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Your GA nomination of Herennius Etruscus
The article Herennius Etruscus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Herennius Etruscus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of QatarStarsLeague -- QatarStarsLeague (talk) 04:41, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Your GA reviews
Iazyges, you have four GA reviews underway that are 100 days old as of today. I see that you're about to be away for a week; if you could give these a quick look-in before you go to get these moving again (or fail them if no progress has been made) it would be greatly appreciated. The reviews are:
- Talk:Audi S and RS models/GA1
- Talk:MIDI/GA1 (I made some comments there over a month ago)
- Talk:King's University College (University of Western Ontario)/GA2
- Talk:Volkswagen Polo R WRC/GA1
Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:38, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: Apologies, I didn't catch the message before my trip, but will address it as soon as possible.Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 04:20, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
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Portals WikiProject update #010, 30 June 2018
We've grown to 94 participants.
A warm welcome to dcljr and Kpgjhpjm.
Rating system for portals
We are in the process of developing a rating system specifically for portals, as the quality assessment scheme for articles does not apply to portals. It is coming along nicely. Your input would be very helpful. See the discussion at
Better than a barnstar
One of our participants got involved with this WikiProject through interest in how the new generation of portals would be handled in WP's MOS (Manual of Style). It didn't take long before he got sucked in deeper. This has given him an opportunity to look around, and so, he has made an assessment of this WikiProject's operations:
I'm quite frankly really impressed and inspired by what's happening here. If you'd asked me a year ago if I thought portals should just be scrapped as a failed, dragged-out experiment, I would have said "yes". This planning and the progress toward making it all practical is exemplary of the wiki spirit, in particular of a happy service-to-readers puppy properly wagging its technological and editorial tail instead of the other way around, and without "drama". It's also one of the few examples I've seen in a long time of a new wikiproject actually doing something useful and fomenting constructive activity (instead of acting as a barrier to participation, and a canvassing/ownership farm for PoV pushers). Kudos all around. — SMcCandlish
Congratulations, everyone. Keep up the great work.
Slideshow development
We've run into a glitch with slideshows: they don't work on mobile devices.
Initially, we will need to explore options that allow portals to have slideshows without adversely affecting mobile viewers. See
Eventually, we may need another way to do slideshows. If we do go this route, and I don't see why we wouldn't, then (user configurable) automatic slideshows also become a possibility.
TemplateStyles RfC passed
Once implemented, this will allow editors to create and edit cascading style sheets for use with templates. This will expand what we can do with portals. For more detail, see mw:Extension:TemplateStyles and Wikipedia:TemplateStyles.
Automation effort
We've run into an obstacle using Lua-based selective transclusion: Lua is incapable (on Wikipedia) of reading in article names from categories. Because of this, we'll need to seek other approaches for fully automating the Selected article section. We are exploring sources other than categories, and other technologies besides Lua.
Speaking of using other sources, the template {{Transclude list item excerpt}} collects list items from a specified page, or from a section of that page, and transcludes the lead from a randomly selected link from that list. Courtesy of Certes. So, if you use this in a portal, and if the template specifies a page or section serviced by JL-Bot, you've now got yourself an automatically updated section in the portal. JL-Bot provides links to featured content and good articles, by subject.
What is "fully automated"? When you create a portal using a creation template, and the portal works thereafter without editor intervention, the portal is fully automated. That is, the portal is supported by features that fetch new content. If you have to add new article names every so often for it to display new content, then it is only semi-automated.
Currently, the Selected article section is semi-automated, because it requires that an editor supplies the names of the various articles for which excerpts are (automatically) displayed. For examples, look at the wikisource code of
So far, 3 sections are fully automatable: the introduction section, the categories section, and the Associated Wikimedia section.
Where is all this heading?
Henry.
Or some other name.
Eventually, the portal department will be a software program. And we won't have to do anything (unless we want to). Not even tell it what portals to create (unless we want to). It will just do it all (plus whatever else we want it to do). And we will of course give it good manners, and a name.
But, that is a few years off.
Until then, building portals is still (partially) up to us. — The Transhumanist 13:31, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you ...
