Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Tirgil34
Original name(s) | User:Tirgil34 |
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Wikilifespan | At least 2011 – |
ISP | Unitymedia (probable home ISP) Deutsche Telekom Telefónica Germany Vodafone Turkey? Vodafone Germany? |
Physical location | Germany (Mainly North Rhine-Westphalia, but including other German locations: Berlin, Bielefeld, Cologne, Detmold, Duisburg, Haina, Mettmann, Munich, Nuremberg) Turkey (Istanbul)? also using several Proxy-IPs |
Instructions | Add targeted articles to watchlist; Semiprotect any page he touches to prevent follow-up disruption; Subsequently update this LTA. |
Status | Active |
Please report all ongoing incidents of abuse to
Basic information
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Comprehensive edits analysis
Tirgil34 is a user who has been active on Wikipedia since at least December 2011. He was indefinitely blocked on 5 September 2012, but has continued his disruptive editing on Wikipedia through more than a hundred socks ever since.
Targeted areas, pages, themes
Persistent spreading of
- Afanasevo culture
- Aimaq people
- Alania
- Alans
- Altai people
- Altaic languages
- Ancient North Eurasian
- Andronovo culture
- Armenian hypothesis
- Armenian language
- Armeno-Phrygian
- Ashina (clan)
- Asii
- Auburn hair
- Avar people (Caucasus)
- Æsir
- Akatziri
- Avesta
- Balkars
- Bashkirs
- Basmyl
- Basque grammar
- Basque language
- Bey
- Bleda
- BMAC
- Basque grammar
- Basque language
- Begazy-Dandybai culture
- Bernard Sergent
- Bogatyr
- Botai culture
- Boza
- Bulgars
- Burusho people
- Charaton
- Centum and satem languages
- Clan Nara
- Cumania
- Cumans
- Crimea
- Dangun
- Dingling
- Duduk
- Ellac
- Ergenekon
- Etruscan civilization
- Gathas
- Genetic history of the Turkish people
- Genetic history of indigenous peoples of the Americas
- Glazkov culture
- Gog and Magog
- Göktürks
- Graeco-Armenian
- Grumbates
- Gutian people
- Haplogroup C-V20
- Haplogroup K-M9
- Haplogroup P (Y-DNA)
- Haplogroup P-M45
- Haplogroup Q-M242
- Haplogroup R (Y-DNA)
- Haplogroup R1
- Haplogroup R1a
- Haplogroup R1b
- Haplogroup R-M167
- Haplogroup U (mtDNA)
- Haplogroup X (mtDNA)
- Hazara people
- Hephthalites
- History of Kyrgyzstan
- History of Siberia
- History of the Hungarian language
- Horse burial
- Horse worship
- Hotan
- Hungarian Turanism
- Hungarians
- Hunnic language
- Huns
- Huvishka
- Indigenous peoples of the Americas
- Iranian peoples
- Issyk inscription
- Issyk Kurgan
- Jasz language
- Jasz people
- Jakten på Odin
- Jōmon period
- Kangju
- Kanishka
- Kankalis
- Karachays
- Karachay-Balkar language
- Karasuk culture
- Karasuk languages
- Kashgar
- Karluks
- Kazakhs
- Kennewick Man
- Kingdom of Khotan
- Khalaj people
- Khas people
- Khatun
- Kipchaks
- Kujula Kadphises
- Kurdification
- Kurds
- Kurdalægon
- Kurgan hypothesis
- Kurgan
- Kushan Empire
- Kutrigurs
