:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3 beta is out - and we need more feedback!

Hey Mifter, how are you? I am Petrb, one of huggle developers, and you are currently subscribed as a beta tester of huggle on meta (meta:Huggle/Members. You may not have noticed, but this week I released first beta precompiled installers for ubuntu and microsoft windows! Wikipedia:Huggle/Huggle3_Beta has all the links you need. So if you can, please download it, test it and report all bugs that is really what we need now. Don't forgot that as it's just a beta it's unstable and there are some known issues. Be carefull! Thank you for helping us with huggle Petrb (talk) 16:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Mifter:

WikiProject AFC is holding a two month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from December 1st, 2013 – January 31st, 2014.

Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 2300 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

A new version of our
AfC helper script has been released! It includes many bug fixes, new improvements and features, code enhancements, and more. If you want to see a full list of changes, visit the changelog. Please report bugs and feature requests there, too! Thanks. EdwardsBot (talk) 09:10, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk

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RFA

Hi. I've been considering putting myself forward for adminship, and was wondering if you would review me to see if I'm ready. I've put myself forward a few times now, under my old username Wikiwoohoo. The last of these was in March 2009. I'd only really consider the third and fourth ones to be the most serious attempts. The links to these attempts are as follows:

Thanks in advance for your help. Cloudbound (talk) 19:03, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 January newsletter

The 2014 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with, at time of writing, 138 participants. The is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2010. If you are yet to join the competition, don't worry- the judges have agreed to keep the signups open for a few more days. By a wide margin, our current leader is newcomer Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions), whose set of 14 featured pictures, the first FPs of the competition, was worth 490 points. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

Featured articles, featured lists, featured topics and featured portals are yet to play a part in the competition. The judges have removed a number of submissions which were deemed ineligible. Typically, we aim to see work on a project, followed by a nomination, followed by promotion, this year. We apologise for any disappointment caused by our strict enforcement this year; we're aiming to keep the competition as fair as possible.

Wikipedians interested in friendly competition may be interested to take part in The Core Contest; unlike the WikiCup, The Core Contest is not about audited content, but, like the WikiCup, it is about article improvement; specifically, The Core Contest is about contribution to some of Wikipedia's most important article. Of course, any work done for The Core Contest, if it leads to a DYK, GA or FA, can earn WikiCup points.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on

Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail), The ed17 (talkemail) and Miyagawa (talkemail
) 19:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Recent Warning

Hi Mifter, I recently got a warning for editing a page that listed the names of hands in Texas Hold'EM because it wasn't constructive.

There was an alignment problem on the list, where the description ran into the column of the name. I deleted the only difference I saw on that line compared to the others, previewed it, and the problem was fixed. I changed no content, and was only trying to help the readability of the page. I apologize for any inconvenience that might have occurred due to the edit, but I didn't see any other than fixing the alignment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.178.113 (talk) 08:53, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello and
wikimarkup from the page (likely not even your fault). I have gone through to try and refix the alignment on the page, and apologize for any confusion that my message has caused. We really appreciate your edit and contributions, and hope you decide to continue contributing. If you have any questions or need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. All the Best, Mifter (talk) 16:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.178.113 (talk

) 03:13, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

RedChocobo

I am trying to call out to RedChocobo. He apparently left Wikipedia after making that audio file. I think he probably looks at that page from time to time, and I want to encourage him to join Wikipedia so he can make more audio files. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.209.64.233 (talk) 22:22, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello and
Welcome to Wikipedia! The reason that I removed the comment is because the actual article is not the space for such a request, but rather his talk page. Should you need any other help, I would be happy to assist. Best, Mifter (talk) 15:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Poor call

[1]. Sorry. You've left poorly sourced contentious information in a BLP and only one editor was calling others vandals and accusing others of nationalism. --NeilN talk to me

07:38, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the content more closely now. The civility warning was general and to everyone, in heated situations, it can never hurt to tacitly remind people to step back and take a breath if they feel things starting to get heated (it was not meant to imply or indemnify anyone, just caution against inciting conflict). Best, Mifter (talk) 07:40, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. I saw your addendum after I posted this. No quibbles about what you said now. --NeilN talk to me 07:43, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Also, on a slightly less serious and more humorous note (while I look at the article more closely) see meta:The Wrong Version. Mifter (talk) 07:42, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes (sigh), I know. I wouldn't have said anything if it wasn't a BLP. --NeilN talk to me 07:44, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Not a problem, after looking at it, it is clearly something that could be (and in this case is) contentious so I've removed it for the time being while everyone (hopefully) talks everything over on the talk page and figures out the best way to deal with the issue. Best, Mifter (talk) 07:48, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. --NeilN talk to me 07:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Whuh?