... for improving article quality in June! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
WikiCup 2018 July newsletter
The third round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:
- Courcelles, a first time contestant, with 1756 points, a tally built largely on 27 GAs related to the Olympics
- Cas Liber, our winner in 2016, with two featured articles and three GAs on natural history and astronomy topics
- SounderBruce, a finalist last year, with a variety of submissions related to transport in the state of Washington
Contestants managed 7 featured articles, 4 featured lists, 120 good articles, 1 good topic, 124 DYK entries, 15 ITN entries, and 132 good article reviews. Over the course of the competition, contestants have completed 458 GA reviews, in comparison to 244 good articles submitted for review and promoted. As we enter the fourth round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Please also remember that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them. When doing GARs, please make sure that you check that all the GA criteria are fully met. Please also remember that all submissions must meet core Wikipedia policies, regardless of the review process; several submissions, particularly in abstruse or technical areas, have needed additional work to make them completely verifiable.
If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on
King's University College (University of Western Ontario) Review
I have renominated the article King's University College (University of Western Ontario). If possible could you continue to lend your time to a review? Thanks, Kjp993 (talk) 18:04, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).
- Pbsouthwood • TheSandDoctor
- Gogo Dodo
- Andrevan • Doug • EVula • KaisaL • Tony Fox • WilyD
- An MfD if consensus determines that it is unlikely to ever meet the requirements for mainspace and it otherwise meets one of the reasons for deletionoutlined in the deletion policy.
- A WP:G13speedy deletion nomination.
- An
- Starting on July 9, the WMF Security team, Trust & Safety, and the broader technical community will be seeking input on an upcoming change that will restrict editing of site-wide JavaScript and CSS to a new technical administrators user group. Bureaucrats and stewards will be able to grant this right per a community-defined process. The intention is to reduce the number of accounts who can edit frontend code to those who actually need to, which in turn lessens the risk of malicious code being added that compromises the security and privacy of everyone who accesses Wikipedia. For more information, please review the FAQ.
- Syntax highlighting has been graduated from a Beta feature on the English Wikipedia. To enable this feature, click the highlighter icon () in your editing toolbar (or under the hamburger menu in the 2017 wikitext editor). This feature can help prevent you from making mistakes when editing complex templates.
- IP-based cookie blocks should be deployed to English Wikipedia in July (previously scheduled for June). This will cause the block of a logged-out user to be reloaded if they change IPs. This means in most cases, you may no longer need to do /64 range blocks on residential IPv6 addresses in order to effectively block the end user. It will also help combat abuse from IP hoppers in general. For the time being, it only affects users of the desktop interface.
- Currently around 20% of admins have enabled doing so. Regardless if you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secureand unique to Wikimedia.
- Currently around 20% of admins have enabled
The Bugle: Issue CXLVII, July 2018
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) 12:12, 10 July 2018 (UTC)Portals WikiProject update #011, 10 July 2018
We now have 97 participants.
Be sure to welcome our newest members,
Work is proceeding apace. We have 2 major thrusts right now: converting the intro sections of portals, and building the components of the one-page automated model...
- Converting the intro sections
We need everybody, except those building software components, to work on converting intros. If you have AWB, definitely use that. If not, then work on them manually. Even one a day, or as often as you can muster, will help a lot. There are only about 1,000 of them left to go, so if everyone chips in, it will go pretty quickly. Remember, there are 97 of us!
The intros for most of the portals starting with A through F have already been converted to use the {{Transclude lead excerpt}} template.
The standard wikicode for the automated intro that we want to put into place looks like this:
{{/box-header|Introduction|noedit=yes|}}
{{Transclude lead excerpt | {{PAGENAME}} | paragraphs=1-2 | files=1}}
{{Box-footer|[[{{PAGENAME}}|Read more...]]}}
That works for most portals, but not all. For some portals it requires some tweaking, and for others, we may have to use a different or more customized approach. Remember to visually inspect each portal you work on and make sure that it works before moving on to the next one.
Be sure to skip user-maintained portals. They are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Portals#Specific_portal_maintainers.