- Kyrgyz people
- Old Turkic alphabet
- Madjars
- Mahmudali Chehregani
- Mal'ta–Buret' culture
- Mihirakula
- Mirfatyh Zakiev
- Mlechha
- Mushki
- Nart saga
- Neolithic creolisation hypothesis
- Nostratic languages
- Oghuz Khagan
- Paleolithic Continuity Theory
- Paleo-Balkan languages
- Pamir Mountains
- Pamirid race
- Pannonian Avars
- Pan-Turkism
- Pazyryk burials
- Pazyryk culture
- Pazyryk rug
- Pechenegs
- Poltavka culture
- Potapovka culture
- Proto-Armenian language
- Proto-Indo-European homeland
- Proto-Germanic language
- Proto-Turkic language
- Qashqai language
- Qashqai people
- Rumi
- Sabir people
- Saka
- Saka language
- Saltovo-Mayaki
- Sarmatians
- Scythians
- Scythian languages
- Scythian religion
- Selkup people
- Seima-Turbino phenomenon
- Shulgan
- Siraces
- Sintashta
- Sintashta culture
- Slab Grave culture
- Sogdia
- Srubnaya culture
- Suars
- Subartu
- Sumerian language
- Tabiti
- Tajiks
- Tagar culture
- Tamga
- -tania
- Tarkhan
- Tashtyk culture
- Tauri
- Tarim mummies
- Tengri
- Tengrism
- Tiele people
- Tocharians
- Tocharian languages
- Tork Angegh
- Trepanning
- Tur (mythology)
- Turan
- Turanism
- Turcilingi
- Turanid race
- Turkic languages
- Turkic peoples
- Turkic Khaganate
- Turkic tribal confederations
- Turkology
- Turpan
- Tuvans
- Türgesh
- Udmurt language
- Udmurt people
- Ural–Altaic languages
- Urheimat
- Utigurs
- Uyghur people
- Uzbeks
- Wakan Tanka
- Western Steppe Herders
- White Croats
- Who We Are and How We Got Here
- Wusun
- Xiongnu
- Xionites
- Yabghu
- Yaghnobi people
- Yamna culture
- Yakut language
- Yakuts
- Yazidis
- Yenisei Kirghiz
- Yuri Tambovtsev
- Y-DNA haplogroups in Central and North Asian populations
Arguments promoted by Tirgil34 on these articles and others include:
- Claiming that various Iranian peoples, especially Scythians/Saka were instead of Turkic origin.[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]
- Claiming that various Afanasevo culture, the Andronovo culture and the Karasuk culture, were of Turkic origin.[9] [10] [11] [12]
- Promoting the theory that the Basque language and Turkic languages are related.[13] [14]
- Suggesting that the Botai culture was of Turkic origin.[15] [16]
- Rejecting the Indo-Iranian identity of the Sintashta culture.[17] [18]
- Rejecting the
- Presenting ancient Turkic peoples as "Turanid",
- Presenting various cultures of Central Asia as having been characterized by Altaic/Turkic "idioms".[26] [27]
- Suggesting that the Issyk inscription was made in a Turkic language.[28] [29]
- Denying the possible Iranian origins of the Ashina Türks.[30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36]
- Denying the historical presence of Iranian nomads in Uzbekistan.[37] [38] [39] [40] [41]
- Claiming that the Uysyn.[42]
- Claiming a link between the Suars.[47]
- Insinuating a link between the Tungri,[48] the Turcilingi [49], Turukkaeans and Tauri [50] with Turkic peoples.