I blocked him for a combination of edit-warring and personal attacks - you cannot re-warn him for something he's already blocked for...I recommend you undo that DP 17:12, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

I added the warning primarily because after reading your block message, I was concerned the user wasn't specifically being told that their civility was also an issue (above and beyond their Edit Warring) and wanted to add that so should any he have any future issues, an uninvolved admin would easily be able to see the prior civility issues (including the mention to some of the other times he has been warned for civility) as the Block Log and talk page both mention Edit Warring as the primary justification for the block. I am not opposed to removing it, but wanted to ensure that the clear distinction between edit warring and incivility as separate but both serious issues. Best,
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Comment from Leaky Caldron

I know all about edit warring and I'm not. I've been here for 8 years and I don't appreciate standard messages "welcoming me" to a place that I've worked for longer than you. I have reverted 2 wholly inappropriate sections of material (one on 2 occasions) with appropriate message left for the editor and in the edit summary. The page has been subject to heavy POV sentiment from several unregistered editors for a considerable time, as a cursory examination of the history will show. Now, please go and disrupt someone else's afternoon with your ill-judged advice. Leaky Caldron 17:26, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

and that level of protection you have set is completely erroneous. Leaky Caldron 17:40, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello, after looking at the article again, it does appear that you are engaging in an edit war with this Anon. His is adding a sourced contribution to the article from a reputable news outlet that is not outwardly labeled as an opinion piece and you are reverting him with only an edit summary for justification. Being that both of you are continuing to undo each others edits without starting a discussion on the Articles Talk page or either of your talk pages, that makes it an edit war. In this case, deciding if certain information is relevant for inclusion is worthy of discussion and does not justify continuing to revert; as multiple Wikipedia policies must be interpreted in order to reach a consensus, edit summaries are hardly enough space to have the necessary discussion. Secondly, I chose that warning template, because the other standard one available to me is much more stringent and stern and was not the message I wanted to convey. I was simply trying to nudge both you to discuss the changes with a friendly reminder as things were starting to get heated without jumping to a full warning. I have now protected the article for two days and strongly encourage both you and the Anon to discuss this addition on the articles talk page so when the protection expires this edit war does not continue. Finally, while I understand you are upset, I don't appreciate having insults thrown my way. I am ALWAYS open to civilly discussing any and all decisions I make both as an editor and as an Administrator. However, while I am open to a civil discussion, I will not tolerate any conduct that is uncivil or personally attacks myself or any other editors. Best, Mifter (talk) 17:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Also, for an edit war where any involved user is autoconfirmed (as you are), full protection is the correct course of action as otherwise it would just block the Anon from contributing, which would not resolve the edit war, but rather only silence one side of it. Best, Mifter (talk) 17:54, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
In my opinion it is clear beyond peradventure that this is the latest in a string of IPs adding the same preposterous content and unfair use image as part of an insidious group intent on influencing the neutrality of the article. I intend to discuss the content with no one, I will simply remove the article from my watchlist and let the vandals flourish. Your assertion of edit warring is groundless. Leaky Caldron 18:03, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
In that case, I am extremely sorry to hear that you feel that way. A cornerstone of Wikipedia is to wherever possible assume the good faith of our contributors, both experienced and established editors (such as you) as well as Anonymous editors and to discuss contentious changes to reach a consensus. In this case, it appears to me that the Anon was adding a perfectly sourced statement (that was not overly biased or preposterous, nor added an unauthorized image) and both of you had differing views on if it should be included. This is the perfect opportunity to engage in a discussion and reach a conclusion that helps enrich the article, and maybe encourage the Anon to become an editor and create an account. If you make a good faith effort to justify why you believe the content should not be included and the Anon refuses to discuss the content, then it is a simple matter to remove the content and warn or block the editor for edit warring against consensus and not justifying their changes. However, walking away helps no one because despite a string of bad faith Anons, there is always the chance that this user wishes to contribute constructively, and despite the bad, the goal of everyone here is to help build an encyclopedia. All the Best, Mifter (talk) 18:17, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Furthermore, respectfully, claiming that calling this an edit war is groundless is inaccurate. The first sentence of
WP:EW states "An edit war occurs when editors who disagree about the content of a page repeatedly override each other's contributions, rather than trying to resolve the disagreement by discussion." Where does this definition not fit in this situation? You both were reverting each other, citing policies in your edit summaries instead of discussing, and you now refuse to discuss the content. I really do not like having to level accusations of edit warring because it often leads to strong feelings on both sides (precisely what I was trying to avoid by using the less accusatory warning), but I am at a loss for seeing how this does not fit the bill of being an edit war. Best, Mifter (talk
) 18:23, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

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