- AWB tips
I've started an AWB tips page, for those of you feeling a bit overwhelmed by that power user tool. Feel free to add to it and/or improve it.
- Portal automation
We have some very talented Lua programmers, who are pushing the limits of what we can do in gathering data from Wikipedia's various namespaces and presenting it in portals. Due to their efforts, Lua is powering the selective transclusion core of our emerging automated portal design, in the form of selected article sections that rotate content, and slideshows.
To go beyond Lua's limits, to take full advantage of Mediawiki's API, we are in the midst of adding another programming language to the resources we shall be making use of: JavaScript. The ways that JavaScript can help us edit portals to boost the power of our Lua solutions, are being explored, which will likely make the two languages synergistic if not symbiotic. Research is under way on how we can use JavaScript to make some of the portal semi-automated features fully automatically self-updating, in ways that Lua cannot. Like gathering random members from a category and inserting them into a portal's templates as parameters. Once the parameters are in place, Lua does the rest.
If you would like to get involved with design efforts, or just keep up on them, see
- When should we start building new portals?
Well, not at the present time, because building portals is quite time consuming. The good news is that we are working on a design that will be fully automated, or as close to that as we can get. And the new design is being implemented in the portal department's
What I'm getting at here, is that it would be better to wait to build lots of new portals until after the new design is completed. Because with it, instead of taking hours to create a new portal, it will likely take minutes.
That does not mean we should be idle in the meantime. The main reason most of us are here is because it became apparent that portals were largely unmaintained and had grown out-of-date. This had become so apparent that a proposal was made to delete all the portals and the portal namespace to boot. That makes our main objective in the short term to improve all the existing portals so that the community will want to keep them—forever.
Building lots of new portals comes later. Let's fix up the ones we have first. ;)
And on that note, I bid you adieu. Until next newsletter, see ya 'round the WikiProject. — The Transhumanist 12:30, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
The article Glycerius you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Glycerius for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Llywrch -- Llywrch (talk) 17:41, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Portals WikiProject update #012, 15 July 2018
We have 97 participants.
Getting faster
Automation makes things go faster, even portal creation. One of the components Certes made was {{Transclude list item excerpt}}. I became curious about its possible applications.
So I worked out a portal design using it, the initial prototypes being Portal:Kyoto (without a "Selected pictures" section), and Portal:Dubai (with a "Selected pictures" section). Then I used Portal:Dubai as the basis for further portals of this type...
- I was able to revamp Portal:Munich from start to finish in less than 22 minutes.
- Portal:Dresden took about 19 minutes.
- Portal:Athens took less than 17 minutes.
- Did Portal:Florence in about 13 minutes.
- Portal:Stockholm also in about 13.
- Portal:Palermo approx. 12 minutes.
Why?
To see, and to show, what may become feasible via automation.
It now looks highly feasible that we could get portal construction time down to a few minutes, or maybe even down to a few seconds.
The singularity is just around the corner. :)
Slideshows
When using the {{Random slideshow}} template to display pictures, be sure to use the plural tense in the section title: "Selected pictures". That's because slideshows don't show up on many mobile devices. Instead the whole set of pictures is shown, hence the section title "Selected pictures", as it fits both situations.
In case you are curious, here is a list of the portals so far that have a slideshow:
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Progress on intro conversions
The intros for most of the portals up through the letter "O" have been converted, using this wikicode:
{{/box-header|Introduction|noedit=yes|}}
{{Transclude lead excerpt | {{PAGENAME}} | paragraphs=1-2 | files=1}}
{{Box-footer|[[{{PAGENAME}}|Read more...]]}}
Where the pagename didn't match the article title for the subject, the title was typed in.
Most of the portals that do not contain {{/intro}}
or {{{{FULLPGENAME}}/Intro}}
have not yet been processed.
About a thousand portals use the method of selective transclusion for the intro section. That's about two-thirds. That means we have one-third of the way to go on the intro section conversions.
Much more to come...