- Promoting the
- Promoting the
- Promoting the Kangju of antiquity as a Turkic people,[60] and promoting a link between them and the modern Kangly.[61]
- Adding
- Claiming the Dingling as a Turkic people.[65]
- Presenting the Proto-Turkic language as having originated in Central Asia.[66]
- Suggesting ancient contacts between Celtic-Germanic and Altaic languages.[67]
- Dating the Proto-Turkic language way back to 4000 BC.[68] [69]
- Presenting the Huns, the Xiongnu and the Hunnic language as Turkic.[70] [71] [72] [73] [74] [75] [76] [77] [78] [79] [80] [81]
- Presenting the
- Presenting Turkic expansion.[85]
- Presenting the Altaic languages and Nostratic languages hypotheses as valid,[86] [87] [88] regurarly using the Etymological Dictionary of Altaic Languages to promote "Altaic" etymologies of various words.[89] [90] [91] [92] [93] [94] [95] [96] [97] [98]
- Removing critical discussion of Pan-Turkism.[99]
- Rejecting[100] [101] [102] [103] [104] [105] [106] [107] an strawsocking with is own IP to through removing this view.[116]
- Claiming that the
- Promoting the fringe view that the Alans are ancestral to the Balkars and Karachays and not the Ossetians [121] [122] [123]
- Suggesting a link between the
- Adding "Genetic composition" to Altai people [125] and Pazyryk culture [126] in favour of genetic continuity between the former and the latter, and insinuating that the Pazyryk people were Turkic.[127]
- Presenting various historical race concepts as valid, detailing the geographic distribution of various "races", especially the Turanid race.[128] [129] [130] [131]
- Promoting the
- Promoting the
- Suggesting that the Avesta is of "Altaic" origin.[141]
- Adding dubious genetic maps created by himself.[142] [143][144]
- Denying the association of Haplogroup R1a with Indo-European migrations,[145] [146] instead highlighting its supposed Turkish origins and prevalence among Turkic peoples.[147] [148] [149] [150]
- Highlighting prevalence of Haplogroup R1b (Y-DNA) among various Turkic peoples,[151] [152] [153] and presenting Haplogroup R1b (Y-DNA) as a "Turkic" haplogroup originating in Central Asia.[154] [155]
- Insinuating genetic links between Turkic peoples and Native Americans.[156] [157] [158] [159] [160] [161]
- Highlighting prevalence of Haplogroup P-M45 among various Turkic peoples, and presenting it as a "Turkic" haplogroup originating in Central Asia.[162]
- Inserting
- Various often discrediting edits to articles related to Jews/Judaism/Zionism/Israel, as examplified in the editing history of Tirgil34 socks Daru Dakitu, Tehiptilla Vanand and Lamedumal
- Rejecting connections between "steppe ancestry" and Western Steppe Herders.[164]
- Promoting the idea that the people of the Mal'ta–Buret' culture were "Mongoloid".[165][166]
- Presenting scientific ideology.[167]
- Promoting the
- Promoting the works of Pseudo-Turkologists such as Mirfatyh Zakiev.[175]
- Rejecting theories supposing that early Turkic peoples were East Asians originating somewhere in Mongolia and northern China.[176][177][178]
- Rejecting theories supposing that certain Turkic peoples of Central Asia are Turkified Indo-Iranians.[179]
- Promoting the Anatolian hypothesis and the Armenian hypothesis for the Proto-Indo-European homeland.[180]
Habitual behavior/Modus operandi
- Persistent edit-warring through dynamic IPs, usually his own German and Turkish IPs and open proxies
- Sock tricks: e.g. making his desired change through one IP, then reverting it back or adding vandalism through another strawman IP, hoping that an established user will revert back to his first edit
- Tinkering with the block and sockpuppet tags on the user and talk pages of his own abandoned socks
- Creating and tinkering with galleries on articles related to peoples and places in Central Asia.[181] [182] [183] [184] [185] [186] [187] [188] [189] [190] [191]
- Accusing disagreeing editors of being "crazy" and "anti-Turkic".[192] [193]
- Edit warring with his own socks.[194] [195] [196]
- Having conversations between his own socks.[197] [198] [199] [200] [201] [202] [203]
- Using his own socks to accuse disagreeing users of being socks of his own sockmaster (Tirgil34).[204]
- Inserting quotes to the userpages of his socks.[205] [206] [207] [208] [209]
- Probably creating socks with edits similar to disagreeing users, which he then accuses of belonging to the disagreeing user.[210]
- Denying his own sockpuppetry.[211] [212] [213] [214] [215] [216] [217]
- Ascribing Jewish leftist (?) sock Daru Dakitu,[231] female socks Lamedumal [232] and Tirgil34,[233] male (Jörg Lerens) sock Radosfrester,[234] and the "transsexual" possible sock [235]
- Creating socks with similar usernames. Compare Alpargon with Alpargu, Xantana with Xantana2, and Talgatov with Talgatovthe2nd
- Creating socks for separate purposes i. e. Julbaxsan to promote the Turkicness of the Kangju[236] and Poikdiyma to promote the Turkicness of the Wusun.[237]
- Reverting[238] his own restoration[239] of edits by the sockmaster[240] to hide evidence of his sockpuppetry.