So much has been happening with portals that I can't keep up with it. (That's good). Which means, more in the upcoming issue. Until then, see ya 'round the project. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 08:45, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
Portals WikiProject update #013, 18 July 2018
I got overwhelmed IRL (in real life) during the production of issue #12. So, here is a catch-up issue, to help bring you (and me) up to speed on what is happening with portals...
By the way, we still have 97 participants. (Tell all your friends about this WikiProject, and have them join!)
Panoramas!
One cool feature of some of the geographical portals is a panoramic picture at the top of the intro section.
Check these out:
- Portal:Kyoto
- Portal:Miami
- Portal:Seattle
- Portal:Houston
- Portal:Tokyo
- Portal:New Orleans
- Portal:Brisbane
- Portal:Calgary
- Portal:Moscow
The Portals WikiGnome squadron is busy adding panoramas to geographical portals that don't yet have one. Feel free to join in on the fun. See task details at Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Add a panorama or skyline to a geographic portal.
Caveat: avoid super-huge pics, as they can cause portal scripts to time-out. Please try to keep picture size down below 2 megabytes. Thank you.
Auto-populated slideshows
Speaking of pictures...
We now have two slideshow templates. You may be familiar with {{Random slideshow}}, in which the editor types in (or copies/pastes) a list of pictures he or she wants it to display.
Well, now we have another template, courtesy of Evad37, which accepts one or more page names instead, and displays a random image off of the listed pages. So instead of listing dozens of files by hand, you can include a title or three to be scanned automatically. It even lets you specify particular sections.
The new slideshow template is {{Transclude files as random slideshow}}.
Here's a sample, that grabs images from a single page:
Selected motorcycle or motorcycling pictures
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Joey Dunlop on his Honda RC30 ready for the Senior TT (from Outline of motorcycles and motorcycling)
- Ernesto 'Che' Guevara (left) holding the handlebars of his 500 cc single cylinder Norton motorcycle (from
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Mallory Park, England (from Outline of motorcycles and motorcycling)FIM Motocross World Championship, taking place at
- Brough Superior SS 100 1925 (from
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inline four, the first to be called a 'superbike', and the archetypal Universal Japanese Motorcycle (from Outline of motorcycles and motorcycling)
- BMW's first motorcycle, the 1923-1925
- Lucius Copeland 1894 (from
- Logo of the
- A 1954 Triumph
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Honda Super Cub, the archetypal underbone and the world's best-selling motor vehicle (from Outline of motorcycles and motorcycling)
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BMW R1200RT Sport Touring Motorcycle (from Outline of motorcycles and motorcycling)2015
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A 1969Captain America' bike from Easy Rider (from Outline of motorcycles and motorcycling)
New Template:Box-header colour
Speaking of new templates, here's another one!
Also from Evad37, we have a new component for starting section boxes, that is color configurable, and that bypasses the need for box-header subpages altogether. It is {{Box-header colour}}.
For color support, see Web colors.
For the discussion in which this was inspired, see
(In case you didn't notice, the slideshow box above uses this new template).
BTW, don't forget to close your box with {{Box-footer}}.
Where are we on the redesign?
The answer to this question is quite involved, and would fill this page to overflowing. Therefore, this subject, including a complete update on where we are at and where we are going with portal design, is covered at
Where are we on portal conversion?
An AWB pass to convert intros on the portals has been completed. The pass couldn't convert them all (due to various formatting configurations, etc.).
All but about 170 portals now have introductions selectively transcluded on the base page. Not counting manually maintained portals, that leaves about 70 portals that either need their intros converted, or they need an intro.
Next, we'll be converting the categories sections!
What's the plan, man?
The course of action we have been taking goes something like this, with all steps being pursued simultaeneously...
1) Design a one-page automated portal model
2) Convert existing portals to that design (except those being manually maintained)
3) Remove subpages no longer needed
4) Develop further tools to empower editors working on portals
Later, when the tools are up to the task, filling in the gaps in coverage (with new portals) will also become practical.
Are we caught up yet?
Probably not.
Who knows what our programmers and editors have dreamed up while I was writing this.