- edits.
- Using proxies from all over the world, including Turkey,[245] [246] Netherlands,[247] Canada,[248] New Zealand,[249] and Iran.[250]
- Utilizing
- Reactivating sleeper accounts once active accounts have been blocked. See Henephon7 and SibirHusky.
- Marking his etymological edits as "adding etymology".[253] [254] [255] [256] [257] [258] [259] [260] [261] [262] [263] [264] [265]
- Marking his reverts as "undoing source falsification."[266] [267] [268] [269] [270] [271] [272] [273] [274] [275] [276] [277] [278] [279]
- Falsely marking his edits as removing his own content.[280] [281] [282]
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Global account information
Notes on off-wiki behavior
It is recommended to index material added by suspected socks of Tirgil34 through
The Apricity
Tirgil34 is the same person as Kipchak Håkan/Kipchak Hakan (now calling himself Proto-Shaman) at the The Apricity, a "racialist" forum. Compare this post by Kipchak Håkan[283] where he cites material uploaded by Tirgil34 sock Agaceri at Huvishka and Kanishka just hours earlier.[284] [285] Also compare this post by TheApricity user SkyEarth about "evil Turco-Mongol women raped Iranic Scythian men and created modern Turkic peoples"[286] with the post by confirmed Tirgil34 sock Bolanile at Talk:Scythian languages.[287] It is likely that Tirgil34/Kipchak Håkan has many "sockpuppets" on the TheApricity and other places. He is probably coordinating his editing activity on Wikipedia with friends from those forums.
Antisemitism and Armenian Genocide denial
At The Apricity, Kipchak Håkan has been promoting more than just Turanist fringe theories. Equipped with a profile picture of
Youtube
The
Tengri • Spirit of the Steppe has been making similar attacks[306][307][308] against Wikipedia editors as socks of Tirgil34 has done at Wikipedia.[309][310]
Fandom
Tirgil34 created and edits a wiki[311] on Fandom/Wikia.
TurkicWorld
Tirgil34/KipchakHåkan seems to be using this pseudoscientific blog-turkicworld.org, run by Norm Kisamov, who owns the Wikipedia account Barefact,[312] as a source of information.[313] [314]
Other
Tirgil34 is also probably the same as Temple of Time at Historum.
The user CagatayKhan at TWCenter.net links to both Wikipedia content added by Tirgil34, forum posts by Kipchak Håkan at TheApricity and Youtube videos by ✣ Tengri • Spirit of the Steppe ✣, and is thus probably also the same person.[315] [316] [317]
Other likely affiliates include the
Cases
Details
His personal websites/blogs
- turkicworld.org (main domain)
- s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/
- hunmagyar.org
His accounts on theapricity.com
Username | Posts | Threads | Note |
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Kipchak Håkan (since changed to Proto-Shaman) | [318] | [319] | Main account |
AndarKhan | [320] | [321] | |
Buusra | [322] | [323] | Could be related to Tirgil34 because they spams same stuff. For example see their edits on WP: Special:Contributions/185.113.8.2 Rants on Turkish WP [324], [325] |
Varhun | [326] | [327] |
Confirmed and suspected accounts
- Sockpuppet category (if any): Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Tirgil34
- Suspected sockpuppet category (if any): Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Tirgil34
Spam blacklist
As the problem apparently persists, I have now followed a request asking to add the relevant domains to