See ya again soon, — The Transhumanist 11:07, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Reviews for John II Komnenos and Basil II
I appreciate the fact that you have began reviewing these two nominations of mine, but I must inform you that you have not completed them. I am stating this, because it has been over a full week, and I believe that you have forgot about them. It would be much better to get it done as soon as possible, since it seems you have the template of your review done, but not the results/conclusions of it. I will be able to respond to any questions/suggestions on the talk page of these reviews once I am available. 20DKB03 (talk) 18:54, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- @20DKB03: Indeed. Apologies, I will address them as soon as possible. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 04:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Christopher Lekapenos
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Your GA nomination of Constantine Doukas (co-emperor)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Your GA nomination of Konstantios Doukas
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Your GA nomination of Andronikos Doukas (co-emperor)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Your GA nomination of Nikephoros Diogenes
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Your GA nomination of Isaac Komnenos (son of Alexios I)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article
About Julia Maesa
Good day Iazyges, just wanted to ask, if you may, what's the missing source that needs to be fixed? And is it the only sourcing issue found? Thank you very much for taking the time to review the article. Cheers!
- @Jadd Haidar: Apologies for not elaborating, I put a citation needed template on the only section that is missing a citation, the She had a younger sister, Julia Domna who would later become Roman empress after her marriage to Septimius Severus. section. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum20:49, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hey Iazyges, I added the source (page 23 from Barbara Levick's "Julia Domna: Syrian Empress"). Are there any issues and/or unmet criteria in the article? talk) 21:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- @ 21:21, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hey Iazyges, I added the source (page 23 from Barbara Levick's "Julia Domna: Syrian Empress"). Are there any issues and/or unmet criteria in the article?
Kepelino
Hello, thanks for the reviews. We have something in common. We try to write good articles on insignificant historical figures. One of nomination Kepelino recently failed because it was ruled as too short. The funny thing is it is longer than a few of my other GA articles. I don't think there is a criteria on length for the article given there are articles like Guttorm of Norway, East 233rd Street (Bronx), and Shades of Cool just to name a few. Please let me know if you would consider another review of Kepelino, then I will renominate it. Thanks. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- @KAVEBEAR: Certainly! Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 08:39, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Belated thank you
I can only imagine how much extra work it must be for you to help fellow members of Wikipedia obtain access to the various special research collections available via the Library. Just wanted you to know how very much I appreciate your help in securing approval to use Fold3. The access has already proven fruitful, and I expect it will continue to become even more beneficial as I become more familiar with the various collections available. Kind regards! 47thPennVols (talk) 23:29, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Portals WikiProject update #014, 27 July 2018
Development of design continues, full speed ahead...
Excerpt slideshows are here!
Can you say "paradigm shift"?
Now, in addition to picture slideshows, we have slideshows that can display excerpts. Portals are not just for topic tasting anymore. Now they can be made useful for surveying Wikipedia's coverage of entire subjects. This gives a deeper meaning to their name. Hmmm. "Portals"... Doorways to knowledge.
Portal:Lithuania was redesigned using excerpt slideshows. Check it out.
For those of you who cannot wait to test out these new toys...
We have not one, but three excerpt slideshow components to pick from:
{{Transclude excerpts as random slideshow}}
- For this one, you specify the page names where the excerpts are to be extracted from.
{{Transclude list item excerpts as random slideshow}}
- This one accepts source pages from where the page names are gathered from list items. Then an excerpt from one of those pages is displayed. The selection of what is included in the slide show can be limited to a specific number from the collection (of the page names gathered), and that selection is renewed from scratch each time the page is purged.
- For example, if you specify Template:World Heritage Sites in Spain as a source page, the slideshow will cycle through those sites. Now you don't have to type them in one-by-one. This greatly reduces portal creation time.
{{Transclude linked excerpts as random slideshow}}
- Same as above, but gathers links instead of just linked list items.
Panoramic banners
{{Portal image banner}} displays a panoramic picture the width of the page, and adjusts its size, so it stays that way even if the user changes page view size. And it accepts multiple file names, so that the picture displayed randomizes between them each time the page is visited/purged.
Give resizing the page a try:
You can now balance section boxes
Before:
at any time by removing the {{